it’s okay to murder a baby in the womb when ?

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

4 hours ago, weepaws said:

Right, it’s never okay.  Ever.  

So if your son raped your daughter, the fetus was a deformed mess that could not live outside the womb and doctors tell you that your daughter would die during childbirth, you'd still think she should carry the baby to term.

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

3 hours ago, weepaws said:

Perfect spot for God’s Word.  

Proverbs 26:4.  Do not answer a Fool according to his folly, or you will be just like him.  Yea sorry. Fool. 

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Then Jesus said, “Whoever says, 'You fool,' shall be guilty enough to go into fiery hell” (Matthew 5:22c). 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,937]

35 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

This is where I am.  

I make a distinction that life <> "alive" that HT and others don't seem to.  They go to far by equating it to murder - as you ask, how does one murder something that isn't alive? 

Yes, it's human.  Yes, it's life.  No, it's not alive until we are talking the usual stuff around the viability line.  

Another delusional fantasy Rusty has about me. It’s getting weird now how he makes things up. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

16 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Another delusional fantasy Rusty has about me. It’s getting weird now how he makes things up. 

You're the king of information fabrication, brought to you by HTNN, and making weak gaslighting attempts to deflect actual facts about things you've said.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,937]

37 minutes ago, Pimpadeaux said:

You're the king of information fabrication, brought to you by HTNN, and making weak gaslighting attempts to deflect actual facts about things you've said.

Grown man, nearly a senior citizen mind you, can’t hold himself accountable for his own actions. Sad. 

[weepaws 3,157]

2 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

So if your son raped your daughter, the fetus was a deformed mess that could not live outside the womb and doctors tell you that your daughter would die during childbirth, you'd still think she should carry the baby to term.

1. Never would happen, my family isn’t dysfunctional like yours, so I’m sure you have to deal with that everyday, probably the reason why you check out by going to baseball games.  

2. Very very little abortion are because of a horrible situation.  

3. Let’s make this more realistic, if your daughter had sex came to you saying she is pregnant, and that she simply doesn’t want the baby, in which is the most common reason why woman murder their unborn babies, Would you support the murder of a grandchild, or would you go against your daughter decision to murder your grandchild. If you support you believe that murder is good, if you don’t agree with her you are a hypocrite.  

Now that is the most common reason why woman get abortion, they don’t want to accountable for their lack of wisdom in decision making at that moment.  

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

3 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Grown man, nearly a senior citizen mind you, can’t hold himself accountable for his own actions. Sad. 

Like scouring the Internet for information on another Geek's past and present relationships?

Oh wait, that was you!

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

1 hour ago, weepaws said:

1. Never would happen, my family isn’t dysfunctional like yours, so I’m sure you have to deal with that everyday, probably the reason why you check out by going to baseball games.  

2. Very very little abortion are because of a horrible situation.  

3. Let’s make this more realistic, if your daughter had sex came to you saying she is pregnant, and that she simply doesn’t want the baby, in which is the most common reason why woman murder their unborn babies, Would you support the murder of a grandchild, or would you go against your daughter decision to murder your grandchild. If you support you believe that murder is good, if you don’t agree with her you are a hypocrite.  

Now that is the most common reason why woman get abortion, they don’t want to accountable for their lack of wisdom in decision making at that moment.  

1.) You're judging my family and making an assumption that it is dysfunctional. You're wrong. And what's wrong with going to a baseball game? 

2.) It doesn't matter how little it is, in my example, you would force the poor girl to carry a horribly deformed product of rape and incest to term, and both it and the mother die during delivery. That's sick as well as murder, because you're forcing a death sentence on the mother.

3.) Your information doesn't contain enough facts. How old is the daughter? Is she 13 or 31? Also, you're making assumptions about my abortion position. You obviously have no idea what it is and yet cast judgment.

You're the worst kind of Christian - a judgmental, bully-pulpit Christian who name-calls (fool, dysfuctional, hypocrite, etc.), hides behind Bible verses and exercises the very same hypocrisy that you project onto others.

And you wonder why Christianity and religion in general is in a free fall in this country.

Take a look in the mirror, and you'll see why.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,937]

1 hour ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Like scouring the Internet for information on another Geek's past and present relationships?

Oh wait, that was you!

You flatter yourself.  I’m not that interested. 

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

You flatter yourself.  I’m not that interested. 

I've already proven that you are, with your creepy-Internet-cultivated hair colors of blonde, brunette and blue. 

Sick. 

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

10 hours ago, weepaws said:

1. Never would happen, my family isn’t dysfunctional like yours, so I’m sure you have to deal with that everyday, probably the reason why you check out by going to baseball games.  

2. Very very little abortion are because of a horrible situation.  

3. Let’s make this more realistic, if your daughter had sex came to you saying she is pregnant, and that she simply doesn’t want the baby, in which is the most common reason why woman murder their unborn babies, Would you support the murder of a grandchild, or would you go against your daughter decision to murder your grandchild. If you support you believe that murder is good, if you don’t agree with her you are a hypocrite.  

Now that is the most common reason why woman get abortion, they don’t want to accountable for their lack of wisdom in decision making at that moment.  

How many babies have you murdered from rubbing one off to the Victoria's Secret ad?

[Mike Honcho 5,097]

14 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

So if your son raped your daughter, the fetus was a deformed mess that could not live outside the womb and doctors tell you that your daughter would die during childbirth, you'd still think she should carry the baby to term.

 

11 hours ago, weepaws said:

1. Never would happen, my family isn’t dysfunctional like yours, so I’m sure you have to deal with that everyday, probably the reason why you check out by going to baseball games.  

2. Very very little abortion are because of a horrible situation.  

3. Let’s make this more realistic, if your daughter had sex came to you saying she is pregnant, and that she simply doesn’t want the baby, in which is the most common reason why woman murder their unborn babies, Would you support the murder of a grandchild, or would you go against your daughter decision to murder your grandchild. If you support you believe that murder is good, if you don’t agree with her you are a hypocrite.  

Now that is the most common reason why woman get abortion, they don’t want to accountable for their lack of wisdom in decision making at that moment.  

Weepaws refuses to answer hypothetical, but expects other to answer hypothetical.  That's a bold strategy Cotton, we'll have to see how it works out. 

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

1 minute ago, Mike Honcho said:

 

Weepaws refuses to answer hypothetical, but expects other to answer hypothetical. 

There's a good amount of posters here who think it's their way or no way at all.  Not very many that are open to other viewpoints. 

[BuckSwope 654]

5 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

 

Weepaws refuses to answer hypothetical, but expects other to answer hypothetical. 

That happens so much in these threads.  

[Mike Honcho 5,097]

2 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said:

There's a good amount of posters here who think it's their way or no way at all.  Not very many that are open to other viewpoints. 

I just get annoyed by inconsistencies in logic. 

 

[jerryskids 6,567]

39 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

I just get annoyed by inconsistencies in logic. 

 

Like the Left often does, Rusty likes to legislate from extremes.  I've often advocated a "zero plus" approach, where the default is no abortions but exceptions can be made.  So in that model, if your son raped your daughter, the fetus was a deformed mess that could not live outside the womb and doctors tell you that your daughter would die during childbirth, you can have an abortion.  To make it more practical and have an adult discussion vs. a Rusty discussion, risk to the health of the mother should be a factor.   

[TBayXXXVII 2,484]

21 hours ago, lickin_starfish said:

If a man wants a woman to abort, and she wants to keep the baby, then the man should not have to pay child support.

The reason why this would be a great idea is because it would force women to be accountable for their actions.

[jerryskids 6,567]

What I really think though is:  there is a difference between what you should be ABLE to do vs. what you SHOULD do.  You should be able to protest military funerals like Westboro Baptist Church did, but that doesn't mean you should do it.  With abortion, you should be able to ultimately make the decision for you and your family, but we as a society should not celebrate it, should not tell you it's no big deal, should not make it easy on you emotionally.  You should be made well aware that you are ending a human life if you abort that child, not this bullshiot about "it's a fetus not a life$#@!".  If you still choose to do it, so be it.  We should create a culture that values and respects the unborn.

Unless the fetus is viable outside of the womb, then for sure it is a no-go.   

[TBayXXXVII 2,484]

20 hours ago, Baker Boy said:

Why did the petition say abortion rather than murder? The purpose was to deceive. You asked them a question about abortion and changed the narrative to murder after the polling was over.

did you mention in your discussions that you can’t have an abortion after birth, or did you ever use the word murder?

where I come from these are not the acts of Christian. Amen

I'll say this, in his defense.  Wasn't it Virginia, not too long ago, kicking around the idea of post-birth "abortion"?

[TBayXXXVII 2,484]

20 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

It’s never OK to murder a baby ever. A fetus is not a baby. It is part of a woman’s body. A woman should be allowed to make decisions about her body without the state being involved unless we are dealing with a public health emergency. 

Sounds good.  Should she have to pay to get something removed from her body or do we have to pay?

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

26 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Like the Left often does, Rusty likes to legislate from extremes.  I've often advocated a "zero plus" approach, where the default is no abortions but exceptions can be made.  So in that model, if your son raped your daughter, the fetus was a deformed mess that could not live outside the womb and doctors tell you that your daughter would die during childbirth, you can have an abortion.  To make it more practical and have an adult discussion vs. a Rusty discussion, risk to the health of the mother should be a factor.   

Likewise, banning abortion altogether is an extremist right position. My point being that even in the most extreme situation, the far right still wouldn't allow it. That's barbaric, and you can't deny that rape and incest happens. Statistics show that one in 30 women are raped annually. 

Abortion is morally reprehensible with the exception of rape, incest and mother's health, but I support a woman's right to choose during the first trimester. 

 

[Cloaca du jour 2,147]

My moms vajajay was sooooooo big.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How big was it???

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I had a womb with a view!!!

[Fnord 2,051]

2 hours ago, jerryskids said:

What I really think though is:  there is a difference between what you should be ABLE to do vs. what you SHOULD do.  You should be able to protest military funerals like Westboro Baptist Church did, but that doesn't mean you should do it. 

Fuk yeah. Preach Jerry!

This is where I land on most of these partisan issues, especially when it come to free speech vs. woke ideology and cancel culture. You have a right to say what you want, with very limited exceptions (calling in a bomb threat, for example). That does not mean you SHOULD say whatever stupid thought comes to mind. It also doesn't mean that you get to hide behind the cloak of 1A after saying something abhorrent, and you can't moan about people getting canceled or publicly called out because that's just the cancelers exercising their own rights.

American Neo Nazis have every right to peacefully march and demonstrate. And I have the right to counter-protest and call them out for being stupid fascist pigs. Freedom rules. More of it please.

[OldMaid 2,129]

2 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Fuk yeah. Preach Jerry!

This is where I land on most of these partisan issues, especially when it come to free speech vs. woke ideology and cancel culture. You have a right to say what you want, with very limited exceptions (calling in a bomb threat, for example). That does not mean you SHOULD say whatever stupid thought comes to mind. It also doesn't mean that you get to hide behind the cloak of 1A after saying something abhorrent, and you can't moan about people getting canceled or publicly called out because that's just the cancelers exercising their own rights.

American Neo Nazis have every right to peacefully march and demonstrate. And I have the right to counter-protest and call them out for being stupid fascist pigs. Freedom rules. More of it please.

Honestly, I think that is what most of us rational people believe. But there’s too many attention seeking wh0res on this board that would rather slap fight than to actually discuss something intelligently. After about the 100th time your position keeps getting misrepresented by these clowns it’s almost impossible not to sink to their level. Add in the fact that they seem to outnumber everyone, most either give up and stop posting or start poo flinging themselves. 

[wiffleball 4,788]

22 hours ago, OldMaid said:

I hear it pairs well with fava beans, and a nice Chianti. Works well as a substitute for liver.

People Veal. 

[wiffleball 4,788]

...only with the expressed written 

Consent....

 

Ah, forget it!

[OldMaid 2,129]

1 minute ago, wiffleball said:

...only with the expressed written 

Consent....

 

Ah, forget it!

pity

[jerryskids 6,567]

18 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Fuk yeah. Preach Jerry!

This is where I land on most of these partisan issues, especially when it come to free speech vs. woke ideology and cancel culture. You have a right to say what you want, with very limited exceptions (calling in a bomb threat, for example). That does not mean you SHOULD say whatever stupid thought comes to mind. It also doesn't mean that you get to hide behind the cloak of 1A after saying something abhorrent, and you can't moan about people getting canceled or publicly called out because that's just the cancelers exercising their own rights.

American Neo Nazis have every right to peacefully march and demonstrate. And I have the right to counter-protest and call them out for being stupid fascist pigs. Freedom rules. More of it please.

To be clear, I view it like entitlements like welfare - they only work in a society where people use them as a last resort, not because they want their body to look good on that upcoming cruise.

[lickin_starfish 1,893]

2 hours ago, Cloaca du jour said:

My moms vajajay was sooooooo big.

That's what I think of when I see soccer moms driving those huge SUV's. I assume that they are compensating for huge vajayjay syndrome.

[GutterBoy 2,898]

The other night, I was going down on my GF and I said, Damn you have such a big puzzy . Damn you have such a big puzzy .

She said I know, but why did you say it twice?

I told her I didn't.

[TBayXXXVII 2,484]

1 hour ago, Fnord said:

Fuk yeah. Preach Jerry!

This is where I land on most of these partisan issues, especially when it come to free speech vs. woke ideology and cancel culture. You have a right to say what you want, with very limited exceptions (calling in a bomb threat, for example). That does not mean you SHOULD say whatever stupid thought comes to mind. It also doesn't mean that you get to hide behind the cloak of 1A after saying something abhorrent, and you can't moan about people getting canceled or publicly called out because that's just the cancelers exercising their own rights.

American Neo Nazis have every right to peacefully march and demonstrate. And I have the right to counter-protest and call them out for being stupid fascist pigs. Freedom rules. More of it please.

As long as she's paying for it and the guy has a say as well, I won't complain one bit.  With respect to the guy having a say, I harken back to what @lickin_starfish said.  The problem takes care of itself for the most part if the women are more responsible with their decision making.

I see abortions as elective surgery.  It doesn't belong in the political/governmental arena.  Like all other elective surgery's, the government does NOT foot the bill, the individual does.

[BuckSwope 654]

Just now, TBayXXXVII said:

As long as she's paying for it and the guy has a say as well, I won't complain one bit.  With respect to the guy having a say, I harken back to what @lickin_starfish said.  The problem takes care of itself for the most part if the women are more responsible with their decision making.

I see abortions as elective surgery.  It doesn't belong in the political/governmental arena.  Like all other elective surgery's, the government does NOT foot the bill, the individual does.

I saw that post too, but come on- 90% of guys in a mistake scenario will probably just go to the "I told her to get an abortion" defense.  I understand the sentiment, but it couldn't be applied in real life. 

[TBayXXXVII 2,484]

11 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

I saw that post too, but come on- 90% of guys in a mistake scenario will probably just go to the "I told her to get an abortion" defense.  I understand the sentiment, but it couldn't be applied in real life. 

I'm ok with it if it's 100%.  Maybe women will stop giving it up, just because they want to have a good time.  The majority of abortions are women/girls up to the age of 30, and are generally single and/or already have a child.  Meaning, it's women who are primarily not very responsible.  Make them think twice before they go out and add another tick mark on the body count.  It also has a side affect of helping men who are targeted by gold diggers.

To note, the man has to have a notarized legal document stating that he told the girl/woman to get the abortion.  The action, must be witnessed.  He can't just show up in family court and say "Your honor, I shouldn't have to pay child support because I told her to get an abortion".  Nor can he say, "My friend witnessed me tell her".

[posty 2,612]

36 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

The other night, I was going down on my GF and I said, Damn you have such a big puzzy . Damn you have such a big puzzy .

She said I know, but why did you say it twice?

I told her I didn't.

It was funny when Predator did it...

[BuckSwope 654]

5 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I'm ok with it if it's 100%.  Maybe women will stop giving it up, just because they want to have a good time.  The majority of abortions are women/girls up to the age of 30, and are generally single and/or already have a child.  Meaning, it's women who are primarily not very responsible.  Make them think twice before they go out and add another tick mark on the body count.  It also has a side affect of helping men who are targeted by gold diggers.

To note, the man has to have a notarized legal document stating that he told the girl/woman to get the abortion.  The action, must be witnessed.  He can't just show up in family court and say "Your honor, I shouldn't have to pay child support because I told her to get an abortion".  Nor can he say, "My friend witnessed me tell her".

Cool, we don't agree then.  I shouldn't be surprised.  

[BuckSwope 654]

Last I looked at stats, moat also reported being on birth control, which points to there being some level of responsibility and planning.  

[TBayXXXVII 2,484]

2 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

Cool, we don't agree then.  I shouldn't be surprised.  

Nor am I.  Leftists rarely agree with me.  

[BuckSwope 654]

41 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Nor am I.  Leftists rarely agree with me.