Tennessee passes bill gutting marriage rights

[GutterBoy 2,899]

9 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Like I said, I thought you'd be against "misinformation".  I guess not.  You see, a clerk not issuing the license in NOT in the bill... only affects people who perform marriages.  It gives them protection from a lawsuit.   Something Colorado chose not to do.

If that's the case then we now have another poorly worded bill up for interpretation.  We'll probably find out what happens.

Again, why is the GOP pulling all this sh1t?  It's stupid.

[GutterBoy 2,899]

4 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

None of the lawmakers on either side of the debate seems to be saying it though.

They're not saying it's not...

[Hardcore troubadour 15,486]

10 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Kids can't see a drag show at home or at a business?  It's not about protecting the kids, enough with this BS.

Also public property does not mean "out in the open"

So drag shows haven’t been made illegal. Glad you came to your senses. You’re welcome. 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

So drag shows haven’t been made illegal. Glad you came to your senses. You’re welcome. 

What is it that you say?  It isn't happening?  It's kinda happening...

[Horseman 2,470]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

What is it that you say?  It isn't happening?  It's kinda happening...

You're having trouble with your words, again. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,486]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

What is it that you say?  It isn't happening?  It's kinda happening...

No, it’s not. It’s no different than restricting adult book stores and peep shows and where they may operate. 

[Casual Observer 597]

51 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

I believe this legislation could have been drafted more tightly, and narrowly.  The drafting welcomes the interpretations being advanced in this thread. 

Profound statement, Professor.

[RLLD 4,247]

1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Marriage doesn't belong in the government purview.

Thank you! I am just not sure why government thinks it needs to protect marriage, or abortions, or the children.....

Government needs to stay the fock out of our homes. Stick to protecting the border, and providing essential services.  

[TBayXXXVII 2,552]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

If that's the case then we now have another poorly worded bill up for interpretation.  We'll probably find out what happens.

Again, why is the GOP pulling all this sh1t?  It's stupid.

How is it worded poorly?  It specifically says (and note that the author even quotes it) :“a person shall not be required to solemnize a marriage if the person has an objection to solemnizing the marriage based on the person’s conscience or religious beliefs."

In case you don't know what the word "solemnize" means, here you go.  The intent is to specifically give protection to the people who PERFORM the ceremony/rites and NOT the people who give the licenses.  It's preventing people from suing other people for not performing the marriage, like I said... the OPPOSITE of what Colorado did.  You should be upset with the author of the article for misinformation and not the government for protecting their citizens rights.

[Gladiators 1,993]

Sorry for your loss Gutterpedo

[WhiskeyCash 65]

Just now, Gladiators said:

Sorry for your loss Gutterpedo

Any time I see him defending something I automatically know whatever he’s defending is either a lie or it’s harmful to the American people. Only sociopaths like these people continue to double down and act wild & upset when trying to defend their lie 

[TBayXXXVII 2,552]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

Thank you! I am just not sure why government thinks it needs to protect marriage, or abortions, or the children.....

Government needs to stay the fock out of our homes. Stick to protecting the border, and providing essential services.  

Yup.

• Marriages should be handled like personal contracts.
• Abortions should be handled like elective surgery.

Neither belong in the political arena.  If you want it, pay the costs and move about your day... be it a wedding or abortion.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,486]

1 minute ago, Gladiators said:

Sorry for your loss Gutterpedo

He thinks twerking is just like the Twist. 

[RLLD 4,247]

Just now, TBayXXXVII said:

Yup.

• Marriages should be handled like personal contracts.
• Abortions should be handled like elective surgery.

Neither belong in the political arena.  If you want it, pay the costs and move about your day... be it a wedding or abortion.

Agree completely

[dogcows 1,030]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

Thank you! I am just not sure why government thinks it needs to protect marriage, or abortions, or the children.....

Government needs to stay the fock out of our homes. Stick to protecting the border, and providing essential services.  

This sentiment is why I think the current GOP strategy is doomed. Banning abortion, books. CRT, trans people, drag shows, and on and on… is simply stuff the government should be leaving alone. “Live and let live” is a popular saying for a reason. As for essential services, how about healthcare? 

[The Real timschochet 6,825]

9 minutes ago, WhiskeyCash said:

I needed this laugh  This is more proof that if you side with the left then you are a liar. Cause this is a lie and from what I’ve seen, you tend to post quite a bit of lies. Get called out on them and all you do is double down 

What part of what I wrote is a lie? Obviously it’s a subjective opinion, which you’re free to disagree with, but I didn’t offer any facts to dispute one way or another. 

[RLLD 4,247]

Just now, dogcows said:

This sentiment is why I think the current GOP strategy is doomed. Banning abortion, books. CRT, trans people, drag shows, and on and on… is simply stuff the government should be leaving alone. “Live and let live” is a popular saying for a reason. As for essential services, how about healthcare? 

Healthcare is not an essential service

[Hardcore troubadour 15,486]

3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

What part of what I wrote is a lie? Obviously it’s a subjective opinion, which you’re free to disagree with, but I didn’t offer any facts to dispute one way or another. 

Like your facts claiming Trump called the troops losers? 

[Horseman 2,470]

Here is the link to the existing legislation: 

https://law.justia.com/codes/tennessee/2021/title-36/chapter-3/part-3/section-36-3-301/

Here is the language being added:

SECTION 1. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 36-3-301, is amended by adding the
following as a new subsection:
(m) A person shall not be required to solemnize a marriage if the person has an
objection to solemnizing the marriage based on the person's conscience or religious
beliefs.
SECTION 2. This act takes effect upon becoming a law, the public welfare requiring it.

Here is the definition of Solemnize:

verb

Duly perform (a ceremony, especially that of marriage).

Life Lesson:

Learn to do your own research before you fall for fake news tweets or you'll look like a retard just like gutterboy.

[Horseman 2,470]

42 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Two gay people want to get married, county clerk doesn't want them to get married, they don't get a license.  Get it?

[The Real timschochet 6,825]

6 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Here is the link to the existing legislation: 

https://law.justia.com/codes/tennessee/2021/title-36/chapter-3/part-3/section-36-3-301/

Here is the language being added:

SECTION 1. Tennessee Code Annotated, Section 36-3-301, is amended by adding the
following as a new subsection:
(m) A person shall not be required to solemnize a marriage if the person has an
objection to solemnizing the marriage based on the person's conscience or religious
beliefs.
SECTION 2. This act takes effect upon becoming a law, the public welfare requiring it.

Here is the definition of Solemnize:

verb

Duly perform (a ceremony, especially that of marriage).

Life Lesson:

Learn to do your own research before you fall for fake news tweets or you'll look like a retard just like gutterboy.

Has anyone been forced to solemnize a marriage against their will prior to this law? 
 

If no, then it’s a useless law designed to promote anti-gay hysteria and bigotry- in short, just as bad as its critics are claiming, and proof that, in this current Republican Party, extremism rules the roost. 

[lickin_starfish 1,942]

I'm all in favor of fhags being able to marry each other. I just don't want to be force-fed that bullschit on TV.

[Horseman 2,470]

7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Has anyone been forced to solemnize a marriage against their will prior to this law? 
 

If no, then it’s a useless law designed to promote anti-gay hysteria and bigotry- in short, just as bad as its critics are claiming, and proof that, in this current Republican Party, extremism rules the roost. 

Move to California with the rest of the faggots, problem solved.  

[MDC 7,471]

59 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Bill has nothing to do with preventing gay people from anything.  

Seems to me it empowers county clerks to refuse to solemnize marriages based on personal beliefs. Who do you think they’ll refuse to marry? Divorcées? lol

[Gladiators 1,993]

1 minute ago, MDC said:

Seems to me it empowers county clerks to refuse to solemnize marriages based on personal beliefs. Who do you think they’ll refuse to marry? Divorcées? lol

 Muh gay marriage.

[TimHauck 2,905]

10 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said:

I'm all in favor of fhags being able to marry each other. I just don't want to be force-fed that bullschit on TV.

homophobic and racist, sweet combo dude.

[jerryskids 6,825]

5 minutes ago, MDC said:

Seems to me it empowers county clerks to refuse to solemnize marriages based on personal beliefs. Who do you think they’ll refuse to marry? Divorcées? lol

That appears to not be the case, as per the above definitions of "solemnize." 

[lickin_starfish 1,942]

4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

homophobic and racist, sweet combo dude.

Eat schit, fhag.

I said I was in favor of you being able to marry. Isn't that enough?

[WhiskeyCash 65]

53 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

What part of what I wrote is a lie? Obviously it’s a subjective opinion, which you’re free to disagree with, but I didn’t offer any facts to dispute one way or another. 

What part? The entire thing  

[MDC 7,471]

25 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

That appears to not be the case, as per the above definitions of "solemnize." 

TN bill that allows government employees to refuse to solemnize marriages passes House.

 

[dogcows 1,030]

1 hour ago, RLLD said:

Healthcare is not an essential service

[nobody 2,687]

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Why do I get the feeling there’s more to this story? I’ll hold off in condemning it. 

The whole "...deny licenses to interracial couples" thing is a dead giveaway.

[RLLD 4,247]

3 minutes ago, dogcows said:

No good.....and I mean....NO GOOD....would ever come from government interfering with healthcare....government is NOT the answer, it is the problem. 

[dogcows 1,030]

33 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

That appears to not be the case, as per the above definitions of "solemnize." 

Tennessee law appears to require that the license be solemnized. So somebody has to do it. Depending on where you live, the local church might not want to approve a gay marriage, and your local justice of the peace might turn you down too. So you can’t get married in your own town because people there don’t like gay people? Nice job, Tennessee.

[League Champion 1,911]

2 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

The Republicans are quickly becoming the party hell bent on denying rights of the people they don't like.

This is gonna work out great in the general election.

When 2 men can procreate is when they can get legally married. 

Liberals love Science, look it up on your Google machine. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,552]

37 minutes ago, MDC said:

Seems to me it empowers county clerks to refuse to solemnize marriages based on personal beliefs. Who do you think they’ll refuse to marry? Divorcées? lol

County clerks have no impact on this.  You're reaction is a result of misinformation.  You should be mad at the twitter account and author of the article.  The clerks have ZERO ability to deny anyone of anything, from this bill.  It's solely for the protection of the rights of the people that perform the ceremony/rites.  Think of it as if these were bakers being legally allowed to NOT bake a cake.  In that scenario, the people getting married can still get a cake, but it has to be from someone else.  Here, the people can still get their license and get married, it just has to be someone who is fine with performing the ceremony.

[jerryskids 6,825]

8 minutes ago, MDC said:

TN bill that allows government employees to refuse to solemnize marriages passes House.

 

I read that article 3 times and can't tell what it is trying to say.

I presume "solemnize" means perform the "I dos".  So the clerk would still need to issue the license, but can't be forced to officiate.   

[League Champion 1,911]

When 2 men can procreate is when they can get legally married. 

Liberals love Science, look it up on your Google machine. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,552]

11 minutes ago, dogcows said:

 Nice job, Tennessee.

I agree.  It's nice to see a state stepping up to supporting people's first amendment rights to freedom of religion without persecution.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,486]

“Gutting”. Lol. Gutterboy the rube.