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28 minutes ago, Masshole said:

OK, since you seem to know so much more about the case than me - maybe you can educate me.    I've tried to look into it and I was a bit surprised to see how hard it was to find the actual evidence that people were harassing parents, what actually happened, and that it was clear they were doing so as AJ listener/fans.     But you guys are so certain of the things you say about the case - maybe you can point me to where I can see that?     You keep saying "did you read the article?" - I did.   I didn't see where the articles presented any actual evidence of the incidents or direct linkage to AJ. 

Here's what I have found that can be backed up.  Feel free to poke holes in anything I have wrong:

  • 2 parents of 1 child and another of a different child have taken AJ to court over this
  • I read there were other parents and other cases but I haven't seen any actual add'l cases referenced that would corroborate that
  • I couldn't find any info about any investigations into the harassment incidents.  I found that odd because I would have thought there would have been significant investigations
  • The only "verification" I can find that the incidents happened was that the parents testified that they happened
  • The "guns fired at their house" incident was one of the parents in the lawsuit said they heard gunfire and that they then heard someone say AJ's name and "Infowars".  I couldn't find anything that said the PD found bullet casings, holes, etc.  Or that there were any other witness who would corroborate that they heard gunfire
  • I couldn't find anywhere where you could see or hear any of the supposed messages that were sent to the parents.   I know phone calls don't get recorded.   
  • While often repeated, especially here, I haven't seen any actual evidence that Jones said that SH "didn't happen"
  • It's been said that AJ doxxed the parents and published their info.   I can't say that didn't happen, I just couldn't find any evidence that it did
  • AJ did say that he thought SH could be a false flag operation to drive gun control measures.   That is where the parents as "crisis actors" thing came from
  • AJ lost his first case because he didn't show up for it and defaulted.        

The disconnect here isn't surprising.   I am skeptical of everything I hear and see - especially if it is coming from our gov't and/or is something that the MSM seems to be lining up behind.   I also question the consistency of the application of defamation cases.    You take gov't and/or MSM lining up behind something as proof that it happened or of their version of what happened.   We couldn't be further apart in that regard.    

AJ is going to pay a lot of fines and I am OK with that.   If you are going to blow gas about an incident where many children were killed - you better have some solid evidence/facts to back that up.  Even then you should probably shut up for a while anyway.   But I think that is more of a "good taste" or "class" type argument - not a legal argument.  And AJ cooked himself anyway when his own communications showed he really didn't believe that stuff anyway. 

If they could find someone who would admit to it or specific provable evidence that someone harassed these parents and they did that at least in part because of what AJ said - then that's a stronger legal case.    But again, does that mean the cop who stopped the girl from stabbing another girl can sue Lebron James for posting his picture to millions of his followers and saying "you're next"?    I struggle with the intellectual consistency that allows that to happen unchecked but wants AJ drawn and quartered for this.       

Is it so outlandish to suppose that the SH parents, grieving and anguished, needed a bad guy to direct their hate and emotions towards?   And with Adam Lanza dead, AJ made himself a convenient target?    Would it be beyond parents who are emotional and angry to push their stories beyond what really happened to ensure that they "get" that bad guy? 

And for the obligatory addendum that seems to be required here:  I don't listen to Infowars, never have.  I don't follow AJ in any way.   I have only heard him once or twice when he did Tim Pool or Joe Rogan's podcasts.   He was energetic and opinionated but I never had any desire to follow him more.    I know it's hard for you to understand that someone could question what is happening while not being a fan of the person that it is happening to.        

Good post. I'm not going to throw myself down a rabbit hole to answer your questions, but when it comes to you wondering about corroborating evidence,  I would trust that the things you're curious about have been presented in court. Our judicial system is far from perfect but I feel like they get it right more often than not.

I actually followed Alex Jones in the mid 2000s, and generally thought he was pretty compelling. Early in his career he did some really interesting investigative reporting on subjects like the Bilderberg group, Bohemian Grove, and some other low-hanging conspiracy tales. But at some point he went from someone trying to expose the shadowy individuals that were trying to control things behind the scenes and went full right-wing huckster wack job. These charges he's facing pretty obviously show he's a societal parasite. 

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Seems like everybody here thinks this one $4 million dollar judgment is the end of it. That's ONE set of parents. And, as has been pointed out, doesn't even include punitive damages.

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1 minute ago, wiffleball said:

Seems like everybody here thinks this one $4 million dollar judgment is the end of it. That's ONE set of parents. And, as has been pointed out, doesn't even include punitive damages.

Look up one post. 

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12 hours ago, Horseman said:

You sure about that? 4 million out of requested 150 from a guy who pulls in 50 million a year. Thats equivalent of a speeding ticket. Hell that dig on Epstein and the Clinton's was worth 4 mill.  Here is what Jones had to say. 

 

$45m in punitive damages.

Oofff! :D 

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1 minute ago, Mike Honcho said:

This thread is going to drop off the front page faster than a lead balloon. 

Well, the case is over and the settlement decided so... yeah... but I suspect it has a few more days to digest and unwind.

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26 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

This thread is going to drop off the front page faster than a lead balloon. 

A few Geeks beclowned themselves in this one.

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I’m not sure what’s better, Jones needing to pay up or Horseman actually trying to claim that “I could care less” is proper grammar.  Lol what idiots they both are

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Soros isn’t a boogeyman, no matter how many times Libtards say he is. He spends all that money for results, and he gets them. 

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i opened the thread thinking it was a soccer player.... I think I was just mixing Alexi Lalas, Coby Jones, Alex Morgan into one person because.... soccer.....

 

should I know who this guy is?

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22 hours ago, TimHauck said:

I’m not sure what’s better, Jones needing to pay up or Horseman actually trying to claim that “I could care less” is proper grammar.  Lol what idiots they both are

Oh it's Horseman clowning himself. 

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On 8/5/2022 at 11:13 PM, Mike Honcho said:

This thread is going to drop off the front page faster than a lead balloon. 

 

On 8/5/2022 at 11:40 PM, MDC said:

A few Geeks beclowned themselves in this one.

This is for you two.   For some strange reason I thought of you when I saw it. . .

 

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Why is it that the judges in the cases involving right wing people always have something like this going on in their background?    Just coincidence. . . 

 

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40 minutes ago, Masshole said:

 

This is for you two.   For some strange reason I thought of you when I saw it. . .

 

Is there a meme  about interests aligning with defamation case losers who attack the grieving parents of a horrible massacre? 

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48 minutes ago, Masshole said:

 

This is for you two.   For some strange reason I thought of you when I saw it. . .

 

 And they think everyone else is indoctrinated. Perfect. 

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1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

 And they think everyone else is indoctrinated. Perfect. 

In a thread about Alex Jones and his deranged followers.   🤣

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Turns out, they hired a forensic accountant to determine that this guy, as soon as he saw the case was going badly, started shoveling tens of thousands of dollars into an offshore shell account.

This guy is almost cartoonishly evil.

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1 hour ago, Mike Honcho said:

In a thread about Alex Jones and his deranged followers.   🤣

Go ahead and put Sandy hook in the search bar and see my thoughts on the matter. I was slamming Jones for it way before you lemmings were, years ago. You support the new thing. Always.  

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15 hours ago, WhiteWonder said:

Wait, this tard thinks the sandy hook shootings were a hoax? :lol:

Not anymore but it took him a few years and/or a lawsuit to get there. It's all quite understandable, you see. He was under a temporary psychosis when he was thinking they were all crisis actors faking their deaths in order to get assault rifles banned. 

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51 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Not anymore but it took him a few years and/or a lawsuit to get there. It's all quite understandable, you see. He was under a temporary psychosis when he was thinking they were all crisis actors faking their deaths in order to get assault rifles banned. 

I dated a girl who dated the shooter years before it happened. 😬

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3 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said:

I dated a girl who dated the shooter years before it happened. 😬

B*******. That little freak never dated anything.

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