Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted September 6, 2023 There's a really good chance they just destroyed their company. Way worse than what Bud Light did. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,269 Posted September 6, 2023 More like Liberty Safe follows standard protocol again, nobody cares. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 3,191 Posted September 6, 2023 What wrong did they do that might destroy them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,775 Posted September 6, 2023 I’m interested in hearing more about the feds turning off the security cameras Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted September 6, 2023 Juast hide your guns under bags of cocaine....its like an invisibility cloak 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,269 Posted September 6, 2023 1 minute ago, RLLD said: Juast hide your guns under bags of cocaine....its like an invisibility cloak Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,017 Posted September 6, 2023 So they did nothing wrong. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted September 6, 2023 7 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: So they did nothing wrong. Conservatives are not happy about this. Now they know their guns are no longer protected from being taken by authorities. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,906 Posted September 6, 2023 For the record conservatives don't cancel. They stop buying or consuming the product. Also checking right-wing boards nobody cares and this kind of thing is expected. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted September 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Cdub100 said: For the record conservatives don't cancel. They stop buying or consuming the product. Also checking right-wing boards nobody cares and this kind of thing is expected. The same social media accounts that went crazy about BL are doing the same against Liberty Safe now. I'm seeing plenty of people upset by this online. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra Max Power 214 Posted September 6, 2023 Well there are two problems here. #1 is that Liberty gave info on how to open their safe to law enforcement. It's a bad company policy regardless what company. #2 that there is a universal backdoor to their safes. That's a pretty massive security flaw. Bottomline, there are better options out there. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted September 6, 2023 4 minutes ago, Ultra Max Power said: Well there are two problems here. #1 is that Liberty gave info on how to open their safe to law enforcement. It's a bad company policy regardless what company. #2 that there is a universal backdoor to their safes. That's a pretty massive security flaw. Bottomline, there are better options out there. People are now realizing this and it's going to hurt Liberty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra Max Power 214 Posted September 6, 2023 2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: People are now realizing this and it's going to hurt Liberty. Yep. I've never owned a liberty, but if they were not transparent about a backdoor code, all owners have the right to be passed about that. It's borderline unethical. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,400 Posted September 6, 2023 The big ole government didn’t take the “preverbal” guys guns. He is likely a felon and must surrender his guns. What am I missing? 1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said: Conservatives are not happy about this. Now they know their guns are no longer protected from being taken by authorities. And by conservatives you mean tweeters. Bwahahahahah Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted September 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Alias Detective said: The big ole government didn’t take the “preverbal” guys guns. He is likely a felon and must surrender his guns. What am I missing? The fact that the feds have access to it just by asking the company for the passcode. Kind of defeats one of the purposes of having a gun safe. I would think most gun owners would be upset with this. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted September 6, 2023 Is this standard practice for safe companies? I honestly don't know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,400 Posted September 6, 2023 36 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: The fact that the feds have access to it just by asking the company for the passcode. Kind of defeats one of the purposes of having a gun safe. I would think most gun owners would be upset with this. Gun safes aren’t for keeping the feds out dummy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted September 6, 2023 1 minute ago, Alias Detective said: Gun safes aren’t for keeping the feds out dummy. Tell that to the people who are pissed off. I'm just sharing the story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,017 Posted September 6, 2023 The federal government can do whatever they want. Just look at what they instructed the DOJ to do to Trump for the last 8 years. 2 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,400 Posted September 6, 2023 15 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Tell that to the people who are pissed off. I'm just sharing the story. A few tweeters you are talking about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra Max Power 214 Posted September 6, 2023 47 minutes ago, Alias Detective said: Gun safes aren’t for keeping the feds out dummy. It's for keeping everyone out. Safes don't belong to the company anymore, so they don't need a say in anything that happens after. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
easilyscan 924 Posted September 6, 2023 The U.S. government has asked us for something we simply do not have, and something we consider too dangerous to create. They have asked us to build a backdoor to the iPhone. https://www.apple.com/customer-letter/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,099 Posted September 6, 2023 10 minutes ago, easilyscan said: The U.S. government has asked us for something we simply do not have, and something we consider too dangerous to create. They have asked us to build a backdoor to the iPhone. https://www.apple.com/customer-letter/ BOOM!!! Liberty Safe just guaranteed their end. They should probably get those bankruptcy papers filled out early to prepare ahead of time. No way they survive this. Especially - and on top of - after they make regular people pay for a locksmith but then hand the backdoor right to the Feds for free. F@ck them. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ultra Max Power 214 Posted September 6, 2023 Republicans are about to subpeona Joe Bidens private emails that were used to conduct his personal business. Should Google comply? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,099 Posted September 6, 2023 6 minutes ago, Ultra Max Power said: Republicans are about to subpeona Joe Bidens private emails that were used to conduct his personal business. Should Google comply? Didn't they do the same to Trump? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted September 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Alias Detective said: A few tweeters you are talking about. https://x.com/hodgetwins/status/1699571481687048487?s=46&t=4Iq5cSgBUS77gR-9rz9UVg https://x.com/collinrugg/status/1699455774576324740?s=46&t=4Iq5cSgBUS77gR-9rz9UVg https://x.com/timcast/status/1699445529275400338?s=46&t=4Iq5cSgBUS77gR-9rz9UVg https://x.com/drsuffy/status/1699442351046009114?s=46&t=4Iq5cSgBUS77gR-9rz9UVg https://x.com/mac_arms/status/1699528695940042936?s=46&t=4Iq5cSgBUS77gR-9rz9UVg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,870 Posted September 7, 2023 1 hour ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: BOOM!!! Liberty Safe just guaranteed their end. They should probably get those bankruptcy papers filled out early to prepare ahead of time. No way they survive this. Especially - and on top of - after they make regular people pay for a locksmith but then hand the backdoor right to the Feds for free. F@ck them. Yep. Liberty is done. This is a HUGE deal with the folks that actually buy safes. All over the major gun boards today 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted September 7, 2023 I don't own one, but never would knowing they have a backdoor like that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shorepatrol 1,870 Posted September 7, 2023 11 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said: I don't own one, but never would knowing they have a backdoor like that Not a single soul would've bought a Liberty safe if that info was disclosed. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alias Detective 1,400 Posted September 7, 2023 I guess y’all have a different idea of what a gun safe is used for. I can’t imagine a circumstance where the FBI would come to my door requesting to see what’s inside. anyway. You be you and I’ll be me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,936 Posted September 7, 2023 31 minutes ago, Alias Detective said: I can’t imagine a circumstance where the FBI would come to my door requesting to see what’s inside. Post on a conservative forum or walk around the Capitol at the wrong time, and wait for your door to get kicked in. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,348 Posted September 7, 2023 55 minutes ago, Alias Detective said: I guess y’all have a different idea of what a gun safe is used for. I can’t imagine a circumstance where the FBI would come to my door requesting to see what’s inside. anyway. You be you and I’ll be me. You do realize they don’t only make gun safes right? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RogerDodger 798 Posted September 7, 2023 5 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said: The same social media accounts that went crazy about BL are doing the same against Liberty Safe now. I'm seeing plenty of people upset by this online. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted September 7, 2023 15 minutes ago, RogerDodger said: What? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Blue Horseshoe 348 Posted September 7, 2023 7 hours ago, weepaws said: What wrong did they do that might destroy them? Part of the issue is the slippery slope. When Eric Garcetti was Mayor of LA, he attempted to turn off electricity and water access to residents who wouldn't get the COVID19 vaccination. Garcetti tried to spin that by saying he was only shutting it down for "large unsanctioned parties" but he and Gavin Newsom both avoided the issue that the entire film industry was allowed to continue working and "gathering" while most other businesses and schools were locked down. Hollywood is basically a money printing machine for political donations for the DNC. So the question becomes what happens when everyone is forced to have a Ring doorbell/front door lock. Or everyone is forced to have an electric car. Or they take away all gas stoves and everything has heavy technology inside of it that can be "bricked" Including, the nightmare scenario, a true "cashless society" Imagine if your Christian views were seen as some form of "terrorism" one day, they backtrace you, then shut off your water line. Then your power. Then send a remote signal to "brick" your electric car. Then decide to freeze your "bank account" ( like happened in Canada) so you cannot do things like pay your rent or buy food. Or decide your car will shut down if you attempt to visit a certain city or place, or to a specific venue. It's the same reason Biden ( really Obama) demanded so many new IRS agents being hired and trained. They want your guns, your access, your information, then your free speech, your hope and the future of your children too. Consider the "Proscription" in ancient Rome. Octavian, the nephew of Julius Caesar, had a power sharing arrangement with Antony and Lepidus. To cement that power, they sent out assassins to kill an endless number of people who they felt couldn't be trusted nor be totally controlled. Lepidus had to write down the name of his own brother to show his loyalty and assure his own 1/3rd of the power. Those who tried to escape, anyone who was caught "aiding" them were killed as well. And their families. So the future will hold that once the government takes away your access to buy food, they'll threaten death, prison and suffering for someone like me or someone else here who would do something as "evil" as simply feeding you. Or giving you shelter. Or giving you a warm coat after you've been locked out of your own home. It's not just forsaking the teachings of Jesus and God. It's not just an attack on true freedom. It's not just an attack on the many good men who gave their lives so we could be born into liberty. It's a promise that they simply want you dead for the crime of disagreeing. God gave us free will. The current "Left" wants to try take that away, just like the Pharisees did. And they are willing to kill you, me, everyone here and all our children first, to see that become their new "utopia" 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted September 7, 2023 This is what customers expect from their gun safe. https://x.com/secureitstorage/status/1699506045716992055?s=46&t=4Iq5cSgBUS77gR-9rz9UVg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,099 Posted September 7, 2023 I don't know if we've ever seen something like this before. Wave after wave after wave of companies are destroying everything they built by betraying the very customers that got them where they are. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KSB2424 3,148 Posted September 7, 2023 Define "Safe". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 4,099 Posted September 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said: That's not the f'n point to all you lefties out there who think this isn't a big deal. We realize you LOVE big gubment and you're willing to give up everything to them, but not the rest of us. Just think if the Founding Fathers of our country had the same attitude as you - just give up and do nothing because "They can do whatever they want anyways". We'd still be a British colony under colonial rule. I mean, how do you not realize this? Are you lefties that shallow that you can't think past your nose? Or even realize what is actually going on here instead of the easy, talking-points version? UPDATE: This is not directed at you, Hawkeye, but that Krassenstein moron. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites