Jimmy G to Raiders

[TommyGavin 790]

https://www.nfl.com/_amp/raiders-sign-quarterback-jimmy-garoppolo
 

crazy a mediocre QB can get a 72 million dollar contract 

[seafoam1 1,879]

2 minutes ago, TommyGavin said:

https://www.nfl.com/_amp/raiders-sign-quarterback-jimmy-garoppolo
 

crazy a mediocre QB can get a 72 million dollar contract 

He's like 40-17 as a starter. He's better than other QBs getting way more. But man, he does get injured a lot.

[MDC 5,902]

Dumb signing. The Raiders are absolutely not a league average game manager away from anything.

[kutulu 1,552]

He celebrated by spraining an ankle

[shorepatrol 1,737]

3 minutes ago, kutulu said:

He celebrated by spraining an ankle

Fair. 

[Bill E. 666]

34 minutes ago, TommyGavin said:

https://www.nfl.com/_amp/raiders-sign-quarterback-jimmy-garoppolo
 

crazy a mediocre QB can get a 72 million dollar contract 

It is amazing what teams keep paying for QBs that do not have a winning history in the playoffs.  I mean if you think you are a QB away from a championship and this guy will get you over the top then fine but the salaries keep skyrocketing for guys that do not get the job done in the playoffs.

Jimmy Garoppolo had a passer rating of 74.1 with 962 yards, 4 touchdowns and 6 interceptions in 7 games in the playoffs in his career.

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/jimmy-garoppolo-playoff-stats

 

[TommyGavin 790]

2 minutes ago, Bill E. said:

It is amazing what teams keep paying for QBs that do not have a winning history in the playoffs.  I mean if you think you are a QB away from a championship and this guy will get you over the top then fine but the salaries keep skyrocketing for guys that do not get the job done in the playoffs.

Jimmy Garoppolo had a passer rating of 74.1 with 962 yards, 4 touchdowns and 6 interceptions in 7 games in the playoffs in his career.

https://www.statmuse.com/nfl/ask/jimmy-garoppolo-playoff-stats

 

What is Derek Carrs numbers ?

[Bill E. 666]

8 minutes ago, TommyGavin said:

What is Derek Carrs numbers ?

If my friend pays $40,000 for a 2010 Taurus and I get a 2012 Taurus for only $35000 it does not mean that I got a deal. 

Edit.. and getting a 74 passer rating with SF or a 65 passer rating with Oakland does not tell me there is a lot of difference. 

 

[shorepatrol 1,737]

4 minutes ago, Bill E. said:

If my friend pays $40,000 for a 2010 Taurus and I get a 2012 Taurus for only $35000 it does not mean that I got a deal.

Nice analogy. But Jimmy can't stay on the field. 

[Bier Meister 1,517]

That oline and lack of defense are going to get him hurt again

[Bill E. 666]

3 minutes ago, shorepatrol said:

Nice analogy. But Jimmy can't stay on the field. 

My 2012 Taurus could not stay out of the shop either.  I cut it after 2 seasons. 

[Bill E. 666]

3 minutes ago, Bier Meister said:

That oline and lack of defense are going to get him hurt again

He will get to recuperate in a nicer house though. 

[weepaws 2,469]

Raiders need to sign a good back up Qb, Jimmy G has played  full season of games once.   

Now he does get a boost in having Adams at Wr.    

 

[BeenHereBefore 1,338]

46 minutes ago, weepaws said:

Raiders need to sign a good back up Qb, Jimmy G has played  full season of games once.   

Now he does get a boost in having Adams at Wr.    

 

Yea but he had Deebo and Kittle to throw too and a good running game to lean on. I say his stock has to go down.

[weepaws 2,469]

Jimmy G stock on ff has never been very high for me, he can’t stay healthy.  

But I think he’s going to be playing with the best wr he’s ever had with Adams, the best rb he’s ever had with Jacobs, he does lose at te.  

Biggest challenge for Jimmy G is going to be staying healthy, and the Niners had one of the best defense in the game, not so much with the Raiders.  

 

[kutulu 1,552]

Raiders also sign Jakobi 

[MDC 5,902]

8 hours ago, weepaws said:

Raiders need to sign a good back up Qb, Jimmy G has played  full season of games once.   

Now he does get a boost in having Adams at Wr.    

 

If the Raiders were a smart organization, which they aren’t, they’d draft a QB Round 1 despite signing Jimmy. Instead they’ll throw a lot of $ around on overpriced FAs and to try to sneak into a wild card spot and miss the postseason anyway. 

[WhiteWonder 2,179]

13 hours ago, seafoam1 said:

He's like 40-17 as a starter. He's better than other QBs getting way more. But man, he does get injured a lot.

Yup.  He is well worth that money compared to others. Is he as talented as Carr? No. And sure, he has played for two really good organizations.... but he's a proven winner. Just has to stay healthy... and really, that red flag is baked into the contract. 

[WhiteWonder 2,179]

8 hours ago, BeenHereBefore said:

Yea but he had Deebo and Kittle to throw too and a good running game to lean on. I say his stock has to go down.

Deebo, Kittle and a good running system

vs

Adams, Waller and Josh Jacobs?

 

Gotta give the point to Vegas even though I would probably side with SF just because of the organization/coaching.  Vegas needs to focus first and foremost on the offensive line, which was actually pretty solid in 2022, and bring in a capable backup. maybe they can look at a rookie on day 2. I would say to go after Levis but I think they need to be using that pick on the offensive line or to bolster the defense. 

[weepaws 2,469]

34 minutes ago, kutulu said:

Raiders also sign Jakobi 

Good pickup. 

[weepaws 2,469]

24 minutes ago, MDC said:

If the Raiders were a smart organization, which they aren’t, they’d draft a QB Round 1 despite signing Jimmy. Instead they’ll throw a lot of $ around on overpriced FAs and to try to sneak into a wild card spot and miss the postseason anyway. 

Agreed.  Not so sure that could have in this draft.  

[kozmiq 70]

36 minutes ago, weepaws said:

Good pickup. 

I could have sworn your reply would have been 'thank God'.  amirite

[Bier Meister 1,517]

9 hours ago, BeenHereBefore said:

Yea but he had Deebo and Kittle to throw too and a good running game to lean on. I say his stock has to go down.

i think offensively, they are fine: adams, renfroe, waller, jacobs, cole, hollins.  that defense and division means he will likely be throwing more than he did in SF.  current oline would have me worried

[GobbleDog 822]

14 hours ago, seafoam1 said:

He's like 40-17 as a starter.

Exactly. Seems like a great pick-up to me. What better options were out there?

I wanted Jimmy G to take over for Tua.  Alas it was not to be.

 

[easilyscan 559]

6 minutes ago, GobbleDog said:

Exactly. Seems like a great pick-up to me. What better options were out there?

I wanted Jimmy G to take over for Tua.  Alas it was not to be.

 

Nothing against the guy, I hope he's successful, but he compiled that 40-17 record playing for 2 HQ teams. 

[Bier Meister 1,517]

12 minutes ago, kutulu said:

Hollins is FA, they did pick up Jakobi 

 

 

Hollins is a FA, they did sign Jakobi

man! you only had to say it once.

[weepaws 2,469]

1 hour ago, kozmiq said:

I could have sworn your reply would have been 'thank God'.  amirite

You shouldn’t swear, and don’t use God’s name in vain.   

Thanks. 

[weepaws 2,469]

1 hour ago, easilyscan said:

Nothing against the guy, I hope he's successful, but he compiled that 40-17 record playing for 2 HQ teams. 

Agreed.  

[seafoam1 1,879]

1 minute ago, weepaws said:

You shouldn’t swear, and don’t use God’s name in vain.   

Thanks. 

 

[listen2me 23 1,549]

Waller to the giants

[listen2me 23 1,549]

Just now, listen2me 23 said:

Waller to the giants

For pick #100

Toney for Waller

[kozmiq 70]

1 hour ago, weepaws said:

You shouldn’t swear, and don’t use God’s name in vain.   

Thanks. 

I didn't and I didn't !  Like in Court, 'do you swear to tell the truth ..' ... and thanking God is not in vain.  

You should not bare false witness.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,710]

9 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Waller to the giants

It’s ok. But I like Bellinger. He flashed last year before nearly losing his eye. 

[Bier Meister 1,517]

2 hours ago, Bier Meister said:

i think offensively, they are fine: adams, renfroe, waller, jacobs, cole, hollins.  that defense and division means he will likely be throwing more than he did in SF.  current oline would have me worried

waller to NYG

[kutulu 1,552]

1 hour ago, Bier Meister said:

man! you only had to say it once.

I know I'm in the sticks and my internet sucks

[weepaws 2,469]

1 hour ago, kozmiq said:

I didn't and I didn't !  Like in Court, 'do you swear to tell the truth ..' ... and thanking God is not in vain.  

You should not bare false witness.

This isn’t court, and don’t use God’s name in vain.  

[weepaws 2,469]

Waller wasn’t an upgrade at TE over Kittle for Jimmy G, but it doesn’t help Jimmy G.  

It’s a good move for the Gmen imo, Waller will be out half the season, but they still have Bellinger.  

[kozmiq 70]

2 hours ago, weepaws said:

This isn’t court, and don’t use God’s name in vain.  

:smacksforehead:  You must be a Republican.

[weepaws 2,469]

1 hour ago, kozmiq said:

:smacksforehead:  You must be a Republican.

I don’t put any trust in man, I put by trust in the Lord.  I’m a Christian, not a fool following foolish man. How about you? In whom do you put your trust? 

Psalm 118:8.  

Amen. 

[Horseman 1,518]

Keep the spam in the bible thread, imo.