10 year old rape victim that couldn't get an abortion in Ohio. FAKE STORY? Maybe?

[nobody 2,687]

6 minutes ago, Cloaca du jour said:

I can play the tweet game.

 

This thing gets weirder and weirder.  

 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,486]

The rapist was first reported to be a 17 year old by the abortionist. She had no way of knowing, but someone told her that. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,356]

2 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Actually doing some more reading it’s not immediately clear if the exemption (medical, as Ohio’s law has no exception for rape or incest) would have actually applied here, at least not without a potential legal battle.  It only applies in “emergencies,” and it could be argued that it wouldn’t be an “emergency” until later in the pregnancy

 

So it certainly makes sense to travel a couple hours where there’s no chance of a legal battle.

the attorney general, said she could have, but some tweeter says otherwise

 

[TimHauck 2,905]

6 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

the attorney general, said she could have, but some tweeter says otherwise

 

You mean this guy?  

20 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’ll take my L. But it’s a sad commentary when the Attorney General of a state doesn't know the laws of his state. My fault for listening to him I guess. 

I guess the girl should’ve just taken his word for it?  The law as written is very vague.  @Mike Honcho called this out earlier.  It could certainly be argued by a crazy pro-life DA that this was not an “emergency” (they’d probably lose, but could tie it up in court).

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

Thought this was germane to the discussion at hand in here. Some will like it, some will hate it, some will be indifferent:

 

https://www.mediaite.com/opinion/ohio-rape-victim-saga-shows-pundits-and-politicians-shouldnt-launch-witch-hunts-before-figuring-out-if-witchery-is-even-afoot/

[Hardcore troubadour 15,486]

The sort of reminds me of the whole Obama  birth certificate nonsense. Obama could have put it to rest early, but he was getting a political advantage by letting it linger out there. Then when it was time he revealed his BC.  Same type of thing happened here. Leave it out there, get the story in the air, and then tell the whole truth. It was kept blurry on purpose. 

[TimHauck 2,905]

16 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The sort of reminds me of the whole Obama  birth certificate nonsense. Obama could have put it to rest early, but he was getting a political advantage by letting it linger out there. Then when it was time he revealed his BC.  Same type of thing happened here. Leave it out there, get the story in the air, and then tell the whole truth. It was kept blurry on purpose. 

Or maybe it was “kept blurry” to protect the identify of a 10 year old rape victim?  You’re sick.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,486]

10 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Or maybe it was “kept blurry” to protect the identify of a 10 year old rape victim?  You’re sick.

Then it should never have been out there in the first place. How was any of this protecting the victim? Her mother was interviewed. Nice try Liar. 

[TimHauck 2,905]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Then it should never have been out there in the first place. How was any of this protecting the victim? Her mother was interviewed. Nice try Liar. 

Yeah her mother was interviewed after everyone was demanding to know more details about it.  But I do agree that the doc probably should have never said anything.

[TimHauck 2,905]

And when her “mother was interviewed” she hid her face and basically denied anything happened, despite a confession from the rapist…

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

35 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Then it should never have been out there in the first place. How was any of this protecting the victim? Her mother was interviewed. Nice try Liar. 

So the media oversteps here like crazy and we blame the mother and other people?

 

Cool. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,486]

5 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

So the media oversteps here like crazy and we blame the mother and other people?

 

Cool. 

No dumbass. I didn’t say that. I pointed out she was interviewed, the kids privacy was obviously not a concern.  Why do you lie so much? 

[TimHauck 2,905]

25 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

No dumbass. I didn’t say that. I pointed out she was interviewed, the kids privacy was obviously not a concern.  

Lol so why did she hide her face?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,486]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Lol so why did she hide her face?

I’m not taking about her concern. Is she the one that went to the media? No, some democrat  doctor did. Are you stupid or is your HTDS blinding you again? 

[TimHauck 2,905]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I’m not taking about her concern. Is she the one that went to the media? No, some democrat  doctor did. Are you stupid or is your HTDS blinding you again? 

I said I agreed the doctor should have never said anything.  But technically even after that her privacy was being protected until all the right wingers started claiming the story was fake.

[MDC 7,471]

Let’s focus on the real victims of this story about a 10 year old rape victim.

Low self control Republicans.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,486]

7 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I said I agreed the doctor should have never said anything.  But technically even after that her privacy was being protected until all the right wingers started claiming the story was fake.

It appeared it was because they were hiding facts. Once all the facts were presented no one was saying that. It was kept opaque on purpose. 

[TimHauck 2,905]

43 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

It appeared it was because they were hiding facts. Once all the facts were presented no one was saying that. It was kept opaque on purpose. 

What was the advantage of “keeping it opaque?”

[Hardcore troubadour 15,486]

Just now, TimHauck said:

What was the advantage of “keeping it opaque?”

What was the disadvantage of telling the whole story? 

[TimHauck 2,905]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

What was the disadvantage of telling the whole story? 

Protecting the privacy of the victim.  It’s like deja vu

[Hardcore troubadour 15,486]

5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Protecting the privacy of the victim.  It’s like deja vu

Then why did they go to the media in the first place? To protect the child? No, to get political leverage out of the tragedy.  Do you think this has never happened before? And why is the doctor possibly in trouble for violating HIPPA? 

[nobody 2,687]

Classic Tim making the subject about some ancillary detail.  

The story is out.  It had some alarming inconsistencies.  That's the only reason anyone is looking at details.  

[nobody 2,687]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Then why did they go to the media in the first place? To protect the child? No, to get political leverage out of the tragedy.  

Preach.  The only reason anyone followed up on this was the fact check didn't add up because it appeared somehow there was no investigation into a 10 year old being pregnant.

[MDC 7,471]

15 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

What was the advantage of “keeping it opaque?”

To give the Ohio Governor and AG and other low self control Republicans a 5-day window to make complete ass clowns out of themselves. 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,486]

7 minutes ago, nobody said:

Preach.  The only reason anyone followed up on this was the fact check didn't add up because it appeared somehow there was no investigation into a 10 year old being pregnant.

When you’re told a child was raped weeks ago and there is no talk of a suspect never mind an arrest it’s not the normal circumstance. If it were a stranger that did this the public would be alerted. They kept it murky on purpose. 

[MDC 7,471]

11 minutes ago, nobody said:

Classic Tim making the subject about some ancillary detail.  

Like making the subject about a potential HIPAA violation vs the fact that a 10 year old rape victim may have had to leave the state to get an abortion?

[nobody 2,687]

Just now, MDC said:

Like making the subject about a potential HIPAA violation vs the fact that a 10 year old rape victim may have had to leave the state to get an abortion?

Did anyone figure out if she even had to leave the state?  Did they even care that they needed to drive out of state?

Also, this is the exact same tactic the blue team used to rile up people for BLM.  Oooh 1 guy got killed by a cop.  Let's pretend that's wide spread and unite all the suckers.  Meanwhile 9 unarmed black guys are killed each year by cops.  When you have a shìtty argument, you have to focus on the anecdotal.

And I'm very much against overturning RvW.  

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,124]

16 minutes ago, nobody said:

Did anyone figure out if she even had to leave the state?  Did they even care that they needed to drive out of state?

Also, this is the exact same tactic the blue team used to rile up people for BLM.  Oooh 1 guy got killed by a cop.  Let's pretend that's wide spread and unite all the suckers.  Meanwhile 9 unarmed black guys are killed each year by cops.  When you have a shìtty argument, you have to focus on the anecdotal.

And I'm very much against overturning RvW.  

9 unarmed black men and like 100 white dudes - but you never here anything about them. 

[MDC 7,471]

20 minutes ago, nobody said:

Did anyone figure out if she even had to leave the state?  Did they even care that they needed to drive out of state?

I dug around for 15-20 minutes. It looks like OH has several overlapping abortion laws and at least one has no exception for rape after 6 weeks. So yeah it seems they had to leave the state.

No idea whether the 10 y/o girl enjoyed going for a drive.  

[craftsman 1,045]

18 minutes ago, nobody said:

Did anyone figure out if she even had to leave the state?  Did they even care that they needed to drive out of state?

Also, this is the exact same tactic the blue team used to rile up people for BLM.  Oooh 1 guy got killed by a cop.  Let's pretend that's wide spread and unite all the suckers.  Meanwhile 9 unarmed black guys are killed each year by cops.  When you have a shìtty argument, you have to focus on the anecdotal.

And I'm very much against overturning RvW.  

A few years back it was like 11, and all but 2 or 3 were justified in that the they were resisting arrest and struggling for the cops weapons or the like.

The 2 or 3 that were determined to be bad shoots, the cops were held accountable.

That's called justice.

[TimHauck 2,905]

6 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Then why did they go to the media in the first place? To protect the child? No, to get political leverage out of the tragedy.  Do you think this has never happened before? And why is the doctor possibly in trouble for violating HIPPA? 

Yeah like I said, she probably shouldn’t have said anything, but saying “I performed an abortion on a 10 year old rape victim from Ohio” isn’t giving out much information.   Isn’t the whole point that it at least hasn’t happened since before Roe v Wade?

The doctor is not in trouble btw, this has been confirmed by her employer - https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/indiana-doctor-who-shared-10-year-old-s-abortion-story-did-not-violate-hipaa-officials-say/ar-AAZCpPX?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=8c4b7779e235411dabb84157b9c67a11

[TimHauck 2,905]

6 hours ago, nobody said:

Classic Tim making the subject about some ancillary detail.  

The story is out.  It had some alarming inconsistencies.  That's the only reason anyone is looking at details.  

I don’t even know what “ancillary detail” you’re talking about.   That I said the likely reason there wasn’t much information originally was to protect the privacy of the victim?  HT was the one making it about being “intentionally opaque” for some unknown reason which he still hasn’t explained, I was giving a logical explanation as to why it may have been.

The original story didn’t really have inconsistencies.  It just didn’t have details. There were timely reports (child services report to Columbus PD on 6/22, suspect was named by victim on 7/6 - https://www.dispatch.com/story/news/crime/2022/07/15/what-do-we-know-gerson-fuentes-suspect-rape-10-year-old/10059291002/

But I guess the AG just wasn’t aware of these facts originally.

 

6 hours ago, nobody said:

Preach.  The only reason anyone followed up on this was the fact check didn't add up because it appeared somehow there was no investigation into a 10 year old being pregnant.

[TimHauck 2,905]

6 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

They kept it murky on purpose. 

Why though?

[TimHauck 2,905]

6 hours ago, nobody said:

Did anyone figure out if she even had to leave the state?  Did they even care that they needed to drive out of state?

 

As has been discussed, she “should” have been able to have it done in Ohio, but the law as written is very vague and this could have been interpreted as not being an “emergency” which is what the exception is for.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,486]

Disgusting what the left does. 

[TimHauck 2,905]

9 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Disgusting what the left does. 

Why were they being “intentionally opaque”?

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

10 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Disgusting what the left does. 

The right was pretty disgusting here too.

Are you just trying to ignore that?

[nobody 2,687]

10 year old needs an abortion.  10 year old gets an abortion.  The left jumps on the case to try and use it for politics.  Next to the rape, that is the worst part of the whole story.  Now all the centrists are wondering why anyone looked into it.  So I guess people aren't supposed to know why they're to be mad at the government.  It's only important that everyone be mad at the government.

[TimHauck 2,905]

5 minutes ago, nobody said:

10 year old needs an abortion.  10 year old gets an abortion.  The left jumps on the case to try and use it for politics.  Next to the rape, that is the worst part of the whole story.  Now all the centrists are wondering why anyone looked into it.  So I guess people aren't supposed to know why they're to be mad at the government.  It's only important that everyone be mad at the government.

It’s cute that you think only the left was “using it for politics.”

Of course they were, but it turns out it was a true story.  It shows the extremism of some of the new laws post Roe being overturned.

Also cute that you think the right was purely “looking into it.”  Nothing wrong with doing that if that’s all it was, but after like 2 days of “research” the right didn’t hesitate to call it “more lies from the left!!” etc.  They were most certainly “using it for politics” as well

[TBayXXXVII 2,552]

On 7/17/2022 at 9:32 AM, Sean Mooney said:

Thought this was germane to the discussion at hand in here. Some will like it, some will hate it, some will be indifferent:

 

https://www.mediaite.com/opinion/ohio-rape-victim-saga-shows-pundits-and-politicians-shouldnt-launch-witch-hunts-before-figuring-out-if-witchery-is-even-afoot/

Libturds say what they want to say.  It's best to leave these morons to their own devices.