Fox News Hosts were Repeating Lies about Election

[Voltaire 5,530]

Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

For feeding the people full of misinformation but I was saying it more as a joke.  Would people have stormed the Capitol if Fox News and Trump weren't repeating lies about the election?  I doubt it.

By the time Jan 6th arrived, President Trump had lost the court challenges so it was time to move on. That doesn't mean he or Fox or any outlet was spreading lies by pointing out the shenanigans and dubious vote counting processes in battleground states all over the country. Jan 6th happened because people were aware of them.

[JustinCharge 2,397]

NEWS FLASH:  all media are lying to you.  All of them.  For the entire history of the press, this has been true. 

Its fascinating how liberals cannot grasp this.  They even try to tell me what I think.  I keep hearing from brain-dead liberals that I trust FOX news and distrust CNN.  I keep telling them otherwise, and they refuse to listen.  This thread is yet another example.  The only reason a liberal would post this is if they think we trust FOX.

Are you liberals in the geek club on crack?!?!?

[Hawkeye21 2,458]

Just now, JustinCharge said:

NEWS FLASH:  all media are lying to you.  All of them.  For the entire history of the press, this has been true. 

Its fascinating how liberals cannot grasp this.  They even try to tell me what I think.  I keep hearing from brain-dead liberals that I trust FOX news and distrust CNN.  I keep telling them otherwise, and they refuse to listen.  This thread is yet another example.  The only reason a liberal would post this is if they think we trust FOX.

Are you liberals in the geek club on crack?!?!?

NEWS FLASH:  We know.  Has anyone denied that here?  This is about the stolen election conspiracy theories being complete BS.

[Hawkeye21 2,458]

1 minute ago, Voltaire said:

By the time Jan 6th arrived, President Trump had lost the court challenges so it was time to move on. That doesn't mean he or Fox or any outlet was spreading lies by pointing out the shenanigans and dubious vote counting processes in battleground states all over the country. Jan 6th happened because people were aware of them.

I disagree.  The Fox hosts admitted behind the scenes that it was all BS but needed to cater to their audience so they kept pushing the false story.  It's all there for us to see.

[Mike Honcho 5,549]

2 hours ago, Ultra Max Power said:

this will probably go down the same path as "No reasonable viewer would think these statements are facts"

 

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Defamation: To prove prima facie defamation, a plaintiff must show four things: 1) a false statement purporting to be fact; 2) publication or communication of that statement to a third person; 3) fault amounting to at least negligence; and 4) damages, or some harm caused to the reputation of the person or entity who is the subject ...

No, it will go a long way to either winning their court case and getting a big check from Murdoch...or getting a big check from Murdoch before it gets to court.

2 hours ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Now do CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, Vox, The Daily Beast, The Atlantic, Politico, The Washington Post, The New York Times, etc...

Okay.  CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, Vox, The Daily Beast, The Atlantic, Politico, The Washington Post, The New York Times, etc...did not repeatedly lie about election results. 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

NEWS FLASH:  We know.  Has anyone denied that here?  This is about the stolen election conspiracy theories being complete BS.

Well the liberals screaming that Bush stole the election from Gore in 2000 was total BS.  Good to see you agree.

[Voltaire 5,530]

1 minute ago, JustinCharge said:

NEWS FLASH:  all media are lying to you.  All of them.  For the entire history of the press, this has been true. 

Its fascinating how liberals cannot grasp this.  They even try to tell me what I think.  I keep hearing from brain-dead liberals that I trust FOX news and distrust CNN.  I keep telling them otherwise, and they refuse to listen.  This thread is yet another example.  The only reason a liberal would post this is if they think we trust FOX.

Are you liberals in the geek club on crack?!?!?

Growing up there was an ethic in the journalistic profession to try to present both sides of an argument and for the journalist to divorece themselves and their opinions from the story as best they could. That's been abandoned but it doesn't mean that people like Walter Cronkite and others didn't practice it. I can still remember a time of decent, honest journalism.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,057]

1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I disagree.  The Fox hosts admitted behind the scenes that it was all BS but needed to cater to their audience so they kept pushing the false story.  It's all there for us to see.

Who did, on air? What did they say? 

[Voltaire 5,530]

1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I disagree.  The Fox hosts admitted behind the scenes that it was all BS but needed to cater to their audience so they kept pushing the false story.  It's all there for us to see.

You want something to see, click on the link I provided a half hour ago.

[Hawkeye21 2,458]

1 minute ago, JustinCharge said:

Well the liberals screaming that Bush stole the election from Gore in 2000 was total BS.  Good to see you agree.

Cool.  No one is arguing that.  Christ, I was still in high school then.

[League Champion 1,926]

Hillary claimed that Trump stole the election from her so what's the problem? It goes that way regardless anymore. 

[Hawkeye21 2,458]

52 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

You want something to see, click on the link I provided a half hour ago.

It all sounded sketchy AF.  I get it being upset by that.

[Ultra Max Power 214]

4 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

 

No, it will go a long way to either winning their court case and getting a big check from Murdoch...or getting a big check from Murdoch before it gets to court.

 

That "reasonable person" statement was from a judge after OAN sued Rachel Maddow for reporting "OAN is literally paid Russian propaganda".  It meets the defined terms for defamation, but this court went with that its ok for news reporters can have opinions they state as factual. 

 

[Pimpadeaux 2,407]

15 minutes ago, League Champion said:

It absolutely is. It's no mystery that Russia invaded after Trump left office. Trump made it clear to Russia that he'd take immediate action if there was a Russian invasion of Ukraine.

Russia faced Biden and he cowered like he has done his entire Presidency. It's an absolute joke how weak this guy is. Now China is facing him. 

There isn't any evidence of any of this. It's just a bunch of Trump hot air that MAGA accepts.

My opinion is that the opposite is true, that Russia and Putin had it pretty good with Trump and salivated at the prospect of the United States pulling out of NATO. 

And please explain to me how far righties on one hand complain about Biden sending all that equipment over there and on the other hand claim he's a coward.

Those are conflicting viewpoints mutually embraced by MAGA because they both reflect negatively on Biden.

Putin thought he could just roll into Ukraine, capture it in a matter of days and be embraced by the Ukrainian people. He underestimated both the Ukrainian ability to fight as well as the world's reaction to his invasion.

Now we have what might go down as one of the bloodiest conflicts in world history. Russia has already seen an estimated 140,000 soldiers killed in this thing, with the worst yet to come.

 

[Pimpadeaux 2,407]

13 minutes ago, League Champion said:

Hillary claimed that Trump stole the election from her so what's the problem? It goes that way regardless anymore. 

And all these years later, the only ones still talking about this baloney claim are MAGA folks, although there is plenty of evidence suggesting that Russia indeed tried to interfere with the election. 

[League Champion 1,926]

Just now, Pimpadeaux said:

My opinion is that the opposite is true, that Russia and Putin had it pretty good with Trump and salivated at the prospect of the United States pulling out of NATO. 

False narrative, again. Russia was scared to death of Trump, he even bombed a Russian military base in Turkey. The Biden Family and their drug addict pedophile Son were always in bed with Russia. The Dems wanted everyone to think that Trump did, was never true. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,407]

2 minutes ago, League Champion said:

False narrative, again. Russia was scared to death of Trump, he even bombed a Russian military base in Turkey. The Biden Family and their drug addict pedophile Son were always in bed with Russia. The Dems wanted everyone to think that Trump did, was never true. 

The far right labels Democrats as war mongers yet believes Russia would be more fearful of a Republican president than an alleged warmongering Democratic  president.

This sh!t doesn't make sense, bro!

[Ultra Max Power 214]

Fiona Hill came out and said Putin waited for Biden to become president before engaging with Ukraine because Biden was more predictable than Trump. 

[Fnord 2,644]

27 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

The far right labels Democrats as war mongers yet believes Russia would be more fearful of a Republican president than an alleged warmongering Democratic  president.

This sh!t doesn't make sense, bro!

It does to them, that's all that matters. I love how they can bash the media incessantly over being biased and untruthful, then they just unobjectively believe everything they hear that paints Democrats and liberals in an unfavorable light. Critical thought is not exactly valued amongst this demographic. 

[Fnord 2,644]

2 minutes ago, Ultra Max Power said:

Fiona Hill came out and said Putin waited for Biden to become president before engaging with Ukraine because Biden was more predictable than Trump. 

I'd love to hear more evidence behind this conclusion. I find it completely unbelievable that Putin wouldn't have attacked Ukraine if Trump had been reelected.

[MDC 8,114]

1 hour ago, League Champion said:

Fox News girls are hot, CNN & MSNBC girls are Pigs. 

The dancers at Centerfolds always say I’m cute and funny.  

[JustinCharge 2,397]

1 hour ago, Voltaire said:

Growing up there was an ethic in the journalistic profession to try to present both sides of an argument and for the journalist to divorece themselves and their opinions from the story as best they could. That's been abandoned but it doesn't mean that people like Walter Cronkite and others didn't practice it. I can still remember a time of decent, honest journalism.

there was no such ethic in journalism.  The media did an absolute hatchet job on Herbert Hoover to blame him for the entire Great Depression.  They absolutely refused to call FDR out for causing the Great Depression.  If FDR is not elected, we still have a crash but the economy rebounds strongly.  FDR got in and levied horrifically high taxes on businesses that destroyed new growth. 

FDR is literally the worst president in US history for the lives he destroyed in the name of taxes.  That sonofabitch got protected by a focked liberal media way back then. 

The public bought it, so the media then blamed Nixon for Vietnam when Kennedy got us in Vietnam and Nixon got us out.  The media then blamed Bush43 for the dotcom crash which happened before he was in office.  Bill Clinton was president when that crash happened. 

These democrat presidents are disasters but the press protects them for 100 years.

 

[Hawkeye21 2,458]

How did this turn into another liberal bashing and what about Hilary thread?

[Fnord 2,644]

2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

How did this turn into another liberal bashing and what about Hilary thread?

Because the only response the Conservative knucklehead MAGAts have is "WHATABOUT!!!!!"

[MDC 8,114]

2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

How did this turn into another liberal bashing and what about Hilary thread?

Are you new here?  

[seafoam1 3,524]

I heard that Barbara Walters said a dirty word "behind the scenes" once.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,340]

1 hour ago, Mike Honcho said:

 

No, it will go a long way to either winning their court case and getting a big check from Murdoch...or getting a big check from Murdoch before it gets to court.

Okay.  CNN, MSNBC, ABC, NBC, CBS, Vox, The Daily Beast, The Atlantic, Politico, The Washington Post, The New York Times, etc...did not repeatedly lie about election results. 

Touche'.  Well done, Mike Honcho.  Well done. 

[Hawkeye21 2,458]

Just now, MDC said:

Are you new here?  

Knowing that they all hate the MSM I thought maybe they would admit the election was never stolen and that it was all a lie.

[Hawkeye21 2,458]

1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

I heard that Barbara Walters said a dirty word "behind the scenes" once.

Neat

[lickin_starfish 2,035]

The same retaards who said Russia stole the 2016 election are the same ones saying to get over the 2020 election.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,057]

So, nothing burger. It’s so funny, because I remember people freaking out because Fox wasn’t saying the election was stolen. People started watching other right wing channels because they were saying it. Fox News ratings went down during that time. 

[seafoam1 3,524]

5 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said:

The same retaards who said Russia stole the 2016 election are the same ones saying to get over the 2020 election.

How many tax payer dollars went towards paying liberals for years of trying and failing to prove that? 

What a fock up the liberal nation is.

[TBayXXXVII 2,682]

1 hour ago, crackattack said:

It was a problem then. Hillary calling Trump illegitimate was a problem. Abrams using the race card to deny her lose is a problem. All of these things can be true. Hillary and Abrams are garbage candidates, but I think Trump is too. All can be true at once.

I completely agree with you.  But it's only an issue... NOW.  That's my point.  By issue, I mean liberals calling out a conservative network.  Democrats defended their networks when they were a part of this back in the Hillary and Abrams days, but now they want the conservatives to bash their network.  Sorry (not sorry), if my response is "F@@k off".

[Ultra Max Power 214]

21 minutes ago, Fnord said:

I'd love to hear more evidence behind this conclusion. I find it completely unbelievable that Putin wouldn't have attacked Ukraine if Trump had been reelected.

https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-frustrated-constantly-explaining-things-to-trump-fiona-hill-2022-5

One of the reasons Putin invaded Ukraine with President Joe Biden in the White House was that he expected the US to "sue for peace" and thought it would be better to deal with Biden than trying to negotiate with someone like Trump, whom the Russian leader had "to explain everything to all the time," Hill, who served as the top Russia advisor on the National Security Council under Trump, said Tuesday at a Chicago Council on Global Affairs event.

"He thought that somebody like Biden — who's a transatlanticist, who knows all about NATO, who actually knows where Ukraine is, and actually knows something about the history, and is very steeped in international affairs — would be the right person to engage with," Hill said.

[Hawkeye21 2,458]

9 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said:

The same retaards who said Russia stole the 2016 election are the same ones saying to get over the 2020 election.

That's not what's happening here.

[Fnord 2,644]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

So, nothing burger. It’s so funny, because I remember people freaking out because Fox wasn’t saying the election was stolen. People started watching other right wing channels because they were saying it. Fox News ratings went down during that time. 

And went right back up when they returned to backing Trump's big lie. You're not fooling anyone with this line of BS. We all know you watch Tucker religiously and parrot his talking points endlessly. 

[Hardcore troubadour 16,057]

1 minute ago, Fnord said:

And went right back up when they returned to backing Trump's big lie. You're not fooling anyone with this line of BS. We all know you watch Tucker religiously and parrot his talking points endlessly. 

So just tell me who then? What did they say, on air? 

[seafoam1 3,524]

I heard that Tony Orlando once peed in a pool "behind the scenes".

[Fnord 2,644]

2 minutes ago, Ultra Max Power said:

https://www.businessinsider.com/putin-frustrated-constantly-explaining-things-to-trump-fiona-hill-2022-5

One of the reasons Putin invaded Ukraine with President Joe Biden in the White House was that he expected the US to "sue for peace" and thought it would be better to deal with Biden than trying to negotiate with someone like Trump, whom the Russian leader had "to explain everything to all the time," Hill, who served as the top Russia advisor on the National Security Council under Trump, said Tuesday at a Chicago Council on Global Affairs event.

"He thought that somebody like Biden — who's a transatlanticist, who knows all about NATO, who actually knows where Ukraine is, and actually knows something about the history, and is very steeped in international affairs — would be the right person to engage with," Hill said.

Thank you. So the narrative is Putin waited until Trump was out of office because he was a delusional idiot that couldn't be reasoned with?

That story definitely checks out. Mea culpa. Putin wouldn't have invaded if Trump had won. I'll bet the Ukrainians are really pissed at us...

[crackattack 520]

2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I completely agree with you.  But it's only an issue... NOW.  That's my point.  By issue, I mean liberals calling out a conservative network.  Democrats defended their networks when they were a part of this back in the Hillary and Abrams days, but now they want the conservatives to bash their network.  Sorry (not sorry), if my response is "F@@k off".

I agree with you. The people who made excuses for Hillary and Abrams saying "but they conceded the election" are the problem too. Yeah, they might have conceded or eventually conceded, but then they went on a years long tours of saying how it was stolen or racist BS laws. It's become the new norm and people only push back against the other side.