Utilit99 4,099 Posted June 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, Voltaire said: So you're the one who got Dave Weigel suspended... I wish. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,001 Posted June 8, 2022 So no one thought anything about the drugs that kids are being given? Or the mutilation? The slippery slope is real. There’s proof, No matter what beta cucks think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,634 Posted June 8, 2022 1 hour ago, Horseman said: So are they all "born that way" or are we finally admitting to converting some? He was born with XY chromazones, and a nutsack deformity. Not his fault he was assigned the wrong sex at birth, but at least they figured it out. Of course trans people are “converting” and were not born that way biologically speaking. Is anyone debating that? Regardless, Semenya is not trans and was raised as a girl. She even offered to show officials her vagina: https://www.espn.com/olympics/trackandfield/story/_/id/33972416/olympic-champion-caster-semenya-says-offered-show-track-officials-body-prove-was-female So considering Walsh’s definition referenced reproductive organs, wouldn’t that make Semenya neither male nor female? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,399 Posted June 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Of course trans people are “converting” and were not born that way biologically speaking. Is anyone debating that? Regardless, Semenya is not trans and was raised as a girl. She even offered to show officials her vagina: https://www.espn.com/olympics/trackandfield/story/_/id/33972416/olympic-champion-caster-semenya-says-offered-show-track-officials-body-prove-was-female So considering Walsh’s definition referenced reproductive organs, wouldn’t that make Semenya neither male nor female? Look I'm sure you're the expert on trans people. But, every science book I've ever read defines Male as having a Y chromosome. And he was XY, not even XXY, and the reason they stopped allowing him to compete. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,001 Posted June 8, 2022 Normal, rational guy: If you tell young kids they are born in the wrong body, some of them are going to transform themselves with irreversible drugs and mutilate their bodies with surgery. Beta Cuck: Stupid conservatives with their slippery slope argument Also Beta Cuck: It’s not widespread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,634 Posted June 8, 2022 9 minutes ago, Horseman said: But, every science book I've ever read defines Male as having a Y chromosome. Well I don’t think that’s how Matt Walsh defined it… Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted June 8, 2022 :jeopardy music: @MDC Called it "fishing in a barrell" Why yes it is, just ask the question..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,171 Posted June 8, 2022 1 hour ago, KSB2424 said: You're good at that. Just passing over the macro larger issue at hand to pick out some small micro inconsitency that means little to the topic. Some call that "Not seeing the forest for the trees". Others call that a Red Herring. Either way 9 times out of 10 that person can't back their postition and resorts to misdirections such as those. So I'll be extremely direct: @TimHauck What is a woman? @MDC What is a woman? @Pimpadeaux What is a woman? @GutterBoy What is a woman? The short answer is a person with a vagina. Why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,399 Posted June 8, 2022 12 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Well I don’t think that’s how Matt Walsh defined it… Well your the only one that has an issue using XY guy being trans. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,399 Posted June 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, MDC said: The short answer is a person with a vagina. Why? Good gawd that's lazy. A plastic surgeon can give you a vagina. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,634 Posted June 8, 2022 15 minutes ago, Horseman said: Well your the only one that has an issue using XY guy being trans. C’mon you don’t think there’s a difference between Semenya and pretty much all other trans people? I wasn’t a gender studies major but it looks like transgender is defined as someone who identifies with a gender that is different than what they were assigned at birth. Semenya was assigned a female at birth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,171 Posted June 8, 2022 15 minutes ago, Horseman said: Good gawd that's lazy. A plastic surgeon can give you a vagina. Realky? How much? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted June 8, 2022 29 minutes ago, MDC said: The short answer is a person with a vagina. Why? Thank You. You know why. So why are people without a vagina competing in womens sports or going to womens bathrooms? I feel like I'm talking to my kids about 4th grade logic but here we are. JFC Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,399 Posted June 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, TimHauck said: C’mon you don’t think there’s a difference between Semenya and pretty much all other trans people? I wasn’t a gender studies major but it looks like transgender is defined as someone who identifies with a gender that is different than what they were assigned at birth. Semenya was assigned a female at birth. For fok sake. Incorrectly assigned at birth. Like when the DMV screwed up and forgot my motorcycle endorsement. You should have skipped gender studies and tried to locate the science building. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,249 Posted June 8, 2022 33 minutes ago, Horseman said: Good gawd that's lazy. A plastic surgeon can give you a vagina. At least he would have some then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,634 Posted June 8, 2022 16 minutes ago, Horseman said: You should have skipped gender studies and tried to locate the science building. Guess you could tell the same to Matt Walsh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,171 Posted June 8, 2022 24 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: Thank You. You know why. So why are people without a vagina competing in womens sports or going to womens bathrooms? I feel like I'm talking to my kids about 4th grade logic but here we are. JFC You okay? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted June 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, MDC said: You okay? Never better. Y'all funny, can't even answer a simply question that my 4th grader could. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,207 Posted June 8, 2022 41 minutes ago, TimHauck said: C’mon you don’t think there’s a difference between Semenya and pretty much all other trans people? I wasn’t a gender studies major but it looks like transgender is defined as someone who identifies with a gender that is different than what they were assigned at birth. Semenya was assigned a female at birth. There's a big difference. Unlike others, she has a legitimate physical medical condition, not a mental delusion. Semenya isn't deliberately trying to cheat or trick us all into going along with her in pretending that what happens in her imagination is real. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,634 Posted June 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Voltaire said: There's a big difference. Unlike others, she has a legit medical condition. Semenya isn't deliberately trying to cheat or trick us all into going along with pretending that her mental delusions are real. Thank you. That’s all I’m saying. Again was really just a minor nitpick as I think her photo was only shown for a about a second, but perusing twitter I wasn’t the only one to notice. Walsh definitely seemed like he did a lot of research, going to Africa as well as all over the country for the interviews. The part about the Reimer twins was interesting too, I had heard about them but never read too much about it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted June 8, 2022 8 minutes ago, Voltaire said: There's a big difference. Unlike others, she has a legitimate physical medical condition, not a mental delusion. Semenya isn't deliberately trying to cheat or trick us all into going along with her in pretending that what happens in her imagination is real. He's taking a .001% medical conditon to try and rationalize gender disphoria, as if logical peiple can't decificer the difference. Again, misdirection. Red Herring. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,634 Posted June 8, 2022 7 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: He's taking a .001% medical conditon to try and rationalize gender disphoria, as if logical peiple can't decificer the difference. Again, misdirection. Red Herring. JFC guess you didn’t read my last reply to you, or my first post in this thread? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted June 8, 2022 Tim, lets just settle this. What is a woman? Hint: it shoudn't take 40 words. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,634 Posted June 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: Tim, lets just settle this. What is a woman? Hint: it shoudn't take 40 words. Ok so no you didn’t read my first reply to you then Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,171 Posted June 8, 2022 26 minutes ago, KSB2424 said: Never better. Y'all funny, can't even answer a simply question that my 4th grader could. I thought I did answer it. I’m going to bed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted June 8, 2022 7 hours ago, Horseman said: Look I'm sure you're the expert on trans people. But, every science book I've ever read defines Male as having a Y chromosome. And he was XY, not even XXY, and the reason they stopped allowing him to compete. https://www.vox.com/2014/6/3/5776396/why-theyre-not-really-sex-chromosomes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,001 Posted June 8, 2022 Beta cucks using links to define a woman. Lol. Use your words. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
avoiding injuries 1,522 Posted June 8, 2022 This thread could have been ended in 1-2 posts. “The sex of most mammals, including humans, is genetically determined by the XY sex-determination system where males have X and Y (as opposed to X and X) sex chromosomes. During reproduction, the male contributes either an X sperm or a Y sperm, while the female always contributes an X egg. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted June 8, 2022 54 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said: This thread could have been ended in 1-2 posts. “The sex of most mammals, including humans, is genetically determined by the XY sex-determination system where males have X and Y (as opposed to X and X) sex chromosomes. During reproduction, the male contributes either an X sperm or a Y sperm, while the female always contributes an X egg. The science has evolved and it's not that simple anymore. The gender identity of a person is the final result of genetic, hormonal and morphologic sex. Over a long period sex determination, and, specifically, male sex determination, has been correlated to the presence of the Y chromosome, which in turn has been the karyotype signal of the testes. However, research has provided data to convince that this theory is only part of the truth. In addition to the Y chromosome, a multitude of other genes influence sex determination and are able to cause male to female sex-reversal and vice versa. It is of great interest that these genes are located in more than one autosomal chromosomes or even in the X chromosome. It has become obvious that sex determination, according to the genetic sex, is a complicated matter that not only requires the presence of Y chromosome. This fact triggered extensive research of the Y chromosome and led to great insight into its structure, origin, evolution and eventual fate in humans. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2658794/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted June 8, 2022 11 hours ago, KSB2424 said: All misdirection. Can’t even answer a simple, direct question. Science is on your side, fear not woke friend. Sorry I didn't feel like playing around with you last night, but I have some time this morning. I would say a woman is any adult that says they are. If a person comes up to me and tells me they are a woman, and they look like a traditional woman, then who am I to argue? Why should I perform an exam to see if they fit my definition of what a woman is. And vice versa, if some dude with a beard told me he was a woman, I'd laugh, roll my eyes, and walk away. Why should I argue with the dude that he's not a woman. So in the end, call yourself whatever you want, I really don't care. I'm not about pushing my beliefs on other people. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,831 Posted June 8, 2022 Silly times. And Gutter is playing the game. If someone comes up to Gutter and says they are a dog and pizz on his foot he will say who am I to judge? You are a dog. And pat them on the head. We have entered thr twilight zone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted June 8, 2022 1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said: Silly times. And Gutter is playing the game. If someone comes up to Gutter and says they are a dog and pizz on his foot he will say who am I to judge? You are a dog. And pat them on the head. We have entered thr twilight zone. We're not talking about dogs. If someone told me they were a dog and pissed on my foot I would punch them in the face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted June 8, 2022 listen2me is gonna be the gender police and demand to see the d1ck or gash of every person he sees. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,831 Posted June 8, 2022 Just now, GutterBoy said: We're not talking about dogs. If someone told me they were a dog and pissed on my foot I would punch them in the face. No one is asking you to have an argument with a tranny. The question is what is a woman? Apparently from your scientific research you have concluded that if they have a beard they probably are not a woman. But if they use a Gillette anand shave it off then poof it all makes sense to you. Person is woman hear them roar. Lol. So goofy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,207 Posted June 8, 2022 15 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: Silly times. And Gutter is playing the game. If someone comes up to Gutter and says they are a dog and pizz on his foot he will say who am I to judge? You are a dog. And pat them on the head. We have entered thr twilight zone. This sh*t is all new to him but he happily drinks the koolaid to fit into his circle of leftwing friends and then takes offense when other people say they don't want any. This is the new vogue way of thinking in New Jersey. It's easier to be fooled than to be convinced that you were fooled. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,831 Posted June 8, 2022 2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: listen2me is gonna be the gender police and demand to see the d1ck or gash of every person he sees. I dont really care what people want to pretend to be. But I do know the difference between a man and a woman. And men shouldn't be able to play women's sports. Seems fair and logical. If you want to hack your junk off and call yourself Sue, you are just ineligible for sports. Well sports with the gender you are pretending to be. Big whoop. Why cater to what Dems call such a small % of people? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted June 8, 2022 1 minute ago, listen2me 23 said: I dont really care what people want to pretend to be. But I do know the difference between a man and a woman. And men shouldn't be able to play women's sports. Seems fair and logical. If you want to hack your junk off and call yourself Sue, you are just ineligible for sports. Well sports with the gender you are pretending to be. Big whoop. Why cater to what Dems call such a small % of people? The sports thing is rough. I watched that video of that swimmer that edjr posted, that's not fair. He can be a chick, but he should keep swimming vs the dudes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,171 Posted June 8, 2022 26 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: We're not talking about dogs. If someone told me they were a dog and pissed on my foot I would punch them in the face. muzzle Corrected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,831 Posted June 8, 2022 4 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: The sports thing is rough. I watched that video of that swimmer that edjr posted, that's not fair. He can be a chick, but he should keep swimming vs the dudes. Yet some people let these people play the game. You say if some person comes up to you and thry make an attempt at looking like a woman then fine no problem who are you to judge. (As long as they dont have a beard) So if guys who dress up as a woman on Halloween, do they get a 1 day pass from you on going into thr women's bathrooms? (As long as they shaved their beard of course). They follow your wife or daughter into the Macy's bathroom thats cool? Who are you to judge right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,001 Posted June 8, 2022 40 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Sorry I didn't feel like playing around with you last night, but I have some time this morning. I would say a woman is any adult that says they are. If a person comes up to me and tells me they are a woman, and they look like a traditional woman, then who am I to argue? Why should I perform an exam to see if they fit my definition of what a woman is. And vice versa, if some dude with a beard told me he was a woman, I'd laugh, roll my eyes, and walk away. Why should I argue with the dude that he's not a woman. So in the end, call yourself whatever you want, I really don't care. I'm not about pushing my beliefs on other people. But when they want to use the girls room they are pushing their beliefs on others. But that’s ok with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites