Cocaine Found in the White House - CNN Reluctantly Acknowledges it Two Days Later in an Interestingly Worded Article

[Reality 3,096]

12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Imagine still cucking yourself and still defending this crew? Just say you’re scared of Trump. Don’t defend this human filth. 

It's hilarious to watch, always the same couple of dipshlts. It breaks their hearts that the Bidens are everything they accused the Trumps of being.

Tough pill to swallow.

[nobody 2,564]

11 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Again, there's still camera's.  Again, every day, the Secret Service sweeps EVERY area outside people go.  They know exactly where and when the cocaine was left and found.  It doesn't take long to view the footage.  Go take a tour of the White House.  They are quick to tell you that everything is recorded by video.  You can clearly see a ton (but by all means, not all), of the camera's.  As I said in an earlier post, you can't fart in the White House without the S.S. knowing... they're certainly not going to miss a "white powdery substance"... nor with the dogs.  If it was a random person, be it a tourist, a maid, a gardener, what have you, that would've come out by now.  If that's the case, there's no downside to coming out on Tuesday, when it was reported, and say this is what we found, it's a small amount and we relieved that employee of their job.  Story over.  Them not saying it until 8 days after it's found is proof enough of a cover-up.

Just to be clear, I was literally the first person to say they likely already know who put it there.  I'm just saying it was probably a staffer or a visitor that a staffer knows well.    You're always so worried about being right, that you don't even know when someone is on your side. 

I'm just trying to get the story straight.  

[RogerDodger 797]

22 minutes ago, nobody said:

More likely scenario is security was just going in and were putting their own crap in the cubby and saw it.  

C'mon, we don't need to conflate it by making up things about things we already know.

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Officers found the cocaine during a routine patrol, a Secret Service official said.

 

[nobody 2,564]

2 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

C'mon, we don't need to conflate it by making up things about things we already know.

 

I just said it would've been part of a routine patrol.  Hell I think you edited that part out of my post you quoted.

[RogerDodger 797]

10 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Are they saying they don’t know who was there? I think the issue is they haven’t said who placed it there and if it is a tiny bag that you place in shared cubbies or whatever that would be more difficult. 

I'm saying that on the infinitesimally small chance the most sophisticated security camera system in the world didn't pick up the footage, they had a very short list of people to interrogate.  

[nobody 2,564]

I think i see the problem here.  I'm trying to get the story straight before shìtting on the administration.  Do I need to add some "omg Biden sucks" content to my posts?

[jerryskids 6,564]

41 minutes ago, nobody said:

I'm talking about internal to the white house.  If they make tourists drop their electronics at the front door, that further reduces the field. 

There will be unclass areas where the staffers themselves can have phones, and then areas where they can't which is where they're making this sound like people store their stuff.  

I don't know if cameras would necessarily catch someone dropping a bag of blow in one of these cubbies with their phone, but maybe.

If not, I would expect they could identify who used the coke cubby, so that should narrow it down to a very few number of people.

[RLLD 4,143]

Just now, jerryskids said:

If not, I would expect they could identify who used the coke cubby, so that should narrow it down to a very few number of people.

Temper your expectations.  They likely already know who did this.  It must have been someone the DOJ has set aside for special protections and priviledges.

[nobody 2,564]

10 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

If not, I would expect they could identify who used the coke cubby, so that should narrow it down to a very few number of people.

Agreed.  The issue would be if they didn't get it on camera, now they would have to drug test everyone who accessed the cubby in a specific window.

Then, of course, they'll probably find 10-15% of the people they test will pop a positive test.  Then how do you know? And do you want to say, "we have a drug problem on our staff, so we can't figure out who dropped this specific bag."

Or if it's a visitor, they probably aren't going to test them.

Just presenting options.

[Ultra Max Power 214]

37 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

In 2018 the ACLU wrote an article warning the the Secret Service was testing out a facial recognition camera program that would identify people OUTSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE ON THE PUBLIC SIDEWALK.

I work this effort for the DoD. It isn't impressive at all. Nothing like what people think or see in the movies. 

[thegeneral 2,908]

15 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

I'm saying that on the infinitesimally small chance the most sophisticated security camera system in the world didn't pick up the footage, they had a very short list of people to interrogate.  

How many people to question would def make a difference in how long this takes.

How many people had access, the nature of how stuff was placed in this spot should be clearly explained in this report they are doing. 

[Ultra Max Power 214]

If it was a phone cubby for a SCIF, no visitor is getting access to that SCIF. At all. 

The only way they can enter is if they have a security clearance AND a need to know information that is kept in that SCIF.

[nobody 2,564]

5 minutes ago, Ultra Max Power said:

If it was a phone cubby for a SCIF, no visitor is getting access to that SCIF. At all. 

The only way they can enter is if they have a security clearance AND a need to know information that is kept in that SCIF.

I doesn't necessarily have to be a SCIF.  It could just be a closed area.  I've escorted uncleared visitors in closed areas.  You just have to sweep the area and make sure there isn't any exposed classified info.  Ie, no monitors up... no STE calls.... no unsecured class docs out... They would still be required to drop their electronics at the door.

And it seems the rigor for protecting classified info at the white house is rather lax given that people are apparently allowed to just take boxes of classified docs to their house for years without anyone even knowing.

[TBayXXXVII 2,483]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

Maybe Saul Goodman planted it.  

Or Mark Furman.

[RogerDodger 797]

14 minutes ago, Ultra Max Power said:

I work this effort for the DoD. It isn't impressive at all. Nothing like what people think or see in the movies. 

I trust you.  Or, is that what they want you to tell us?

All I know is that 3 out of 4 airports I've traveled through this past month used facial recognition to get me through TSA.  The last international flight I took the facial recognition recognized me and let me on the plane, the boarding pass in my pocket was never used.  If they aren't using that at the White House, and instead logging people in and out on a clipboard, I'd be dumbfounded.  

[TBayXXXVII 2,483]

34 minutes ago, nobody said:

Just to be clear, I was literally the first person to say they likely already know who put it there.  I'm just saying it was probably a staffer or a visitor that a staffer knows well.    You're always so worried about being right, that you don't even know when someone is on your side. 

I'm just trying to get the story straight.  

You're misinterpreting my posts.  I do agree with you... I even responded to your first post (that our resident lefties ignored).  I'm simply saying I'm not going to buy the b.s. that they're going to spin and gave reason's why.  I'm not arguing with you.

[lickin_starfish 1,893]

Liberals: You can't PROVE the Blue Team did this. 

Also Liberals: You can't PROVE the Red Team didn't do that.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,933]

They deserve no benefit of the doubt.  That is the consequence of the life they have led.  

[dogcows 1,030]

Prediction: No matter who it turns out to be, the usual GC suspects will call it a deep state cover-up. They believe Secret Service knew who did it within 30 seconds of finding the drugs, and have been spending all the time since then making up a story.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,933]

Seth Rich Murder unsolved. 
Supreme Court leak unsolved 

Jan 6 pipe bomb unsolved 

Anyone within a mile of the capital that day hunted down and dragged in. 

[Ultra Max Power 214]

58 minutes ago, RogerDodger said:

I trust you.  Or, is that what they want you to tell us?

All I know is that 3 out of 4 airports I've traveled through this past month used facial recognition to get me through TSA.  The last international flight I took the facial recognition recognized me and let me on the plane, the boarding pass in my pocket was never used.  If they aren't using that at the White House, and instead logging people in and out on a clipboard, I'd be dumbfounded.  

So that's a bit different than the facial recognition we're working. That is a face squared up to a camera in appropriate lighting. That aspect has come along nicely.

It's the security camera aspect that has a long way to go. Facial recognition is only as smart as the amount of pixels per camera. The security ones aren't usually high definition and very rarely do people look directly into the camera. 

The human eye is 10x better at facial recognition in a crowd than AI is at the moment. 

[Patented Phil 1,469]

So now I hear Karine Jean Pierre saying that Hunter wasn’t at the White House last Friday. All the initial reports that came out on this said he was there on Friday. What is going on here does anyone know?

[Mike Honcho 5,097]

The amounted of time spent people have wasted in this thread dwarfs the street value of whatever was found in the White House.

[Strike 5,186]

They're blaming "workers" now, because the situation room near where the cocaine was found is under construction and not in use.  Sure.......

[Hardcore troubadour 14,933]

27 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

The amounted of time spent people have wasted in this thread dwarfs the street value of whatever was found in the White House.

Still not as long as the Russia Hoax thread. You were hilarious in that one. At least this one is about an actual crime. 

[Ultra Max Power 214]

 

[Patented Phil 1,469]

49 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

The amounted of time spent people have wasted in this thread dwarfs the street value of whatever was found in the White House.

It’s not about street value, numnuts. And if we’re wasting our time commenting on it, what’s that mean for the guy who’s complaining about us commenting on it?

[Patented Phil 1,469]

The White House is flat-out lying.  A week later.  The Press doesn’t care.   The Left-Tards don’t care.  THAT’S THE ISSUE HERE.

We live in a post-truth world.  And it’s about to get much worse with AI.

[thegeneral 2,908]

3 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Seth Rich Murder unsolved. 
Supreme Court leak unsolved 

Jan 6 pipe bomb unsolved 

Anyone within a mile of the capital that day hunted down and dragged in. 

They are only about halfway through tracking all those dopes down. It helped that the majority of them were posting about it on Facebook

Don’t think the WH coke head is doing that.

[RogerDodger 797]

43 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Still not as long as the Russia Hoax thread. You were hilarious in that one. At least this one is about an actual crime. 

18 minutes ago, Patented Phil said:

It’s not about street value, numnuts. And if we’re wasting our time commenting on it, what’s that mean for the guy who’s complaining about us commenting on it?

[RogerDodger 797]

51 minutes ago, Strike said:

They're blaming "workers" now, because the situation room near where the cocaine was found is under construction and not in use.  Sure.......

I'm fairly confident you're supposed to be drug tested to get security clearance.  I'm 100% positive any construction working under contract with the federal government is drug tested.

[Patented Phil 1,469]

KJP didn’t make a mistake there.  She knew that it was widely reported that Hunter was in the White House Friday evening, less than 48 hours before the blow was found.  She lied.  Through the skin of her teeth.   While she lectured a reporter for acting an entirely appropriate question.

She also lied the other day about where the coke was found.  We now know the coke was found in the other West Wing entrance - you know - the more secure one that White House staffers, family, friends, and guests use.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,933]

1 minute ago, Patented Phil said:

KJP didn’t make a mistake there.  She knew that it was widely reported that Hunter was in the White House Friday evening, less than 48 hours before the blow was found.  She lied.  Through the skin of her teeth.   While she lectured a reporter for acting an entirely appropriate question.

She also lied the other day about where the coke was found.  We now know the coke was found in the other West Wing entrance - you know - the more secure one that White House staffers, family, friends, and guests use.

You think she lies on her own or does someone like Dr. Jill tell her to? 

[Patented Phil 1,469]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You think she lies on her own or does someone like Dr. Jill tell her to? 

That’s a good question.  I don’t think there’s any way that KGP would lie like that on her own.  In normal times she would lose her job for uttering two huge lies like this.

[Engorgeous George 2,126]

I could go for an  right about now.

[lickin_starfish 1,893]

What ever happened to those free crack pipes the government was going to give out? I never got mine.

[Blue Horseshoe 348]

2 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You think she lies on her own or does someone like Dr. Jill tell her to? 

 

Three things going on 

1) KJP is incompetent at this level. At a lower level of media optics, she might be perfectly fine day to day. To be fair, this is a tough job no matter what

2) This administration is completely indefensible. It's a disaster zone. So they aren't giving KJP much to work with here. So in that regard, I do have a slight sliver of professional sympathy for her here. And she has gotten better in a relative sense. She's still not good at being WHPS, but she is clearly better now than when she started. That's not much movement upward, but it's still movement. At least she's trying to better her skill set

3) The questions are nearly all pre submitted and pre selected before hand. The exceptions are Peter Doocy and Jacqui Heinrich of Fox News. Simon Ateba and a few other fringe journalists. The "fringe" get to ask a question so rarely, that they are incentivized to ask a big aggressive one if they do get called on to submit one. In effect, KJP and even Psaki were mostly hitting softballs. 

This is a very hard job, and there's a full staff that does "mock runs" of the various questions that might get asked and how to respond to them. 

My take is, over time, more people will appreciate the great job that Kayleigh McEnany did during her short run as WHPS. She was attacked from the start and had to go through J6. And she had to try to defend a lot of things that just were either indefensible or typical Trump psychotic behavior. 

Neera Tanden informally runs day to day policy for the White House. She essentially replaced the ousted Susan Rice in the role of primary decision maker for the administration. Jill Biden only has influence as the "gatekeeper" for Joe Biden. Tanden operates at the behest of big donor corporate interests. Raytheon and Big Pharma have bigger say in what's spoken than KJP does. This is why the DNC abhors the podcast format. It's impossible to control the tangents and array of possible secondary questions. 

[KSB2424 3,148]

6 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Seth Rich Murder unsolved. 
Supreme Court leak unsolved 

Jan 6 pipe bomb unsolved 

Anyone within a mile of the capital that day hunted down and dragged in. 

Absolutely no idea where Covid derived from.  It’s a complete mystery.  Okay.

[KSB2424 3,148]

6 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Seth Rich Murder unsolved. 
Supreme Court leak unsolved 

Jan 6 pipe bomb unsolved 

Anyone within a mile of the capital that day hunted down and dragged in. 

Jeffrey Epstein and Gishale Maxwhatever caught.  But somehow, someway all the rich and powerful people who focked all the underage kids cannot be found. It’s an enigma wrapped in a conundrum.  Impossible to find out. Yeah, okay.   

[KSB2424 3,148]

4 hours ago, Mike Honcho said:

The amounted of time spent people have wasted in this thread dwarfs the street value of whatever was found in the White House.

It’s not the crime, it’s the completely obvious cover up.  HTH.