Cancel Bud Light! Maga Hissy Fit!

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

2 hours ago, Bert said:

It was a colossal marketing failure.  The executive clearly did not know or understand her customer base.  That was made very evident by her condescending comments after words and why she is on leave.  Her hubris that her ultra progressive views should be accepted by everyone cost her her job and AB 100s of millions.  This will blow over and bud light will survive but it will be a lesson in marketing classrooms for a long time.   

 

 

"Lesson in marketing classroom"?

When a company like this loses millions upon millions of dollars, what about the impact of the projectible lost jobs for the rank and file everyday Americans who had absolutely nothing to do with any of this? 

This is what was said to Heinerscheid on the day she was hired -

"Congratulations, Alissa Gordon Heinerscheid, on your new role as VP at Bud Light, and for becoming the first woman to lead the largest beer brand in the industry.  #RepresentationMatters and I can't wait to see the impact you'll have leading this 40-year-old brand! Now, pass me a cold one. "

This is her idiotic statement -

“I am a businesswoman. I had a really clear job to do when I took over Bud Light, it was — this brand is in decline. It has been in decline for a very long time. And if we do not attract young drinkers to come and drink this brand, there will be no future for Bud Light.”

Now some woke company or CEO will hire her later, because she fits their agenda. It helps their ESG scores. Someone on the radical left will get her working again.

What about the everyday working class people who will lose their jobs over this? 

What I am describing is also part of the "backlash"  She's a Harvard graduate. There is a clear disdain and myopic indifference by these over educated white college liberals in their little woke bubbles against the working class. Blue collar people just trying to pay their bills and put food on the table for their children. 

The message is pretty clear in my book - The Biden Administration, the DNC, the radical left, the Squad, the establishment Democrats and all their insular entitled cronies don't give a single damn if the working class starves to death in this country. 

[TimHauck 2,918]

2 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Soooo...you just want to talk about feelings? No science? 

 

Is "science" why people are boycotting Bud Light moreso than Nike, Maybelline, or Tampax?  

Sounds like something Fauci would say.

[Strike 5,590]

56 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Can you clarify what exactly it IS about?

Kid Rock doesn't say in his video.  Neither does Travis Tritt in his posts.   The rest of the whining that I saw including by guys like John Rich just trying to sell his whiskey brand was mostly just buzzwords about "catering to the woke agenda" and "Bud used to be about 'Murica!" (I guess implying that being trans is not American).

Mulvaney is not telling kids to drink beer as much as RaiderHatersRevenge wants us to believe that.  The "Mulvaney's audience is kids!" claim is a red herring.  I don't know everything that Mulvaney has ever said (and neither do most of the people complaining), but in the ads at least, Mulvaney is not talking about surgeries (and it appears has only gotten facial surgeries), or even encouraging people to turn into the opposite sex.  All the video did was talk about celebrating "365 days as a woman."  If that is the issue, and people's main complaint is "men can't be women," then that is anti-trans.

And if the issue is just the pure fact of partnering with Mulvaney at all, then it's stupid that Bud Light is getting a thousand times more backlash than NIke, or Maybelline, or especially Tampax, or whatever other brands Mulvaney was promoting that are actually for women's products, as opposed to beer which anyone 21+ can drink (which I think was the point of the partnership).

Here's a whole thread about what it IS about.  I suggest you read through it:

 

[TheNewGirl 1,498]

6 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Is "science" why people are boycotting Bud Light moreso than Nike, Maybelline, or Tampax?  

Sounds like something Fauci would say.

So you really don't want to have a conversation about how a man can become a woman?

I could give a rats ass why people are boycotting.  

I want you to tell me how a man can be a woman; apparently without using science. 

[TimHauck 2,918]

3 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

I could give a rats ass why people are boycotting.  

Well this was the question I was asking to the group.  Answer that, and I'll answer yours.

[GutterBoy 2,899]

12 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

You are trolling, right?

Oh what happened?  You used some buzzwords you don't understand incorrectly?

[Engorgeous George 2,331]

3 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I don't know if I would go as far as saying "impacting" but like I've been saying, there are some seriously loyal people to their brands and it takes a lot to get them to change.

Tareyton cigarettes actually had that featured in an ad campaign.  "I'd rather fight than switch".

[TheNewGirl 1,498]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Well this was the question I was asking to the group.  Answer that, and I'll answer yours.

Answer what, why people are boycotting? 

Could be a number of reasons; assuming that they don't like seeing a man dressed as a woman on their marketing. If I stereotype the "average" Bud drinker, it's probably a conservative man. I'd ASSUME that's why. 

I am not boycotting Bud light, because I don't drink it, or beer for that matter. I am not boycotting Tampax, because I don't use tampons anyways. I am not boycotting Maybelline because I don't use their products and haven't for years; they make shiiitty make up. I am not boycotting KitchenAid (I think that's another one Dylan is a part of) because I don't need to really buy any kitchen appliances. 

I haven't bought Nike stuff in years because I sort of boycott for other reasons - they treat their female athletes like shiiite and have for a long time before Dylan came into the picture. They also make cr@ppy running shoes. 

 

There ya go. Anything else? 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,510]

36 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

AB tried to raise their Environmental, Social, and Governance (ESG) evaluation and it hurt them.

Yup

[Hardcore troubadour 15,510]

I do my best to not buy Nike.  For years it was due to child labor.  Then it was reinforced due to Kaepernick.  

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

15 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Answer what, why people are boycotting? 

Could be a number of reasons; assuming that they don't like seeing a man dressed as a woman on their marketing. If I stereotype the "average" Bud drinker, it's probably a conservative man. I'd ASSUME that's why. 

 

 

Your question is a very good question. 

My best guess is lots of people are "tired of it all" Now Bud Light and AB might simply be caught in the wrong place and wrong time for them. I used to have a college class long ago, where the professor was a stickler for people being on time. So almost every day, the same three people were late. My best guess is it was their work schedules, etc, etc. So the first person would show up late, the professor would be clearly irritated. The second person would be late, then the professor would start to show open anger. Then the third person, same guy, would show up late, probably fighting traffic to get to class, and the professor would always unload on them. 

So it might not all be Bud Light, but the product of years and years of poor white rural Christian American men being vilified and spit on again and again. In the MSM, in movies, on TV, in music, in mainstream books, on podcast, in advertising, in sports - there's no escape. Sometimes people have a hard day at work and just want to go home and watch a movie. Or a football game. And not have politics shoved in their face. Or be told constantly they need to be ashamed of themselves for crimes committed long ago by other people. 

The Democratic Party never really bothered with poor white rural Christian American males before. Most of them didn't vote, so they weren't a threat. However they mobilized in force in the 2016 and 2020 general election cycles. The DNC made a calculated bet in the past. They'd focus their time and resources into other groups, to try to win and buy their votes. Women. LGBT. African Americans, etc, etc. It was a risk versus reward decision. Now Team Blue has buyers remorse. They didn't invest in this group, and now the voting block is large enough and active enough to hurt them in elections. So hence the constant bombardment and demonizing. 

The radical left were too arrogant to understand that the "cancel culture" might flip all the way back around on them at some point. That they could be demonetized just like they attempted to end the careers and businesses of many others for "wrong think" 

The established Democrats openly declared a culture war on the working class. Well, they kept begging for it, now they have it. And this is the cost. Doom on them. 

[TheNewGirl 1,498]

5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I do my best to not buy Nike.  For years it was due to child labor.  Then it was reinforced due to Kaepernick.  

I think it's dumb to ask why people boycott. 

It could be any number of reasons.

Speaking specifically to this issue for Bud Light and why people boycotted them SUDDENLY after a man in women's clothing and make up was on one of their cans....then YES, that's probably the reason for the RECENT boycott; there's clearly a correlation. 

But that doesn't mean it's the ONLY reason that these companies are/have been boycotted. Nike has sucked for years is just one example. 

 

ETA: And boycotting because a transfemale is on a can isn't saying "trans people don't exist." It's saying, "This exists and I disagree with it. So I have the control to not buy it." 

[Horseman 2,480]

Hauck getting pwned by a girl.  

[GutterBoy 2,899]

9 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Hauck getting pwned by a girl.  

Because girls are dumb?  Why the qualification?

[GutterBoy 2,899]

24 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Speaking specifically to this issue for Bud Light and why people boycotted them SUDDENLY after a man in women's clothing and make up was on one of their cans....then YES, that's probably the reason for the RECENT boycott; there's clearly a correlation. 

Actually it's not the reason, because no one ever saw a man in women's clothing and make up on one of their cans.

[Gladiators 1,995]

10 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Hauck getting pwned by a girl.  

Not funny.  This is likely the most attention he's ever received from a female.  We should be cheering him on.  

[Horseman 2,480]

6 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Because girls are dumb?  Why the qualification?

No.  Because Hauck is so dumb.  Obviously.  

[GutterBoy 2,899]

1 minute ago, Horseman said:

No.  Because Hauck is so dumb.  Obviously.  

But why does it matter that TNG is a girl?

[listen2me 23 1,874]

Did Tim run away from the question after playing the classic Tim games? There is no way he is actually too busy to argue.  

[TimHauck 2,918]

33 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

Answer what, why people are boycotting? 

Could be a number of reasons; assuming that they don't like seeing a man dressed as a woman on their marketing. If I stereotype the "average" Bud drinker, it's probably a conservative man. I'd ASSUME that's why. 

 

Thank you for somewhat answering.  But yeah, "because they don't like seeing a man dressed as a woman on their marketing" seems to be the main reason.    Or in other words, checking back on some of the earlier pages of the thread, because woke.  Although it still doesn't really make sense that Bud is getting more heat than other products that Mulvaney has promoted that are actually meant for women.  That's the main reason why I think this backlash probably doesn't happen if it wasn't a few days after the Nashville shooting, which made people more open about "not liking seeing a man dressed as a woman."  

 

17 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

ETA: And boycotting because a transfemale is on a can isn't saying "trans people don't exist." It's saying, "This exists and I disagree with it. So I have the control to not buy it." 

I didn't say boycotting it is saying trans people don't exist.   But saying "men can't be women" is.   So to get back to your science question, I really don't care much about trans issues other than agreeing that they should play sports with their biological gender.   But while biologically I"d probably agree "men can't be women," it does seem to be acknowledged that gender dysphoria does exist, so if someone truly believes they are a woman, I don't really care enough to stop them.

[TheNewGirl 1,498]

7 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Actually it's not the reason, because no one ever saw a man in women's clothing and make up on one of their cans.

So what's the reason then? 

They didn't see it in public but they saw it somewhere. Because Dylan made sure people saw it. 

[GutterBoy 2,899]

4 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

So what's the reason then? 

They didn't see it in public but they saw it somewhere. Because Dylan made sure people saw it. 

She put it on her social media, and I'm sure that 99% of bud drinkers don't follow her, so they would have never known.  The only way they learned about it was it spread somehow on SM outside of the tranny circle (like libsoftiktok or other trollers that follow people they hate so they can harass them), and then it was picked up by media, and then once the conservatives made their protest videos, it went viral.

[TheNewGirl 1,498]

1 minute ago, TimHauck said:

 

 

I didn't say boycotting it is saying trans people don't exist.   But saying "men can't be women" is.   So to get back to your science question, I really don't care much about trans issues other than agreeing that they should play sports with their biological gender.   But while biologically I"d probably agree "men can't be women," it does seem to be acknowledged that gender dysphoria does exist, so if someone truly believes they are a woman, I don't really care enough to stop them.

We agree, then. 

You said that you didn't want to get into the science, but mentioning biology...well...biologically you can't really change genders. Regardless of what you do to get there. Without a uterine transplant (and many other factors) men will never have babies. (There are other factors like hormones, blood volume, pelvis size, among other things that would make this a travesty to attempt, IMO). 

Biologically men will never be women. You can't have this discussion without the science. Unfortunately, feelings aren't facts. 

Socially, sure. Do what you want. However, when that begins to infringe on MY rights AS a biological woman, then I have an issue. Sports, using locker rooms, restrooms, etc. Because at that point, any dude can say they are a woman - makes it incredibly dangerous for women. Essentially, removes our safe spaces. Check out articles on allowing transfemales into all female prisons (the incidents of violence and rape are incredibly high). 

 

[TheNewGirl 1,498]

8 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

She put it on her social media, and I'm sure that 99% of bud drinkers don't follow her, so they would have never known.  The only way they learned about it was it spread somehow on SM outside of the tranny circle (like libsoftiktok or other trollers that follow people they hate so they can harass them), and then it was picked up by media, and then once the conservatives made their protest videos, it went viral.

So....social media worked the way that it's designed to? 

I learned about it on the news, I believe. I am not on Tik Tok or Twitter and believe it or not, I don't follow any political folks on my other social sites. 

I did however mention Dylan to my daughter and she knew exactly who I was talking about...not sure how they'd show up in her feed or whatever. 

[TimHauck 2,918]

8 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

We agree, then. 

You said that you didn't want to get into the science, but mentioning biology...well...biologically you can't really change genders. Regardless of what you do to get there. Without a uterine transplant (and many other factors) men will never have babies. (There are other factors like hormones, blood volume, pelvis size, among other things that would make this a travesty to attempt, IMO). 

Biologically men will never be women. You can't have this discussion without the science. Unfortunately, feelings aren't facts. 

Socially, sure. Do what you want. However, when that begins to infringe on MY rights AS a biological woman, then I have an issue. Sports, using locker rooms, restrooms, etc. Because at that point, any dude can say they are a woman - makes it incredibly dangerous for women. Essentially, removes our safe spaces. Check out articles on allowing transfemales into all female prisons (the incidents of violence and rape are incredibly high). 

 

OK, so I know you don't drink beer, but would you say that Bud Light is infringing on your rights as a biological woman by sending Mulvaney some beer?

[TheNewGirl 1,498]

5 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

OK, so I know you don't drink beer, but would you say that Bud Light is infringing on your rights as a biological woman by sending Mulvaney some beer?

What point are you trying to get at? 

I've answered all of your questions, but CLEARLY there's something here you want me to admit - what is it? 

[TimHauck 2,918]

6 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

What point are you trying to get at? 

I've answered all of your questions, but CLEARLY there's something here you want me to admit - what is it? 

Well you didn't answer that last one...

And I answered your questions.

My initial question was not necessarily directed at you, I am mainly trying to get clarity on why people think this particular boycott gained so much steam, especially when you consider that Mulvaney has promoted other easily replaceable products that were actually meant for women, and I'm sure other trannies have sponsorships too.     That's why I keep reiterating that I think it has more to do with the timing of coming shortly after the Nashville shooting, but some posters here (not necessarily you) seem to be denying that the Nashville shooting resulted in an increase in anti-trans sentiment.

[TheNewGirl 1,498]

3 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

 

My initial question was not necessarily directed at you, I am mainly trying to get clarity on why people think this particular boycott gained so much steam, especially when you consider that Mulvaney has promoted other easily replaceable products that were actually meant for women, and I'm sure other trannies have sponsorships too.     That's why I keep reiterating that I think it has more to do with the timing of coming shortly after the Nashville shooting, but some posters here (not necessarily you) seem to be denying that the Nashville shooting resulted in an increase in anti-trans sentiment.

I am sure that there may be some correlation between the two incidents  but I think it's doubtful you will get a good answer, or know for sure. Could be just a matter of timing that these two things happened. 

 

[paulinstl 296]

Pretty sure that anybody who says "woke' in a conversation is somebody to avoid.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,510]

Gutterboy thinks Mulvaney is a woman.  Lol. 

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

1 hour ago, GutterBoy said:

Actually it's not the reason, because no one ever saw a man in women's clothing and make up on one of their cans.

 

Bud Light To Give A FREE Case Of Beer To Every Wholesale Employee As It Begs For Forgiveness After Dylan Mulvaney Fiasco, As Expert Warns Firm’s ‘Compass Is Broken’

Bud Light has resorted to handing out free beer as the brand’s efforts to squash the backlash to its Dylan Mulvaney become increasingly desperate. Bosses have also promised to boost marketing spending and ramp up ad production after an industry expert said Bud’s ‘compass is completely broken’ over its failure to deal with the fallout. Sales of Bud Light are in free fall after its disastrous partnership with Mulvaney, 26, which was announced in March. The controversial trans influencer was sent a can with her face on it to celebrate a year since she transitioned from male to female.....

....Anheuser-Busch, the beer’s parent company and America’s largest brewer, said it will hand a free case over beer to every employee of its wholesaler network – which consists of many family-run businesses who’ve been badly hurt by the scandal.....Bump Williams, the founder of the firm, said Bud Light must apologize and added: ‘Right now their compass is completely broken. There’s no game plan.’...

https://kastown.com/bud-light-to-give-a-free-case-of-beer-to-every-wholesale-employee-as-it-begs-for-forgiveness-after-dylan-mulvaney-fiasco-as-expert-warns-firms-compass-is-broken/

 

*******

Something you keep refusing to acknowledge is that many working class people will likely suffer financially or lose their jobs over this self inflicted fiasco. 

You are attempting to create a blanket defense of businesses infusing politics into their brand in terms of customer engagement. That makes no sense at all. It's financial suicide. You are attempting to normalize the pathway where many average every day working class people will lose their jobs and can't feed their kids. 

[Horseman 2,480]

5 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

She put it on her social media, and I'm sure that 99% of bud drinkers don't follow her, so they would have never known.  The only way they learned about it was it spread somehow on SM outside of the tranny circle (like libsoftiktok or other trollers that follow people they hate so they can harass them), and then it was picked up by media, and then once the conservatives made their protest videos, it went viral.

Bro doesn’t know how social media works.

And you got smacked by a girl.

[jerryskids 6,838]

5 hours ago, TimHauck said:

Well you didn't answer that last one...

And I answered your questions.

My initial question was not necessarily directed at you, I am mainly trying to get clarity on why people think this particular boycott gained so much steam, especially when you consider that Mulvaney has promoted other easily replaceable products that were actually meant for women, and I'm sure other trannies have sponsorships too.     That's why I keep reiterating that I think it has more to do with the timing of coming shortly after the Nashville shooting, but some posters here (not necessarily you) seem to be denying that the Nashville shooting resulted in an increase in anti-trans sentiment.

I'll help on a few things here:

1. You've answered your own question with the "products actually meant for women," Bud Light is meant for men.  Or it was.  Women have largely given up the rights they've fought for throughout all of US history, and most of those who haven't are afraid to take on the woke mafia, and the few who aren't are canceled by said mafia.  Men, don't care as much.

2. You seem to desperately want some validation for your Nashville shooting hypothesis, since you've mentioned it a bazillion times.  So here you go:  good hypothesis Tim, could be. 

3. You are back in Tucker "just asking questions" mode.  If you have something to say then say it.

[jerryskids 6,838]

6 hours ago, GutterBoy said:

She put it on her social media, and I'm sure that 99% of bud drinkers don't follow her, so they would have never known.  The only way they learned about it was it spread somehow on SM outside of the tranny circle (like libsoftiktok or other trollers that follow people they hate so they can harass them), and then it was picked up by media, and then once the conservatives made their protest videos, it went viral.

Yeah that's it, LibsofTikTok, bastion of evil.   Has it occurred to you that Mulvaney has a lot of followers, so if they put it on their SM, that's not a really good way to keep their secret from the ultraubersupermagatards. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,510]

The United States Navy has employed a trans gender spokesperson. Yeah, it’s not being shoved in everyone’s face. GTFO. 

[Horseman 2,480]

How did the secret not stay safe after we posted it on social media!!!!!!!!

[TimHauck 2,918]

5 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I'll help on a few things here:

1. You've answered your own question with the "products actually meant for women," Bud Light is meant for men.  Or it was.  Women have largely given up the rights they've fought for throughout all of US history, and most of those who haven't are afraid to take on the woke mafia, and the few who aren't are canceled by said mafia.  Men, don't care as much.

2. You seem to desperately want some validation for your Nashville shooting hypothesis, since you've mentioned it a bazillion times.  So here you go:  good hypothesis Tim, could be. 

3. You are back in Tucker "just asking questions" mode.  If you have something to say then say it.

Lol, women have largely given up the rights they’ve fought for throughout US history because of some trans people?  C’mon jerry, you’re better than this.

[GutterBoy 2,899]

17 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Yeah that's it, LibsofTikTok, bastion of evil.   Has it occurred to you that Mulvaney has a lot of followers, so if they put it on their SM, that's not a really good way to keep their secret from the ultraubersupermagatards. 

Do you understand that the mulvaney haters don't follow her?  Obviously it wasn't meant to be a secret.

[Patented Phil 1,469]

Goddamm I forgot how annoying @TimHauck is. I honestly think the dude gets off on arguing. 

[Horseman 2,480]

8 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Do you understand that the mulvaney haters don't follow her?  Obviously it wasn't meant to be a secret.

Let me help you out since you're internet challenged. IT guy.

Its not just his followers, it the followers followers everytime it liked or retweeted, perpetually. 

A social media campaign relies on that fact. Saying "it somehow spread outside the tranny circle" is metal helmet level stupid.