More grooming from the left

[Fireballer 2,642]

34 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

All caps didn't get it through to you.

At this point you are just admitting to being a moron. If you want to remain ignorant go for it. The longer you resist, the sweeter that "L" you are taking becomes

The longer I resist? Dude, you're a whacko.  That's just weird rhetoric. This pretty much sums up what people assume you are like in real life.  JFC.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,407]

So, Mooney can’t answer the question. What a twat 

[TimHauck 2,856]

28 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Sorry but this is the dumbest post I've seen here in some time.  The number of blue pills you would need to take to believe what you wrote may be fatal.   

I’m not saying the teachers just randomly decided to teach about the word pride and rainbows in June.  Gay pride was clearly the reason the teacher did the project, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they taught the kids what it meant to be gay.  It was probably just about “being proud of who you are and being accepting of everyone” or something like that.  I guess you could consider it “grooming” to be accepting of gays once they figure out what gay actually means in a few years, but it’s not grooming to be abused or whatever crazy talk people are saying here, or even grooming them to turn gay for some reason.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,407]

Hack is a foookin moron. 

[DonS 3,292]

10 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I’m not saying the teachers just randomly decided to teach about the word pride and rainbows in June.  Gay pride was clearly the reason the teacher did the project, but that doesn’t necessarily mean they taught the kids what it meant to be gay.  It was probably just about “being proud of who you are and being accepting of everyone” or something like that.  I guess you could consider it “grooming” to be accepting of gays once they figure out what gay actually means in a few years, but it’s not grooming to be abused or whatever crazy talk people are saying here, or even grooming them to turn gay for some reason.

Wait a sec.  Didn't you just say it was "likely" they were simply teaching about rainbows?   Nice backpedal. 

[TimHauck 2,856]

1 minute ago, DonS said:

Wait a sec.  Didn't you just say it was "likely" they were simply teaching about rainbows?   Nice backpedal. 

They were likely teaching about rainbows. Because of pride month.  Doesn’t mean they were teaching them what it meant to be gay.

[DonS 3,292]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

They were likely teaching about rainbows. Because of pride month.  Doesn’t mean they were teaching them what it meant to be gay.

If they were simply teaching about rainbows then why did some kids use pink and light blue?  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,407]

11 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

They were likely teaching about rainbows. Because of pride month.  Doesn’t mean they were teaching them what it meant to be gay.

I hope bad stuff happens to you this week.Not too bad, but negative. And it’s not because you defend and downplay this indoctrination. If you were man enough to do that I’d say fine. No, you want to play assclown. Let us know if something bad happens. I’m rooting for it. 

[Reality 3,121]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

Yeah, as I said earlier, pride (and rainbows) don’t always refer to LGBTQ+ people.  It’s certainly possible (likely even), that they just learned about rainbows and the word pride without it referring to gay people.

My God, you're focking idiot.

[Voltaire 5,315]

4 hours ago, Utilit99 said:

mooney is so over the top defensive about all this that I'm sure he has something to hide. He is definitely guilty of some of this perversion. 

He's guilty of working in a school, defending/embracing it's exposure to children, and criticizing people who condemn it. He wants to see it all normalized and gets upset when parents fight back.

[TimHauck 2,856]

17 minutes ago, DonS said:

If they were simply teaching about rainbows then why did some kids use pink and light blue?  

They could have just shown a bunch of flags and said “these represent all the different people in the world” or something.  For example, apparently the purple circle thing is supposedly intersex according to the replies on that tweet.  Not sure if the white and blue stripes is something or just some dumb kids.  You and @jerryskids must not have young kids.  Stuff (not necessarily relating to gays) gets watered down all the time to turn into lessons/art projects for little kids.  I’d agree that if this was my kid’s class I wouldn’t be too happy, but once again I’m not convinced this project involved teaching kids what it meant to be gay.

So to clarify, your claim is the lesson was most likely to teach all the kids what the acronym LGBTQIA+ stands for?

[DonS 3,292]

10 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

They could have just shown a bunch of flags and said “these represent all the different people in the world” or something.  For example, apparently the purple circle thing is supposedly intersex according to the replies on that tweet.  Not sure if the white and blue stripes is something or just some dumb kids.  You and @jerryskids must not have young kids.  Stuff (not necessarily relating to gays) gets watered down all the time to turn into lessons/art projects for little kids.  I’d agree that if this was my kid’s class I wouldn’t be too happy, but once again I’m not convinced this project involved teaching kids what it meant to be gay.

So to clarify, your claim is the lesson was most likely to teach all the kids what the acronym LGBTQIA+ stands for?

Oh so it's because I or @jerryskidsdon't have children so we can't understand your bullsh1t line of reasoning?  Newsflash: my kids are 25 and 23 and Jerry has kids of his own.

My God man just stop trying to say this was just about teaching about rainbows.  Not even Gutter and Mooney are coming to your defense on this one. 

[TimHauck 2,856]

32 minutes ago, DonS said:

Oh so it's because I or @jerryskidsdon't have children so we can't understand your bullsh1t line of reasoning?  Newsflash: my kids are 25 and 23 and Jerry has kids of his own.

My God man just stop trying to say this was just about teaching about rainbows.  Not even Gutter and Mooney are coming to your defense on this one. 

That’s exactly my point.  20 years ago was a very different time.  Being gay is a lot more accepted now than it was back then, so it makes sense to start the process in getting kids familiar with what’s out there.  That’s not grooming, that’s literally what teaching is.  For example, I’m sure kids probably noticed that a lot of companies have put rainbows in their logos this month.  But yes, I still maintain that they may not have actually taught the class what it means to be gay in order to complete this project.

[Fireballer 2,642]

9 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

 so it makes sense to start the process in getting kids familiar with what’s out there.  

It makes sense for who to start the process?  

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

1 hour ago, Fireballer said:

The longer I resist? Dude, you're a whacko.  That's just weird rhetoric. This pretty much sums up what people assume you are like in real life.  JFC.

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So, Mooney can’t answer the question. What a twat 

I know you can't read but I answered the question when it was asked over a week ago. I've constantly referred back to it. 

1 hour ago, Voltaire said:

He's guilty of working in a school, defending/embracing it's exposure to children, and criticizing people who condemn it. He wants to see it all normalized and gets upset when parents fight back.

I never really defended it and I've said a few times that some of these people are nut jobs. I do think it's fine to talk decency towards other people and I get upset when parents say stupid sh!t as part of their argument. They are fine to speak their opinion. 

[Voltaire 5,315]

15 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

That’s exactly my point.  20 years ago was a very different time.  Being gay is a lot more accepted now than it was back then, so it makes sense to start the process in getting kids familiar with what’s out there.  That’s not grooming, that’s literally what teaching is.  For example, I’m sure kids probably noticed that a lot of companies have put rainbows in their logos this month.  But yes, I still maintain that they may not have actually taught the class what it means to be gay in order to complete this project.

This sentiment is disgusting. We never chose this as a society, It was forced on us by the sickos in Hollywood, New York,  and in Big Tech.

No. No. No in my community.   Not with my kids.  I'll teach my own values, thanks. At least people have a vote to put in place a school board that shares their values or barring that can move to a place that does. Their one recourse other than roll over and let the scumbags win.

< ----- California            Degenerate Pervert Sunday School is over there.    New York -------> 

[Voltaire 5,315]

Just now, Sean Mooney said:

 

I never really defended it and I've said a few times that some of these people are nut jobs. I do think it's fine to talk decency towards other people and I get upset when parents say stupid sh!t as part of their argument. They are fine to speak their opinion. 

Well since you're not lifting a finger to stop people where you work from promoting it, but instead are getting bent out of shape at people online who criticize it, what other conclusion can we draw?

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

2 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

This sentiment is disgusting. We never chose this as a society, It was forced on us by the sicko degenerate perverts in Hollywood, New York,  and in Big Tech.

No. No. No in my community.   Not with my kids.  I'll teach my own values, thanks. At least people have a vote to put in place a school board that shares their values or barring that can move to a place that does.

< ----- California            Degenerate Pervert Sunday School is over there.    New York -------> 

You guys do know there are LGBTQIAA+ people in middle America right?

Also, I think it's fine to ask the question of "What was the concept of the lesson here?" What you are seeing is a picture out of context. Now if the context highlights that this was clearly done to promote some agenda- well yeah then that is more of an issue. 

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

1 minute ago, Voltaire said:

Well since you're not lifting a finger to stop people where you work from promoting it, but instead are getting bent out of shape at people online who criticize it, what other conclusion can we draw?

How do you know what goes on with me at my school or what my school teaches?

I get bent out of shape at intolerance and the dopes like utilit99, HT, Fireballer, and digby are intolerant pieces of trash. 

[Voltaire 5,315]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

You guys do know there are LGBTQIAA+ people in middle America right?

Also, I think it's fine to ask the question of "What was the concept of the lesson here?" What you are seeing is a picture out of context. Now if the context highlights that this was clearly done to promote some agenda- well yeah then that is more of an issue. 

They don't just draw the rainbow flags which would be bad enough. They draw the cat vomit variations that only sicko experts in LGBTQ can recognize and identify. They're clearly being taught to see this as normal if not formally being groomed as well.

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

Just now, Voltaire said:

They don't just draw the rainbow flags which would be bad enough. They draw the cat vomit variations that only sicko experts in LGBTQ can recognize and identify. They're clearly being taught to see this as normal if not formally being groomed as well.

You guys overuse the "grooming" term. Is that the new terminology word to hammer on FOX News or Newsmax? If the lesson is what you all think- it is solely to teach tolerance of LGBTQIAA+ people which is not "grooming." 

[Voltaire 5,315]

2 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

How do you know what goes on with me at my school or what my school teaches?

I get bent out of shape at intolerance and the dopes like utilit99, HT, Fireballer, and digby are intolerant pieces of trash. 

I see you defend the practice, not see offensive stuff as offensive, offer the slightest criticism at best at the most egregious violations, and dismiss people who object as irrational... then I speculate this is how you are in real life too.

Since you have the sickos' backs online and take on crticisms online, I think it's fair to conclude you do so in your work environment as well.

[Fireballer 2,642]

9 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

How do you know what goes on with me at my school or what my school teaches?

I get bent out of shape at intolerance and the dopes like utilit99, HT, Fireballer, and digby are intolerant pieces of trash. 

Triggered psycho.  And wrong.  You literally defended training about a dude shoving a d!ldo up his a$$ and fake cvm shots if they happened to mention pronoun use...and we're trash.  Your moral compass is in the sh!tter 

[Voltaire 5,315]

6 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

You guys overuse the "grooming" term. Is that the new terminology word to hammer on FOX News or Newsmax? If the lesson is what you all think- it is solely to teach tolerance of LGBTQIAA+ people which is not "grooming." 

It's normalizing... is that better? I mean you just got done saying you don't want me to speculate on how you respond at school. I think it's pretty darn obvious what you do at school since you see this as a normal project worth teaching what you do in your work environment.

Also, I never said you're a groomer nor gutterboy, but I think obvious that you look the other way while your students get this stuff hoisted on them while dismissing valid objections.

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

3 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

I see you defend the practice, not see offensive stuff as offensive, offer the slightest criticism at best at the most egregious violations, and dismiss people who object as irrational... then I speculate this is how you are in real life too.

Since you have the sickos' backs online and take on crticisms online, I think it's fair to conclude you do so in your work environment as well.

The most I've said is I would want to know more about the rationale of the lesson. Sorry that asking for more information is wrong to you.

Those 4 I mentioned are irrational. I didn't mention jerryskids you notice. I find him mostly level headed and thought out even if I disagree with him. 

Again- you don't know what I fight against or what comes up at our school. 

[TimHauck 2,856]

14 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

It makes sense for who to start the process?  

Schools.  Parents use schools as a daycare center, they need to realize their kids may learn about some things there before the parents teach them. Like @MLCKAA admitted in his birds and bees thread.

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

2 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Triggered psycho.  And wrong.  You literally defended training about a dude shoving a d!ldo up his a$$ and fake cvm shots if they happened to mention pronoun use...and we're trash.  Your moral compass is in the sh!tter 

Clownshow. And a liar to boot. 

1 minute ago, Voltaire said:

It's normalizing... is that better? I mean you just got done saying you don't want me to speculate on how you respond at school. I think it's pretty darn obvious what you do at school since you see this as a normal project worth teaching what you do in your work environment.

Also, I never said you're a groomer nor gutterboy, but I think obvious that you look the other way while your students get this stuff hoisted on them while dismissing valid objections.

Teaching tolerance would be more accurate. I also didn't say it was a normal project necessarily. And you constantly keep using the groomer/grooming term. 

[Fireballer 2,642]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Schools.  Parents use schools as a daycare center, they need to realize their kids may learn about some things there before the parents teach them. Like @MLCKAA admitted in his birds and bees thread.

Wrong. That's the real sticking point Tim.  The only difference in gay and straight people is who they sleep with. Schools shouldn't divide people into groups based on who they have sex with and teach kids the difference. There's absolutely no reason for schools to make that distinguishment. None.  

[Voltaire 5,315]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

Clownshow. And a liar to boot. 

Teaching tolerance would be more accurate. I also didn't say it was a normal project necessarily. And you constantly keep using the groomer/grooming term. 

I don't think the terms "grooming/groomer" are being used incorrectly, considering that 39% of Gen Z are on the LGBTQ spectrum. I personally don't throw it at posters here out of respect for the discussion. I don't think you and gutterboy are the running backs nor quarterbacks of gender Ideology, I think you're the offensive linemen.

[Baker Boy 1,699]

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[Sean Mooney 1,983]

5 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

I don't think the terms "grooming/groomer" are being used incorrectly, considering that 39% of Gen Z are on the LGBTQ spectrum. I personally don't throw it at posters here out of respect for the discussion. I don't think you and gutterboy are the running backs nor quarterbacks of gender Ideology, I think you're the offensive linemen.

Grooming literally means "the action by a pedophile of preparing a child for a meeting, especially via an internet chat room, with the intention of committing a sexual offense." So you have to believe the specific teacher is trying to make it so they can bang that kid later on in life.

 

[TimHauck 2,856]

17 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

This sentiment is disgusting. We never chose this as a society, It was forced on us by the sickos in Hollywood, New York,  and in Big Tech.

No. No. No in my community.   Not with my kids.  I'll teach my own values, thanks. At least people have a vote to put in place a school board that shares their values or barring that can move to a place that does. Their one recourse other than roll over and let the scumbags win.

< ----- California            Degenerate Pervert Sunday School is over there.    New York -------> 

LOL.  It wasn’t forced by Hollywood.  It already existed.  Not to mention there aren’t even that many shows/movies about gays anyway.

[TimHauck 2,856]

15 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Wrong. That's the real sticking point Tim.  The only difference in gay and straight people is who they sleep with. Schools shouldn't divide people into groups based on who they have sex with and teach kids the difference. There's absolutely no reason for schools to make that distinguishment. None.  

So there’s no age where it’s appropriate for schools to discuss being gay?

[Voltaire 5,315]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

LOL.  It wasn’t forced by Hollywood.  It already existed.  Not to mention there aren’t even that many shows/movies about gays anyway.

You must not have seen much of anything produced in the last five years but  in fairness, I'm the least informed person on that since I haven't seen much of anything for the last twenty, myself. I like living in my 2001 culture bubble.

 

[Baker Boy 1,699]

14 hours ago, TimHauck said:

So there’s no age where it’s appropriate for schools to discuss being gay?

It would be discussed in the same class that discusses being heterosexual. 

[TimHauck 2,856]

1 minute ago, Baker Boy said:

It would be discussed in the same class that discusses  being heterosexual. 

That doesn’t appear to be Fireballer’s opinion…

[Voltaire 5,315]

4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

So there’s no age where it’s appropriate for schools to discuss being gay?

To me, no. I wouldn't bother with it at all. I wouldn't object to a lesson or two in a high school health class or a high school psychology class.

[Fireballer 2,642]

13 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

So there’s no age where it’s appropriate for schools to discuss being gay?

What does "discuss being gay" mean?  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,407]

53 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

How do you know what goes on with me at my school or what my school teaches?

I get bent out of shape at intolerance and the dopes like utilit99, HT, Fireballer, and digby are intolerant pieces of trash. 

Intolerant of what? Who? 

[DonS 3,292]

1 hour ago, TimHauck said:

That’s exactly my point.  20 years ago was a very different time.  Being gay is a lot more accepted now than it was back then, so it makes sense to start the process in getting kids familiar with what’s out there.  That’s not grooming, that’s literally what teaching is.  For example, I’m sure kids probably noticed that a lot of companies have put rainbows in their logos this month.  But yes, I still maintain that they may not have actually taught the class what it means to be gay in order to complete this project.

According to you it was "most likely" kids just being taught about rainbows.  What does 20 years ago vs now have to do with anything if it was purely about rainbows as you insisted?