wiffleball 4,790 Posted October 13, 2022 He is such an odious creature. Freaking kills me that a guy like Don Imus was essentially crucified and banished for one lame joke for which he would apologize repeatedly, but Alex Jones is still spouting his vicious irresponsible ignorance to this day. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,580 Posted October 13, 2022 3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: He did it for ratings. He’s a shock jock. But this did actual damage to people. They had to defend themselves against what this scumbag had to say. He claimed their children weren’t really dead. Think about that. Living with that and then having it portrayed that you’re lying about your own kids death. Fock him. Thank you for being the voice of reason. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted October 13, 2022 7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: He did it for ratings. He’s a shock jock. But this did actual damage to people. They had to defend themselves against what this scumbag had to say. He claimed their children weren’t really dead. Think about that. Living with that and then having it portrayed that you’re lying about your own kids death. Fock him. Can’t think of much worse. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted October 13, 2022 10 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: He did it for ratings. He’s a shock jock. But this did actual damage to people. They had to defend themselves against what this scumbag had to say. He claimed their children weren’t really dead. Think about that. Living with that and then having it portrayed that you’re lying about your own kids death. Fock him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,412 Posted October 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: He did it for ratings. He’s a shock jock. But this did actual damage to people. They had to defend themselves against what this scumbag had to say. He claimed their children weren’t really dead. Think about that. Living with that and then having it portrayed that you’re lying about your own kids death. Fock him. "For ratings"? "Shock Jock?".......not in the least so many of you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to him at least you've each other Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,427 Posted October 13, 2022 Just now, Big Guy said: "For ratings"? "Shock Jock?".......not in the least so many of you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to him at least you've each other Yeah, I don’t care if he told 99 truths and just this lie. This lie wipes anything he would have to say out. Build 100 bridges, suck one cack. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted October 13, 2022 20 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Yeah, I don’t care if he told 99 truths and just this lie. This lie wipes anything he would have to say out. Build 100 bridges, suck one cack. The problem is, this guy hasn't told 99 truths his entire life combined. The amount of crap that this guy pulls out of somebody's ass is just ridiculous. And the fact that he and his employers make millions of dollars doing so is reason enough for this kind of a judgement. His divorce trial of all things was one of the most telling. Because he was basically put in a situation of saying yes it's all b*******. I just b******* for money. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted October 13, 2022 27 minutes ago, Big Guy said: "For ratings"? "Shock Jock?".......not in the least so many of you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to him at least you've each other Do you watch and listen to a lot of Alex Jones? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted October 13, 2022 This ought to help. https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/alex-jones-custody-trial-10-wtf-moments-108404/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted October 13, 2022 15 minutes ago, wiffleball said: This ought to help. https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-news/alex-jones-custody-trial-10-wtf-moments-108404/ The man is a psychopath. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,418 Posted October 13, 2022 Alex Jones sent kiddie porn to lawyers of the parents who sued him. He says it was planted. I guess we take him at his word, but what a total clown show. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,412 Posted October 13, 2022 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Yeah, I don’t care if he told 99 truths and just this lie. This lie wipes anything he would have to say out. Build 100 bridges, suck one cack. so you prefer 99 lies and 1 truth like the Demtards? That 1 truth wipes out anything they didn't say. Tear down 100 bridges, suck 2 cack Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted October 14, 2022 8 hours ago, Big Guy said: "For ratings"? "Shock Jock?".......not in the least so many of you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to him at least you've each other Parents lost their children....children in many cases who had not hit double digits in their lives yet. And while those parents were grieving the worst possible thing that could have happened some fat jerkoff blowhard was on his show saying "No one really died" "It was a false flag" "These people are actors" leading to people harassing these parents who were already on an emotional edge because of their kid's extremely untimely death. And you want to defend him? You are so in the wrong here that hell I believe even HT and I are on the same side on it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
OldMaid 2,130 Posted October 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: Parents lost their children....children in many cases who had not hit double digits in their lives yet. And while those parents were grieving the worst possible thing that could have happened some fat jerkoff blowhard was on his show saying "No one really died" "It was a false flag" "These people are actors" leading to people harassing these parents who were already on an emotional edge because of their kid's extremely untimely death. And you want to defend him? You are so in the wrong here that hell I believe even HT and I are on the same side on it. He believes the whole enchilada. Little Rusty aka Big Guy is our resident conspiracy theorist. He’s never met one he didn’t believe. He used to post more normal stuff but since Trump he’s been permanently lost to the dark side. He was actually an alright guy if you could look past some of his crazy theories. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted October 14, 2022 10 hours ago, Big Guy said: "For ratings"? "Shock Jock?".......not in the least so many of you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to him at least you've each other If you know where to find his videos, maybe you can provide a link to him when he's at his best and on top of his game so folks can get a taste of him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted October 14, 2022 4 hours ago, Voltaire said: If you know where to find his videos, maybe you can provide a link to him when he's at his best and on top of his game so folks can get a taste of him. This is the only time I've seen him at the top of his game and be honest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masshole 642 Posted October 14, 2022 Pretty good piece that summarizes my feelings about AJ and this case. I am struggling to reconcile the pitch forks and torches level of agitation about him and this case with the actuals of the case. And that is why, even though I am not an AJ fan and don't listen to him, this whole thing had my BS detector pinging hard (that one's for you Mooney). Lost in all of the turbulence and rending of garments over this is that the defamation case against Jones is/was pretty weak. But despite that it's going to be a record (or near record?) judgement against him? I know many disagree with me on this, but to me that is the surest sign that there is more going on here than just the case itself. Love Him or Hate Him, the War Against Alex Jones Is a War Against Us All - Revolver News Also this: 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted October 14, 2022 Masshole, You're defending a conspiracy theorist by believing another conspiracy theory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted October 14, 2022 33 minutes ago, Masshole said: Pretty good piece that summarizes my feelings about AJ and this case. I am struggling to reconcile the pitch forks and torches level of agitation about him and this case with the actuals of the case. And that is why, even though I am not an AJ fan and don't listen to him, this whole thing had my BS detector pinging hard (that one's for you Mooney). Lost in all of the turbulence and rending of garments over this is that the defamation case against Jones is/was pretty weak. But despite that it's going to be a record (or near record?) judgement against him? I know many disagree with me on this, but to me that is the surest sign that there is more going on here than just the case itself. Love Him or Hate Him, the War Against Alex Jones Is a War Against Us All - Revolver News Also this: I cannot come up with a worse target to go full retard on than the families of freshly killed first graders. Sandy Hook kids and families are the royal flush of sympathy victims, there is no higher possibility out there, even when stretching my imagination to its full limits. If any one human being on the planet deserves banning from social media, it'd be Jones. The problem arose soon after that decision to ban him, once they stopped operating like the phone company anymore, they began gleefully instituted wave after wave of purges of ever more mainstream voices on the right. So Jones is looking like the canary in the coal mine again, and Cernovich has a valid point to an extent, but it's not the FBI suing Jones, it's the families with dead kids. Additionally, Cernovich is not doing himself any favors by using the Vegas shooting as an example. He'd have better grounds using Kyle Rittenhouse, Covington Kids, Russian Collusion, or COVID instead. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masshole 642 Posted October 14, 2022 47 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: Masshole, You're defending a conspiracy theorist by believing another conspiracy theory. My belief that we have entered a completely new and uncharted territory with the internet and social media connecting people in ways never seen before and that we have no idea how this will all work out but it is certain that you can get a mob whipped up into a frenzy without actually having to have that mob standing in front of you when you do it. And that while the general population is relatively unaware of this, governments, corporations, and individual actors are very aware of it and many of them are very cynically manipulating it for personal and political gain. Not really all that different than what has gone on for most of human history but with the internet and social media it has been force multiplied and broadcast across a much larger spectrum and to much larger groups. If you want to call that a "conspiracy theory", knock yourself out. It matters not to me. You could call it "Sally" for all I care. Labels don't affect my beliefs/opinions. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted October 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Masshole said: My belief that we have entered a completely new and uncharted territory with the internet and social media connecting people in ways never seen before and that we have no idea how this will all work out but it is certain that you can get a mob whipped up into a frenzy without actually having to have that mob standing in front of you when you do it. And that while the general population is relatively unaware of this, governments, corporations, and individual actors are very aware of it and many of them are very cynically manipulating it for personal and political gain. Not really all that different than what has gone on for most of human history but with the internet and social media it has been force multiplied and broadcast across a much larger spectrum and to much larger groups. If you want to call that a "conspiracy theory", knock yourself out. It matters not to me. You could call it "Sally" for all I care. Labels don't affect my beliefs/opinions. What you're describing is absolutely real, but what you fail to see is that you're the victim of it too. You think you're enlightened but you're just another pawn in the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted October 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Masshole said: Pretty good piece that summarizes my feelings about AJ and this case. I am struggling to reconcile the pitch forks and torches level of agitation about him and this case with the actuals of the case. And that is why, even though I am not an AJ fan and don't listen to him, this whole thing had my BS detector pinging hard (that one's for you Mooney). Lost in all of the turbulence and rending of garments over this is that the defamation case against Jones is/was pretty weak. But despite that it's going to be a record (or near record?) judgement against him? I know many disagree with me on this, but to me that is the surest sign that there is more going on here than just the case itself. Love Him or Hate Him, the War Against Alex Jones Is a War Against Us All - Revolver News Also this: Again- Alex Jones is not the hill to die on here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masshole 642 Posted October 14, 2022 12 minutes ago, Voltaire said: I cannot come up with a worse target to go full retard on than the families of freshly killed first graders. Sandy Hook kids and families are the royal flush of sympathy victims, there is no higher possibility out there, even when stretching my imagination to its full limits. If any one human being on the planet deserves banning from social media, it'd be Jones. The problem arose soon after that decision to ban him, once they stopped operating like the phone company anymore, they began gleefully instituted wave after wave of purges of ever more mainstream voices on the right. So Jones is looking like the canary in the coal mine again, and Cernovich has a valid point to an extent, but it's not the FBI suing Jones, it's the families with dead kids. Additionally, Cernovich is not doing himself any favors by using the Vegas shooting as an example. He'd have better grounds using Kyle Rittenhouse, Covington Kids, Russian Collusion, or COVID instead. I think you are missing part of my point. The picture that's been painted is that AJ was on his show all day longs for months on end screaming that SH didn't happen and telling his listeners to go get the fake parents of the fake victims. I've begged for help on finding this and have been willing to read/listen to all examples of what AJ said about SH and something that ties him directly to harassment of the parents. I've tried to research it and what I've found has been pretty thin, as have been the few examples other posters provided. And while I disagree with the application of it to the SH incident, I don't really have a problem with AJ's contention that our gov't isn't beyond cynically manipulating public tragedies to advance an agenda. Remember, SH happened at a time where the Obama admin was actively trying to push forward 2A restrictions. Is it that crazy to think they would use SH to push that agenda? I don't think so. As you are probably aware, I have a pretty low view of the content of the character of our gov't. I do think AJ crossed the line when he introduced the concepts of crisis actors and other stuff like that. And he should be accountable for that. But lost in all the din about this is that he did apologize to the parents and acknowledge that he had gone too far and he did so long before this case came up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted October 14, 2022 4 minutes ago, Masshole said: Is it that crazy to think they would use SH to push that agenda? yes Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted October 14, 2022 6 minutes ago, Masshole said: I think you are missing part of my point. The picture that's been painted is that AJ was on his show all day longs for months on end screaming that SH didn't happen and telling his listeners to go get the fake parents of the fake victims. I've begged for help on finding this and have been willing to read/listen to all examples of what AJ said about SH and something that ties him directly to harassment of the parents. I've tried to research it and what I've found has been pretty thin, as have been the few examples other posters provided. And while I disagree with the application of it to the SH incident, I don't really have a problem with AJ's contention that our gov't isn't beyond cynically manipulating public tragedies to advance an agenda. Remember, SH happened at a time where the Obama admin was actively trying to push forward 2A restrictions. Is it that crazy to think they would use SH to push that agenda? I don't think so. As you are probably aware, I have a pretty low view of the content of the character of our gov't. I do think AJ crossed the line when he introduced the concepts of crisis actors and other stuff like that. And he should be accountable for that. But lost in all the din about this is that he did apologize to the parents and acknowledge that he had gone too far and he did so long before this case came up. Yes it is crazy. And even if he did apologize you can't put the toothpaste back in the tube once it is out. It was already too far down the road. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,412 Posted October 14, 2022 7 hours ago, Voltaire said: If you know where to find his videos, maybe you can provide a link to him when he's at his best and on top of his game so folks can get a taste of him. I don't really go there, not sure if there are videos but www.infowars.com I listen from time to time on https://www.talkstreamlive.com/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,412 Posted October 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Masshole said: Pretty good piece that summarizes my feelings about AJ and this case. I am struggling to reconcile the pitch forks and torches level of agitation about him and this case with the actuals of the case. And that is why, even though I am not an AJ fan and don't listen to him, this whole thing had my BS detector pinging hard (that one's for you Mooney). Lost in all of the turbulence and rending of garments over this is that the defamation case against Jones is/was pretty weak. But despite that it's going to be a record (or near record?) judgement against him? I know many disagree with me on this, but to me that is the surest sign that there is more going on here than just the case itself. Love Him or Hate Him, the War Against Alex Jones Is a War Against Us All - Revolver News Also this: yes, that's what this is all about........shutting down free speech, and shutting him down because he is the "tip of the spear" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted October 14, 2022 Apparently all the videos were removed, but here is a list of quotes: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/22/us/politics/heres-what-jones-has-said-about-sandy-hook.html I don't know how often he said this stuff, but it was enough to lead some of his followers to death threats against the parents. For that he should be held responsible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted October 14, 2022 1 minute ago, Big Guy said: yes, that's what this is all about........shutting down free speech, and shutting him down because he is the "tip of the spear" We still have free speech, this is not an attack on free speech. How can you not get that? You can start a podcast today and continue to say that Sandy Hook was faked. No one is stopping you. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted October 14, 2022 55 minutes ago, Masshole said: I think you are missing part of my point. The picture that's been painted is that AJ was on his show all day longs for months on end screaming that SH didn't happen and telling his listeners to go get the fake parents of the fake victims. I've begged for help on finding this and have been willing to read/listen to all examples of what AJ said about SH and something that ties him directly to harassment of the parents. I've tried to research it and what I've found has been pretty thin, as have been the few examples other posters provided. And while I disagree with the application of it to the SH incident, I don't really have a problem with AJ's contention that our gov't isn't beyond cynically manipulating public tragedies to advance an agenda. Remember, SH happened at a time where the Obama admin was actively trying to push forward 2A restrictions. Is it that crazy to think they would use SH to push that agenda? I don't think so. As you are probably aware, I have a pretty low view of the content of the character of our gov't. I do think AJ crossed the line when he introduced the concepts of crisis actors and other stuff like that. And he should be accountable for that. But lost in all the din about this is that he did apologize to the parents and acknowledge that he had gone too far and he did so long before this case came up. You’re probably not going to find much of what he said on the matter on the usual sites since he has been banned for many years. I’d check his own website. Did he claim he never said those things at his trial? I didn’t follow it. I was understanding that he claimed to have suffered from a temporary derangement or something along those lines… of course locating a news source that doesn’t despise him is difficult and I put no effort into finding one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,412 Posted October 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: We still have free speech, this is not an attack on free speech. How can you not get that? You can start a podcast today and continue to say that Sandy Hook was faked. No one is stopping you. what rock are you hiding under? and what does free speech mean to you? It's happening all around us, have you not noticed? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,270 Posted October 14, 2022 7 minutes ago, Voltaire said: You’re probably not going to find much of what he said on the matter on the usual sites since he has been banned for many years. I’d check his own website. Did he claim he never said those things at his trial? I didn’t follow it. I was understanding that he claimed to have suffered from a temporary derangement or something along those lines… of course finding a news source that doesn’t despise him is difficult and I put no effort into finding one. Pretty sure he didn't claim anything at trial, cause he didn't show up for them and as such, the plaintiffs won by default.. Believe he only showed up for the damages portion of the trial. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,270 Posted October 14, 2022 3 minutes ago, Big Guy said: what rock are you hiding under? and what does free speech mean to you? It's happening all around us, have you not noticed? He probably lives under the rock that actually understands what the 1st amendment says and doesn't say. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted October 14, 2022 30 minutes ago, Big Guy said: yes, that's what this is all about........shutting down free speech, and shutting him down because he is the "tip of the spear" We still have free speech. And yet again- Alex Jones is not the hill to die on here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted October 14, 2022 A new low for the Geek Club - defending this total piece of garbage 3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Shooter McGavin 618 Posted October 14, 2022 24 minutes ago, Big Guy said: what rock are you hiding under? and what does free speech mean to you? It's happening all around us, have you not noticed? What govt official is stopping you from telling people that sandy hook is faked? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Masshole 642 Posted October 14, 2022 1 hour ago, Shooter McGavin said: Apparently all the videos were removed, but here is a list of quotes: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/22/us/politics/heres-what-jones-has-said-about-sandy-hook.html I don't know how often he said this stuff, but it was enough to lead some of his followers to death threats against the parents. For that he should be held responsible. I'd be interested in reading that. But it's behind a paywall and there is no way I am giving even 1 penny of my money to the NYT. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted October 14, 2022 8 minutes ago, Masshole said: I'd be interested in reading that. But it's behind a paywall and there is no way I am giving even 1 penny of my money to the NYT. Your loss. They have lots of good stuff. Yeah you might be exposed to some horrible lefty opinions that’ll upset your poor snowflake emotions, but there’s also lots of good articles on science and technology, the arts, business, etc. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kutulu 1,676 Posted October 14, 2022 Dude owes me a couple hundred, at least? One focking touchdown in five weeks? Bust 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Guy 1,412 Posted October 14, 2022 58 minutes ago, Shooter McGavin said: What govt official is stopping you from telling people that sandy hook is faked? do you always answer a question with a question? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites