Florida LGBTQ group cancels Pride parade when told it must be adults only

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On 4/22/2023 at 5:42 AM, GutterBoy said:

How would you explain the fact that 66% of sexual predators are heterosexual?

 

 

[GutterBoy 2,900]

8 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

 

 

Yeah I was way off and corrected.  It's more like 1%.

Which makes me point even stronger.

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20 hours ago, avoiding injuries said:

Oh my. This is a worse ratio than the blacks/violent crimes statistics. I’m guessing that wasn’t the intent of posting this, but man, that is focking crazy. 

Weird that you guys understand that, but not vaccine effectiveness

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On 4/23/2023 at 9:51 AM, lickin_starfish said:

I'm not scared of fhags, I just think you guys are weird. Do what you want, just leave kids alone.

They cannot just leave kids alone. The gays can't reproduce, so to grow their numbers they have to take your kids away from the normals group.

This is key on their agenda. If they don't get the kids while they are young, the gay numbers will always be small and their voice will never be as big as they want it.

So they flat out have a mission  to turn normal kids into non-normals just like they are. 

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I don’t agree with this guy entirely,  but his premise that the ideology is toxic is spot on.  You don’t have to be a Bible thumper to agree with him
 

 

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1 hour ago, League Champion said:

 

They look very oppressed. And starving. 

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On 4/22/2023 at 8:33 AM, dogcows said:

Jesus ate with a prostitute but today’s Christians condemn LGBTQ people. Jesus condemned the moralistic Pharisees, who today’s Christians resemble more and more. Jesus eschewed political power and said his kingdom is not of this world, but today’s Christians seek greedily after political power. If today’s Christians really followed Jesus, they would speak to LGBTQ people, not pass laws attacking them.

Most Christians do interact with LGBTQ people. For many, every day. I would hope that in doing so, they are kind. I don't know any of my Christian friends that wouldn't be kind, but I am sure there are some who are not. 

But, if you are suggesting Jesus would attend a Pride parade, you couldn't be more wrong. He didn't celebrate behavior that went against the will of God- he called people to repentance. And, Christians that don't want to celebrate something they see as perverse and very much against the will of God are not somehow condemning in doing so. 

As for seeking political power, I guess that's one way to look at it. As I have said before, the progressive agenda is to wipe out conservatism in America. Perhaps trying to keep up in that arena is the only way a Christian person can feel that he is standing his/her ground in the midst of that agenda. 

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26 minutes ago, Fumbleweed said:

Most Christians do interact with LGBTQ people. For many, every day. I would hope that in doing so, they are kind. I don't know any of my Christian friends that wouldn't be kind, but I am sure there are some who are not. 

But, if you are suggesting Jesus would attend a Pride parade, you couldn't be more wrong. He didn't celebrate behavior that went against the will of God- he called people to repentance. And, Christians that don't want to celebrate something they see as perverse and very much against the will of God are not somehow condemning in doing so. 

As for seeking political power, I guess that's one way to look at it. As I have said before, the progressive agenda is to wipe out conservatism in America. Perhaps trying to keep up in that arena is the only way a Christian person can feel that he is standing his/her ground in the midst of that agenda. 

Many sects of Christianity today do NOT consider homosexuality to be a sin. It is seldom mentioned, especially in the New Testament... other than in some lists of “bad stuff” which are questionably attributed to Jesus, if you ask me.

Even so, I don’t know that Jesus would attend a pride parade. But, I believe he wouldn’t run for office and then make such displays illegal.

Evangelicals are losing ground. America has fewer and fewer religious people every year. In my opinion, if they forgot all about their political aspirations, they might have a chance at salvaging things. Unfortunately, they’ve gone all in on “if you’re not Republican, you’re not Christian.” And that’s a losing strategy for both groups.

Jesus didn’t force people to do anything. Today’s evangelicals should realize that “hearts and minds” is a far more effective tactic than legislating morality. The 50-year push to ban abortion is backfiring spectacularly. If they think abortion (or anything else) is wrong, they should preach against it, not legislate against it. 

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1 minute ago, dogcows said:

Many sects of Christianity today do NOT consider homosexuality to be a sin. It is seldom mentioned, especially in the New Testament... other than in some lists of “bad stuff” which are questionably attributed to Jesus, if you ask me.

I don’t know that Jesus would attend a pride parade. But I do know he wouldn’t run for office and then make such displays illegal.

Evangelicals are losing ground. America has fewer and fewer religious people every year. In my opinion, if they forgot all about their political aspirations, they might have a chance at salvaging things. Unfortunately, they’ve gone all in on “if you’re not Republican, you’re not Christian.” And that’s a losing strategy for both groups.

Jesus didn’t force people to do anything. Today’s evangelicals should realize that “hearts and minds” is a far more effective tactic than legislating morality. The 50-year push to ban abortion is backfiring spectacularly. If they think abortion (or anything else) is wrong, they should preach against it, not legislate against it. 

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6 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Many sects of Christianity today do NOT consider homosexuality to be a sin. It is seldom mentioned, especially in the New Testament... other than in some lists of “bad stuff” which are questionably attributed to Jesus, if you ask me.

Even so, I don’t know that Jesus would attend a pride parade. But, I believe he wouldn’t run for office and then make such displays illegal.

Evangelicals are losing ground. America has fewer and fewer religious people every year. In my opinion, if they forgot all about their political aspirations, they might have a chance at salvaging things. Unfortunately, they’ve gone all in on “if you’re not Republican, you’re not Christian.” And that’s a losing strategy for both groups.

Jesus didn’t force people to do anything. Today’s evangelicals should realize that “hearts and minds” is a far more effective tactic than legislating morality. The 50-year push to ban abortion is backfiring spectacularly. If they think abortion (or anything else) is wrong, they should preach against it, not legislate against it. 

The New Testament and Jesus's ministry were not about regurgitating the Old Testament. He came to fulfill the Old Testament. There are lots of things not mentioned in the New Testament that clearly were still considered very much against the will of God. For that matter, murder isn't really discussed much in the New Testament along with a host of other things that most see as pretty concrete now. The Bible is pretty clear on homosexuality running contrary to what God intended for sexuality. Any sect of Christianity that does not believe that is simply making up new rules as they go. 

You are correct that there's no way Jesus runs for political office, but I'm not sure what the point of that is. I don't know many people who believe otherwise. Jesus came with a specific purpose and it didn't have much to do with the politics of the day as you correctly state. 

Again, we're going to differ on Christians entering into politics at all. I believe as many others do that progressives are out to destroy both Christianity and conservatism. What do you expect people to do when they're being steamrolled? Maybe progressives should actually stop trying to run people over and things would settle down in that arena. 

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27 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Many sects of Christianity today do NOT consider homosexuality to be a sin. It is seldom mentioned, especially in the New Testament... other than in some lists of “bad stuff” which are questionably attributed to Jesus, if you ask me.

Even so, I don’t know that Jesus would attend a pride parade. But, I believe he wouldn’t run for office and then make such displays illegal.

Evangelicals are losing ground. America has fewer and fewer religious people every year. In my opinion, if they forgot all about their political aspirations, they might have a chance at salvaging things. Unfortunately, they’ve gone all in on “if you’re not Republican, you’re not Christian.” And that’s a losing strategy for both groups.

Jesus didn’t force people to do anything. Today’s evangelicals should realize that “hearts and minds” is a far more effective tactic than legislating morality. The 50-year push to ban abortion is backfiring spectacularly. If they think abortion (or anything else) is wrong, they should preach against it, not legislate against it. 

. How come the democrats always run to the black churches at election time to kiss their ass? They have no problem with those Christians, and they ain’t down with the lgbtq. 

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15 hours ago, League Champion said:

 

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You know what would make a great Pride parade?  Guys in polo shirts and women in sundresses walking down the street and waving to people, like a councilperson at a local Easter parade.  Trans people can do the same for their preferred gender.

Let people know that while your sexual preferences or gender are different, you are otherwise like everyone else and just want to happily coexist.

I have several gay friends and they don't walk around in public in rainbow colored leather assless chaps.  

But somehow we conservatards are wrong for objecting to our kids watching somebody dressed as an 8 foot peemus walking down the street.  Remarkable.

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2 minutes ago, edjr said:

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3 is fat and disgusting, da fuq?  

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No kids? They took their nubs and went home. 

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31 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

3 is fat and disgusting, da fuq?  

Sorry. I was running to a meeting. fixed

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55 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

You know what would make a great Pride parade?  Guys in polo shirts and women in sundresses walking down the street and waving to people, like a councilperson at a local Easter parade.  Trans people can do the same for their preferred gender.

Let people know that while your sexual preferences or gender are different, you are otherwise like everyone else and just want to happily coexist.

I have several gay friends and they don't walk around in public in rainbow colored leather assless chaps.  

But somehow we conservatards are wrong for objecting to our kids watching somebody dressed as an 8 foot peemus walking down the street.  Remarkable.

focking bingo. weird they can't have a pride parade without their sick twisted perverted spin on it. kids shouldn't see assless chaps in any kind of parade.

for crissakes is this not common sense/decency??????

 

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28 minutes ago, porkbutt said:

focking bingo. weird they can't have a pride parade without their sick twisted perverted spin on it. kids shouldn't see assless chaps in any kind of parade.

for crissakes is this not common sense/decency??????

 

 Nope. Trump wrecked them. And they think Christians are the ones doing violence against Trans. 

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2 hours ago, Fumbleweed said:

The New Testament and Jesus's ministry were not about regurgitating the Old Testament. He came to fulfill the Old Testament. There are lots of things not mentioned in the New Testament that clearly were still considered very much against the will of God. For that matter, murder isn't really discussed much in the New Testament along with a host of other things that most see as pretty concrete now. The Bible is pretty clear on homosexuality running contrary to what God intended for sexuality. Any sect of Christianity that does not believe that is simply making up new rules as they go. 

You are correct that there's no way Jesus runs for political office, but I'm not sure what the point of that is. I don't know many people who believe otherwise. Jesus came with a specific purpose and it didn't have much to do with the politics of the day as you correctly state. 

Again, we're going to differ on Christians entering into politics at all. I believe as many others do that progressives are out to destroy both Christianity and conservatism. What do you expect people to do when they're being steamrolled? Maybe progressives should actually stop trying to run people over and things would settle down in that arena. 

SOME Christians believe they are being steamrolled. Just to be clear. Others believe a more inclusive society (welcoming LGBTQ people for example) is a positive thing.

Religion should transcend politics. The current problem is that evangelicals are the most visible Christians in America, and they are almost unanimously linked to the Republican Party. As politics become more contentious and polarized, fewer people want to be associated with the evangelical church because of this. The rise of the political religious right and the decline of religion (especially among young people) have gone hand-in-hand.

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1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

. How come the democrats always run to the black churches at election time to kiss their ass? They have no problem with those Christians, and they ain’t down with the lgbtq. 

Funny you mention this.  I read about this lady yesterday in the Va legislature Apparently the blacks in one part of Va aren’t woke enough and are taking heat from the woke white Dems in northern Va.

 

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2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

. How come the democrats always run to the black churches at election time to kiss their ass? They have no problem with those Christians, and they ain’t down with the lgbtq. 

 

10 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Funny you mention this.  I read about this lady yesterday in the Va legislature Apparently the blacks in one part of Va aren’t woke enough and are taking heat from the woke white Dems in northern Va.

 

White liberals are always at the forefront of telling other people that they're being marginalized.  It's funny (or sad), because they say it's the Republicans doing it, when it's really them and too many people fall for the scam.

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17 minutes ago, Fireballer said:

Funny you mention this.  I read about this lady yesterday in the Va legislature Apparently the blacks in one part of Va aren’t woke enough and are taking heat from the woke white Dems in northern Va.

 

They are going to lose the black churches if they haven’t already.  That’s why they have to be replaced. 

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40 minutes ago, dogcows said:

SOME Christians believe they are being steamrolled. Just to be clear. Others believe a more inclusive society (welcoming LGBTQ people for example) is a positive thing.

Religion should transcend politics. The current problem is that evangelicals are the most visible Christians in America, and they are almost unanimously linked to the Republican Party. As politics become more contentious and polarized, fewer people want to be associated with the evangelical church because of this. The rise of the political religious right and the decline of religion (especially among young people) have gone hand-in-hand.

Christians don't get to decide what is a positive thing and what is not. The Bible teaches that love, kindness, and service to others are all positive things. But that doesn't mean that every idea and act of men should be lauded. 

Now, if you want to a be church-goer who is part of a church that does not follow the Bible, I guess you get to define on your own what is positive and what is not. But, a Christian cannot simply decide for themself what is and what is not the will of God. To do so would then be creating a God of your own making. 

If you want to argue that the Bible does not condemn homosexuality and the like as sin, I would strongly disagree with you. If you want to argue that all persons are worthy of love and kindness, I would strongly agree with you. 

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4 hours ago, jerryskids said:

You know what would make a great Pride parade?  Guys in polo shirts and women in sundresses walking down the street and waving to people, like a councilperson at a local Easter parade.  Trans people can do the same for their preferred gender.

Let people know that while your sexual preferences or gender are different, you are otherwise like everyone else and just want to happily coexist.

I have several gay friends and they don't walk around in public in rainbow colored leather assless chaps.  

But somehow we conservatards are wrong for objecting to our kids watching somebody dressed as an 8 foot peemus walking down the street.  Remarkable.

So in other words take all the fun out of the gay pride parade. Like asking a hip hop band to play Sinatra. 
 

I’ve been to a few Pride parades in West Hollywood. They are crude, rude, outrageous and generally hilarious. They are great fun. You don’t have to attend if you don’t like it. But don’t tell others how to behave. 

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1 hour ago, Fumbleweed said:

Christians don't get to decide what is a positive thing and what is not. The Bible teaches that love, kindness, and service to others are all positive things. But that doesn't mean that every idea and act of men should be lauded. 

Now, if you want to a be church-goer who is part of a church that does not follow the Bible, I guess you get to define on your own what is positive and what is not. But, a Christian cannot simply decide for themself what is and what is not the will of God. To do so would then be creating a God of your own making. 

If you want to argue that the Bible does not condemn homosexuality and the like as sin, I would strongly disagree with you. If you want to argue that all persons are worthy of love and kindness, I would strongly agree with you. 

Many Christians believe the Bible does not condemn homosexuality. Here’s a primer on the scholarship behind that line of thinking, with references listed at the bottom.

https://www.hrc.org/resources/what-does-the-bible-say-about-homosexuality

To get back to the original topic, the marriage of religion and politics goes back to the early Roman Catholic church, and the results of that combination have seldom been good. If the idea of Christianity is to be an example, and teach people what’s right through love... then legislating morality should not be a part of that... yet it is critical to the modern evangelical movement. And that’s a mistake IMO.

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So I guess they aren’t proud? 

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44 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

So in other words take all the fun out of the gay pride parade. Like asking a hip hop band to play Sinatra. 
 

I’ve been to a few Pride parades in West Hollywood. They are crude, rude, outrageous and generally hilarious. They are great fun. You don’t have to attend if you don’t like it. But don’t tell others how to behave. 

Great, then keep them as they are and more states will follow Florida's lead and you can celebrate in the comfort of an indoor 21+ venue.   

This is what happens when you try to meet progressives 1/2 way -- they'll have none of it.  

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10 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Great, then keep them as they are and more states will follow Florida's lead and you can celebrate in the comfort of an indoor 21+ venue.   

This is what happens when you try to meet progressives 1/2 way -- they'll have none of it.  

Yep.  Remember when they told us that trannies just wanted us to use their proper pronouns?  See how compromising worked?  Now they're in women's sports, bathrooms, lockerrooms and want full access to your kids.

The problem isn't that we're not compromising, the problem is the left is not willing to compromise.  Ever.

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4 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

Yep.  Remember when they told us that trannies just wanted us to use their proper pronouns?  See how compromising worked?  Now they're in women's sports, bathrooms, lockerrooms and want full access to your kids.

The problem isn't that we're not compromising, the problem is the left is not willing to compromise.  Ever.

The Left's goal is for trans women to be women, not trans women.  Same for men.  That means 100% of the time, full privileges.  And no diagnosis required; self-diagnosis is fine. 

So, if a man is convicted of a sex offense and decides they are a woman tomorrow to go to a female prison to prey on women, that's just collateral damage of the greater good of a man having complete autonomy to declare he is a woman.  Sucks for actual women but, sorry not sorry, you aren't high enough on the intersectional scale.   

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2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

The Left's goal is for trans women to be women, not trans women.  Same for men.  That means 100% of the time, full privileges.  And no diagnosis required; self-diagnosis is fine. 

So, if a man is convicted of a sex offense and decides they are a woman tomorrow to go to a female prison to prey on women, that's just collateral damage of the greater good of a man having complete autonomy to declare he is a woman.  Sucks for actual women but, sorry not sorry, you aren't high enough on the intersectional scale.   

And that’s why people are fed up. 

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53 minutes ago, dogcows said:

Many Christians believe the Bible does not condemn homosexuality. Here’s a primer on the scholarship behind that line of thinking, with references listed at the bottom.

https://www.hrc.org/resources/what-does-the-bible-say-about-homosexuality

To get back to the original topic, the marriage of religion and politics goes back to the early Roman Catholic church, and the results of that combination have seldom been good. If the idea of Christianity is to be an example, and teach people what’s right through love... then legislating morality should not be a part of that... yet it is critical to the modern evangelical movement. And that’s a mistake IMO.

From my view, the only Christians who believe the Bible does not condemn homosexuality are those who want to arrive at the conclusion. You can say that you don't care what the Bible about it or anything else for that matter and that's a different thing. I think to say it doesn't speak to it, though, is reflective of a overriding desire to simply believe whatever it is you want to believe. 

Where you and I are going to differ greatly I would guess is that I think the democratic party is pure evil. I'm not necessarily a Republican as they've got issues, too, but am wholly anti-democrat. In that sense, I am not going to merely turn a blind eye to an evil entity that I believe wants the country destroyed inside and out. It is isn't "political" per se to stand up against that. I don't want power. I just want the democratic party to have to face resistance on their way towards spreading their agenda. 

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27 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Great, then keep them as they are and more states will follow Florida's lead and you can celebrate in the comfort of an indoor 21+ venue.   

This is what happens when you try to meet progressives 1/2 way -- they'll have none of it.  

I don’t think gay pride parades are something that  needs to be compromised over. Guess that’s just me. But it really feels like a dumb thing to object to. 

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5 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

The Left's goal is for trans women to be women, not trans women.  Same for men.  That means 100% of the time, full privileges.  And no diagnosis required; self-diagnosis is fine. 

So, if a man is convicted of a sex offense and decides they are a woman tomorrow to go to a female prison to prey on women, that's just collateral damage of the greater good of a man having complete autonomy to declare he is a woman.  Sucks for actual women but, sorry not sorry, you aren't high enough on the intersectional scale.   

To be fair, women did this to themselves for the most part.  They were up there helping lead the charge with trannies.  Feminism has been more detrimental to women than men have EVER been. 

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1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

I don’t think gay pride parades are something that  needs to be compromised over. Guess that’s just me. But it really feels like a dumb thing to object to. 

You'll say this about EVERYTHING.  Like we said, you're aren't willing to compromise on anything. 

[Hardcore troubadour 16,071]

God Bless Ron Desantis.  This should inspire other conservatives in office to stand up to these demented perverts. 

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Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

God Bless Ron Desantis.  This should inspire other conservatives in office to stand up to these demented perverts. 

I hope he's the nom for Prez.  If it's Trump, we get Biden again.

[MDC 8,134]

Biden’s best shot at re-election is if DeSantis wins the nomination and Trump goes full retard again, this time on the GOP. 

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5 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

You'll say this about EVERYTHING.  Like we said, you're aren't willing to compromise on anything. 

That’s absolutely not true for me. I can’t speak for others. But personally I’ve offered significant compromises on abortion, on trans issues, on guns, on climate change, on immigration, on just about every issue I can think of. 

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2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

That’s absolutely not true for me. I can’t speak for others. But personally I’ve offered significant compromises on abortion, on trans issues, on guns, on climate change, on immigration, on just about every issue I can think of.