Ukraine - Doomsday

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

11 hours ago, vomit said:

I have no idea who Tucker Carlson is but he sounds like the retards here.

 

No one believes this. 

[MDC 7,506]

2 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said:

How do you go about hurting Russia without it having some sort of ramifications on the citizens.  Having Russian citizens turn on Putin should be part of the plan.  I don't recall people worrying about that question when Trump put tariffs on China.  The biggest difference with Trump's trade tariff was that it also hurt US citizens.  Farmers got hammered by those tariffs and many family farms were forced to shut down.  I recall a lot of people saying that it would be worth it in the long run and that farmers would basically have to take one for the team.  Maybe Russian citizens are just going to have to take one for the team while we get rid of Putin.

Tucker asks vague questions in bad faith to steer his audience toward a conclusion. Both sides are really struggling to find their partisan angle on the Ukraine story. The right has oddly decided to back Putin and blame America. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

1 minute ago, MDC said:

Tucker asks vague questions in bad faith to steer his audience toward a conclusion. Both sides are really struggling to find their partisan angle on the Ukraine story. The right has oddly decided to back Putin and blame America. 

All because their beloved ex-president praised Putin and called him a genius. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/video-appears-to-show-a-captured-russian-soldier-being-fed-by-ukrainians-and-allowed-a-video-call-with-his-mother/ar-AAUxAfp

Crying captured Russian soldier. 

That's a good-looking sammich the Ukers fed him.

[cyclone24 1,914]

1 minute ago, Pimpadeaux said:

All because their beloved ex-president praised Putin and called him a genius. 

I’d say compared to the bag of pudding we have in the White House and his vice president that says really insightful things like Ukraine is small… Russia is big and they are invading Ukraine which is bad. (Actually said this week)…. I’d say comparatively everyone is a genius.
 

and again you guys can cry about Trump all you want but there’s a reason Russia is doing this now. It’s a combination of personal weakness and policy weakness that are getting taken advantage of. So go on and whine about Trump and call him a Cheetoh or whatever it is you people are still doing after he’s out of office but your boy is getting laps ran around him and it’s not even close.

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3 minutes ago, MDC said:

Tucker asks vague questions in bad faith to steer his audience toward a conclusion. Both sides are really struggling to find their partisan angle on the Ukraine story. The right has oddly decided to back Putin and blame America. 

I focking hate when people do this, and it's usually these alr right idiots that do this sh!t.

Smug retard: Ask yourself, why did Putin do this?  You think there is something else going on that you are blind to because you follow the MSM?

Regular person: what?

Smug retard:  I shouldn't have to tell you.  Use your eyes.

Regular person:  So you're saying Putin is justified?

Smug retard:  I'm not saying anything, I'm just asking questions.  I'm a critical thinker.

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2 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/video-appears-to-show-a-captured-russian-soldier-being-fed-by-ukrainians-and-allowed-a-video-call-with-his-mother/ar-AAUxAfp

Crying captured Russian soldier. 

That's a good-looking sammich the Ukers fed him.

I take these with a grain of salt.  This could be Ukranian propaganda trying to break the will of the Russians, very smart by the way, but I've read that at least some of these are fake, who knows.

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5 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

All because their beloved ex-president praised Putin and called him a genius. 

Enough with this, we all know Trump was just being a snarky douche and taking digs at Biden.  He doesn't actually love Putin for focks sake.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

6 minutes ago, vomit said:

I focking hate when people do this, and it's usually these alr right idiots that do this sh!t.

Smug retard: Ask yourself, why did Putin do this?  You think there is something else going on that you are blind to because you follow the MSM?

Regular person: what?

Smug retard:  I shouldn't have to tell you.  Use your eyes.

Regular person:  So you're saying Putin is justified?

Smug retard:  I'm not saying anything, I'm just asking questions.  I'm a critical thinker.

You make up sad things in your head. Your imaginary conversations are even worse than your real ones. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

7 minutes ago, vomit said:

I focking hate when people do this, and it's usually these alr right idiots that do this sh!t.

Smug retard: Ask yourself, why did Putin do this?  You think there is something else going on that you are blind to because you follow the MSM?

Regular person: what?

Smug retard:  I shouldn't have to tell you.  Use your eyes.

Regular person:  So you're saying Putin is justified?

Smug retard:  I'm not saying anything, I'm just asking questions.  I'm a critical thinker.

Same regular person: Defund the police. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

TUCKER! 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

1 minute ago, cyclone24 said:

I’d say compared to the bag of pudding we have in the White House and his vice president that says really insightful things like Ukraine is small… Russia is big and they are invading Ukraine which is bad. (Actually said this week)…. I’d say comparatively everyone is a genius.
 

and again you guys can cry about Trump all you want but there’s a reason Russia is doing this now. It’s a combination of personal weakness and policy weakness that are getting taken advantage of. So go on and whine about Trump and call him a Cheetoh or whatever it is you people are still doing after he’s out of office but your boy is getting laps ran around him and it’s not even close.

The point here was the far right supporting Russia, not why Russia did what it did, and the reason the far right is supporting this is because the ex-president was chummy with Putin and praised the early stages of what he's doing. 

Only a fringe lunatic retard would support Russia's actions here. Not even the Russians and Russian soldiers are supporting it, as indicated by mass protests and soldiers sabotaging their own equipment and surrendering. 

Most of the rest of the world is rallying around and supporting the Ukrainians, but we have goons in this forum who think we should turn a blind eye to it because of the summer 2020 riots, immigration issues and an Iraq invasion that happened almost two decades ago.

That's some off-the-chain stupidity and ignorance right there.

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

7 minutes ago, vomit said:

I take these with a grain of salt.  This could be Ukranian propaganda trying to break the will of the Russians, very smart by the way, but I've read that at least some of these are fake, who knows.

Yeah, but that sammich looks mighty good.

[DonS 3,292]

Psaki made an interesting observation regarding a "pattern" with invasions:

 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

Just now, Pimpadeaux said:

The point here was the far right supporting Russia, not why Russia did what it did, and the reason the far right is supporting this is because the ex-president was chummy with Putin and praised the early stages of what he's doing. 

Only a fringe lunatic retard would support Russia's actions here. Not even the Russians and Russian soldiers are supporting it, as indicated by mass protests and soldiers sabotaging their own equipment and surrendering. 

Most of the rest of the world is rallying around and supporting the Ukrainians, but we have goons in this forum who think we should turn a blind eye to it because of the summer 2020 riots, immigration issues and an Iraq invasion that happened almost two decades ago.

That's some off-the-chain stupidity and ignorance right there.

That’s made up. The “far” right. Like who, Q-Anon? Shutup.  

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

6 minutes ago, vomit said:

Enough with this, we all know Trump was just being a snarky douche and taking digs at Biden.  He doesn't actually love Putin for focks sake.

How does praising Putin and calling him a genius constitute a dig on Biden?

Also, Clownzo has reversed himself.

https://news.yahoo.com/trump-calls-russian-invasion-holocaust-140103339.html

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Former President Clownzo called the Russian invasion into Ukraine "a holocaust" and urged Russia to stop fighting, a large shift in tone since last week when the former president praised Russian President Vladimir Putin.

 

[MDC 7,506]

Just now, vomit said:

I focking hate when people do this, and it's usually these alr right idiots that do this sh!t.

Smug retard: Ask yourself, why did Putin do this?  You think there is something else going on that you are blind to because you follow the MSM?

Regular person: what?

Smug retard:  I shouldn't have to tell you.  Use your eyes.

Regular person:  So you're saying Putin is justified?

Smug retard:  I'm not saying anything, I'm just asking questions.  I'm a critical thinker.

Saw Hannity last night complaining that we buy oil from Russia and I guess making the case that sanctions are hypocritical. I don’t remember the calls to stop doing business with Russia or China until last week.

How dumb do you need to be to fall for these disingenuous takes?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

Rusty is upset. Here he is again, touting another failed neo con/ globalist Fock up.  He does what the media tells him to do. 

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

What do all of you think the main reason is for Putin to be invading Ukraine?  I'm not sure I've actually heard any legitimate theories.

[iam90sbaby 2,621]

I like Putin.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

4 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

What do all of you think the main reason is for Putin to be invading Ukraine?  I'm not sure I've actually heard any legitimate theories.

There are many. Some are speculation, but could be true. But he did warn everyone.  And seeing as he’s a brutal SOB and most likely a little nuts, perhaps we should have listened to that guy, who also has nuclear arms, oil, a friend in China and an army he’s been building up for decades when he says he’s going to take up arms if you don’t back off. And also doesn’t GAF about his own people. 

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

There are many. Most are speculation, but could be true. But he did warn everyone.  And seeing as he’s a brutal SOB and most likely a little nuts, perhaps we should have listened to that guy, who also has nuclear arms, oil, a friend in China and an army he’s been building up for decades. 

Why do you think he's doing it?

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2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

What do all of you think the main reason is for Putin to be invading Ukraine?  I'm not sure I've actually heard any legitimate theories.

The only legitimate theory is that he wants to get back to the Soviet Union.  Putin is an old school dude, craves power, money, and he's trying to get the band back together again.

Retarded theories I've heard include he's trying to remove Nazi's and he hates the western LGBTQ+ people.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

What do all of you think the main reason is for Putin to be invading Ukraine?  I'm not sure I've actually heard any legitimate theories.

While the side-takers offer up "putin bad", the rest of us have offered up basic theories to a complex question. What would you consider to be 
"legitimate"?   

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

Just now, TimmySmith said:

While the side-takers offer up "putin bad", the rest of us have offered up basic theories to a complex question. What would you consider to be 
"legitimate"?   

I don't think the Nazi take is all that legitimate.

Why do you think he's doing it?

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1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

There are many. Some are speculation, but could be true. But he did warn everyone.  And seeing as he’s a brutal SOB and most likely a little nuts, perhaps we should have listened to that guy, who also has nuclear arms, oil, a friend in China and an army he’s been building up for decades. And also doesn’t GAF about his own people. 

Why the fock do you keep saying "He warned everyone"?  If I warn you that I'm gonna have sex with your wife, and then I actually do, are you gonna just let me finish and be like "Well he did warn me so, oh well"

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

That’s made up. The “far” right. Like who, Q-Anon? Shutup.  

You've been a Putin apologist since the invasion began. You condemn our invasion of Iraq almost 20 years ago but turn a blind eye to Russia making an unprovoked attack on a weaker, democratic neighbor as part of an overarching plan to get the band back together. 

Instead, you're all muh Iraq, muh BLM, muh Antifa, muh borders, muh BDS. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Why do you think he's doing it?

He’s a bad guy to start with, that’s a fact. I think once he drew his line in the sand, and it was crossed , in his mind, that he felt justified and he had to back up what he said. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

2 minutes ago, vomit said:

Why the fock do you keep saying "He warned everyone"?  If I warn you that I'm gonna have sex with your wife, and then I actually do, are you gonna just let me finish and be like "Well he did warn me so, oh well"

Are you saying he didn’t warn anyone? If you are you’re out of your depth in this conversation. But beyond that, I’d say invading Crimea and posting his troops on the border last year may have been a time to ask him what’s up? Why are you doing this?  But they knew why. 

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2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

He’s a bad guy to start with, that’s a fact. I think once he drew his line in the sand, and it was crossed , in his mind, that he felt justified and he had to back up what he said. 

What was his line in the sand?

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

He’s a bad guy to start with, that’s a fact. I think once he drew his line in the sand, and it was crossed , in his mind, that he felt justified and he had to back up what he said. 

I think he wants to get back to the USSR.  I think he wants to expand further West for strategic purposes.

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Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Are you saying he didn’t warn anyone? If you are you’re out of your depth in this conversation. But beyond that, I’d say invading Crimea and posting his troops on the border last year may have been a time to ask him what’s up? Why you doing this. But they knew why. 

I agree with you that he did warn everyone and Biden did nothing to stop him.  I guess you just want to blame Biden, but we're past that now.

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

7 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

What do all of you think the main reason is for Putin to be invading Ukraine?  I'm not sure I've actually heard any legitimate theories.

It's eerily similar to Hitler in the 1930s.

Germany was embarrassed for the World War I concessions it made. Hitler whipped up nationalism and convinced the Germans that they were on the brink of destruction and had to strike first. He demonized the Jews. The real goal was to return Germany to its former glory.

What Putin is doing is right out of the autocratic playbook, only many seem to be questioning his mental stability. This guy is old-school Soviet Union. He's embarrassed over all the breaking off of all the Soviet republics, and now he's trying to bring them back one by one. Chechnya. Georgia. Ukraine. 

And he prolly feels he needed to do it before Ukraine tried to join NATO.

I think Putin honestly believes Ukraine belongs to Russia, but he underestimated the Ukrainian determination, the world's response and the economic effects in his own country, where Russian civilians are getting arrested by the thousands during protests.

[Baker Boy 1,704]

15 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

What do all of you think the main reason is for Putin to be invading Ukraine?  I'm not sure I've actually heard any legitimate theories.

The reasons go back for decades, you should read up on our involvement in Ukrainian and Russian relations. This buildup did not start a few months ago it started a year ago when there was a threat of the Ukraine joining NATO which the west promised would never happen.

From 6/14/21

Ukraine to become NATO member state with help of Membership Action Plan – Summit communique

https://www.unian.info/politics/ukraine-to-become-nato-member-state-with-help-of-membership-action-plan-summit-communique-11453512.html#:~:text=Ukraine will become a NATO member with the,of state and government of 30 NATO Allies.

 

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

What did Trump do to prevent Putin from attacking and what could Biden have done to prevent it?

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

No one believes this. 

It's true, though. I hear you clowns parroting him and other alt-right infotainers here all the time. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

What did Trump do to prevent Putin from attacking and what could Biden have done to prevent it?

Trump recently said he knew Putin "very, very well." Putin and Russia had it good under Trump.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/03/02/putin-invade-ukraine-trump-00012897

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But beyond personality, there’s a far more likely and logical explanation if you look at policy alignment between Russia and America during the two administrations: With Trump in office, Putin was already getting what he wanted. The election changed all that.

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

13 minutes ago, vomit said:

What was his line in the sand?

Ukraine aligning with the west, this coming on the heels of eastern expansion for decades by NATO after giving assurances they wouldn’t. None of that justifies bombing and invading Ukraine. He should have cut off Europe’s oil and natural gas and seen if that would get them to back off. He played  the wrong hand and it won’t work out for him in the long run. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

4 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Trump recently said he knew Putin "very, very well." Putin and Russia had it good under Trump.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2022/03/02/putin-invade-ukraine-trump-00012897

 

Oh really? What did Biden take away from him that he was getting from Trump? Amd what did he get from Trump? 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

14 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

It's true, though. I hear you clowns parroting him and other alt-right infotainers here all the time. 

Parroting what? Russia has been threatening conflict for a while, and has actually made moves. The discussion is why? It’s more than him being a brutal dictator.  The crazy guy felt threatened. You tell us why. I don’t think his main goal is to reconstitute the Soviet Union.He knows that’s never happening.  I don’t see how that makes me rootin for Putin.