Trans Kids

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

2 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Nope. This is just pure homophobia.

Nick Fuentes and Kanye are not secret Nazis. They’re quite open about it. You can easily find what they’ve said about liking Hitler, denying the Holocaust, wishing death to Jews, etc.

Look Raiders isn't MAGA- he is the most centrist poster here.....he only defends Trump from the evil people on a lightly trafficked fantasy football message board.....

And I guess he defends Elon Musk.....

And I guess he defends Nick Fuentes.....

And I guess he defends Kanye....

And he paid his mortgage two weeks ago....just in case that comes up

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,120]

2 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

Here is an article on the benefits of gender affirming care: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-the-science-on-gender-affirming-care-for-transgender-kids-really-shows/

Here are papers on the study of the literature as it relates to puberty blockers:

https://acamh.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/camh.12437

https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/jpem-2018-0048/html

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanchi/article/PIIS2352-4642(21)00235-2/fulltext

https://www.bmj.com/content/366/bmj.l5647

https://acamh.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/camh.12533

 

That is at least 5 different papers (covering multiple studies that have been done) on the effectiveness of puberty blockers from a practical standpoint, a legitimacy standpoint, an effectiveness standpoint. So you are absolutely wrong in thinking that they don't test this stuff and have some idea of the long term effects both positive and negative from all different angles.

Not sure why you enjoy eating sh!t on these discussions all the time but here you are again mouth open wide ready to take the sh!t in....so enjoy I guess. 

"Hey guys!  Here is a bunch of articles from the guys on my team that confirm our biases!!!.  I don't know why you guys don't believe this!"

GTFO.

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

5 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

"Hey guys!  Here is a bunch of articles from the guys on my team that confirm our biases!!!.  I don't know why you guys don't believe this!"

GTFO.

Tell me you didn't look at the links without saying "I didn't look at the links"

You can GTFO

[Hardcore troubadour 15,484]

8 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Tell me you didn't look at the links without saying "I didn't look at the links"

You can GTFO

I’ll read it as soon as you do. Lol. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,356]

40 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Nope. This is just pure homophobia.

Nick Fuentes and Kanye are not secret Nazis. They’re quite open about it. You can easily find what they’ve said about liking Hitler, denying the Holocaust, wishing death to Jews, etc.

Homophobic?  The pedo said all these kids wanna do is sing and suck a d1ck

as far as Kanye and Fuentes. They have a right to say and think whatever they want. That’s what’s great about this country. I know you don’t like that but they do. Let me know when they sign up for the actual SS and start gassing people. Cause right now all they are doing is speaking 

they are terrible terrible people but have committed no crime when this person is openly talking about molesting 2 year olds

[Hardcore troubadour 15,484]

All these Nazis running around yet no arrests or trials of them. Yet pedos get arrested every day. One is a real problem, one is a fantasy. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,356]

38 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Look Raiders isn't MAGA- he is the most centrist poster here.....he only defends Trump from the evil people on a lightly trafficked fantasy football message board.....

And I guess he defends Elon Musk.....

And I guess he defends Nick Fuentes.....

And I guess he defends Kanye....

And he paid his mortgage two weeks ago....just in case that comes up

Again I defend everyone’s rights regardless of what they say

And yes I’m sorry if I feel that pedophiles are the worst thing on the planet. I don’t think talking positively about hitler and nazis is worse than molesting children. Apparently you do

i also defend your right to say stupid things daily. And I point out hypocrisy both ways and only correct factual errors when I see them. 

[dogcows 1,030]

11 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

this person is openly talking about molesting 2 year olds

You just said people can talk about whatever they want. Then you immediately contradict that. Not to mention this is just a straight-up lie.

Again, you think talking about mass murder of Jews is a-ok, but doing drag shows is evil. Do you like Hitler?

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

17 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’ll read it as soon as you do. Lol. 

I'd be upset to read the articles too since they show the opposite of what you want to argue HT.

Are you autistic or on the spectrum?

You never answered my question about that.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,356]

4 minutes ago, dogcows said:

You just said people can talk about whatever they want. Then you immediately contradict that. Not to mention this is just a straight-up lie.

Again, you think talking about mass murder of Jews is a-ok, but doing drag shows is evil. Do you like Hitler?

Yes people can talk about whatever they want even molesting kids and hitler 

One is actively at the very least grooming kids which is disgusting while another is talking about something that happened 80 years ago 

the person grooming the two year olds is worse. That has an actual affect on a child

snd no drag shows are fine just like strip clubs are fine. For adults 

I’ve been to more drag shows than I have strip clubs. And I don’t even know where to sign up to be a nazi. Especially as a Jew 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,484]

7 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I'd be upset to read the articles too since they show the opposite of what you want to argue HT.

Are you autistic or on the spectrum?

You never answered my question about that.

So, some it up for us. Puberty blockers, safe? No long term affects? No side affects? I’ll hang up and listen. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,484]

10 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I'd be upset to read the articles too since they show the opposite of what you want to argue HT.

Are you autistic or on the spectrum?

You never answered my question about that.

I’ve never been tested but if I did I’d like to think I would pass. But you’re for sure on the clown spectrum.

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So, some it up for us. Puberty blockers, safe? No long term affects? No side affects? I’ll hang up and listen. 

"Sum"

I did sum it up for you...you didn't agree and made some veiled BS stuff about me not having evidence. I posted a bunch of links and now you don't want to read them.

This is why you are a dope, and always will be. You don't try to learn anything outside of the safe little bubble you want to be in

[Hardcore troubadour 15,484]

Just now, Sean Mooney said:

"Sum"

I did sum it up for you...you didn't agree and made some veiled BS stuff about me not having evidence. I posted a bunch of links and now you don't want to read them.

This is why you are a dope, and always will be. You don't try to learn anything outside of the safe little bubble you want to be in

So no answer. You could just say yes, no, maybe. But you can’t, because your info is garbage. If it were any good you could. 

[Raven Fan 362]

20 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Yes people can talk about whatever they want even molesting kids and hitler 

One is actively at the very least grooming kids which is disgusting while another is talking about something that happened 80 years ago 

the person grooming the two year olds is worse. That has an actual affect on a child

snd no drag shows are fine just like strip clubs are fine. For adults 

I’ve been to more drag shows than I have strip clubs. And I don’t even know where to sign up to be a nazi. Especially as a Jew 

Grooming a 2 year old?

And that tweet you posted about kids sucking D is likely fake since no one can find the original btw.  And it's the parents who bring the kids to the shows that are the issue.  I don't think anyone thinks kids should be at drag shows.  It's not like the drag folks are going out dragging the kids in.

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So no answer. You could just say yes, no, maybe. But you can’t, because your info is garbage. If it were any good you could. 

The answers you seek are there. You don't want to know anything outside of the carefully constructed world you live in. You could actually read and learn something. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,484]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

The answers you seek are there. You don't want to know anything outside of the carefully constructed world you live in. You could actually read and learn something. 

I want to know what you think, which is what they think, but I just want you to say it. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,356]

2 minutes ago, Raven Fan said:

Grooming a 2 year old?

And that tweet you posted about kids sucking D is likely fake since no one can find the original btw.  And it's the parents who bring the kids to the shows that are the issue.  I don't think anyone thinks kids should be at drag shows.  It's not like the drag folks are going out dragging the kids in.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11536101/Marti-Cummings-Brita-Filter-Drag-queens-invited-White-House-interesting-pasts.html

but I agree with you, the parents taking their kids are disgusting as well

 

[Raven Fan 362]

2 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11536101/Marti-Cummings-Brita-Filter-Drag-queens-invited-White-House-interesting-pasts.html

but I agree with you, the parents taking their kids are disgusting as well

 

I'd read that the tweet was fake, but it seems like it's real.  And this dude shouldn't be anywhere near the WH or kids.  That's a really bad look on Biden for inviting this dude.  I don't think they needed to invite any tranny's at all tbh.  And this dude performing for kids is wrong as well.  I'm not defending the trannys involvement with kids because I do think it's 100% wrong.  But it's the stupid parents who are most at fault followed by the trannies IMHO.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,356]

Just now, Raven Fan said:

I'd read that the tweet was fake, but it seems like it's real.  And this dude shouldn't be anywhere near the WH or kids.  That's a really bad look on Biden for inviting this dude.  I don't think they needed to invite any tranny's at all tbh.  And this dude performing for kids is wrong as well.  I'm not defending the trannys involvement with kids because I do think it's 100% wrong.  But it's the stupid parents who are most at fault followed by the trannies IMHO.

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I want to know what you think, which is what they think, but I just want you to say it. 

I will send you back to my posts on the links. You wanted "proof" I gave proof (and it's hilarious you won't read them at this point)...you are completely lost at this point eating all the sh!t.

Just admit you are a troll and want to yell at things because it makes it easier for you than actually learning something. 

[Reality 3,121]

1 minute ago, Raven Fan said:

I'd read that the tweet was fake, but it seems like it's real.  And this dude shouldn't be anywhere near the WH or kids.  That's a really bad look on Biden for inviting this dude.  I don't think they needed to invite any tranny's at all tbh.  And this dude performing for kids is wrong as well.  I'm not defending the trannys involvement with kids because I do think it's 100% wrong.  But it's the stupid parents who are most at fault followed by the trannies IMHO.

[jerryskids 6,825]

3 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

Here is an article on the benefits of gender affirming care: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/what-the-science-on-gender-affirming-care-for-transgender-kids-really-shows/

Here are papers on the study of the literature as it relates to puberty blockers:

https://acamh.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/abs/10.1111/camh.12437

https://www.degruyter.com/document/doi/10.1515/jpem-2018-0048/html

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lanchi/article/PIIS2352-4642(21)00235-2/fulltext

https://www.bmj.com/content/366/bmj.l5647

https://acamh.onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/camh.12533

 

That is at least 5 different papers (covering multiple studies that have been done) on the effectiveness of puberty blockers from a practical standpoint, a legitimacy standpoint, an effectiveness standpoint. So you are absolutely wrong in thinking that they don't test this stuff and have some idea of the long term effects both positive and negative from all different angles.

Not sure why you enjoy eating sh!t on these discussions all the time but here you are again mouth open wide ready to take the sh!t in....so enjoy I guess. 

 

56 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

Tell me you didn't look at the links without saying "I didn't look at the links"

You can GTFO

 

29 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I'd be upset to read the articles too since they show the opposite of what you want to argue HT.

Are you autistic or on the spectrum?

You never answered my question about that.

I don't think you read your own links either; after the Scientific American, the first two are just basically abstracts about meta studies with no information and you need to pay for the actual article.  I'm guessing you just got that list from one of your centrist sites.

As for the Scientific American, it provides the following link as proof that the hormone blocking process is reversible:

https://www.karger.com/Article/FullText/501336

That article contains a grand total of one instance of "revers", and here it is:

Quote

Initial treatment of young transgender adolescents with GnRHa is commonly recommended to prevent the development of undesired secondary sex characteristics [117, 118]. Such reversible treatment enables an extended diagnostic phase for gender clarification before electing to proceed with further gender-affirming hormone treatment [119, 120].

GnRHa suppress the HPG axis, resulting in a decreased testicular volume and the cessation of menses [121, 122]. Additional changes include a decrease in height SDS and BMD along with alterations in body composition consisting of increased body fat and a decreased lean body mass [121]. The impact on BMD is concerning since lumbar spine Z-scores at age 22 years were found to be lower than those observed prior to treatment [122, 123], suggesting a possible permanent decrement in BMD. Thus, it is unclear how long GnRHa can safely be administered. The effects of GnRHa on adolescent brain maturation are unclear. GnRHa therapy prevents maturation of primary oocytes and spermatogonia and may preclude gamete maturation, and currently there are no proven methods to preserve fertility in early pubertal transgender adolescents. Care for each adolescent must be individualized, with awareness of gender fluidity and ethical guidelines [124].

So, it just claims it is reversible, then the following paragraph lists a bunch of impacts and concerns of the treatment.

For grins, I looked at references 119 and 120.  119 simply says "the effects are reversible."  120 says nothing about it.

It is clear to me that the Left is playing semantic games conflating reversible with "if we stop it won't get any worse."  

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

6 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

 

 

I don't think you read your own links either; after the Scientific American, the first two are just basically abstracts about meta studies with no information and you need to pay for the actual article.  I'm guessing you just got that list from one of your centrist sites.

As for the Scientific American, it provides the following link as proof that the hormone blocking process is reversible:

https://www.karger.com/Article/FullText/501336

That article contains a grand total of one instance of "revers", and here it is:

So, it just claims it is reversible, then the following paragraph lists a bunch of impacts and concerns of the treatment.

For grins, I looked at references 119 and 120.  119 simply says "the effects are reversible."  120 says nothing about it.

It is clear to me that the Left is playing semantic games conflating reversible with "if we stop it won't get any worse."  

I've read the articles as I have access to them. I don't have "centrist sites" so piss off with your condescending "centrist sites" stuff. I gave the abstracts....I can't transfer my subscriptions to you. You have money- spend it. If you choose not to- abstracts cover the basics of the research. 

And I purposely tried to includes links that covered both sides of the issue...because- if something shows the negative effects it still shows studying it. I was trying to throw HT a bone and he still couldn't be bothered to look. 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,484]

So after all that research and expense, Mooney can’t say if they are safe for kids or not. 

[BuckSwope 654]

1 hour ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

"Hey guys!  Here is a bunch of articles from the guys on my team that confirm our biases!!!.  I don't know why you guys don't believe this!"

GTFO.

Let me guess what you are looking for:  somebody asks you to post a link that isn't biased, you post some b.s. about why would you bother because our lib brains wouldn't bother reading the info, and you get to go on pretending that you have better info when we know it's just as biased as what you are crying about here.  

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

3 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

Let me guess what you are looking for:  somebody asks you to post a link that isn't biased, you post some b.s. about why would you bother because our lib brains wouldn't bother reading the info, and you get to go on pretending that you have better info when we know it's just as biased as what you are crying about here.  

This is what they do....they want links. You post them and they try to just discredit them by not reading them and showing no idea what is there- even when you show links that 

But they do have jerryskids here to do their reading for them because he has elected himself board defender of the MAGA crowd. 

[BuckSwope 654]

10 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

This is what they do....they want links. You post them and they try to just discredit them by not reading them and showing no idea what is there- even when you show links that 

But they do have jerryskids here to do their reading for them because he has elected himself board defender of the MAGA crowd. 

Well aware.  It started in full a few years ago over there with all the fighting about fake news, MSM, the media bias charts, etc..     People would post stuff from some right wing site, people would fight them about the crap source, etc.   FF a few years later and now it's evolved mostly into just jumping to that last part on both sides.  Few bother (on either side of the issue) to read or comment on the info - just goes right to the "nice source" portion of the program.  I'm guessing, especially since I'm pretty sure there are similar posters on each site, the same thing happened here.  

 

I used to be worse about it, but have softened on my stance on sources a bit.  I still stick to the core stuff I use on a daily basis, but more likely to meet people half way on their info.  I'm still less likely to click a Youtube link than other things, but I try to read what the person I am talking to is reading.      I told somebody here, that is mostly my reason to ask for a link - I prefer reading exactly what they read when I can.  Sure, I could Google search the same thing, but I could read one of dozens of other things that pop up and not what they read, and that's not great for conversation.  

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

6 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

Well aware.  It started in full a few years ago over there with all the fighting about fake news, MSM, the media bias charts, etc..     People would post stuff from some right wing site, people would fight them about the crap source, etc.   FF a few years later and now it's evolved mostly into just jumping to that last part on both sides.  Few bother (on either side of the issue) to read or comment on the info - just goes right to the "nice source" portion of the program.  I'm guessing, especially since I'm pretty sure there are similar posters on each site, the same thing happened here.  

 

I used to be worse about it, but have softened on my stance on sources a bit.  I still stick to the core stuff I use on a daily basis, but more likely to meet people half way on their info.  I'm still less likely to click a Youtube link than other things, but I try to read what the person I am talking to is reading.      I told somebody here, that is mostly my reason to ask for a link - I prefer reading exactly what they read when I can.  Sure, I could Google search the same thing, but I could read one of dozens of other things that pop up and not what they read, and that's not great for conversation.  

It's even funnier in this instance because I said "They do test this stuff. They aren't just shoveling pills and meds at people without knowing effects it has." HT decided to be incredulous about this and essentially said they don't have tests on it....I provided links of testing and research- both for my POV and for HT's overall POV as to the safety of these things....and he still couldn't be bothered to read. Dude isn't worth the time at this point but I do enjoy watching him piss all over himself time and again in these discussions. 

Like you- I'm always up for a legitimate source that runs counter to my way of thinking. That's how people learn and evolve

 

[jerryskids 6,825]

39 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I've read the articles as I have access to them. I don't have "centrist sites" so piss off with your condescending "centrist sites" stuff. I gave the abstracts....I can't transfer my subscriptions to you. You have money- spend it. If you choose not to- abstracts cover the basics of the research. 

And I purposely tried to includes links that covered both sides of the issue...because- if something shows the negative effects it still shows studying it. I was trying to throw HT a bone and he still couldn't be bothered to look. 

 

You have access to the Journal of Pediatric Endocrinology and Metabolism?  Impressive.  Here is the "useful" info on your link for that one:

Quote

Abstract

Background:

The objective of the study was to identify national trends in the utilization of histrelin acetate implants among transgender children in the United States.

Methods:

We analyzed demographic, diagnostic and treatment data from 2004 to 2016 on the use of histrelin acetate reported to the Pediatric Health Information System (PHIS) to determine the temporal trends in its use for transgender-related billing diagnoses, e.g. “gender identity disorder”. Demographic and payer status data on this patient population were also collected.

Results:

Between 2004 and 2016, the annual number of implants placed for a transgender-related diagnosis increased from 0 to 63. The average age for placement was 14 years. Compared to natal females, natal males were more likely to receive implants (57 vs. 46) and more likely to have implants placed at an older age (62% of natal males vs. 50% of natal females were ≥;13 years; p<0.04). The majority of children were White non-Hispanic (White: 60, minority: 21). When compared to the distribution of patients treated for precocious puberty (White: 1428, minority: 1421), White non-Hispanic patients were more likely to be treated with a histrelin acetate implant for a transgender-related diagnosis than minority patients (p<0.001). This disparity was present even among minority patients with commercial insurance (p<0.001).

Conclusions:

Utilization of histrelin acetate implants among transgender children has increased dramatically. Compared to natal females, natal males are more likely to receive implants and also more likely to receive implants at an older age. Treated transgender patients are more likely to be White when compared to the larger cohort of patients being treated with histrelin acetate for central precocious puberty (CPP), thus identifying a potential racial disparity in access to medically appropriate transgender care

Well, I'm convinced.   

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

6 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

You have access to the Journal of Pediatric Endocrinology and Metabolism?  Impressive.  Here is the "useful" info on your link for that one:

Well, I'm convinced.   

I have means...and money. 

Also, the debate was that stuff was or was not tested. 

[BuckSwope 654]

7 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

It's even funnier in this instance because I said "They do test this stuff. They aren't just shoveling pills and meds at people without knowing effects it has." HT decided to be incredulous about this and essentially said they don't have tests on it....I provided links of testing and research- both for my POV and for HT's overall POV as to the safety of these things....and he still couldn't be bothered to read. Dude isn't worth the time at this point but I do enjoy watching him piss all over himself time and again in these discussions. 

Like you- I'm always up for a legitimate source that runs counter to my way of thinking. That's how people learn and evolve

 

At the very least we should be able to act like grown ass adults and be able to say something like "thanks for the link - I read it, here is something I took away from it, and here it looks like their bias might be showing a bit".   Something like that.   

Frankly, one of the reasons I've soften on my stance, is that while it's super easy to stick to a core group of sites and sources for daily info and news, sometimes when you are trying to look up something specific, you don't get to always use the greatest information.  Topics like trans info, covid, and shootings/gun control I've noticed it a lot.   It's sometimes hard to find any stats or info without wading outside your usual sources.  

[MDC 7,470]

12 hours ago, jerryskids said:

I see the distinction you are drawing, but I'm not sure how you legislate it at a federal level.  Sounds like you are proposing a law that says "states shall allow trans medical decisions at the then current age of any other medical decisions, and states can't make a separate law."  Seems unwieldy, and I'd expect the current SCOTUS would instead treat it like it did abortion.   

I definitely am proposing this as a sort of “If I were king” thought experiment, not anything I think can really be legislated.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,484]

July 2022 - “New findings from the Food and Drug administration show a link between common puberty blockers and serious risk for the youths that take them” 

[jerryskids 6,825]

50 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I have means...and money. 

Also, the debate was that stuff was or was not tested. 

HT's point wasn't on explicit testing per se, but rather that you can't have it both ways.  On the one hand you say that use of puberty blockers is very rare; if so there is by definition little actual data on the effects, particularly in the long term.  Now you are saying it is well tested, which implies a lot of use.  Perhaps they can extrapolate the precocious puberty data, although I don't know how common that is?

Although your links do list quite a few negative effects.  I presume that the rationale is that the good outweighs the bad?  That may be true for actual trans people; for the confused, probably not so much.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,120]

39 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

HT's point wasn't on explicit testing per se, but rather that you can't have it both ways.  On the one hand you say that use of puberty blockers is very rare; if so there is by definition little actual data on the effects, particularly in the long term.  Now you are saying it is well tested, which implies a lot of use.  Perhaps they can extrapolate the precocious puberty data, although I don't know how common that is?

Although your links do list quite a few negative effects.  I presume that the rationale is that the good outweighs the bad?  That may be true for actual trans people; for the confused, probably not so much.

Right.  That's why I told him to GTFO.  He doesn't even read what he posts.  all he does is search google for headlines that confirm his bias, links them here and then acts all incredulous when people don't believe his lies. 

These guys are in a cult - Jim Jones and David Koresh only WISH they had as loyal and zealous followers as the pedo-supporting DNC does.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,120]

2 hours ago, BuckSwope said:

Let me guess what you are looking for:  somebody asks you to post a link that isn't biased, you post some b.s. about why would you bother because our lib brains wouldn't bother reading the info, and you get to go on pretending that you have better info when we know it's just as biased as what you are crying about here.  

And, once again, you've guessed incorrectly.  Of course, that's no surprise - it's what you guys do.

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

3 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Right.  That's why I told him to GTFO.  He doesn't even read what he posts.  all he does is search google for headlines that confirm his bias, links them here and then acts all incredulous when people don't believe his lies. 

These guys are in a cult - Jim Jones and David Koresh only WISH they had as loyal and zealous followers as the pedo-supporting DNC does.

You are a dope. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,120]

Just now, Sean Mooney said:

You are a dope. 

And still 1000x smarter than you.  GTFO.

[BuckSwope 654]

2 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

And, once again, you've guessed incorrectly.  Of course, that's no surprise - it's what you guys do.

I will stand corrected when I see your unbiased counter links then.