Ukraine - Doomsday

[fandandy 3,313]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So if Ukraine doesn’t join NATO, Putin gets what he wants? I have that right? 

I know you are being facetious but would you be willing to send your kids off to fight and die in defense of the Ukraine?

This is absurdity.

The one thing that if Russia does pull back I would miss happening is the US getting her nose bloodied.  We have no focking reason to be there.  We meddle constantly.

Let Europe handle her own affairs.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,340]

45 minutes ago, fandandy said:

I know you are being facetious but would you be willing to send your kids off to fight and die in defense of the Ukraine?

This is absurdity.

The one thing that if Russia does pull back I would miss happening is the US getting her nose bloodied.  We have no focking reason to be there.  We meddle constantly.

Let Europe handle her own affairs.

No, I would not. But I would hope that Rusty’s kids were drafted and made to fight for the people of Ukraine. 

[Cdub100 3,895]

9 hours ago, fandandy said:

He spoke out more than anyone in the Covid thread but yet he was one of the first to get the vaccine.  He's a regular badass.

That's true I did get it and I gave my reasons. 

[Cdub100 3,895]

9 hours ago, cyclone24 said:

Lol bro youre on a message board. You have no intel…stop acting like you had some inside info nobody else had. 
 

You’re like that guy that predicts upsets in sports all over the place and then finally hits one and says see I told you idiots this is going to happen.

The intel I have is Biden and the Democrats are completely full of sh1t and blame Russia for everything. I also know if the media says something is true it's probably false. 

That's all I need to know. I'm not sure why people like you haven't figured it out yet.

[cyclone24 1,913]

55 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

The intel I have is Biden and the Democrats are completely full of sh1t and blame Russia for everything. I also know if the media says something is true it's probably false. 

That's all I need to know. I'm not sure why people like you haven't figured it out yet.

Your premise is that we are listening to Biden or the media. But if NATO says it, you have embassies closing, you have multiple outlets reporting troops on the ground, bridges being built, rocket launchers in place and given what we know that Vladimir wants to retake Russia, the old Russia, it’s not a stretch to look at these things is very very possible. You just saying well I just don’t believe Biden or the media so you all are idiots it’s comical. 

It’s being somewhat contrarian just for the sake of being contrarian and then if it happens you try to come off as smarter than everyone else

[Cdub100 3,895]

28 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

Your premise is that we are listening to Biden or the media. But if NATO says it, you have embassies closing, you have multiple outlets reporting troops on the ground, bridges being built, rocket launchers in place and given what we know that Vladimir wants to retake Russia, the old Russia, it’s not a stretch to look at these things is very very possible. You just saying well I just don’t believe Biden or the media so you all are idiots it’s comical. 

It’s being somewhat contrarian just for the sake of being contrarian and then if it happens you try to come off as smarter than everyone else

Remember 11 agencies? Remember the CDC and WHO? NATO doesn't say anything. People do and people say what they are told. I was part of some meeting in 2015 regarding war in eastern Europe. I could tell it was BS then as I do now.

It's pushed by high-level democrats.

[cyclone24 1,913]

24 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Remember 11 agencies? Remember the CDC and WHO? NATO doesn't say anything. People do and people say what they are told. I was part of some meeting in 2015 regarding war in eastern Europe. I could tell it was BS then as I do now.

It's pushed by high-level democrats.

Which is interesting to hear you say it was BS in 2015 considering Russia literally took over land in Crimea the year before.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

52 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

Which is interesting to hear you say it was BS in 2015 considering Russia literally took over land in Crimea the year before.

there are wars going on all over the globe right now.  the us has been only concerned about NATO countries until Biden took office.  That is what has changed.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

How about this.  When a president's party doesnt control congress, they will shift to foreign policy issues because that is an area where congress cant interfere as much.  Obama lost the House in 2010.  Obama ordered airstrikes on Libya on March 19th, 2011.  If Biden has to govern with a GOP congress, he will also need to launch airstrikes against someone.  

In fact, the only president not to start a new war was Trump. When Trump lost the House in 2018, he responded with PEACE TALKS with North Korea the following year by actually flying to meet Kim Jong Un and announced a pullout from Syria.  

Biden seems hell bent on war already and he hasn't even lost congress yet.

[Baker Boy 1,698]

Biden is winning. He has given the MSM something to distract the public from all of our domestic problems.

[Baker Boy 1,698]

20 hours ago, fandandy said:

According to who?  Do you have a reporter on the ground that you can trust?

 

20 hours ago, fandandy said:

Who are the members of NATO again?

 

 

20 hours ago, fandandy said:

Maybe North Macedonia has some good intel.

Top US diplomat in Ukraine: 'No evidence' Russia pulling back, sensitive docs shredded in Kyiv

https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/russia-ukraine-biden-putin
 

 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

All the lefty predictors promised war in Ukraine today.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,340]

Russia moved the troops to the border last March. 

[Cdub100 3,895]

4 hours ago, cyclone24 said:

Which is interesting to hear you say it was BS in 2015 considering Russia literally took over land in Crimea the year before.

Take your L and be glad it was all fake news that you fell for... again. Try and learn something this time

[cyclone24 1,913]

9 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Take your L and be glad it was all fake news that you fell for... again. Try and learn something this time

No no playboy. I want to hear all about this meeting where it was BS in 2015 that there was war in Europe when just a few months earlier Russia literally took over new land. 
 

Just say what it is. You took a stab at something because you don’t wanna believe the government which is fine. Acting like you have some sort of Intel that it’s not happening, which isn’t resolved by the way, it’s pretty hilarious even for the nonsensical boasting that this board does.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

9 hours ago, cyclone24 said:

Which is interesting to hear you say it was BS in 2015 considering Russia literally took over land in Crimea the year before.

The definition of “eastern europe” is not set in stone.  Many ivory tower types will claim both ukraine and russia are eastern europe.  Russia itself does not consider itself to be in europe.  Many citizens of ukraine do not consider themselves to be in europe.  Mike Pompeo did not consider either to be in europe.  Its all over the place.  
 

so when you talk about war in eastern europe, many will say crimea does not count in that regard.  

[Cdub100 3,895]

7 hours ago, cyclone24 said:

No no playboy. I want to hear all about this meeting where it was BS in 2015 that there was war in Europe when just a few months earlier Russia literally took over new land. 
 

Just say what it is. You took a stab at something because you don’t wanna believe the government which is fine. Acting like you have some sort of Intel that it’s not happening, which isn’t resolved by the way, it’s pretty hilarious even for the nonsensical boasting that this board does.

L

[TimmySmith 2,782]

Oh boy! Today! Is! The! Day!  It's on. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

On 2/15/2022 at 9:49 PM, Pimpadeaux said:

You just can't accept the fact that Biden has some big, brass taters and got that bully arshole Putin to back down. He should get the Novel Peace Prize. 

#bidenthebadass #bidenstrong #buildbackbetter

U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin said Thursday that the U.S. is aware of reports that a kindergarten has been shelled in eastern Ukraine, describing the incident as “certainly troubling”.

 

Ukrainian military officer says soldiers are responding to artillery shelling in Eastern Ukraine

A Ukrainian Joint Forces Officer tells Fox News' Trey Yingst his soldiers are responding to artillery shelling in Eastern Ukraine. The officer said the exchange of fire is ongoing at this hour.

The officer added that one Ukrainian solider was injured, along with three civilians.

The Ukrainian solider is in serious, but stable condition.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,340]

Just now, Utilit99 said:

U.S. Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin said Thursday that the U.S. is aware of reports that a kindergarten has been shelled in eastern Ukraine, describing the incident as “certainly troubling”.

Eh. Happens all the time in that part of Ukraine. Has been for a while. They just hit a noteworthy target this time. It will be funny if Biden gets on his high horse about someone else bombing kids. 

[Utilit99 4,099]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Eh. Happens all the time in that part of Ukraine. Has been for a while. They just hit a noteworthy target this time. It will be funny if Biden gets on his high horse about someone else bombing kids. 

No need to worry, rusty said creepy joe has everything in hand. 

[Baker Boy 1,698]

On 2/15/2022 at 1:51 PM, fandandy said:

So, as the Russian military begins its long march home, what is the next fear porn that our government and media will inundate us with?

 

On 2/15/2022 at 1:57 PM, Baker Boy said:

They haven’t started the move yet.

 

On 2/15/2022 at 2:00 PM, fandandy said:

According to who?  Do you have a reporter on the ground that you can trust?

Russia adds 7,000 troops to Ukraine border, despite claims it would withdraw some forces, U.S. says
 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/ukraine-crisis-russia-troop-pullback-met-skepticism-west-ukraine-defia-rcna16435

[Utilit99 4,099]

2 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

 

 

Russia adds 7,000 troops to Ukraine border, despite claims it would withdraw some forces, U.S. says
 

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/ukraine-crisis-russia-troop-pullback-met-skepticism-west-ukraine-defia-rcna16435

But...but...but rusty said joey has it all under control.

[supermike80 1,893]

This constitutes "reporting" on CNN

https://www.cnn.com/2022/02/15/opinions/putin-russia-ukraine-history-unpredictable-ghitis/index.html

[JustinCharge 2,397]

Biden said something like “within days” since their predictions of an invasion went up. 

[fandandy 3,313]

1 hour ago, Baker Boy said:

Russia adds 7,000 troops to Ukraine border, despite claims it would withdraw some forces, U.S. says

You put your right troops in.  You pull your right troops out.  You put your right troops in, then you shake them all about...  

[fandandy 3,313]

So it would basically be Russia/China VS who exactly?  A buncha nancyasseuropeans?

I hope he kicks the sh!t out of them.  

Shoulda built up your military like Trump told ya.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,340]

The Russians moved the troops to the border last March. They have been shooting at each other just as long, actually longer. 

[Baker Boy 1,698]

1 hour ago, fandandy said:

So it would basically be Russia/China VS who exactly?  A buncha nancyasseuropeans?

I hope he kicks the sh!t out of them.  

Shoulda built up your military like Trump told ya.

Our military has been compromised by woke nonsense, we couldn’t defeat the Duchy of Grand Fenwick.

 

[lod001 1,344]

Fighting is going on. Fox is on it, MSNBC is on it, CNN is talking about a school board of democrats that got bullied.

[fandandy 3,313]

On 2/15/2022 at 2:19 PM, fandandy said:

The West is cooked.  Putin owns Europe.  Have fun freezing to death you retards.

https://www.rt.com/business/549958-europe-gas-storages-empty/

Europeans are so arrogant, weak, and dumb and then they come crying to daddy America to come save their stoopid asses when the sh!t gets real.

Piss off.

Better stock up blankets.

[naomi 356]

All of this is a key step in ending U.S. hegemony.  While there are other threats, it's the biggest one to thwarting the emerging global, fascist oligarchy. We need to be divided, weakened, and fall.

The current economic system is on life support. Elites can actually suffer too if the transition isn't played right.

Looking at the surface level of governments and leaders is (especially) head-in-sand in our modern era. Information flows fast enough to see the smoke and mirrors. Biden, Trump, Trudeau, Macron, Johnson. We know these people are tools.

People who have relatively immense wealth and resources are the craftsmen. They let us know they want U.S. hegemony ended by 2030.

So here we are.

[cyclone24 1,913]

4 hours ago, lod001 said:

Fighting is going on. Fox is on it, MSNBC is on it, CNN is talking about a school board of democrats that got bullied.

Sorry I was told we were useful idiots for believing that these were anything other than exercises.

(insert kermit sipping tea gif)

[lod001 1,344]

28 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

Sorry I was told we were useful idiots for believing that these were anything other than exercises.

(insert kermit sipping tea gif)

This round goes to cyclone24.  Not sure you are useful though.

[cyclone24 1,913]

33 minutes ago, lod001 said:

This round goes to cyclone24.  Not sure you are useful though.

Fair. Hah.

[Cdub100 3,895]

Wag the dog

[cyclone24 1,913]

4 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Wag the dog

L

[fandandy 3,313]

2 hours ago, naomi said:

People who have relatively immense wealth and resources are the craftsmen. They let us know they want U.S. hegemony ended by 2030.

 

Why is this a bad thing?

And could you name some recent examples of US hegemony that have had a positive global impact?

I am vehemently opposed to US hegemony.

This country was not founded on the ideal of hegemony.  I think that is more what they were attempting to escape from.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,340]

Is this still on tap? 

[fandandy 3,313]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Is this still on tap? 

Hopefully, Putin and Xi are on the same page and this will happen in tandem with China's invasion of Taiwan.

Then what?  Our brain trust is Biden and Kamala for fock sake.  We just need to STFU and let the faraway lands handle the affairs of the faraway lands.