What happens after the end of Affirmative Action?

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16 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Do I get reparations?

You will get the same amount as everyone in CA.

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Big mike Obama is pissed. Thus its the correct decision.

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43 minutes ago, dogcows said:

When a college only allowed white people for centuries, and then has a “legacy” admission program, that is de facto affirmative action for white people.

Rich white people. Please be accurate. Funny the left can categorize everyone into smaller subsets, and “intersectionality” but when it’s a negative all white people get lumped together. No.  

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Another W for the Right.

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3 minutes ago, squistion said:

 

His idiot son went to Yale. Somehow middle class Joe was able to pay for all his kids to go to expensive, private schools.  

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7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Rich white people. Please be accurate. Funny the left can categorize everyone into smaller subsets, and “intersectionality” but when it’s a negative all white people get lumped together. No.  

I wasn’t aware that elite schools’ legacy programs had a financial test associated. Surely children of middle class alumni are eligible for legacy status as well?

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57 minutes ago, squistion said:

 

did MSNBC tell you to be against this?  

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7 minutes ago, squistion said:

 

lol, cornpop better get educated

colleges still have the freedom to build a diverse student body, they just cant discriminate based on race

they can give out scholarships to whoever they want.  If Harvard wants a average black kid instead of a smart asian, they can pay for it themselves, why dont you line up to be a donor?

oh you wont, youll just whine about it on a message board

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2 minutes ago, dogcows said:

I wasn’t aware that elite schools’ legacy programs had a financial test associated. Surely children of middle class alumni are eligible for legacy status as well?

Come on man. You know the best schools are full of the rich and powerful.  If you want to go to the second level then sure, there are legacies. Also not much competition for those spots.  If our society is going to be run by the graduates of the top schools, and it is, then it shouldn’t just be rich kids getting the the spots. 

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5 minutes ago, iam90sbaby said:

Another W for Rights

fixed it for you

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Clarence Thomas exemplifies the Republican way of thinking than “I got mine, F y’all”. And sure enough, Clarence Thomas got into an elite school through affirmative action, and ended up on the Supreme Court. But now he’s against it. If he’s REALLY against it, he should give back his degree and step off the court.

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This must be the feeling black people had when slavery was ended. 

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Just now, Hardcore troubadour said:

Come on man. You know the best schools are full of the rich and powerful.  If you want to go to the second level then sure, there are legacies. Also not much competition for those spots.  If our society is going to be run by the graduates of the top schools, and it is, then it shouldn’t just be rich kids getting the the spots. 

With the end of affirmative action, it will get even worse. Almost guaranteed it will just be rich kids now. If the court was going to end race-based affirmative action, they should have ended legacy programs as well. Affirmative action tilted the playing field, while legacy admissions tilted it back even further. Now that affirmative action is gone, it’s going to be extremely slanted towards the rich and well-connected.

I wonder if we can agree on one thing with this court, at least for the last 30 years, it’s that they almost always rule in favor of the wealthy.

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3 minutes ago, dogcows said:

With the end of affirmative action, it will get even worse. Almost guaranteed it will just be rich kids now. If the court was going to end race-based affirmative action, they should have ended legacy programs as well. Affirmative action tilted the playing field, while legacy admissions tilted it back even further. Now that affirmative action is gone, it’s going to be extremely slanted towards the rich and well-connected.

I wonder if we can agree on one thing with this court, at least for the last 30 years, it’s that they almost always rule in favor of the wealthy.

Why don’t the colleges just end the legacy programs? Stop acting like they are powerless victims in all of this 

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1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Why don’t the colleges just end the legacy programs? Stop acting like they are powerless victims in all of this 

I don’t think that. The colleges are the opposite of victims. They should get rid of the legacy programs for sure, but why is it the court feels they can intervene on affirmative action, but cannot intervene on legacy admissions? This decision is 100% helping the wealthy. If anything, these colleges are probably happy about this. Rich kids don’t need scholarships, and they tend to donate afterwards too. The schools probably lost money bringing in kids from disadvantaged backgrounds.

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6 minutes ago, dogcows said:

I don’t think that. The colleges are the opposite of victims. They should get rid of the legacy programs for sure, but why is it the court feels they can intervene on affirmative action, but cannot intervene on legacy admissions? This decision is 100% helping the wealthy. If anything, these colleges are probably happy about this. Rich kids don’t need scholarships, and they tend to donate afterwards too. The schools probably lost money bringing in kids from disadvantaged backgrounds.

All true. But I am not of the belief that the smartest in our society come from the one pct of the one pct. The GI Bill after WW2 showed that. But times are different  now. Back then a college degree was enough.  Now it has to be from the right place to ascend , with some exceptions.  

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Meh.  Colleges and schools will figure out a way to get what they want.  

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20 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

This must be the feeling black people had when slavery was ended. 

Do we get Junetwentyninth as a holiday?

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Another win for Trump!

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24 minutes ago, zsasz said:

Meh.  Colleges and schools will figure out a way to get what they want.  

i figure some states will just not enforce the ruling and allow colleges to keep doing it.

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My guess would be improved productivity.

 

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Best news I’ve heard in years.  Fock racism, and fock Democrats for propagating it all these years under the guise of “justice”.

The Supreme Court just sent your racist little policy straight to hell, right where it belongs.  Maybe we can finally start realizing MLK’s dream of a colorblind society.

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Based

https://www.instagram.com/p/CuFTP0eLFPO/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

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Congrats white people!  Congrats Magas!

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Just now, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Based

https://www.instagram.com/p/CuFTP0eLFPO/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Yeah they signed the declaration, and proceeded to not treat everyone equal.

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1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

Congrats white people!  Congrats Magas!

You think people should get ahead because of their race?

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3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You think people should get ahead because of their race?

No, in a perfect world, we're all equal.  But it's not a perfect world.  Affirmative actions has opened doors for black people that they never would have had.  White people are doing just fine.

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Just now, GutterBoy said:

No, in a perfect world, we're all equal.  But it's not a perfect world.  Affirmative actions has opened doors for black people that they never would have had.  White people are doing just fine.

Except the white people that earned it and we’re denied. When you give someone something based on their race you deny someone based on theirs. I wish you would be affected by race based quotas and suffer accordingly.  

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24 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Congrats white people!  Congrats Magas!

Your tears are delicious you racist Liberal puke.

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I read through the majority opinion, Thomas’ concurring opinion, and part of the dissent (so far). 

The main disagreement seems to boil down to: the conservatives believe in a colorblind ideal, and believe we must apply the law from that perspective. The liberals point out that racial inequity and discrimination are real and ongoing, and we don’t live in a colorblind utopia, so laws need to be applied to the reality of the situation.

The real reason colleges are using affirmative action is because our K-12 schools are so unequal. I think a better solution than college affirmative action is to fully integrate all K-12 schools. We have way too many schools that are essentially one race because our neighborhoods are so segregated. Sure, nobody wants to do “busing” in 2023, but if we TRULY want EQUALITY (not equity of outcomes but simply equality), then we need to make sure kids are getting equal educations. That is definitely NOT happening in present-day America. We know separate but equal doesn’t work, so let’s actually integrate K-12 schools.

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16 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I wish you would be affected by race based quotas and suffer accordingly.  

Tardcore back to wishing bad things on people.

Also how do you know I haven't been?  But I'm doing just fine, so I'm not gonna cry about anything that may or may not have happened.

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29 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Yeah they signed the declaration, and proceeded to not treat everyone equal.

Do you even know why that is?

so that democrats would join the revolution

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4 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

Do you even know why that is?

so that democrats would join the revolution

Who cares, we haven't treated everyone equal since day 1.

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1 minute ago, GutterBoy said:

Who cares, we haven't treated everyone equal since day 1.

so now isnt a good time to start?

 

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1 hour ago, JustinCharge said:

i figure some states will just not enforce the ruling and allow colleges to keep doing it.

Pretty much.  

 

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I'm good with it going away.  No one should be accepted based on their race.

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Another win for the good guys.

No ruling on student loans?  Will be get that tomorrow?

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Great news!!! And 6-3: not even close.

Hopefully this puts more than a few race grifters and race baiters out of business.

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6 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

Another win for the good guys.

No ruling on student loans?  Will be get that tomorrow?

Yep, tomorrow.

Also no gay cakes and no gay websites.

Nice way to kick off the America First Patriots Holiday weekend.