Cancel Bud Light! Maga Hissy Fit!

[seafoam1 3,072]

How old and stuck in life does one have to be for a change of light beer to be impacting in any way?

And even if it is impacting to someone's life and they make the change, good for them. 

This country doesn't need mental illness being normalized by a major corporation and blindly supported for it. 

Our culture is a big deal to me. So I hope bud light learns a real tough lesson and fails in their business because of this move.

[seafoam1 3,072]

10 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I never said it was life changing.  I said people were making changes in their life.  There's a difference.

Good for them.

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

Just now, seafoam1 said:

How old and stuck in life does one have to be for a change of light beer to be impacting in any way?

I don't know if I would go as far as saying "impacting" but like I've been saying, there are some seriously loyal people to their brands and it takes a lot to get them to change.

[seafoam1 3,072]

1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I don't know if I would go as far as saying "impacting" but like I've been saying, there are some seriously loyal people to their brands and it takes a lot to get them to change.

Ok. Then I applaud them for their struggle.

[Mike Hunt 283]

1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

How old and stuck in life does one have to be for a change of light beer to be impacting in any way?

And even if it is impacting to someone's life and they make the change, good for them. 

This country doesn't need mental illness being normalized by a major corporation amd blindly supported for it. 

Our culture is a big deal to me. So I hope bud light learns a real tough lesson and fails in their business because of this move.

AB learned fast they are not Ben & Jerrys. And they made corrections, but it might be too late to save the brand.

It is all about sales and market share.   Had sales stayed level it would have been acceptable.  25% drop is huge in a market where 1-2% make a difference.

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

Just now, Mike Hunt said:

AB learned fast they are not Ben & Jerrys. And they made corrections, but it might be too late to save the brand.

It is all about sales and market share.   Had sales stayed level it would have been acceptable.  25% drop is huge in a market where 1-2% make a difference.

I actually have a customer who's name is Michael Hunt.  Poor guy.

[seafoam1 3,072]

4 minutes ago, Mike Hunt said:

AB learned fast they are not Ben & Jerrys. And they made corrections, but it might be too late to save the brand.

It is all about sales and market share.   Had sales stayed level it would have been acceptable.  25% drop is huge in a market where 1-2% make a difference.

It is huge. And I would love for that to be the front page news. Let the country know about it. Let's all cheer on this failure outwardly, and hell, have parades about it. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,493]

11 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

What if I like the song and played video games in my youth?

That’s not what I claimed. 

[thegeneral 3,237]

51 minutes ago, Horseman said:

2 hours ago, Horseman said:

We understand you, it's just incredibly stupid. It's a pattern of yours. Your tiny brain derives a point that everyone else sees as idiotic, then you spend countless post trying to explain it. 

 

Don’t forget to logout/login with the alias next time

[Bert 1,128]

23 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Meh, I’m sure the anticipated response was that righties wouldn’t even see it, and maybe a few 21+ year olds that follow Mulvaney might be convinced to try Bud Light. 

As discussed in this thread, it’s not like they stopped marketing to their existing customer base.

Based on the VP’s comments, she knew their audience.  But sales had been declining so she was trying to grow that audience.  Again, if not for the Nashville shooting I don’t think anyone cares about this and maybe that actually happens.  But things played out differently and looks like they (at least temporarily) have lost more customers than they gained, especially now that trans people seem to be mad too.

It was a colossal marketing failure.  The executive clearly did not know or understand her customer base.  That was made very evident by her condescending comments after words and why she is on leave.  Her hubris that her ultra progressive views should be accepted by everyone cost her her job and AB 100s of millions.  This will blow over and bud light will survive but it will be a lesson in marketing classrooms for a long time.   

[Horseman 2,476]

22 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I don't know if I would go as far as saying "impacting" but like I've been saying, there are some seriously loyal people to their brands and it takes a lot to get them to change.

 

3 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said:

It doesn't look like some of you are understanding the point of what I'm saying here.  It's the fact that something so silly can affect how you live your life.  

Maybe take a few minutes to get your story straight.  

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

5 minutes ago, Horseman said:

 

Maybe take a few minutes to get your story straight.  

Impact is improper grammar.  There's a huge difference between the two words.

[Horseman 2,476]

8 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Impact is improper grammar.  There's a huge difference between the two words.

Not when used as a verb.

Impact, having a strong effect.

Affect, having an effect on.

You wouldn't go so far as saying it impacts them, but, a few hours earlier you claimed it affected their life.  

You're either dumb as a box of rocks, or you're backtracked to the Haukism of arguing semantics.  Or both.

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

3 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Not when used as a verb.

Impact, having a strong effect.

Affect, having an effect on.

You wouldn't go so far as saying it impacts them, but, a few hours earlier you claimed it affected their life.  

You're either dumb as a box of rocks, or you're backtracked to the Haukism of arguing semantics.  Or both.

You literally just explained why they are different.  Thank you for making yourself look dumb.  I said it affected how they lived their life but I wouldn't go as far to say it impacted it, which would mean it had a strong effect.  Impact has a stronger meaning and is why I said I wouldn't go as far to say it.

You are really trying hard today.

[TimHauck 2,906]

31 minutes ago, Bert said:

It was a colossal marketing failure.  The executive clearly did not know or understand her customer base.  That was made very evident by her condescending comments after words and why she is on leave.  Her hubris that her ultra progressive views should be accepted by everyone cost her her job and AB 100s of millions.  This will blow over and bud light will survive but it will be a lesson in marketing classrooms for a long time.   

Lol, only like 10 people see that interview if not for the Mulvaney hysteria.  Did she make any comments after?  The interview was from before that someone dug up.

And honestly I don’t think the interview was that bad.   The worst was probably the “out of touch humor” comment, which I understood as referring to Bud Light’s marketing, not the consumers.  If someone is offended by being called “fratty” they’re a snowflake.

[seafoam1 3,072]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Lol, only like 10 people see that interview if not for the Mulvaney hysteria.  Did she make any comments after?  The interview was from before that someone dug up.

And honestly I don’t think the interview was that bad.   The worst was probably the “out of touch humor” comment, which I understood as referring to Bud Light’s marketing, not the consumers.  If someone is offended by being called “fratty” they’re a snowflake.

You can try to explain it all away, but if you were the person working at AB trying to defend it all like you are, you would still be fired.

I pray this is not over for bud light. I would love to see them go under and have to start over or simply just retire the whole thing.

[TimHauck 2,906]

2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

You can try to explain it all away, but if you were the person working at AB trying to defend it all like you are, you would still be fired.

I pray this is not over for bud light. I would love to see them go under and have to start over or simply just retire the whole thing.

She should have pulled it after the Nashville shooting.  That was her biggest mistake.

[Bert 1,128]

7 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Lol, only like 10 people see that interview if not for the Mulvaney hysteria.  Did she make any comments after?  The interview was from before that someone dug up.

And honestly I don’t think the interview was that bad.   The worst was probably the “out of touch humor” comment, which I understood as referring to Bud Light’s marketing, not the consumers.  If someone is offended by being called “fratty” they’re a snowflake.

She created the hysteria.  When it blew up her condescending interview came to light making in worse.  She created a marking nightmare for AB.  She didn't pull the ad.  She failed miserably at her job period.  Spin it however you want but she failed on multiple levels. 

[seafoam1 3,072]

17 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

She should have pulled it after the Nashville shooting.  That was her biggest mistake.

The biggest mistake was endorsing tranny culture. Stop it with all the detailing of bits here and there. 

[Horseman 2,476]

30 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

You literally just explained why they are different.  Thank you for making yourself look dumb.  I said it affected how they lived their life but I wouldn't go as far to say it impacted it, which would mean it had a strong effect.  Impact has a stronger meaning and is why I said I wouldn't go as far to say it.

You are really trying hard today.

Taking lessons from Hauck.  

Affected enough for you to have a dozens of posts about it, but no impact!

[Hardcore troubadour 15,493]

I bet bud light will say sales have improved. But leave out they are giving it away.  

[TimHauck 2,906]

1 hour ago, Strike said:

Ok not literally no one.  Certainly there are anti trans people in the world.  But this isn't about anti trans.  Suggesting that shows a great misunderstanding of this situation.

Can you clarify what exactly it IS about?

Kid Rock doesn't say in his video.  Neither does Travis Tritt in his posts.   The rest of the whining that I saw including by guys like John Rich just trying to sell his whiskey brand was mostly just buzzwords about "catering to the woke agenda" and "Bud used to be about 'Murica!" (I guess implying that being trans is not American).

Mulvaney is not telling kids to drink beer as much as RaiderHatersRevenge wants us to believe that.  The "Mulvaney's audience is kids!" claim is a red herring.  I don't know everything that Mulvaney has ever said (and neither do most of the people complaining), but in the ads at least, Mulvaney is not talking about surgeries (and it appears has only gotten facial surgeries), or even encouraging people to turn into the opposite sex.  All the video did was talk about celebrating "365 days as a woman."  If that is the issue, and people's main complaint is "men can't be women," then that is anti-trans.

And if the issue is just the pure fact of partnering with Mulvaney at all, then it's stupid that Bud Light is getting a thousand times more backlash than NIke, or Maybelline, or especially Tampax, or whatever other brands Mulvaney was promoting that are actually for women's products, as opposed to beer which anyone 21+ can drink (which I think was the point of the partnership).

[GutterBoy 2,899]

8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I bet bud light will say sales have improved. But leave out they are giving it away.  

That's called fraud.  I bet they won't do this.

[listen2me 23 1,873]

Why are trannys so wildly overrepresented all of a sudden?   Like in a blink of an eye.  We were always told it is such a small fragment of the population here in America.   

[GutterBoy 2,899]

3 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Why are trannys so wildly overrepresented all of a sudden?   Like in a blink of an eye.  We were always told it is such a small fragment of the population here in America.   

Where do you see them overrepresented?

[seafoam1 3,072]

18 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

Why are trannys so wildly overrepresented all of a sudden?   Like in a blink of an eye.  We were always told it is such a small fragment of the population here in America.   

Are liberals running out of things to claim victimhood about? When does it end? They are represented in the highest office in the nation and yet they are always coming out playing the minority victim. 

[listen2me 23 1,873]

Just now, GutterBoy said:

Where do you see them overrepresented?

The Biden Administration 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,493]

2 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

The Biden Administration 

[Sean Mooney 1,984]

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

As far as Kid Rock goes, All Summer Long is an awesome song. You’re a dik if you don’t like it and probably played video games in your youth. 

Geez that isn't even close to like a top 5 or top 10 of Kid Rock songs.

Not all his fault though- he wasn't the one overplaying it.

[TheNewGirl 1,498]

32 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

people's main complaint is "men can't be women," then that is anti-trans.

 

Explain to me how men can be women. 

If I cut my hair, cut off my boobs, take testosterone to grow a beard...am I a man?  

 

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

5 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Explain to me how men can be women. 

If I cut my hair, cut off my boobs, take testosterone to grow a beard...am I a man?  

 

Who gets to have your boobs then?

[TheNewGirl 1,498]

1 minute ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Who gets to have your boobs then?

Some dude, I suppose. 

[Hawkeye21 2,400]

Just now, TheNewGirl said:

Some dude, I suppose. 

Let the bidding begin!

[listen2me 23 1,873]

Do trans people have to register for the military? Just the trans men right?

[TimHauck 2,906]

5 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Explain to me how men can be women. 

If I cut my hair, cut off my boobs, take testosterone to grow a beard...am I a man?  

 

Well without getting into the science, would you agree that essentially saying "trans people don't exist" would be considered "anti-trans"?

 

 

[Baker Boy 1,703]

AB tried to raise their Environmental, Social, and Governance (ESG) evaluation and it hurt them.

[TheNewGirl 1,498]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

Well without getting into the science, would you agree that essentially saying "trans people don't exist" would be considered "anti-trans"?

 

 

Soooo...you just want to talk about feelings? No science? 

 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

1 minute ago, Baker Boy said:

AB tried to raise their Environmental, Social, and Governance (ESG) evaluation and it hurt them.

What do you mean, raise their ESG evaluation?

[TheNewGirl 1,498]

2 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

AB tried to raise their Environmental, Social, and Governance (ESG) evaluation and it hurt them.

They tried to cater to today's youth. 

[Baker Boy 1,703]

1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

What do you mean, raise their ESG evaluation?

You are trolling, right?