Cancel Bud Light! Maga Hissy Fit!

[Horseman 2,353]

1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

You seriously don't see why it's a terrible comparison?  I'm talking about being loyal to a specific brand and then no longer using it because they upset you.  None of what you have said is similar.

Right.  I knew it.

A very large segment of the population doesn't even drink beer (as compared to milk or shampoo), let alone have any brand loyalty to it.  Even more of a segment of the population doesn't drink beer regularity, but when they do, would choose a different brand now because of the faggots they put on the can (gasp!).  Even a larger segment drinks beer without much brand loyalty as long as it's a lager or whatever type they prefer, and again because of the fagggots will choose a different brand (gasp!).   We've circled right back to your idiocy of thinking there is some underlying brand loyalty with the majority of beer drinkers where there is not. 

Get out more, try different things, support brands that are local or that promote things you support. 

[Hawkeye21 2,380]

4 minutes ago, Strike said:

It's actually not.  And if enough people were committed to it then someone would start making those same products here or in another country without the issues China presents.  A lot of companies have actually opened manufacturing plants in other Asian countries where it is similarly cheap to produce product, as a hedge against the volatility surrounding China.  But most people aren't THAT committed to their "causes." 

How many products are 100% made from components that are not from China?  It's getting better but still hard to find.

[MDC 7,113]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

A very large segment of the population doesn't even drink beer (as compared to milk or shampoo), let alone have any brand loyalty to it.  

More people drink shampoo than beer? C’mon.  

[RLLD 4,143]

35 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

That was also pretty stupid.  Bunch of babies.

Yep. They all need to stop pandering to the fringes

[Strike 5,182]

Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

How many products are 100% made from components that are not from China?  It's getting better but still hard to find.

I don't know.  I'm not even minimally committed to most "causes" so why would I care? 

[Hawkeye21 2,380]

3 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Right.  I knew it.

A very large segment of the population doesn't even drink beer (as compared to milk or shampoo), let alone have any brand loyalty to it.  Even more of a segment of the population doesn't drink beer regularity, but when they do, would choose a different brand now because of the faggots they put on the can (gasp!).  Even a larger segment drinks beer without much brand loyalty as long as it's a lager or whatever type they prefer, and again because of the fagggots will choose a different brand (gasp!).   We've circled right back to your idiocy of thinking there is some underlying brand loyalty with the majority of beer drinkers where there is not. 

Get out more, try different things, support brands that are local or that promote things you support. 

Maybe it's just my area but I've already said, there is extreme brand loyalty to beer here.  I think there are more people loyal to a beer brand than you think.

[Hawkeye21 2,380]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

Yep. They all need to stop pandering to the fringes

The fringes are the loudest and therefore they cater to them the most.  It's a shame.  People suck.

[Engorgeous George 2,121]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

Yep. They all need to stop pandering to the fringes

Is that a new term for trannies?  I will have to check the urban dictionary.  If it is not, it maybe should be.  

[Hawkeye21 2,380]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

I don't know.  I'm not even minimally committed to most "causes" so why would I care? 

That's kind of my point.  Is it worth caring about that much?

[RLLD 4,143]

5 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

The fringes are the loudest and therefore they cater to them the most.  It's a shame.  People suck.

Right now I might suggest that being the loudest is being less damaging to Bud than the rest of us who have the $$

If Bud were to end this nonsense right now....were to 180 and declare men are men and women are women and thats it, and apologize.... their revenues would focking soar...

[Horseman 2,353]

1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Maybe it's just my area but I've already said, there is extreme brand loyalty to beer here.  I think there are more people loyal to a beer brand than you think.

You need to get out more.  

3 minutes ago, MDC said:

More people drink shampoo than beer? C’mon.  

Ha ha.

You don't think women are particular about their hair products.  I can't think of a better example of brand loyalty. AND YET they still switch brands all the time trying to find something better, cost never comes into the equation.  It's a really stupid argument.  

[Strike 5,182]

2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

That's kind of my point.  Is it worth caring about that much?

You're the one making the assertion that it's near impossible to boycott products from China.  So you should support that assertion.  But even if someone can't boycott products containing ANYTHING from China in it, they can minimize how much from China is in the products they do buy.  Not doing anything and just throwing up their hands because there might be a LITTLE China in their products is just being lazy and uncommitted to their "cause." 

[Hawkeye21 2,380]

2 minutes ago, Horseman said:

You need to get out more.

I could argue the same.

[TimHauck 2,598]

I still maintain that no one probably cares about this if it doesn’t happen a few days after the Nashville shooting which apparently made it OK to be anti-trans.

I kinda understand the complaints against Mulvaney doing ads for Nike or makeup if people want to use the “they’re trying to erase women” line.  Or when people were mad at Crocs for sponsoring a kids drag show or whatever it was.  But those companies really haven’t gotten much backlash even after being anti-trans has become acceptable despite there being easy substitutes for those products too.  The backlash seems to be mostly focused on Bud Light, who was really just trying to promote inclusion.

Definitely odd.  But I don’t really care what other people do with their money.

[Horseman 2,353]

7 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

That's kind of my point.  Is it worth caring about that much?

It's a stupid point.

1 hour ago, Horseman said:

Let me help:  Its not life changing to go 24" further down the beer aisle to pick up a different brand. 

 

[Horseman 2,353]

5 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I could argue the same.

You could, but you don't have the evidence that I do:

14 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Maybe it's just my area but I've already said, there is extreme brand loyalty to beer here.

It would be doubling down on stupid.  

[RLLD 4,143]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I still maintain that no one probably cares about this if it doesn’t happen a few days after the Nashville shooting which apparently made it OK to be anti-trans.

I kinda understand the complaints against Mulvaney doing ads for Nike or makeup if people want to use the “they’re trying to erase women” line.  Or when people were mad at Crocs for sponsoring a kids drag show or whatever it was.  But those companies really haven’t gotten much backlash even after being anti-trans has become acceptable despite there being easy substitutes for those products too.  The backlash seems to be mostly focused on Bud Light, who was really just trying to promote inclusion.

Definitely odd.  But I don’t really care what other people do with their money.

I might suggest that alone the embracing of the nonsense of changing ones biology and then compelling others to play along was a key part of it to be sure, but the real force behind this seems to be emanating from the way that VP explained the decision, which seems to be condecending....which is essentially how liberals communicate.... and people decided enough is enough

Heinerscheid’s “big miss was I don’t think she understood who the core Bud Light shopper was. When she came out with her comments, they were deemed as being derogatory, insulting and juvenile. And the Bud Light drinkers said ‘Enough of that,’” Williams told the Post-Dispatch.

[Strike 5,182]

6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I still maintain that no one probably cares about this if it doesn’t happen a few days after the Nashville shooting which apparently made it OK to be anti-trans.

I kinda understand the complaints against Mulvaney doing ads for Nike or makeup if people want to use the “they’re trying to erase women” line.  Or when people were mad at Crocs for sponsoring a kids drag show or whatever it was.  But those companies really haven’t gotten much backlash even after being anti-trans has become acceptable despite there being easy substitutes for those products too.  The backlash seems to be mostly focused on Bud Light, who was really just trying to promote inclusion.

Definitely odd.  But I don’t really care what other people do with their money.

No one is anti trans.  FFS.

[Horseman 2,353]

1 hour ago, Horseman said:

We understand you, it's just incredibly stupid. It's a pattern of yours. Your tiny brain derives a point that everyone else sees as idiotic, then you spend countless post trying to explain it. 

[Bert 1,128]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

I still maintain that no one probably cares about this if it doesn’t happen a few days after the Nashville shooting which apparently made it OK to be anti-trans.

I kinda understand the complaints against Mulvaney doing ads for Nike or makeup if people want to use the “they’re trying to erase women” line.  Or when people were mad at Crocs for sponsoring a kids drag show or whatever it was.  But those companies really haven’t gotten much backlash even after being anti-trans has become acceptable despite there being easy substitutes for those products too.  The backlash seems to be mostly focused on Bud Light, who was really just trying to promote inclusion.

Definitely odd.  But I don’t really care what other people do with their money.

It's very simply failed marketing.  This virtue signaling executive millennial forgot rule number 1 in marketing, know your audience (ie customer base).  If this had been for bud light seltzer it is no big deal.  But no she chooses to demean women and forgot the customer base for bud light is mostly red necks and frat boys.  

[GutterBoy 2,898]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

No one is anti trans.  FFS.

Are you focking kidding me?  No one thinks it's a mental disorder, and these people are sick perverts and need there are only two sexes, and you can't just decide to change your sex?  No one thinks this.

come on man.

[TimHauck 2,598]

2 minutes ago, Strike said:

No one is anti trans.  FFS.

 No one?

[GutterBoy 2,898]

2 minutes ago, Horseman said:

bro laughs at his own posts.  Probably jerks off to a video of himself jerking off.

[seafoam1 2,797]

One thing learned from this thread is that for  hawkeye21, changing his light beer of choice would be life changing.

Oh, and that if a company stands for something he doesn't agree with in life, he will continue to support their business til the end because he wouldn't want to come across looking soft to strangers on the internet. Even though being soft has nothing to do with anything when it comes to choosing how a person spends their money.

And guttervomit thinks he's making some impact on the conversation by saying he will make fun of you if you don't support bud light and all the tranny pushers in America.

Boy, that is some threat. 

[Strike 5,182]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

 No one?

Ok not literally no one.  Certainly there are anti trans people in the world.  But this isn't about anti trans.  Suggesting that shows a great misunderstanding of this situation.

[TimHauck 2,598]

6 minutes ago, RLLD said:

I might suggest that alone the embracing of the nonsense of changing ones biology and then compelling others to play along was a key part of it to be sure, but the real force behind this seems to be emanating from the way that VP explained the decision, which seems to be condecending....which is essentially how liberals communicate.... and people decided enough is enough

Heinerscheid’s “big miss was I don’t think she understood who the core Bud Light shopper was. When she came out with her comments, they were deemed as being derogatory, insulting and juvenile. And the Bud Light drinkers said ‘Enough of that,’” Williams told the Post-Dispatch.

I don’t care enough to check, but I’m pretty sure her comments didn’t go viral until several days after the hysteria had begun

[Horseman 2,353]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

bro laughs at his own posts.  Probably jerks off to a video of himself jerking off.

The dummies are so predictable.  It's like Hauck spending all day arguing semantics, or you jumping in to offer a homophobic comment.  

[Hawkeye21 2,380]

1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

One thing learned from this thread is that for  hawkeye21, changing his light beer of choice would be life changing.

Oh, and that if a company stands for something he doesn't agree with in life, he will continue to support their business til the end because he wouldn't want to come across looking soft to strangers on the internet. Even though being soft has nothing to do with anything when it comes to choosing how a person spends their money.

And guttervomit thinks he's making some impact on the conversation by saying he will make fun of you if you don't support bud light and all the tranny pushers in America.

Boy, that is some threat. 

Would you become a fan of a different team if the Bears started sponsoring Mulvaney?

[Nomad99 699]

1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Explain how the ad is literally being shoved in your face.  I'm curious to hear why you think this.

Because her, his, it's face is on the can...

[Hawkeye21 2,380]

Just now, Nomad99 said:

Because her, his, it's face is on the can...

These cans were not released to the general public.

[Sean Mooney 1,935]

30 minutes ago, MDC said:

More people drink shampoo than beer? C’mon.  

That would certainly explain why he is so dopey if the dude is drinking shampoo on the regular. 

[seafoam1 2,797]

9 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Would you become a fan of a different team if the Bears started sponsoring Mulvaney?

I would be very turned off by it and would probably be much less interested in supporting them as a fan. But I wouldn't become a fan of another team. That crap just turns me off and I would naturally turn away from it. I'm not that shallow that I have nothing else in life to put my time towards. 

As a matter of fact, I was the Bears' biggest fan for them passing on Carter this year in the draft. 

[MDC 7,113]

6 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

I’m not that shallow that I have nothing else in life to put my time towards. 

WOW!   

[Hawkeye21 2,380]

16 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

One thing learned from this thread is that for  hawkeye21, changing his light beer of choice would be life changing.

I never said it was life changing.  I said people were making changes in their life.  There's a difference.

[TimHauck 2,598]

21 minutes ago, Bert said:

It's very simply failed marketing.  This virtue signaling executive millennial forgot rule number 1 in marketing, know your audience (ie customer base).  If this had been for bud light seltzer it is no big deal.  But no she chooses to demean women and forgot the customer base for bud light is mostly red necks and frat boys.  

Meh, I’m sure the anticipated response was that righties wouldn’t even see it, and maybe a few 21+ year olds that follow Mulvaney might be convinced to try Bud Light. 

As discussed in this thread, it’s not like they stopped marketing to their existing customer base.

Based on the VP’s comments, she knew their audience.  But sales had been declining so she was trying to grow that audience.  Again, if not for the Nashville shooting I don’t think anyone cares about this and maybe that actually happens.  But things played out differently and looks like they (at least temporarily) have lost more customers than they gained, especially now that trans people seem to be mad too.

[seafoam1 2,797]

2 minutes ago, MDC said:

WOW!   

20+ years and how many 10s of thousands of posts later mdcrotch?

[jerryskids 6,550]

34 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Maybe it's just my area but I've already said, there is extreme brand loyalty to beer here.  I think there are more people loyal to a beer brand than you think.

I wonder if the beer companies are learning that this loyalty is not as strong as people think.  I've often heard people say "Bud Light is great, Coors Light sucks$%##!" or vice versa, and thought... really, you think there is that much of a difference?  They all taste more or less the same to me, and I'm not a fan of that taste, so I just don't drink them.  Anyway, this Mulvaney thing happens and Bud Light Drinker says "barkeep, Ima try that Coors Light!"  and thinks hmm... this ain't so bad.  And we have another convert. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,910]

As far as Kid Rock goes, All Summer Long is an awesome song. You’re a dik if you don’t like it and probably played video games in your youth. 

[Hawkeye21 2,380]

2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I wonder if the beer companies are learning that this loyalty is not as strong as people think.  I've often heard people say "Bud Light is great, Coors Light sucks$%##!" or vice versa, and thought... really, you think there is that much of a difference?  They all taste more or less the same to me, and I'm not a fan of that taste, so I just don't drink them.  Anyway, this Mulvaney thing happens and Bud Light Drinker says "barkeep, Ima try that Coors Light!"  and thinks hmm... this ain't so bad.  And we have another convert. 

I know lots of people who say there's a huge difference between Busch Light and Bud Light and prefer one over the other.  I prefer Busch Light but don't really care that much.  I can tell the difference between most of the light beers and Miller Lite is the one I dislike the most.  When we have a family gathering I know I need to have Busch Light, Coors Light and Michelobe Ultra based on the people coming over.  There are so many people that call light beers real beer and craft beer ghay.  Beer like Busch Light are have a reputation as being for blue collared, hard working people.  It's a culture thing in the Midwest and rural areas.  I've seen people be the same way with their whiskey and other booze.

[Hawkeye21 2,380]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

As far as Kid Rock goes, All Summer Long is an awesome song. You’re a dik if you don’t like it and probably played video games in your youth. 

What if I like the song and played video games in my youth?