Trump INDICTED

[TheNewGirl 1,450]

2 hours ago, RLLD said:

I think you mistake savvy business acumen for crookery, but I will allow that he is unsavory.  And as I have stated in the past, I have the experience of serving under a variety of leaders, and in battle where my life was on the line.  I prefer the effective, if unsavory, leader over the nice guy who screws things up.

I doubt I would like Donald Trump at all if I actually met him.  But....if he implements policies that improve the lives of most of the citizens then it does not matter what I think of him as a person. 

Moreover, if even a fraction of the accountability applied to Trump were remotely applied to Biden I would be perfectly satisfied.  But between the two....I cannot be sure right now who is the more corrupt or "bad", other than Biden implements really stupid policies that have predicatable outcomes....that he first denies, then tries to pretend away....and then blames others....

In terms of "leadership" he might be one of the worst I have ever seen....

This is how I feel as well. 

Gov Gavin Newsome isn't just a cheater several times over, or does he come off as a cocky piece of trash...but he doesn't care about people. He cares about money. He makes policies that have destroyed and harmed our state and the people who live here. 

 

[RLLD 4,190]

5 minutes ago, TheNewGirl said:

This is how I feel as well. 

Gov Gavin Newsome isn't just a cheater several times over, or does he come off as a cocky piece of trash...but he doesn't care about people. He cares about money. He makes policies that have destroyed and harmed our state and the people who live here. 

 

Perhaps.  That being said, if it were true that instead of what he does at present he decided to adjust.....to pursue putting criminals in prison, lower taxes, increase employment, foment energy independence etc....if he had the policies that made easy common sense, I would happily vote for him for President, no matter how much of a dooshbag he mght be as a person.

Results......focking results....... what the fock else matters, amiright?

[Fnord 2,167]

2 hours ago, RLLD said:

Moreover, if even a fraction of the accountability applied to Trump were remotely applied to Biden I would be perfectly satisfied. 

I would argue, based on publicly available evidence, that Biden is being held to account by certain partisans for things he very well may not be guilty of. Whereas Trump should have been removed from office in the second impeachment, but was not held accountable by a bootlicking Senate. He has headed multiple fraudulent endeavors, been convicted, and never done a moment of jail time or paid a true penalty. Huge fines were levied, but most certainly not paid by Trump personally. He has a history of misogyny (to put it politely), adultery, and unethical business practices (overly polite description). And as has been mentioned before, there was nothing he accomplished policy wise that any other republican wouldn't have also accomplished. Jeb Bush would have gotten more done than Trump, without the division and upheaval. Trump is an agent of chaos. Not the good kind, like his supporters like to pretend; Trump unchecked would be the ruination of the US, if not the world. He is held accountable for nothing. At least not yet...

[seafoam1 2,906]

1 minute ago, Fnord said:

I would argue, based on publicly available evidence, that Biden is being held to account by certain partisans for things he very well may not be guilty of. Whereas Trump should have been removed from office in the second impeachment, but was not held accountable by a bootlicking Senate. He has headed multiple fraudulent endeavors, been convicted, and never done a moment of jail time or paid a true penalty. Huge fines were levied, but most certainly not paid by Trump personally. He has a history of misogyny (to put it politely), adultery, and unethical business practices (overly polite description). And as has been mentioned before, there was nothing he accomplished policy wise that any other republican wouldn't have also accomplished. Jeb Bush would have gotten more done than Trump, without the division and upheaval. Trump is an agent of chaos. Not the good kind, like his supporters like to pretend; Trump unchecked would be the ruination of the US, if not the world. He is held accountable for nothing. At least not yet...

The TDS is strong in this one.

[Tree of Knowledge 1,789]

Trump unchecked would be the closest thing to heaven on earth 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,211]

Only two things can save this country. Our lord and savior Jesus Christ, and Donald J Trump. Jesus has yet to come back, so we only have one choice. 

[RLLD 4,190]

32 minutes ago, Fnord said:

I would argue, based on publicly available evidence, that Biden is being held to account by certain partisans for things he very well may not be guilty of. Whereas Trump should have been removed from office in the second impeachment, but was not held accountable by a bootlicking Senate. He has headed multiple fraudulent endeavors, been convicted, and never done a moment of jail time or paid a true penalty. Huge fines were levied, but most certainly not paid by Trump personally. He has a history of misogyny (to put it politely), adultery, and unethical business practices (overly polite description). And as has been mentioned before, there was nothing he accomplished policy wise that any other republican wouldn't have also accomplished. Jeb Bush would have gotten more done than Trump, without the division and upheaval. Trump is an agent of chaos. Not the good kind, like his supporters like to pretend; Trump unchecked would be the ruination of the US, if not the world. He is held accountable for nothing. At least not yet...

Both impeachments toward Trump were farcical nonsense, and because they decided to do that nonsense now I suspect we see the Republicans return the favor, unfortunately.

His policy manuevers were solid, loved them, but anyone can do them.  He showed how it can be done, how it is possible to employ good policies.  We just need someone, anyone, to step up and commit to the Trump model.  I would frankly prefer NOT to have Trump involved because we have to put up with excessive whining about stuff that does not matter, its just tiring. 

[seafoam1 2,906]

6 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Both impeachments toward Trump were farcical nonsense, and because they decided to do that nonsense now I suspect we see the Republicans return the favor, unfortunately.

His policy manuevers were solid, loved them, but anyone can do them.  He showed how it can be done, how it is possible to employ good policies.  We just need someone, anyone, to step up and commit to the Trump model.  I would frankly prefer NOT to have Trump involved because we have to put up with excessive whining about stuff that does not matter, its just tiring. 

Here's why I.think the "unfortunately" comment is wrong. 

Let me ask you this.. If someone were to keep punching you, which is wrong, and not be held accountable for it, do you think the right message to other people would be to not punch back?

[thegeneral 3,098]

4 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Trump is being indicted because he has 75 million votes and counting in his pocket. 

oh no

[thegeneral 3,098]

4 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Bernie Sanders is an independent and identifies as a socialist. Any other Senators do that? Think you can smarten up some time soon if you’re going to post this much? 

Bill Clinton a Governor from Arkansas was an DC insider. Yeah buddy

[seafoam1 2,906]

3 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Bill Clinton a Governor from Arkansas was an DC insider. Yeah buddy

"an DC" 

[thegeneral 3,098]

3 hours ago, jerryskids said:

When I hear Jan 6th, I think of the selfie fest errr... insurrection, worse than the Civil War%$@!  Nothing he did was illegal there and he will never be indicted for anything that day.

I've long said that the most egregious and potentially illegal thing he did was that phone call to the Georgia SOS.  I'd be fine if he were indicted for that.

The NY indictment was so pathetic it was both laughable and sad. 

For the documents, they could easily arrest Biden as well, but of course they won't.  Instead they made a Venn diagram of the two scenarios, highlighted the part unique to Trump, and indicted him on that alone, so that they could have plausible deniability for ignoring Biden.

Jan 6th was all the stuff up to it that I laid out. It is TBD if he is indicted for these actions. For me this is his worst issue though and why he should removed from consideration. If he has the right people in place who knows what happens. 

The documents indictment it is about him hiding them knowingly for probably the 100th time. That is his crime there.

[thegeneral 3,098]

5 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

"an DC" 

The adults are talking. Stick to posting memes you find funny on Twitter

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

1 hour ago, Fnord said:

I would argue, based on publicly available evidence, that Biden is being held to account by certain partisans for things he very well may not be guilty of. Whereas Trump should have been removed from office in the second impeachment, but was not held accountable by a bootlicking Senate....

 

 

False Dilemma

(also known as: all-or-nothing fallacy, false dichotomy [form of], the either-or fallacy, either-or reasoning, fallacy of false choice, fallacy of false alternatives, black-and-white thinking, the fallacy of exhaustive hypotheses, bifurcation, excluded middle, no middle ground, polarization)

Description: When only two choices are presented yet more exist, or a spectrum of possible choices exists between two extremes.  False dilemmas are usually characterized by “either this or that” language, but can also be characterized by omissions of choices.  Another variety is the false trilemma, which is when three choices are presented when more exist.

https://www.logicallyfallacious.com/logicalfallacies/False-Dilemma

 

[seafoam1 2,906]

7 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

The adults are talking. Stick to posting memes you find funny on Twitter

"an DC".  So adult you never passed 5th grade. 

[thegeneral 3,098]

Just now, seafoam1 said:

"an DC". 

Big day of typos for Seafoam! Nice work!

[thegeneral 3,098]

1 hour ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Trump unchecked would be the closest thing to heaven on earth 

He missed his calling as a WWF announcer or carnival barker. 

[seafoam1 2,906]

25 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Big day of typos for Seafoam! Nice work!

"an DC"  

That's not a typo. 

[thegeneral 3,098]

13 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

"an DC"  

That's not a typo. 

It was an insider and then I added DC. What a shetbird you are  

Typos are better than your normal pedo crap I gotta say. 

[seafoam1 2,906]

12 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

It was an insider and then I added DC. What a shetbird you are  

Typos are better than your normal pedo crap I gotta say. 

"an DC" 

[thegeneral 3,098]

8 minutes ago, seafoam1 said:

"an DC" 

This is the only place you interact with people I think  

Sorry bro.

[Fnord 2,167]

2 hours ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Trump unchecked would be the closest thing to heaven on earth 

Posts like this are why I'll never quit you, KD.

[jerryskids 6,698]

1 hour ago, thegeneral said:

Jan 6th was all the stuff up to it that I laid out. It is TBD if he is indicted for these actions. For me this is his worst issue though and why he should removed from consideration. If he has the right people in place who knows what happens. 

The documents indictment it is about him hiding them knowingly for probably the 100th time. That is his crime there.

Do you know what a Venn diagram is?  If not, let me ask:  did Biden commit any crimes with the boxes of documents in his garage?

[seafoam1 2,906]

35 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

This is the only place you interact with people I think  

Sorry bro.

"an DC". 

[thegeneral 3,098]

22 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Do you know what a Venn diagram is?  If not, let me ask:  did Biden commit any crimes with the boxes of documents in his garage?

Laws don’t work by Venn Diagram.

Biden is still being investigated.

Trump hid from investigators and obstructed among other things  This is why he is charged. Biden, like Pence, I’d guess will not face any charges. But we will see. 

[seafoam1 2,906]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

Laws don’t work by Venn Diagram.

Biden is still being investigated.

Trump hid from investigators and obstructed among other things  This is why he is charged. Biden, like Pence, I’d guess will not face any charges. But we will see. 

 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,789]

2 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Laws don’t work by Venn Diagram.

Biden is still being investigated.

Trump hid from investigators and obstructed among other things  This is why he is charged. Biden, like Pence, I’d guess will not face any charges. But we will see. 

Father Trump is charged and harassed because he represents a threat to the deep state globalist grand scheme. He is the greatest hope for humanity in the last 2000 years. 

[thegeneral 3,098]

21 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Father Trump is charged and harassed because he represents a threat to the deep state globalist grand scheme. He is the greatest hope for humanity in the last 2000 years. 

Only 2000! You are slipping, KD.

[Pimpadeaux 2,405]

3 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Only two things can save this country. Our lord and savior Jesus Christ, and Donald J Trump. Jesus has yet to come back, so we only have one choice. 

So you're ranking together Jesus and T-pump, a rapist, thief and overall crook on myriad levels.

[Patented Phil 1,469]

4 hours ago, Fnord said:

I would argue, based on publicly available evidence, that Biden is being held to account by certain partisans for things he very well may not be guilty of. Whereas Trump should have been removed from office in the second impeachment, but was not held accountable by a bootlicking Senate. He has headed multiple fraudulent endeavors, been convicted, and never done a moment of jail time or paid a true penalty. Huge fines were levied, but most certainly not paid by Trump personally. He has a history of misogyny (to put it politely), adultery, and unethical business practices (overly polite description). And as has been mentioned before, there was nothing he accomplished policy wise that any other republican wouldn't have also accomplished. Jeb Bush would have gotten more done than Trump, without the division and upheaval. Trump is an agent of chaos. Not the good kind, like his supporters like to pretend; Trump unchecked would be the ruination of the US, if not the world. He is held accountable for nothing. At least not yet...

Dumb, worthless analysis.  You don’t indict an ex-President and leading Presidential candidate unless it’s something serious - as in - a clear crime with a clear victim and clear harm done.  And I don’t care if it’s Democrat or Republican.  Unless of course you want to see what a real armed insurrection looks like.

We are a very stupid country right now - our own worst enemy.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,211]

7 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

So you're ranking together Jesus and T-pump, a rapist, thief and overall crook on myriad levels.

Rapist? 

[Patented Phil 1,469]

3 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Only two things can save this country. Our lord and savior Jesus Christ, and Donald J Trump. Jesus has yet to come back, so we only have one choice. 

America desperately needs a GREAT leader right now - on the level of Washington or Lincoln. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,405]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Rapist? 

You not follow him losing a civil case over him raping a woman and then the case was upheald?

Geez, boy, get out there and read!

https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+rape&oq=trump+rape&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCDM3NzRqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

[Hardcore troubadour 15,211]

Just now, Patented Phil said:

America desperately needs a GREAT leader right now - on the level of Washington or Lincoln. 

We got this. Americans are fed up. The bud light, Disney and Target situations are a great indicator. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,405]

1 minute ago, Patented Phil said:

America desperately needs a GREAT leader right now - on the level of Washington or Lincoln. 

And it ain't T-pump. He's the most dangerous political figure in modern history because his cultist followers blindly devour whatever comes out of his piehole.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,211]

Just now, Pimpadeaux said:

You not follow him losing a civil case over him raping a woman and then the case was upheald?

Geez, boy, get out there and read!

https://www.google.com/search?q=trump+rape&oq=trump+rape&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUyBggAEEUYOdIBCDM3NzRqMGo3qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

Where does it say rape? Can you quote that for me? TIA. 

[Patented Phil 1,469]

2 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

And it ain't T-pump. He's the most dangerous political figure in modern history because his cultist followers blindly devour whatever comes out of his piehole.

I agree that it ain’t Trump.  The rest of your post is your usual, uninformed nonsense.

[Dizkneelande 1,093]

21 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

And it ain't T-pump. He's the most dangerous political figure in modern history because his cultist followers blindly devour whatever comes out of his piehole.

Most stupid people don’t think they are stupid just like most insane people don’t think they’re insane. 

[jerryskids 6,698]

1 hour ago, thegeneral said:

Laws don’t work by Venn Diagram.

Biden is still being investigated.

Trump hid from investigators and obstructed among other things  This is why he is charged. Biden, like Pence, I’d guess will not face any charges. But we will see. 

That first sentence is stupid.  I used a graphic to explain to you how the feds will selectively enforce laws which apply to Trump but not Biden.  You, apparently not getting that, listed some of those items.  But the US code says:

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Whoever, being an officer, employee, contractor, or consultant of the United States, and, by virtue of his office, employment, position, or contract, becomes possessed of documents or materials containing classified information of the United States, knowingly removes such documents or materials without authority and with the intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location shall be fined under this title or imprisoned for not more than five years, or both.

Biden clearly did that.  And before you say it, he had the "intent to retain such documents or materials at an unauthorized location" until the documents were discovered.  Perhaps you think if someone steals a car, if that car is then located and the thief says "oh my bad go ahead and take it," he won't be arrested? 

Biden violated the law, certainly enough to be indicted, should the prosecutors be so inclined.  Which they won't be.

Wanna put a friendly wager on whether or not Biden gets indicted?   

[Hardcore troubadour 15,211]

17 million to Biden family members, including grandchildren from foreign entity’s via Hunters shell corporations. Nothing to see here folks, move along.