Alex Jones ordered to pay $1 billion

[Voltaire 5,316]

I know the family bakery that sued Oberlein college had their jury award reduced because there was a cap. Is that just an Ohio thing? I don't see how Jones can come up with $1 billion+. 

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[Horseman 2,453]

11 minutes ago, dogcows said:

If Trump’s followers had listened to Fauci instead of Trump, Rogan, and other quacks, probably a few hundred thousand lives could have been saved.

Over 90% of COVID deaths were of unvaccinated people. People who got no vaccine were 97x more likely to die than people who got the shot and the booster.

100 years from now, kids in history class will try to figure out how people in the 2020s could be stupid enough to ignore a broad consensus of the world’s doctors and take health advice from reality TV stars instead. 

You're going to have to do better than that. Trump got vaccinated and regularly told other people to. Trump even got boosted.  

You could point to some things they disagreed on, but, the vaccine isnt one of them. You're clearly getting brainwashed somewhere.  Surely you've heard Trump take full credit for Operation Warpspeed?  

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

40 minutes ago, Horseman said:

It's a sad state of affairs for free speech regardless what you think about Jones.  

Actually, it's a great day for free speech.

A reckless fatclown such as Jones could benefit from a media-law class to understand where the line is between free speech and creating clear, costly legal exposure for himself. Like Clownzo, he got so hopped up by his fan base and money that he thought he could say and do what he wants. 

Nope!

Too many so-called "journalists" and those who disseminate infotainment pander to extremist idiots who can't process two sides and then tune out, dismiss or deflect when it comes to what they don't want to hear.

Today marks a clear, decisive message in regard to that.

Facts. Responsible journalism. 

[Horseman 2,453]

8 minutes ago, craftsman said:

Agreed. Especially when it is so focking obvious. When it's on video of people saying it and the truth comes out that they were completely slanderous. I propose we go after the obvious first like that one high school kid did with CNN and go from there. Not let the government get in the way of it especially when it's politicians being called out. Let local and state courts handle it. DAs are often the problem as well. Need to neuter them of politics. 

Start with Biden & Co. with Rittenhouse.  

[dogcows 1,030]

10 minutes ago, Horseman said:

You're going to have to do better than that. Trump got vaccinated and regularly told other people to. Trump even got boosted.  

You could point to some things they disagreed on, but, the vaccine isnt one of them. You're clearly getting brainwashed somewhere.  Surely you've heard Trump take full credit for Operation Warpspeed?  

You can spin as you wish, but the data don’t lie.

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In October 2021, 25 out of every 100,000 residents of heavily Trump counties died from Covid, more than three times higher than the rate in heavily Biden counties (7.8 per 100,000). October was the fifth consecutive month that the percentage gap between the death rates in Trump counties and Biden counties widened.

By the end of 2021, 91% of Democrats were vaccinated, but only 60% of Republicans.

Trump’s flip-flop to supporting vaccines was too little, too late. He sent the message early on that COVID was not dangerous, calling it a flu, making fun of people wearing masks, and the results are obvious.

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

5 minutes ago, Horseman said:

You're going to have to do better than that. Trump got vaccinated and regularly told other people to. Trump even got boosted.  

You could point to some things they disagreed on, but, the vaccine isnt one of them. You're clearly getting brainwashed somewhere.  Surely you've heard Trump take full credit for Operation Warpspeed?  

He created defiance among his followers by initially downplaying it and saying it would go away. And then his whole dramatic mask removal and being an ass to Fauci, whom MAGAtards still hold to his initial mask opinion and ignored him reversing himself. By the time Clownzo gave lip service to the vaccine, it was too late, and the anti-vax MAGAtard culture had too much momentum and is now a sad cancer in this country. 

At best, Clownzo was an enigma on the matter. He certainly wasn't a firm, reassuring hand when this country needed him to be. Sh!t leadership.

What he really did was pander to his base and those who unconditionally support him. 

[craftsman 1,045]

30 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Start with Biden & Co. with Rittenhouse.  

That's another one. And with him calling border agents acting like slave owners. 

How about every person on The View. Is that the Whoopie show. Never heard more disgusting things said about people that. are just wrong.

Oh that that Maddow chick with the kids in cages bullcrap. Obama built those cages but, but ,but....

And for you liberals, if you got any slander from Fox, bring it out for review.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

4 hours ago, GobbleDog said:

I don't know anything about "Infowars" and I haven't followed the case much. All I know is this guy said he believed the Sandy Hook shooting was faked in order to confiscate America's guns.

Clearly the guy is an idiot, but how is he liable for broadcasting crazy beliefs ?  That's the part where I'm lost. How did his beliefs inflict damage to the parents?  I read some of his followers were harassing the parents, so shouldn't they sue the followers.?.  Unless he instructed them to do that, I don't get it.

well the point is republicans wont defend their own.  the left is free to raid trump's home and take away his passport for a bit.  republicans didnt riot or march.  that gives the left permssion to start taking ALLLLLL the money and livlihood's from anyone not on the left that is a threat.  Alex Jones is just the start.  the left now thinks the repubicans are cowards and so they will probably go after abbott, desantis, rubio, pence, tulsi, rand paul, tucker, etc. and just start taking away everything they have.  the right will NOT fight it.  

this is a takeover. republicans are enemies of the state.  did you not hear biden?  that is an open threat.

[craftsman 1,045]

4 hours ago, GobbleDog said:

I don't know anything about "Infowars" and I haven't followed the case much. All I know is this guy said he believed the Sandy Hook shooting was faked in order to confiscate America's guns.

Clearly the guy is an idiot, but how is he liable for broadcasting crazy beliefs ?  That's the part where I'm lost. How did his beliefs inflict damage to the parents?  I read some of his followers were harassing the parents, so shouldn't they sue the followers.?.  Unless he instructed them to do that, I don't get it.

I can't take a side on this one. I never followed it. But if the left is going after the guy, I bet the guy is not a bad guy.

[dogcows 1,030]

6 minutes ago, craftsman said:

That's another one. And with him calling border agents acting like slave owners. 

How about every person on The View. Is that the Whoopie show. Never heard more disgusting things said about people that. are just wrong.

Oh that that Maddow chick with the kids in cages bullcrap. Biden built those cages but, but ,but....

And for you liberals, if you got any slander from Fox, bring it out for review.

There’s currently a $1.6 Billion lawsuit against Fox for allegedly defaming Dominion Voting Systems.

Project Veritas was recently convicted of fraud and wiretapping and ordered to pay $120,000 to a consulting firm called Democracy Partners.

[dogcows 1,030]

10 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

well the point is republicans wont defend their own.  the left is free to raid trump's home and take away his passport for a bit.  republicans didnt riot or march.  that gives the left permssion to start taking ALLLLLL the money and livlihood's from anyone not on the left that is a threat.  Alex Jones is just the start.  the left now thinks the repubicans are cowards and so they will probably go after abbott, desantis, rubio, pence, tulsi, rand paul, tucker, etc. and just start taking away everything they have.  the right will NOT fight it.  

this is a takeover. republicans are enemies of the state.  did you not hear biden?  that is an open threat.

I’m sorry, Alex Jones is “one of their own”? Does the right really want to claim him as a member? He’s a disgusting turd who victimized parents of little kids who got murdered by a sicko. Do you think that’s what “the right” stands for? This shouldn’t be a left vs right issue.

[craftsman 1,045]

12 minutes ago, dogcows said:

There’s currently a $1.6 Billion lawsuit against Fox for allegedly defaming Dominion Voting Systems.

Project Veritas was recently convicted of fraud and wiretapping and ordered to pay $120,000 to a consulting firm called Democracy Partners.

Great. If they win them, good for them.

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

47 minutes ago, JustinCharge said:

 republicans didnt riot or march. 

If you take out the bloodthirsty, traitorous, Clowzno-whipped mob that attacked the Capitol on Jan. 6.

 

[Pimpadeaux 2,406]

45 minutes ago, craftsman said:

I can't take a side on this one. I never followed it. But if the left is going after the guy, I bet the guy is not a bad guy.

[Horseman 2,453]

10 hours ago, dogcows said:

You can spin as you wish, but the data don’t lie.

By the end of 2021, 91% of Democrats were vaccinated, but only 60% of Republicans.

Trump’s flip-flop to supporting vaccines was too little, too late. He sent the message early on that COVID was not dangerous, calling it a flu, making fun of people wearing masks, and the results are obvious.

  You just flip flopped from Trump being against vaccines to Trump flip flopping on vaccines.  AND holy chit why did you choose Flip Flop Fauci's nickname to describe Trump? !?  You're completely clueless arent you.  

[Horseman 2,453]

10 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

He created defiance among his followers by initially downplaying it and saying it would go away. And then his whole dramatic mask removal and being an ass to Fauci, whom MAGAtards still hold to his initial mask opinion and ignored him reversing himself. By the time Clownzo gave lip service to the vaccine, it was too late, and the anti-vax MAGAtard culture had too much momentum and is now a sad cancer in this country. 

At best, Clownzo was an enigma on the matter. He certainly wasn't a firm, reassuring hand when this country needed him to be. Sh!t leadership.

What he really did was pander to his base and those who unconditionally support him. 

Masks

Were you one of them double maskers?

[Mike Honcho 5,269]

If he does it in installments of 400 bucks a month, he could have it paid down in 208,000 years. 

[IGotWorms 4,058]

Any chance he’ll eat a gun?

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

12 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Any chance he’ll eat a gun?

He seems like the type.

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

15 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

He called the families of the victims crisis actors. He compounded their suffering, and the jury found it met the definition of defamation and slander. 

He admitted he was engaging in conspiracy mongering, a common practice among far-right infotainment sources that pander to their viewers, readers and listeners.

I hope this serves as a lesson to biased media to be fair, balanced and accurate, reducing the volume of sometimes outrageous opinions thrown into the mix.

I will disagree on one thing here.

Alex Jones is not "media." I think we need to differentiate between legitimate media and obnoxious lying opportunistic blowhards. At least with a place like FOX News, CNN, MSNBC, etc there is some semblance of journalistic integrity. Stories may be filtered through their editorial viewpoints but they aren't actively, and purposely, lying. More often than not those places retract, reframe, or outright apologize when they are shown how their stories are wrong. That doesn't prevent them from lawsuits or anything but it does make them accountable. Alex Jones (and people like him) make their money by just saying crazy nonsense into a microphone and people buy into it because they are lemmings looking to lap up something because it provides an explanation to something where there isn't a clear explanation. They aren't accountable to anything because crazy and delusional is their money train. 

I don't feel bad for Jones and people like him should be called out for their garbage- regardless of what side of the political aisle they fall on. 

[TimmySmith 2,782]

15 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

I will disagree on one thing here.

Alex Jones is not "media." I think we need to differentiate between legitimate media and obnoxious lying opportunistic blowhards. At least with a place like FOX News, CNN, MSNBC, etc there is some semblance of journalistic integrity. Stories may be filtered through their editorial viewpoints but they aren't actively, and purposely, lying. More often than not those places retract, reframe, or outright apologize when they are shown how their stories are wrong. That doesn't prevent them from lawsuits or anything but it does make them accountable. Alex Jones (and people like him) make their money by just saying crazy nonsense into a microphone and people buy into it because they are lemmings looking to lap up something because it provides an explanation to something where there isn't a clear explanation. They aren't accountable to anything because crazy and delusional is their money train. 

I don't feel bad for Jones and people like him should be called out for their garbage- regardless of what side of the political aisle they fall on. 

If he's not the media, he can say what he wants, dummy. Placing him in the media was instrumental in the decision. 

[Shooter McGavin 618]

6 minutes ago, TimmySmith said:

If he's not the media, he can say what he wants, dummy. Placing him in the media was instrumental in the decision. 

What does him being "the media" have to do with defamation?

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

1 hour ago, Shooter McGavin said:

What does him being "the media" have to do with defamation?

I just figured it was Timmy wanting to show he was ignorant?

[Big Guy 1,412]

IF you call yourself an American you should watch at least the Intro to this show....

 

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

Yeah nah.....trying to use Alex Jones as a cause here is ignorant

[Big Guy 1,412]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

Yeah nah.....trying to use Alex Jones as a cause here is ignorant

what's ignorant is trusting and believing the Government and mainstream news

[RLLD 4,230]

Yeah, I get what Crowder is doing here. I do get it.  But man, Alex Jones is a really creepy asss guy....

[Shooter McGavin 618]

1 minute ago, Big Guy said:

what's ignorant is trusting and believing the Government and mainstream news

So you believe that sandy hook was a false flag operation?

[Big Guy 1,412]

Just now, Shooter McGavin said:

So you believe that sandy hook was a false flag operation?

I don't answer questions

[Shooter McGavin 618]

1 minute ago, Big Guy said:

I don't answer questions

Why not?

[Hawkeye21 2,399]

8 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Yeah, I get what Crowder is doing here. I do get it.  But man, Alex Jones is a really creepy asss guy....

That's how I feel about it as well.  The guy deserves it.

[OldMaid 2,130]

I’d be happy if I actually thought he end up paying. Scumbags like that always find a way to weasel out of it.

[Big Guy 1,412]

Y'all might want to watch it and learn something instead of of having an opinion based on what you've seen or heard on Entertainment Tonight, Inside Edition, John Oliver, Jimmy Kimmel, Jon Stewart, Bill Maher, MSN etc. lol

This whole trial is an attempt to shut him up about so many things that others aren't telling you.

[Shooter McGavin 618]

Just now, Big Guy said:

Y'all might want to watch it and learn something instead of of having an opinion based on Entertainment Tonight, Inside Edition, John Oliver, Jimmy Kimmel, Jon Stewart, Bill Maher, MSN etc. lol

watch what?

[edjr 6,580]

I am so torn. I really think you should be able to say whatever you want and people should just ignore it if they wish. Sticks and stones.

But this? I dunno man. This is so outlandish to say. He deserves at least each parent of a child that was killed to punch him in the face.

[Big Guy 1,412]

5 minutes ago, edjr said:

I am so torn. I really think you should be able to say whatever you want and people should just ignore it if they wish. Sticks and stones.

But this? I dunno man. This is so outlandish to say. He deserves at least each parent of a child that was killed to punch him in the face.

he had an opinion based on the evidence at the time, no big whoop

all of us have done that

[Shooter McGavin 618]

9 minutes ago, edjr said:

I am so torn. I really think you should be able to say whatever you want and people should just ignore it if they wish. Sticks and stones.

But this? I dunno man. This is so outlandish to say. He deserves at least each parent of a child that was killed to punch him in the face.

He is still able to say whatever he wants.  People also have the right to sue.

[Sean Mooney 1,983]

50 minutes ago, Big Guy said:

what's ignorant is trusting and believing the Government and mainstream news

What's ignorant is trying to hand wave away Alex Jones because "they are trying to silence him."

3 minutes ago, Big Guy said:

he had an opinion based on the evidence at the time, no big whoop

all of us have done that

What evidence pointed to it being a false flag?

[edjr 6,580]

2 minutes ago, Big Guy said:

he had an opinion based on the evidence at the time, no big whoop

all of us have done that

Evidence?

Take your maga glasses off for one second. 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,417]

He did it for ratings. He’s a shock jock. But this did actual damage to people. They had to defend themselves against what this scumbag had to say. He claimed their children weren’t really dead. Think about that. Living with that and then having it portrayed that you’re lying about your own kids death. Fock him.