Blue Horseshoe 348 Posted August 2, 2023 5 hours ago, Fnord said: The focking Capitol police requested it, numb nuts. No one answered for HOURS. You're going to vote for a traitor. Happily. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted August 2, 2023 Rudy sounds like he's about to cry 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,228 Posted August 2, 2023 Were i trump's legal team I would consider trying this most recent matter to the court rather than to a jury. Juries in D.C. are composed of democrats who are emotional about this issue and who have an orthodoxy of thought which would not be amenable to Trunp's defense. The Court probably a bit less so, though who knows. The thing is, an appeals court is, in my mind, a bit more likely to overturn a judge than a jury. The indictment does not impress me, at first blush. I will wait to hear the case. Proving, or trying to prove, what was in the mind of a person like Trump will be interesting. Is it unlawful be be delusional, to hiold out hope, to be suspicious of unusual circumstances or trends in voting? I guess we shall see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,757 Posted August 2, 2023 13 hours ago, Fnord said: Sounds like you and your pals might be terrorists. Cut from the same cloth as those that dumped tea in Boston Harbor. Your terrorist are everyone else’s patriots. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,757 Posted August 2, 2023 9 hours ago, thegeneral said: “Our country is more important than one man. Our constitution is more important than any one man’s career. On January 6th, Former President Trump demanded that I choose between him and the Constitution. I chose the Constitution and I always will.” Empty suit Mike Pence taking shots at Trump Ukraine Mike. Nobody cares about him anymore. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted August 2, 2023 8 hours ago, paulinstl said: You don't even try to be honest. Trumper being Trumper. Ok I'll do the math for you. Things started to get out of hand shortly after 2:00pm. First tweet was at 2:38. Boy arent you retarded. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,125 Posted August 2, 2023 35 minutes ago, RogerDodger said: Ok I'll do the math for you. Things started to get out of hand shortly after 2:00pm. First tweet was at 2:38. Boy arent you retarded. He tweeted when he could have called the national guard. Real alpha you got yourself there. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted August 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Fnord said: He tweeted when he could have called the national guard. Real alpha you got yourself there. Too many selfies, should have sent in the green berets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,107 Posted August 2, 2023 1 minute ago, Fnord said: He tweeted when he could have called the national guard. Real alpha you got yourself there. Still doesn’t know how it works. But keep saying it if makes you feel good. You people love your feelings. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,125 Posted August 2, 2023 12 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Oh, so you’re saying Trump denied the request? Who was the request made to? This should be fun. When was the last time you supported one of your claims, Mr. "Big Deal Around Here?" But to show that I am indeed a better man than you, I will support my claims. Trump didn't deny the request. He just never acted. The request was denied, however. Apparently, since the NG did such a bang-up job (literally) in quelling the Floyd protests in the summer of 2020, officials were worried about "optics." We don't dare call out the NG! Think of how it would look! After all, it was just a mostly peaceful gathering of upstanding white folks in DC on Jan 6. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,125 Posted August 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Still doesn’t know how it works. But keep saying it if makes you feel good. You people love your feelings. Not as much as MAGA does. Feelings over evidence, every single time. Right wing media wins out over truth amongst your lot. Ironically, you refuse to believe the "liberal media" but are all too ready to swallow talking points from the even bigger liars. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,757 Posted August 2, 2023 13 minutes ago, RogerDodger said: Too many selfies, should have sent in the green berets. Democrats were hoping for the cub scouts. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted August 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Engorgeous George said: Were i trump's legal team I would consider trying this most recent matter to the court rather than to a jury. Juries in D.C. are composed of democrats who are emotional about this issue and who have an orthodoxy of thought which would not be amenable to Trunp's defense. The Court probably a bit less so, though who knows. The thing is, an appeals court is, in my mind, a bit more likely to overturn a judge than a jury. The indictment does not impress me, at first blush. I will wait to hear the case. Proving, or trying to prove, what was in the mind of a person like Trump will be interesting. Is it unlawful be be delusional, to hiold out hope, to be suspicious of unusual circumstances or trends in voting? I guess we shall see. This is the spin- he was just innocently "holding out hope"? Thanks for the am laugh. Delusional? If not jail time, shouldn't believing you won an election you didn't should at least disqualify you from office. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,852 Posted August 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, Fnord said: Not as much as MAGA does. Feelings over evidence, every single time. Right wing media wins out over truth amongst your lot. Ironically, you refuse to believe the "liberal media" but are all too ready to swallow talking points from the even bigger liars. Ok. Whatever else is being discussed here..this line is 100% false. Liberals are ALL about feelings. to say "MAGA" is worse is absurd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,125 Posted August 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, supermike80 said: Ok. Whatever else is being discussed here..this line is 100% false. Liberals are ALL about feelings. to say "MAGA" is worse is absurd. Those continuing to support a guy who's looking at three indictments with a fourth on the way, twice-impeached, running on a platform of power consolidation under his presidency while claiming to be Patriots is the very epitome of "feelings over facts." Here's a good rule of thumb: if DJT is complaining about something being done to him, he either already has, or eagerly will, do the same thing to his "enemies." The narrative is upside down, and the MAGAmooks refuse to see it, or the irony of it. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,107 Posted August 2, 2023 26 minutes ago, Fnord said: When was the last time you supported one of your claims, Mr. "Big Deal Around Here?" But to show that I am indeed a better man than you, I will support my claims. Trump didn't deny the request. He just never acted. The request was denied, however. Apparently, since the NG did such a bang-up job (literally) in quelling the Floyd protests in the summer of 2020, officials were worried about "optics." We don't dare call out the NG! Think of how it would look! After all, it was just a mostly peaceful gathering of upstanding white folks in DC on Jan 6. Hilarious. Good one, one of your best. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted August 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, Fnord said: Those continuing to support a guy who's looking at three indictments with a fourth on the way, twice-impeached, running on a platform of power consolidation under his presidency while claiming to be Patriots is the very epitome of "feelings over facts." Here's a good rule of thumb: if DJT is complaining about something being done to him, he either already has, or eagerly will, do the same thing to his "enemies." The narrative is upside down, and the MAGAmooks refuse to see it, or the irony of it. Do you wake up every morning trying to say something more stupid than yesterday? Most people get smarter over time, you run away from it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,852 Posted August 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, Fnord said: Those continuing to support a guy who's looking at three indictments with a fourth on the way, twice-impeached, running on a platform of power consolidation under his presidency while claiming to be Patriots is the very epitome of "feelings over facts." Here's a good rule of thumb: if DJT is complaining about something being done to him, he either already has, or eagerly will, do the same thing to his "enemies." The narrative is upside down, and the MAGAmooks refuse to see it, or the irony of it. You can claim that, fine. But your comment that MAGA's are generally more feelings over facts compared to liberals is juts flat out inaccurate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,125 Posted August 2, 2023 1 minute ago, RogerDodger said: Do you wake up every morning trying to say something more stupid than yesterday? Most people get smarter over time, you run away from it. Looks like we have something in common. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,125 Posted August 2, 2023 1 minute ago, supermike80 said: You can claim that, fine. But your comment that MAGA's are generally more feelings over facts compared to liberals is juts flat out inaccurate. You're basing this on your feelings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,852 Posted August 2, 2023 Just now, Fnord said: You're basing this on your feelings. Ha. No. I have no feelings attached to this observation. Hey you have your opinion, I have mine. I view your opinion as wrong, as you do mine. We can move on. No desire to hammer that one back and forth big fella. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted August 2, 2023 3 minutes ago, Fnord said: Looks like we have something in common. I know you are but what am I response? That must have worked so well for you on the playground. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,125 Posted August 2, 2023 4 minutes ago, RogerDodger said: I know you are but what am I response? That must have worked so well for you on the playground. Look, I gotta play to the audience. In this case, the audience would be best kept on the playground and out of the voting booth. Although those monkey bars can be dangerous, so wear your helmet, and take turns going down the slides. We can only save you from your own stupidity so many times. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,125 Posted August 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, supermike80 said: Ha. No. I have no feelings attached to this observation. Hey you have your opinion, I have mine. I view your opinion as wrong, as you do mine. We can move on. No desire to hammer that one back and forth big fella. Sorry, not trying to start shlt with you, I just couldn't resist the response. Thanks for not being a doosh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,388 Posted August 2, 2023 I don't know if anyone has read it it yet but you can read it here. https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149/gov.uscourts.dcd.258149.1.0_1.pdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted August 2, 2023 49 minutes ago, BuckSwope said: Delusional? If not jail time, shouldn't believing you won an election you didn't should at least disqualify you from office. Sure, Enjoy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,641 Posted August 2, 2023 15 hours ago, RogerDodger said: @realDonaldTrump·37m Why didn’t they bring this ridiculous case 2.5 years ago? They wanted it right in the middle of my campaign, that’s why! Theater Politics There is truth in this. I've long said that there was no intent to actually convict Trump prior to the election, but rather to space out the charges to keep him negatively in the news. It is a siege, not a blitzkrieg, the purpose of which is to generate and maintain Trump fatigue for the independent voters through the election. And I suspect it is working. After they put their corpse back into office, I'm not really sure what the DNC's plan is. They'll probably actually push to convict him, to throw some red meat to their TDS sycophants. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted August 2, 2023 23 minutes ago, Fnord said: Look, I gotta play to the audience. In this case, the audience would be best kept on the playground and out of the voting booth. Although those monkey bars can be dangerous, so wear your helmet, and take turns going down the slides. We can only save you from your own stupidity so many times. I know you are but what am I double down. Times Infinity! What a foking child. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted August 2, 2023 7 minutes ago, Reality said: Sure, Enjoy. Awesome, now find one post where I am defending Biden. I agree he should go and it should exclude him from office AS WELL. It's that last part that you all can't get through your thick domes. But Biden!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted August 2, 2023 1 hour ago, supermike80 said: You can claim that, fine. But your comment that MAGA's are generally more feelings over facts compared to liberals is juts flat out inaccurate. Come, on - like this is a quantifiable thing we could argue about. It's just opinion which side does it more or a larger %. You are reasonable, can we at least agree that anybody believing him after the multiple court cases and people from his own team telling him he lost is probably going on feels, including the man himself? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted August 2, 2023 36 minutes ago, BuckSwope said: Awesome, now find one post where I am defending Biden. I agree he should go and it should exclude him from office AS WELL. It's that last part that you all can't get through your thick domes. But Biden!! That's what I figured. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,048 Posted August 2, 2023 1 hour ago, supermike80 said: You can claim that, fine. But your comment that MAGA's are generally more feelings over facts compared to liberals is juts flat out inaccurate. We’ll, those dudes who show up to MAGA rallies dressed up like ComicCon with 9 FJB flags do seem a little emotional. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted August 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, thegeneral said: We’ll, those dudes who show up to MAGA rallies dressed up like ComicCon with 9 FJB flags do seem a little emotional. Level headed, rational people to a man. AND true patriots, of course. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted August 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, Reality said: That's what I figured. Yeah, you are right. I'm not bothering watching your guys' Youtube videos. You can make your point with your own words. ETA: you got me, I saw the pic and assumed it was a video of a confused, delusional Joe. I'll own that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,543 Posted August 2, 2023 56 minutes ago, jerryskids said: There is truth in this. I've long said that there was no intent to actually convict Trump prior to the election, but rather to space out the charges to keep him negatively in the news. It is a siege, not a blitzkrieg, the purpose of which is to generate and maintain Trump fatigue for the independent voters through the election. And I suspect it is working. After they put their corpse back into office, I'm not really sure what the DNC's plan is. They'll probably actually push to convict him, to throw some red meat to their TDS sycophants. It won’t surprise you that I disagree. First off I don’t think there’s any plan at all. Each of these cases is moving along at its own speed. The delay, IMO, was mostly due to Garland hesitating before appointing the independent prosecutor; he knew that any action against Trump would be viewed as highly political. But in the end the bulk of evidence forced his hand. Second I think this latest indictment will result in a trial prior to the election. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted August 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: It won’t surprise you that I disagree. First off I don’t think there’s any plan at all. Each of these cases is moving along at its own speed. The delay, IMO, was mostly due to Garland hesitating before appointing the independent prosecutor; he knew that any action against Trump would be viewed as highly political. But in the end the bulk of evidence forced his hand. Second I think this latest indictment will result in a trial prior to the election. And I disagree that any of this would negatively effect Trump's chances in the first place, so if it was the plan it's a dumb one. This "witch hunt" sh1t is gold for his base - they eat it up, and it's a reason they rally behind him. It's just more proof of the weaponization of the DOJ to them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,543 Posted August 2, 2023 Just now, BuckSwope said: And I disagree that any of this would negatively effect Trump's chances in the first place, so if it was the plan it's a dumb one. This "witch hunt" sh1t is gold for his base - they eat it up, and it's a reason they rally behind him. It's just more proof of the weaponization of the DOJ to them. It hasn’t affected Trump’s chances so far. But there’s a chance this latest indictment might. A chance, not saying it will. But this one feels different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BuckSwope 654 Posted August 2, 2023 1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said: It hasn’t affected Trump’s chances so far. But there’s a chance this latest indictment might. A chance, not saying it will. But this one feels different. To me its by far the worst of the 3, but the timing sucks and I can also see the populace's eyes glazing over from the string of charges and multiple cases. It's easier to put it in the witch hunt category since it's #3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 797 Posted August 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I think this latest indictment will result in a trial prior to the election. A - There is a good chance it get's thrown out before even getting to trial B - President Trump’s Attorney John Lauro: Quote “We now have the ability in this case to issue our own subpoenas. And we will relitigate every single issue in the 2020 Election. It gives President Trump an opportunity that he has never had before, which is to have subpoena power.” Start with 51 "experts" that signed off on the laptop as Russian dis-information, then every state voting law that was changed/suspended in the name of Covid, next suppression of twitter/facebook and through every one of the 73 or 93 indictments This thing won't be over before the 2028 election. 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: But this one feels different. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites