Ohio toxic train derailment

[TimHauck 2,906]

1 minute ago, squistion said:

Brakes have not been ruled out as contributing to the crash. 

Did you quote the wrong post?

[RogerDodger 798]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

That squis- pigeon guy won’t accept facts for an answer. Is there something up with him? 

He's got mental issues for sure.

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Are we sure the better brakes couldn’t have still helped it stop though?

For fok sakes peanut brain #2.  You have to know there was a problem to apply the breaks and no they wouldn't have helped, 20 miles is plenty to slow it down just by letting off the fuel and letting friction and gravity do the work without breaks.

[RogerDodger 798]

3 minutes ago, squistion said:

Brakes have not been ruled out as contributing to the crash. 

Yes they have.  I just ruled them out.

[squistion 2,219]

Just now, TimHauck said:

Did you quote the wrong post?

Only in the sense that I was not going to quote someone who called me 'peanut brain"

[RogerDodger 798]

1 minute ago, squistion said:

Only in the sense that I was not going to quote someone who called me 'peanut brain"

Oh boy, you really showed me!  Peanut brain.

[TimHauck 2,906]

5 minutes ago, squistion said:

Only in the sense that I was not going to quote someone who called me 'peanut brain"

No I meant you should have quoted my post asking if the brakes could have helped, and not the one where I pointed out that Obama’s regulation would not have applied to this material.

[RogerDodger 798]

We got a real battle of the wits going on here. Nitwits.

[GutterBoy 2,899]

36 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

Yes they have.  I just ruled them out.

Yeah but you're retarded.

[RogerDodger 798]

4 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Yeah but you're retarded.

Should be easy to refute my logic and conclusion then, but you can't.  

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,128]

3 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

Should be easy to refute my logic and conclusion then, but you can't.  

Dude got drawn and quartered in the Jordan Peterson thread.  Getting the same treatment in here I see.   

[GutterBoy 2,899]

48 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

Should be easy to refute my logic and conclusion then, but you can't.  

What logic?  That better breaks don't help stop a train better?

[RogerDodger 798]

55 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

What logic?  That better breaks don't help stop a train better?

Better axle breaks would make things worse.  

Oh, I think grammar police guy meant "brakes". The issue wasn't dependent on the brakes, can't you read?

[MTSkiBum 1,620]

They are shipping the waste down here to Houston for injection.

With how many wells are in the marcellus shale they could probably inject it up there, although there are more companies specializing in waste injection in Texas.

[The Real timschochet 6,832]

It can’t be the brakes because that might mean Trump did something wrong. And we can’t have that. So the brakes are out. 

[TimHauck 2,906]

4 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

It can’t be the brakes because that might mean Trump did something wrong. And we can’t have that. So the brakes are out. 

Dude, no it wouldn’t have 

[League Champion 1,911]

This is all Biden's fault for hiring the gay guy, Pete whatever his name is.

He knows how to S a D, he knows absolutely nothing about transportation or infrastructure. He's there for one reason and one reason only, HE'S GAY!

Biden hired him pandering to the Gays. This is what happens when you elect WOKENESS. 

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

14 hours ago, squistion said:

Brakes have not been ruled out as contributing to the crash. 

Nor have aliens, chupacabras, or Bugs Bunny. 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

12 hours ago, RogerDodger said:

Better axle breaks would make things worse.  

Oh, I think grammar police guy meant "brakes". The issue wasn't dependent on the brakes, can't you read?

Before the final report came out, we had NTSB officials saying that better brakes would have helped stop the train earlier and possibly avoided the derailment.

Now that we have the official report, it looks as though the brakes weren't an issue because by the time they were alerted of the failure, it was already too late

https://www.npr.org/2023/02/23/1158972561/east-palestine-train-derailment-ntsb-preliminary-report-wheel-bearing

So yes, brakes stop trains and avoid derailments, but in this particular case there were multiple failures, can't point to just one.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,498]

1 hour ago, League Champion said:

This is all Biden's fault for hiring the gay guy, Pete whatever his name is.

He knows how to S a D, he knows absolutely nothing about transportation or infrastructure. He's there for one reason and one reason only, HE'S GAY!

Biden hired him pandering to the Gays. This is what happens when you elect WOKENESS. 

He’s gay too? 

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

Honestly, I don't think Biden, Pete or Trump are to blame for this.  This is on the rail road company for terrible business practices.  I hope they are sued for a ton of money.

[League Champion 1,911]

18 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

He’s gay too? 

Yup, he's queer as the day is long 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,498]

2 minutes ago, League Champion said:

Yup, he's queer as the day is long 

Gutterboy told me the head of the DOT was black. 

[TimHauck 2,906]

1 hour ago, GutterBoy said:

Before the final report came out, we had NTSB officials saying that better brakes would have helped stop the train earlier and possibly avoided the derailment.

Now that we have the official report, it looks as though the brakes weren't an issue because by the time they were alerted of the failure, it was already too late

https://www.npr.org/2023/02/23/1158972561/east-palestine-train-derailment-ntsb-preliminary-report-wheel-bearing

So yes, brakes stop trains and avoid derailments, but in this particular case there were multiple failures, can't point to just one.

Yes it’s been established that the brakes were not the “issue,” I think the unanswered question is could better brakes have helped stop it once they realized there was an issue.  Seems plausible it may not have been “too late” if it was equipped with brakes that had a shorter stopping distance.

[League Champion 1,911]

1 hour ago, GutterBoy said:

So yes, brakes stop trains and avoid derailments, but in this particular case there were multiple failures, can't point to just one.

It's not rocket science A-Hole. The infrastructure is ancient and the system is broke. Stop giving money to pay Ukrainian pensions and focus on this Country. Old Man Joe needs get his priorities straight. 

[Alias Detective 1,407]

11 hours ago, MTSkiBum said:

They are shipping the waste down here to Houston for injection.

With how many wells are in the marcellus shale they could probably inject it up there, although there are more companies specializing in waste injection in Texas.

No thanks.  

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

8 minutes ago, League Champion said:

The infrastructure is ancient and the system is broke.

Why hasn't this been a priority for the last 6 years?

[TimHauck 2,906]

17 minutes ago, League Champion said:

It's not rocket science A-Hole. The infrastructure is ancient and the system is broke. Stop giving money to pay Ukrainian pensions and focus on this Country. Old Man Joe needs get his priorities straight. 

Are you suggesting this is the government’s responsibility and not the railroad companies?

[Ultra Max Power 214]

24 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Honestly, I don't think Biden, Pete or Trump are to blame for this.  This is on the rail road company for terrible business practices.  I hope they are sued for a ton of money.

I agree with most of this. Rail company needs to pay out a large settlement. 

I think it's also worth reviewing the rail union demands for more sick time and improved working conditions. Congress forced them to end their strike and a less engaged workforce isn't good for safety.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,360]

8 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Are you suggesting this is the government’s responsibility and not the railroad companies?

Both. I think the govt is in charge of the rails

[Hardcore troubadour 15,498]

1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Both. I think the govt is in charge of the rails

Other way around. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,360]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Other way around. 

Huh?

I think the govt builds the tracks and stuff and the train companies build/buy their trains. Isn’t the rails like roads?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,498]

4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Huh?

I think the govt builds the tracks and stuff and the train companies build/buy their trains. Isn’t the rails like roads?

The rails donate lots of money. They want and get results.  The results they want. 

[BuckSwope 654]

8 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Huh?

I think the govt builds the tracks and stuff and the train companies build/buy their trains. Isn’t the rails like roads?

He is saying the lobbyists have bought said government, so they are largely working for the rail industry. 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,360]

32 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

He is saying the lobbyists have bought said government, so they are largely working for the rail industry. 

oh well thats a given, all I was saying was that the rails are part of the infrastructure

 

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

1 minute ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

oh well thats a given, all I was saying was that the rails are part of the infrastructure

 

and our infrastructure has been trash

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,360]

Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

and our infrastructure has been trash

but build back better

abortion is infrastructure, racism is infrastructure, ukraine is infrastructure

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

but build back better

abortion is infrastructure, racism is infrastructure, ukraine is infrastructure

I place blame on Biden.  I also place blame on Trump, do you?

[GutterBoy 2,899]

7 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

oh well thats a given, all I was saying was that the rails are part of the infrastructure

 

The railroads are owned and operated by the railways, not the govt.

[TimHauck 2,906]

8 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

oh well thats a given, all I was saying was that the rails are part of the infrastructure

 

Did the rails play a role in this crash?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,498]

6 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

but build back better

abortion is infrastructure, racism is infrastructure, ukraine is infrastructure

Great post.