Ukraine - Doomsday

[Cdub100 3,935]

26 minutes ago, nobody said:

You and cdub are proud racists. 

Ooohhh no the R words. Please anything but that.

[TimmySmith 2,782]

Interesting how hatred for a country that killed millions over the last 2 years never occurred.  But hatred for a country that intruded on another halfway around the world took a week.

[MDC 7,506]

2 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

Interesting how hatred for a country that killed millions over the last 2 years never occurred.  But hatred for a country that intruded on another halfway around the world took a week.

This is a strong contender for the single dumbest take in this thread.

[Utilit99 4,099]

Just now, MDC said:

This is a strong contender for the single dumbest take in this thread.

You have 1-10 locked up if you count the whole board. 

[Cdub100 3,935]

It's scary there's a group of (((people))) who can press a switch and turn off a whole country's ability to transact electronically. If anything this war has shown the powers that be if you don't toe the line and bend the knee to western powers they can completely destroy your economy. You better believe Russia, China, Iran, India, Brazil, etc... are going to make their own international financial community.

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

24 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

You want to defend Putin and Russia?

Fook off. 

Wow, dumb. I said he’s spinning bullshit you stupid Fock. That’s defending him? 

[vomit 502]

45 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Putin disagrees with you. And he’s the one with the army and the nukes. 

Take the L son.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

38 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

So now you're saying that because America wrongly invaded Iraq almost 20 years ago and a few liquor stores got looted in summer 2020, we should turn a blind eye to Russian invading a free country and turning it into rubble.

This "my country burning" stuff is baloney. Some relatively tiny portions of big cities saw some rioting, looting, arson and violence as opportunistic thugs who probably have never voted in their lives took advantage of a volatile situation, just like the Watts riots and the Rodney King riot. 

But alas, you're stuck in the past.

I saw cop cars being fire bombed and a federal courthouse under siege night after night and no one put a stop to it. I saw cops in Chicago pelted with bricks and frozen water bottles. Minneapolis looks  like a third world country still. A church directly across the street from the White House was torched. Maybe you missed all that. And there’s more, a lot more. I didn’t even bring up the innocent people killed. That’s a little more than a liquor store. Now stfu with your downplaying about what went on in this country in 2020 because it was your team doing it and it was all based on bullshit. Just like Putin is doing with the nazi stuff. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

2 minutes ago, vomit said:

Take the L son.

You just don’t get how the real world works. You probably watch a lot of superhero movies. 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

23 minutes ago, MDC said:

This is a strong contender for the single dumbest take in this thread.

And I felt so sure you would like it.

[wiffleball 4,790]

Interesting. Germans are flying aircap over Poland and Romania. And engaging naval assets. 

That's pretty historic. Remember when we said we wanted the Europeans to step up?

 

And, Poland wanted a permanent US military base.  Damn sure got one now.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

Just now, wiffleball said:

Interesting. Germans are flying aircap over Poland and Romania. And engaging naval assets. 

That's pretty historic. Remember when we said we wanted the Europeans to step up?

 

And, Poland wanted a permanent US military base.  Damn sure got one now.

Hmmm, Germany poking Russia. Should work out pretty good. 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

The Chinese kill millions and host the Olympics.  Russians cross a line and they are banning Cats from competitions.

Anything Cuck? 

[Utilit99 4,099]

45 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

So now you're saying that because America wrongly invaded Iraq almost 20 years ago and a few liquor stores got looted in summer 2020, we should turn a blind eye to Russian invading a free country and turning it into rubble.

This "my country burning" stuff is baloney. Some relatively tiny portions of big cities saw some rioting, looting, arson and violence as opportunistic thugs who probably have never voted in their lives took advantage of a volatile situation, just like the Watts riots and the Rodney King riot. 

But alas, you're stuck in the past.

George Floyd Riots Caused Record-Setting $2 Billion in Damage, New Report Says. Here’s Why the True Cost Is Even Higher

Even beyond face-value insurance costs, riots leave a lasting shadow on a city that haunts its economy for decades.

 

When George Floyd died while in police custody in late May, most agreed his premature death was a tragedy. Yet the discussion on criminal justice reform that emerged in the weeks after Floyd’s passing was quickly overshadowed by the rioting, looting, and violence that broke out in major cities such as Minneapolis, Seattle, and New York.

Dozens of people were killed or injured in the violent unrest, and thousands of businesses and properties, many minority-owned, were looted, torched, or otherwise vandalized. Only now are we beginning to realize the full cost of the destruction. New reporting from Axios reveals that the total insured property losses incurred during the George Floyd riots will come in at $1 billion to $2 billion.

The US has experienced rioting over racial tensions before, but this report shows that the damage from the latest unrest will far exceed any historical precedent.

“The arson, vandalism and looting... will result in at least $1 billion to $2 billion of paid insurance claims,” Axios reports. “[This will] eclips[e] the record set in Los Angeles in 1992 after the acquittal of the police officers who brutalized Rodney King.”

However, there are many reasons that this figure vastly underestimates the true damage wrought by the looting and violence that has broken out in recent months.

For one, the Axios report only measures insured losses. The obvious problem here is that not all the damages were insured.

As I have previously explained, insurance is no panacea for the societal ills imposed by rioting. Indeed, 75 percent of US businesses are under-insured and about 40 percent of small businesses have no insurance at all. Their untold millions in losses don’t show up in the $2 billion figure.

So, too, insurance doesn’t account for the personal pain and suffering caused by rioting. For example, what about the more than 15 people who died during the unrest? Their lives and their families’ pain don’t get counted in any insurance company’s budgetary analysis. Nor does the pain of those such as an elderly businessman punched in the face while his store was ransacked in Kenosha, Wisconsin manifest itself in total reports on insurance compensation.

Moreover, looking at mere insurance totals fails to factor in the lost sales revenue and unpaid labor that businesses victimized by rioters face.

And that’s all without even considering the long-term economic impact rioting has on a community. We must also remember that riots leave a lasting shadow on a city that haunts its economy for decades. The afflicted areas face higher insurance rates, lower property values, higher prices, reduced tax revenue, and decreased economic opportunity.

As I’ve previously summarized, ample research confirms this:

One study of the 1992 Los Angeles riots concluded that not only did the destruction cause $1 billion in initial property damage, over time it led to an economic decline of $3.8 billion in sales activity and at least $125 million in tax revenue.

Moreover, a 2005 study examining similar riots in the 1960s found ‘negative, persistent, and economically significant effects of riots on the value of black-owned housing’ to the degree of ‘a 10 percent decline in the total value of black-owned property in cities.’

And seeing as the new reporting shows that the George Floyd riots were more destructive than the riots in either of the above periods, we can reasonably expect that the long-term economic consequences will be more severe as well.

This important reality shouldn’t be overlooked.

In politics, voters and policymakers have a consistent and rather unfortunate tendency to focus on the seen costs of a policy or event, rather than the many unseen ones. This is what famed economist Frédéric Bastiat described in his essay “That Which Is Seen and that Which Is Not Seen.” He wrote that when “a man absorbed in the effect which is seen has not yet learned to discern those which are not seen, he gives way to fatal habits, not only by inclination, but by calculation.”

Americans shouldn’t fall prey to such fallacious thinking when they consider the total costs that wanton rioting, looting, and violence have imposed on our cities in recent months. The true damage incurred undoubtedly extends far beyond the (already steep) insurance sticker price that readers see in headlines.

 

[Djgb13 2,339]

 

[KSB2424 3,148]

I was thinking about this today, then watching Tucker Carlson right now he drove it home.  No wonder I like that guy, he is asking the right questions.  Much like Joe Rogan does.  Sometimes they are wrong but at least they are asking........

He said, multiple times, that Putin is the bad guy....what he is doing in Ukraine is wrong in ALL ways.  Full Stop.

HOWEVER, he asks:

1.  Why are we punishing the normal Russian citizen?  Why are we pouring out already bought Vodka and demonizing normal Russian citizens but still buying Oil from their government.  It's a question that is so obvious yet seems to be controversial?  

2.  How can we cut off Russian assets over this but China gets a free pass on EVERYTHING?  I mean we can barely mention that Covid came from a lab on social media without YOU being censored.  It's nuts.

These are logical and honest questions.......these are not conspiracy theories.

 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

38 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

I was thinking about this today, then watching Tucker Carlson right now he drove it home.  No wonder I like that guy, he is asking the right questions.  Much like Joe Rogan does.  Sometimes they are wrong but at least they are asking........

He said, multiple times, that Putin is the bad guy....what he is doing in Ukraine is wrong in ALL ways.  Full Stop.

HOWEVER, he asks:

1.  Why are we punishing the normal Russian citizen?  Why are we pouring out already bought Vodka and demonizing normal Russian citizens but still buying Oil from their government.  It's a question that is so obvious yet seems to be controversial?  

2.  How can we cut off Russian assets over this but China gets a free pass on EVERYTHING?  I mean we can barely mention that Covid came from a lab on social media without YOU being censored.  It's nuts.

These are logical and honest questions.......these are not conspiracy theories.

 

Cucks think your post is one of the dumbest in the thread. 

They don't know why China must be protected and the average Russian citizen must be vilified but the press told them that it must be so, so it must be so. 

[wiffleball 4,790]

Actually, Tucker is doing some major backtracking, the feds aren't pouring out vodka, and us/eu is strongly looking at cutting off Russian supplies, but trying not to freeze innocents in the process. 

[wiffleball 4,790]

52 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

I was thinking about this today, then watching Tucker Carlson right now he drove it home.  No wonder I like that guy, he is asking the right questions.  Much like Joe Rogan does.  Sometimes they are wrong but at least they are asking........

He said, multiple times, that Putin is the bad guy....what he is doing in Ukraine is wrong in ALL ways.  Full Stop.

HOWEVER, he asks:

1.  Why are we punishing the normal Russian citizen?  Why are we pouring out already bought Vodka and demonizing normal Russian citizens but still buying Oil from their government.  It's a question that is so obvious yet seems to be controversial?  

2.  How can we cut off Russian assets over this but China gets a free pass on EVERYTHING?  I mean we can barely mention that Covid came from a lab on social media without YOU being censored.  It's nuts.

These are logical and honest questions.......these are not conspiracy theories.

 

, if you missed Carlson‘s most recent shows, a quick recap of commentary he’s offered on the situation:

It’s “not un-American” to support Putin;

Democrats will find you guilty of treason if you don’t hate Putin;

The whole thing is simply a “border dispute”;

“Ukraine is not a democracy”;

Ukraine is a “puppet” of the West; and

Our personal favorite, that unless Vladimir Putin has personally had you or one of your family members murdered, you really don’t have any right to criticize the guy:

[vomit 502]

I have no idea who Tucker Carlson is but he sounds like the retards here.

 

[MDC 7,506]

55 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

I was thinking about this today, then watching Tucker Carlson right now he drove it home.  No wonder I like that guy, he is asking the right questions.  Much like Joe Rogan does.  Sometimes they are wrong but at least they are asking........

He said, multiple times, that Putin is the bad guy....what he is doing in Ukraine is wrong in ALL ways.  Full Stop.

HOWEVER, he asks:

1.  Why are we punishing the normal Russian citizen?  Why are we pouring out already bought Vodka and demonizing normal Russian citizens but still buying Oil from their government.  It's a question that is so obvious yet seems to be controversial?  

2.  How can we cut off Russian assets over this but China gets a free pass on EVERYTHING?  I mean we can barely mention that Covid came from a lab on social media without YOU being censored.  It's nuts.

These are logical and honest questions.......these are not conspiracy theories.

 

We treat countries differently if they’re our business partners or have influence on the world stage. Always have.

[wiffleball 4,790]

At least putin didn't eat your dog, so he's OK. 

 

https://deadline.com/2022/02/jimmy-kimmel-tucker-carlson-putins-russian-tv-1234959598/

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

Tucker destroyed some former Obama egghead who preaches at Stamford now who says all the Russian people are to blame for this. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

pimp is a BOT.  he is here to launch personal attacks and run guilt trips.  when he tries to discuss serious issues like the 2020 riots, ignore him.  you cannot convince a bot of anything.

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I saw cop cars being fire bombed and a federal courthouse under siege night after night and no one put a stop to it. I saw cops in Chicago pelted with bricks and frozen water bottles. Minneapolis looks  like a third world country still. A church directly across the street from the White House was torched. Maybe you missed all that. And there’s more, a lot more. I didn’t even bring up the innocent people killed. That’s a little more than a liquor store. Now stfu with your downplaying about what went on in this country in 2020 because it was your team doing it and it was all based on bullshit. Just like Putin is doing with the nazi stuff. 

The Ukraine president is Jewish, and Russia is throwing more than bricks and frozen water bottles at Ukraine, including civilians. But go ahead and do your Putin rootin' just because a tiny percentage of Ukraine has neo-Nazis, just like America has the KKK, Proud Boys and other far-right, militia-type groups. Your usual not getting past things, playing two wrongs make a right and throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Pitiful and despicable. You're no American.

 

[Gepetto 1,374]

Russia influences Cuba, Nicaragua, and Venezuela and has its sites on Colombia next.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/putin-is-already-in-cuba-and-venezuela-south-america-influence-western-hemisphere-ukraine-11643567547

https://dialogo-americas.com/articles/russia-insists-on-dismantling-democracy-worldwide/#.YiA9v-jMLEY

[Drizzay 723]

Is Putin dead yet?  Let's skip this whole 'war' thing.

It's like eating White Castle.  Just throw the sliders into the toilet and cut out the middle-man.

[KSB2424 3,148]

Wow

[KSB2424 3,148]

3 hours ago, vomit said:

I have no idea who Tucker Carlson is but he sounds like the retards here.

 

Lazy

[KSB2424 3,148]

3 hours ago, MDC said:

We treat countries differently if they’re our business partners or have influence on the world stage. Always have.

Wow

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

8 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

The Ukraine president is Jewish, and Russia is throwing more than bricks and frozen water bottles at Ukraine, including civilians. But go ahead and do your Putin rootin' just because a tiny percentage of Ukraine has neo-Nazis, just like America has the KKK, Proud Boys and other far-right, militia-type groups. Your usual not getting past things, playing two wrongs make a right and throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Pitiful and despicable. You're no American.

 

Who’s rooting for Putin? You’re like one of those hysterical college girls sky screaming in the street. Just yelling nonsense. 

[MDC 7,506]

5 hours ago, KSB2424 said:

Wow

Sanctions have always hurt ordinary citizens along with the countries they’re levied against. That’s not new. Neither is US hypocrisy in picking foreign conflicts.

Tucker just figuring this out?

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

12 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Wow, dumb. I said he’s spinning bullshit you stupid Fock. That’s defending him? 

One minor thing you said versus the many many things defending. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

3 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

One minor thing you said versus the many many things defending. 

List them. You won’t, cuz you can’t. Start with the one where I how’s someone puts a bullet in his head. This the problem with you beta cucks. Never been smacked in the mouth. 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Who’s rooting for Putin? You’re like one of those hysterical college girls sky screaming in the street. Just yelling nonsense. 

They are full on bonkers. If you don't condemn Putin every post you are implicitly defending him. If you don't have sunflowers in your avatar, and don't pan The Big Lebowski, you are defending him. If you mention China as still the biggest world threat, you are defending him.  This is well beyond their mid covid psychosis, nearing Trump. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

Just now, TimmySmith said:

They are full on bonkers. If you don't condemn Putin every post you are implicitly defending him. If you don't have sunflowers in your avatar, and don't pan The Big Lebowski, you are defending him. If you mention China as still the biggest world threat, you are defending him.  This is well beyond their mid covid psychosis, nearing Trump. 

It’s the new racism.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,517]

On 2/26/2022 at 3:00 PM, Hardcore troubadour said:

If you criticized the US/ Nixon and their involvement in Vietnam, you were a puppet for Ho Chi Minh

If you criticized the US/ Bush and their handling of the Iraq war, you were a puppet for Saddam Hussein. 
If you criticized the US/ Obama for their destruction of Libya, you were a puppet for Momar Khaddafi 

Now if you criticize Biden for his handling of Ukraine/ Russia, you’re a puppet for Putin. 
Ain’t the first amendment great? 

Once again for the stupids. 

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

12 hours ago, KSB2424 said:

I was thinking about this today, then watching Tucker Carlson right now he drove it home.  No wonder I like that guy, he is asking the right questions.  Much like Joe Rogan does.  Sometimes they are wrong but at least they are asking........

He said, multiple times, that Putin is the bad guy....what he is doing in Ukraine is wrong in ALL ways.  Full Stop.

HOWEVER, he asks:

1.  Why are we punishing the normal Russian citizen?  Why are we pouring out already bought Vodka and demonizing normal Russian citizens but still buying Oil from their government.  It's a question that is so obvious yet seems to be controversial?  

2.  How can we cut off Russian assets over this but China gets a free pass on EVERYTHING?  I mean we can barely mention that Covid came from a lab on social media without YOU being censored.  It's nuts.

These are logical and honest questions.......these are not conspiracy theories.

 

How do you go about hurting Russia without it having some sort of ramifications on the citizens.  Having Russian citizens turn on Putin should be part of the plan.  I don't recall people worrying about that question when Trump put tariffs on China.  The biggest difference with Trump's trade tariff was that it also hurt US citizens.  Farmers got hammered by those tariffs and many family farms were forced to shut down.  I recall a lot of people saying that it would be worth it in the long run and that farmers would basically have to take one for the team.  Maybe Russian citizens are just going to have to take one for the team while we get rid of Putin.

[edjr 6,608]

11 hours ago, vomit said:

I have no idea who Tucker Carlson is but he sounds like the retards here.

 

   both sides are zombies and would follow their favorite stations off of a cliff.

[KSB2424 3,148]

Wow