The Question That Remains Unanswered...

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

Some people are really dug in and willing to go down with the Trump ship.

[Fnord 2,054]

25 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Some people are really dug in and willing to go down with the Trump ship.

These are the same people that would go down on Trump if given the opportunity. Fock em.

[thegeneral 2,939]

14 minutes ago, Fnord said:

These are the same people that would go down on Trump if given the opportunity. Fock em.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,960]

Trump starts off with 75 million votes in his pocket. They know this and are terrified.  

[thegeneral 2,939]

1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Trump starts off with 75 million votes in his pocket. They know this and are terrified.  

This is pretty crazy. Trump is by far the most beatable candidate. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,960]

They know how close it was in the swing states. Trump lost by a combined 44k votes in Georgia, Arizona and Wisconsin.  If he won those states there would have been a tie in the electoral college. They know this and are terrified.  

[thegeneral 2,939]

8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

They know how close it was in the swing states. Trump lost by a combined 44k votes in Georgia, Arizona and Wisconsin.  If he won those states there would have been a tie in the electoral college. They know this and are terrified.  

The orange clown losing again and crying until he croaks would sort of be worth it on some level. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,485]

14 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Some people are really dug in and willing to go down with the Trump ship.

Wrong.  It's about seeing that this is nothing but political theater.  It's about watching this dog and pony show to make it look like it's a massive catastrophe.  Nothing is going to happen.

[TBayXXXVII 2,485]

13 hours ago, Fnord said:

These are the same people that would go down on Trump if given the opportunity. Fock em.

LOL, and you call yourself an "Independent".  Too funny.

[thegeneral 2,939]

20 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Wrong.  It's about seeing that this is nothing but political theater.  It's about watching this dog and pony show to make it look like it's a massive catastrophe.  Nothing is going to happen.

I believe this is where you are at then with all this: All these guys do this, they only would do this to hide something, trying to get the stuff back or see what they have is political theater?

Is that right?

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

38 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Wrong.  It's about seeing that this is nothing but political theater.  It's about watching this dog and pony show to make it look like it's a massive catastrophe.  Nothing is going to happen.

Trump is one of the dirtiest people there is.  He's not innocent and if you want to use Biden and Hillary as a whatabout then go ahead, I think they should be in jail too.  I'm sick of these people being in power and getting away with whatever they want.  They are not above the law and it's time to start letting them know it.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,960]

33 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Trump is one of the dirtiest people there is.  He's not innocent and if you want to use Biden and Hillary as a whatabout then go ahead, I think they should be in jail too.  I'm sick of these people being in power and getting away with whatever they want.  They are not above the law and it's time to start letting them know it.

Selective prosecution isn’t the way to do that.  It’s wrong. And that’s not a “whataboutism “. It’s a defense.  

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Selective prosecution isn’t the way to do that.  It’s wrong. And that’s not a “whataboutism “. It’s a defense.  

Prosecute them all.

[Wade Garrett 155]

10 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

They know how close it was in the swing states. Trump lost by a combined 44k votes in Georgia, Arizona and Wisconsin.  If he won those states there would have been a tie in the electoral college. They know this and are terrified.  

You realize that outside cultist, Trump is far far less popular then ever right?  People can see what a disaster he left the country.  The mess that Biden's had to fix.  The indictments, prodding his deplorables to attack our capital, etc.

Trump doesn't have a chance in hell in a general.  He hasn't won squat in a general since 16 and the outcomes only get worse.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Selective prosecution isn’t the way to do that.  It’s wrong. And that’s not a “whataboutism “. It’s a defense.  

Except it's not a defense, that's the point.

Good luck to trump trying to make this argument in court.

[Wade Garrett 155]

2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Except it's not a defense, that's the point.

Good luck to trump trying to make this argument in court.

See what I'm talking about?  They have no clue how the law works.  Any charge against their master is made up or not fair.

They think like children. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,960]

56 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Except it's not a defense, that's the point.

Good luck to trump trying to make this argument in court.

Oh I don’t care about the court. It’s the court of public opinion that counts. Convict away. Ain’t gonna stop him or MAGA. And it most certainly is a defense. Pipe down. You’re out of your lane again. 

[Wade Garrett 155]

13 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Oh I don’t care about the court. It’s the court of public opinion that counts. Convict away. Ain’t gonna stop him or MAGA. And it most certainly is a defense. Pipe down. You’re out of your lane again. 

Are you non-cultist understand what I'm trying to show you yet?  These people don't care about norms or laws or facts.  They prostrate themselves so completely before their orange, moron master they're legit children.

SAD

[HellToupee 1,596]

1 hour ago, Wade Garrett said:

cultist

[TBayXXXVII 2,485]

1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said:

Prosecute them all.

That was my point, but you seemed to jump in with this: "Some people are really dug in and willing to go down with the Trump ship."

You decided to ignore these posts I made here & here, and somehow thought that the guy who's politically bias, is right.

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

5 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

That was my point, but you seemed to jump in with this: "Some people are really dug in and willing to go down with the Trump ship."

You decided to ignore these posts I made here & here, and somehow thought that the guy who's politically bias, is right.

I don't care for the part where you're only ok with it if it happens to Hillary and Biden first.  As much as I want it to happen I don't need it to happen.  It needs to start somewhere.

[TBayXXXVII 2,485]

1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I don't care for the part where you're only ok with it if it happens to Hillary and Biden first.  As much as I want it to happen I don't need it to happen.  It needs to start somewhere.

Really?  You think that the person who did something... THIRD in order, should be the first one to be found guilty of something?  Sorry, but that doesn't make sense.

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

2 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Really?  You think that the person who did something... THIRD in order, should be the first one to be found guilty of something?  Sorry, but that doesn't make sense.

I'm saying it needs to start somewhere.  I'm not saying it's right.  If you don't start somewhere then it's never going to change.

[TBayXXXVII 2,485]

3 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I'm saying it needs to start somewhere.  I'm not saying it's right.  If you don't start somewhere then it's never going to change.

I believe in doing what's right.  I agree that you have to start somewhere... and it should start at the beginning.  Here's what we know... if they start with Trump, it'll end there, so what you've accomplished was setting the foundation of "It's good for me, but not thee".

Again, to show I'm not partisan, like the hack I was talking to before, include Pence too... and Obama, and the Bush's.  I have NO allegiance to ANY politician.

[MDC 7,149]

I like how the law and order POTUS’s defends is that what is he did is no worse than the swamp creatures he was supposed to purge from Washington. Trump is as big a dirtbag as any DC lifer and twice as whiny. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,960]

7 minutes ago, MDC said:

I like how the law and order POTUS’s defends is that what is he did is no worse than the swamp creatures he was supposed to purge from Washington. Trump is as big a dirtbag as any DC lifer and twice as whiny. 

Selective prosecution isn’t law and order. HTH. 

[MDC 7,149]

Trump isn’t arguing that he didn’t break the law. He’s claiming that Hillary and Biden also broke the law. The folks who he said should be locked up for doing the things he did.

What a child.  

[Mike Honcho 5,115]

14 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

They know how close it was in the swing states. Trump lost by a combined 44k votes in Georgia, Arizona and Wisconsin.  If he won those states there would have been a tie in the electoral college. They know this and are terrified.  

And you think the indictments for espionage, tax evasion and a sexual assault conviction are going to get those independents to switch back to him?  All righty!

[Mike Honcho 5,115]

 

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Retired Air Force officer sentenced to 3 years for storing classified information at his Florida home

A retired Air Force lieutenant colonel was sentenced to three years in federal prison Thursday for storing files with classified information at his Florida home, the Department of Justice announced.

Robert Birchum pleaded guilty earlier this year to unlawfully possessing and retaining classified documents relating to national defense, the department said in a news release.

Birchum served nearly three decades in the Air Force and held several roles that required him to handle classified information, prosecutors said. In his plea agreement, Birchum admitted to having stored hundreds of files that contained information with top secret, secret or confidential classification markings in unauthorized locations.

 

In 2017, investigators found that Birchum “knowingly removed more than 300 classified files or documents” and kept them in “his home, his overseas officer’s headquarters, and a storage pod in his driveway,” according to the release. More than 30 of those files and documents were marked “Top Secret” – the highest level of classification.

 

This is what scares me about the case against DT. It took 6 years for this guy to get convicted, how long can Trump drag it out?   

[Hardcore troubadour 14,960]

8 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

And you think the indictments for espionage, tax evasion and a sexual assault conviction are going to get those independents to switch back to him?  All righty!

Espionage! Nuclear documents! Overplayed their hand.  I guess they never heard the story of the daddy bull and the baby bull.  And when was he convicted of sexual assault? That’s a serious crime. 

[nobody 2,568]

2 hours ago, Mike Honcho said:

 

This is what scares me about the case against DT. It took 6 years for this guy to get convicted, how long can Trump drag it out?   

My biggest concern isn't that trump will drag it out.  It's that, the standard seems to be different for everyone.

[seafoam1 2,804]

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Espionage! Nuclear documents! Overplayed their hand.  I guess they never heard the story of the daddy bull and the baby bull.  And when was he convicted of sexual assault? That’s a serious crime. 

It's all liberal speak for......TRUMP!!! 

[TBayXXXVII 2,485]

46 minutes ago, nobody said:

My biggest concern isn't that trump will drag it out.  It's that, the standard seems to be different for everyone.

Exactly!

This is going to carry out until the primaries.  Once Trump is out of the race, this story goes away because everyone knows the only reason this is an issue is because the Democrats don't want him in office again, and they know he can beat Biden.  Like I said earlier, it's all political theater.

The funniest part of all of this is, if Trump wins in 2024, once he's out in 2028, the Democrats are so childish that they will look to pick this up again when he leaves with more documents!!  They'll press this until he dies.

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

24 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Exactly!

This is going to carry out until the primaries.  Once Trump is out of the race, this story goes away because everyone knows the only reason this is an issue is because the Democrats don't want him in office again, and they know he can beat Biden.  Like I said earlier, it's all political theater.

The funniest part of all of this is, if Trump wins in 2024, once he's out in 2028, the Democrats are so childish that they will look to pick this up again when he leaves with more documents!!  They'll press this until he dies.

I'd like him to be in jail regardless of what happens.  He deserves it.

[thegeneral 2,939]

4 hours ago, MDC said:

I like how the law and order POTUS’s defends is that what is he did is no worse than the swamp creatures he was supposed to purge from Washington. Trump is as big a dirtbag as any DC lifer and twice as whiny. 

The thing with Trump is anything he rants about, he is doing on a larger scale.

It’s funny how often it happens.

[TBayXXXVII 2,485]

14 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I'd like him to be in jail regardless of what happens.  He deserves it.

...and so do the rest.  Now, when he's the only one that goes (if he does), you'll finally understand that it was politically motivated, right?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,960]

24 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I'd like him to be in jail regardless of what happens.  He deserves it.

For what? 

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

11 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

For what? 

I'd be happy if he was jailed just for all the people he's screwed over throughout his career.  There are a lot of contractors he's never paid.  Obviously there's a long list of current allegations that you're already aware of.  We'll see what happens with them.

[Strike 5,219]

1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Exactly!

This is going to carry out until the primaries.  Once Trump is out of the race, this story goes away because everyone knows the only reason this is an issue is because the Democrats don't want him in office again, and they know he can beat Biden.  Like I said earlier, it's all political theater.

The funniest part of all of this is, if Trump wins in 2024, once he's out in 2028, the Democrats are so childish that they will look to pick this up again when he leaves with more documents!!  They'll press this until he dies.

If Trump wins in 2024 no fing way he doesn't pardon himself, and I don't blame him one bit.

[Strike 5,219]

5 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

I'd be happy if he was jailed just for all the people he's screwed over throughout his career.  There are a lot of contractors he's never paid.  Obviously there's a long list of current allegations that you're already aware of.  We'll see what happens with them.

This isn't the way our legal system works.  But hey, if violating the Constitution burns the people you don't like I guess you're ok with that.  Good to know.