Guns: The No. 1 cause of death for U.S. children

[Hawkeye21 1,856]

Just now, GobbleDog said:

All countries have some people wanting to shoot others. The difference is Americans have easy access to an arsenal of weapons and ammunition.  That's the problem.

"If only we could get people to not want to shoot others..."  kumbaya

Will getting rid of all the guns make these people not want to kill others then?

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1 minute ago, GobbleDog said:

Ya only say that because America's gun violence rate (and mass shooting rate) is ridiculously higher than every other first world country.  So your answer is "well, then let's not compare them. We should be higher because we have more rights/protections..."  What does that mean?  That's insane. No we shouldn't.

Here's the thing that drives me insane with gun-right nuts. At least I'm unbiased and realistic. If you asked me "hypothetically, if the U.S. gun violence rate was consistent with other first world countries, then would you still favor gun control?" to which I'd say no.

But if you ask gun-right nuts... "hypothetically, if the U.S. gun violence rate was five times higher than it is now, then would you favor gun control?" - no.  10x's higher?  - no.  100x's higher?  - no. Is there any point or situation in which you'd favor gun control? - no.  

How can you have an intelligent debate with people that have no critical thinking?

If you look at my post, it's clearly based on critical thinking.  I'm not a gun rights nut.  I've never owned a gun and probably never will.  But I understand that we will never have zero gun deaths.  YOU refuse to even answer the first question that ANYONE who wants to have an intelligent debate on this topic should ask, and which I asked in my previous post.  What is an acceptable rate of death by gun violence?  If you refuse to answer that question YOU are the one avoiding an intelligent discussion.  If we don't have a defined goal it will never be attainable.  And the reason gun control "nuts" refuse to answer that question is that every time there's an incident like this they scream to the heavens for more gun control.  But those of us who are very careful in giving up MORE on this issue than has already been taken know that if we ban "assault rifles" there will STILL be another school shooting, and then guess what happens?  The gun control "nuts" scream for MORE gun control.  And then when there is another school shooting rinse and repeat.  So, get back to me when YOU are ready for an intelligent debate on this topic, including answering hard questions such as the one you just refused to answer.

[GobbleDog 816]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

What is an acceptable rate of death by gun violence?

Obviously somewhere around the average rate of wealthy democratic 1st world countries.... UK, Australia, Spain, Germany, Italy, France, Japan, etc. all of which have fairly low rates. 

Gee, I wonder what all those countries have in common? 

 

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3 minutes ago, GobbleDog said:

Obviously somewhere around the average rate of wealthy democratic 1st world countries.... UK, Australia, Spain, Germany, Italy, France, Japan, etc. all of which have fairly low rates. 

Gee, I wonder what all those countries have in common? 

 

Still no specific number, huh?  Of course, I'd also want to see the actual stats you're basing it off of, where they came from, whether the methodology was consistent across counties as opposed to the haphazard way infant deaths are counted, and what is defined as a gun death to ensure it doesn't include things like suicide which IMO should not be included in this discussion.  So, go for it.  Give me the data you're using to form your conclusion.

[Pimpadeaux 2,271]

13 hours ago, porkbutt said:

can we ban the #1 disease spreading faction in the world while were at it? according to the cdc. men who have butt sex with other men. that would save way more lives. 

Butts don't kill people. People kill people.

[TimHauck 1,804]

14 hours ago, porkbutt said:

can we ban the #1 disease spreading faction in the world while were at it? according to the cdc. men who have butt sex with other men. that would save way more lives. 

Might as well ban kids while we’re at it

[dogcows 1,029]

1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Will getting rid of all the guns make these people not want to kill others then?

Doesn’t matter if they WANT to. The fact is, without guns, it will be much harder to act on those impulses. I might want to go visit the moon but unless I’ve got a rocket ship, it doesn’t matter how much I want it.

[Hawkeye21 1,856]

Might as well start a dystopian society where the government regulates everything we have and do.  That's the only way we can all truly be safe.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,529]

5 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Doesn’t matter if they WANT to. The fact is, without guns, it will be much harder to act on those impulses. I might want to go visit the moon but unless I’ve got a rocket ship, it doesn’t matter how much I want it.

Which other Constitutional right are you willing to sacrifice at the altar of "safety"?  Because we could make a case for "safety" on any subject and why X needs to be taken away because "safety".

[WhiskeyCash 65]

I love when liberals try to make outrageous claims like this while ignoring the real problem. You can tell what their agenda has been from the start: disarm law abiding citizens so when they try to force this lunacy on you you can’t defend yourself. Look at France. They’re reveling against their government. Now imagine if the French ppl would have guns. They’re already pushing the gov back without guns. Police and firefighters are joining them. And leftist retards REALLY think if we decided enough was enough that they would have all the support from police and military  

Never thought I’d say this but I fully believe that unless we get majority of these democrats out of office then we are going to have some type of civil war or war against the government trying to oppress us

[dogcows 1,029]

5 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Might as well start a dystopian society where the government regulates everything we have and do.  That's the only way we can all truly be safe.

In Tennessee, they ban CRT and drag shows and abortion. If you want to cut back on government controlling people, they could take away a few of those bans... then there might be room for some gun restrictions instead.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,529]

Just now, WhiskeyCash said:

I love when liberals try to make outrageous claims like this while ignoring the real problem. You can tell what their agenda has been from the start: disarm law abiding citizens so when they try to force this lunacy on you you can’t defend yourself. Look at France. They’re reveling against their government. Now imagine if the French ppl would have guns. They’re already pushing the gov back without guns. Police and firefighters are joining them. And leftist retards REALLY think if we decided enough was enough that they would have all the support from police and military  

Never thought I’d say this but I fully believe that unless we get majority of these democrats out of office then we are going to have some type of civil war or war against the government trying to oppress us

No doubt. Good people aren't going to stand around and do nothing for much longer.  AT some point, they're going to push a little too far and set off the powder keg with their far left wacko policies and beliefs.

[EternalShinyAndChrome 2,529]

1 minute ago, dogcows said:

In Tennessee, they ban CRT and drag shows and abortion. If you want to cut back on government controlling people, they could take away a few of those bans... then there might be room for some gun restrictions instead.

Serious question?  Why don't you just f'n move to one of those Socialist Utopias you always talk about instead of trying wreck the good thing we got going here in the US? 

We don't really need you or your kind here if you're going to spout Communist trash.  Seriously, you could move to the Communist/Socialist country of your choice.  They will accept you with open arms and take care of you until you're dying days (in the work camp).   GTFO.

[Hardcore troubadour 12,664]

Within the last 24 hours Biden said the rounds explode in bodies, the killer used an AK-47 and flame throwers are illegal. We need a debate on the issue. But this Fockin moron needs to sit it out. 

[WhiskeyCash 65]

Just now, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

No doubt. Good people aren't going to stand around and do nothing for much longer.  AT some point, they're going to push a little too far and set off the powder keg with their far left wacko policies and beliefs.

I think this is it. They’ve pushed people too far. Especially with them saying they “deserve it” or making excuses for the shooter or demanding people “use the correct pronouns”. Biden literally only coming downstairs for his press conference because “they told me there was ice cream down here” 

[Hardcore troubadour 12,664]

3 minutes ago, dogcows said:

In Tennessee, they ban CRT and drag shows and abortion. If you want to cut back on government controlling people, they could take away a few of those bans... then there might be room for some gun restrictions instead.

All done within the bounds of the law. Appeal it if you don’t like it. Vote others in if you don’t like it. Dont shoot up schools if you don’t like it. 

[WhiskeyCash 65]

5 minutes ago, dogcows said:

In Tennessee, they ban CRT and drag shows and abortion. If you want to cut back on government controlling people, they could take away a few of those bans... then there might be room for some gun restrictions instead.

You DO realize that we have TONS of restrictions already  Any time you go to buy a gun you have a background check ran on you. It literally takes 10 minute tops for it to be done. What more do you want? Can’t put medical info on these because that’s against HIPAA. There’s tons of regulations already for guns and yet you idiots want MORE. You’ll keep wanting more until you have them banned. You leftists seem to want MORE government regulation, MORE government control, MORE Government power. You won’t be satisfied until ALL our freedoms are gone. But hey, you’ll be “safe” cause “the government will protect you”  

Shooting up schools, committing violence, calling for violence, etc is NOT how you handle things. ALL you leftists have is the Sh1t show Jan 6th and that was already proven to be bullsh1t propaganda edited by democrats. We’ve seen the real videos. Only people committing violence is YOU and YOUR people. No more. If I see lgbtq ppl protesting, blocking traffic, attacking ppl, calling ppl racist or bigoted names, etc I WILL start attacking and beating the Sh1t out of them. I’m not the only one who’s fed up. So I’d watch your back if I were you when you go to these things. Cause you all have came for our kids to not only indoctrinate but to also kill. We are done talking. We are done being tolerant unlike you intolerant pieces of Sh1t. 

[GutterBoy 2,281]

16 minutes ago, WhiskeyCash said:

If I see lgbtq ppl protesting, blocking traffic, attacking ppl, calling ppl racist or bigoted names, etc I WILL start attacking and beating the Sh1t out of them. I’m not the only one who’s fed up. So I’d watch your back if I were you when you go to these things. Cause you all have came for our kids to not only indoctrinate but to also kill. We are done talking. We are done being tolerant unlike you intolerant pieces of Sh1t. 

[WhiskeyCash 65]

Just now, GutterBoy said:

You are one of the ones that would be getting their ass beat. But we all know you don’t leave moms basement  

[Pimpadeaux 2,271]

26 minutes ago, WhiskeyCash said:

Y If I see lgbtq ppl protesting, blocking traffic, attacking ppl, calling ppl racist or bigoted names, etc I WILL start attacking and beating the Sh1t out of them. I’m not the only one who’s fed up. So I’d watch your back if I were you when you go to these things. Cause you all have came for our kids to not only indoctrinate but to also kill. We are done talking. We are done being tolerant unlike you intolerant pieces of Sh1t. 

You've never really known pain until you wind up on the business end of a feather boa.

[WhiskeyCash 65]

2 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

You've never really known pain until you wind up on the business end of a feather boa.

B1tch I would straight B1tch slap you. Imagine this liberal piece of Sh1t trying to act like he actually works out, acts like a man, and does things a man should do instead of being the little prissy B1tch that he is  

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30 minutes ago, WhiskeyCash said:

If I see lgbtq ppl protesting, blocking traffic, attacking ppl, calling ppl racist or bigoted names, etc I WILL start attacking and beating the Sh1t out of them.

You even look at me crooked and you best apologize, or I'll focking rip you apart and make you beg for me to stop.  I eat maga twirps like you on the daily, lil whiny baby white boy, I'll fock your tonsils and have you begging for more, b1tch.

[WhiskeyCash 65]

3 minutes ago, XGay said:

You even look at me crooked and you best apologize, or I'll focking rip you apart and make you beg for me to stop.  I eat maga twirps like you on the daily, lil whiny baby white boy, I'll fock your tonsils and have you begging for more, b1tch.

Shuuuuuuut the fock up you f@gg0t ass piece of Sh1t. Only think you’d eat is hand across your face. You liberals don’t even work out or haven’t even been in a fight and you think you could handle the average conservative? Lmfao  the average conservative would beat you senseless. 

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Just now, WhiskeyCash said:

Shuuuuuuut the fock up you f@gg0t ass piece of Sh1t. Only think you’d eat is hand across your face. You liberals don’t even work out or haven’t even been in a fight and you think you could handle the average conservative? Lmfao  the average conservative would beat you senseless. 

You don't know who you're focking with.  B1tch I'm 6'3 220 and I do cross fit, cross dress, boxing, I do it all.  I've beaten the piss out of much white racist trash from Charlottesville down to Jacksonville.  I would sh1t in your bloody mouth and then fock it.  All while you're crying for your fat momma to save your punk ass.  

[Hardcore troubadour 12,664]

9 minutes ago, XGay said:

You even look at me crooked and you best apologize, or I'll focking rip you apart and make you beg for me to stop.  I eat maga twirps like you on the daily, lil whiny baby white boy, I'll fock your tonsils and have you begging for more, b1tch.

What a loser Rusty is. Child. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,271]

13 minutes ago, WhiskeyCash said:

B1tch I would straight B1tch slap you. Imagine this liberal piece of Sh1t trying to act like he actually works out, acts like a man, and does things a man should do instead of being the little prissy B1tch that he is  

Rage on, message-board tough guy!

[WhiskeyCash 65]

2 minutes ago, XGay said:

You don't know who you're focking with.  B1tch I'm 6'3 220 and I do cross fit, cross dress, boxing, I do it all.  I've beaten the piss out of much white racist trash from Charlottesville down to Jacksonville.  I would sh1t in your bloody mouth and then fock it.  All while you're crying for your fat momma to save your punk ass.  

Lmfao you don’t do Jack Sh1t. You live in your parents basement, you’re pale as a ghost from no sunlight, you have no muscle, you have no woman, you have no life, and you’re chronically online. YOU are a loser piece of Sh1t and YOU are on full tilt you liberal piece of Sh1t  

[WhiskeyCash 65]

Just now, Pimpadeaux said:

Rage on, message-board tough guy!

You forgot to log back into your alias  

[Pimpadeaux 2,271]

4 minutes ago, XGay said:

You don't know who you're focking with.  B1tch I'm 6'3 220 and I do cross fit, cross dress, boxing, I do it all.  I've beaten the piss out of much white racist trash from Charlottesville down to Jacksonville.  I would sh1t in your bloody mouth and then fock it.  All while you're crying for your fat momma to save your punk ass.  

Alias of the year!

[WhiskeyCash 65]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

What a loser Rusty is. Child. 

He’s a big loser. Everyone knows Rusty is not only a liar but he’s also a little punk ass B1tch

[WhiskeyCash 65]

Just now, Pimpadeaux said:

Alias of the year!

Look at this guy hyping up his own alias

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Just now, WhiskeyCash said:

Lmfao you don’t do Jack Sh1t. You live in your parents basement, you’re pale as a ghost from no sunlight, you have no muscle, you have no woman, you have no life, and you’re chronically online. YOU are a loser piece of Sh1t and YOU are on full tilt you liberal piece of Sh1t  

Wanna meet up?  Stand behind your words?  You wanna threaten gays, I'll show you what a real gay man is made of you lil b1tch.

[WhiskeyCash 65]

Just now, XGay said:

Wanna meet up?  Stand behind your words?  You wanna threaten gays, I'll show you what a real gay man is made of you lil b1tch.

No I will not have sex with you you f@gg0t ass d1ck sucker

My God this is an angry homo

[Mr. Panties 56]

2 minutes ago, WhiskeyCash said:

Lmfao you don’t do Jack Sh1t. You live in your parents basement, you’re pale as a ghost from no sunlight, you have no muscle, you have no woman, you have no life, and you’re chronically online. YOU are a loser piece of Sh1t and YOU are on full tilt you liberal piece of Sh1t  

All this repressed hom0sexuality is making me moist.

[WhiskeyCash 65]

Just now, Mr. Panties said:

All this repressed hom0sexuality is making me moist.

Another alias how many of these do you have???? Matter of fact, who creates THAT many emails and THAT many handles just so they can like their own posts and hype their own posts up

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1 minute ago, WhiskeyCash said:

No I will not have sex with you you f@gg0t ass d1ck sucker

My God this is an angry homo

That's what I thought, punk ass b1tch.  keep your mouth shut skinny little trump white boy

[GutterBoy 2,281]

Just now, WhiskeyCash said:

Another alias how many of these do you have???? Matter of fact, who creates THAT many emails and THAT many handles just so they can like their own posts and hype their own posts up

Maybe we should ask -vyse-

[WhiskeyCash 65]

Just now, XGay said:

That's what I thought, punk ass b1tch.  keep your mouth shut skinny little trump white boy

“ThAtS wHaT i ThOuGhT” shut the fock up you dumb ass piece of Sh1t

[WhiskeyCash 65]

Just now, GutterBoy said:

Maybe we should ask -vyse-

That another one of your aliases?

[Hardcore troubadour 12,664]

Just now, GutterBoy said:

Maybe we should ask -vyse-

This guy bringing up an alias. Imagine being such a loser twenty years ago and making up a boatload of them?