Nothing on New Mex Governor gun ban?

[The Real timschochet 6,443]

1 minute ago, Dizkneelande said:

Regardless of your out of context CNN article can you point to an actual constitutional violation or is innuendo all you have? The fifth circuit just ruled Biden violated the first amendment. If you can’t give an example of an actual violation then sit down and shut up. 

Lol why don’t you shut up? 

Your arguments are lame, and your points are stupid. You have no answer for my CNN articles- out of context my a$$. What an embarrassment you are. (Though I’m sure some of the usual suspect doofuses will stick up for you.) 

[Dizkneelande 1,085]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Lol why don’t you shut up? 

Your arguments are lame, and your points are stupid. You have no answer for my CNN articles- out of context my a$$. What an embarrassment you are. (Though I’m sure some of the usual suspect doofuses will stick up for you.) 

You’re such a clown. Can’t give an example of a constitutional violation because there are not any. Yet Biden and this tyrant do it in the open and get tagged by the courts. Run along good little authoritarian a-hole.

[The Real timschochet 6,443]

Here is a whole list of Trump’s violations of the Constitution while in office, compiled by the libertarian Cato Institute: 

https://www.cato.org/commentary/exit-survey-trumps-constitutional-misdeeds

He never gave a crap about the Constitution and now he openly wants to get rid of it. And you guys support him anyhow and then you whine and complain about the Constitution. You’re all the worst sort of hypocrites. 

[The Real timschochet 6,443]

6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Here is a whole list of Trump’s violations of the Constitution while in office, compiled by the libertarian Cato Institute: 

https://www.cato.org/commentary/exit-survey-trumps-constitutional-misdeeds

He never gave a crap about the Constitution and now he openly wants to get rid of it. And you guys support him anyhow and then you whine and complain about the Constitution. You’re all the worst sort of hypocrites. 

The above post is a list of Trump’s violations of the Constitution from a conservative, libertarian perspective. Here is a analysis of the same overall subject from a more liberal perspective: 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/12/06/trump-constitution-is-malleable/

The issues are certainly different based on priorities from either side: but the conclusion is basically the same: no President in our history has ever so disrespected the Constitution as Donald Trump, not even close. And now he wants to get rid of it altogether. How can any true patriot vote for this man? I honestly don’t get it. 

[Dizkneelande 1,085]

9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Here is a whole list of Trump’s violations of the Constitution while in office, compiled by the libertarian Cato Institute: 

https://www.cato.org/commentary/exit-survey-trumps-constitutional-misdeeds

He never gave a crap about the Constitution and now he openly wants to get rid of it. And you guys support him anyhow and then you whine and complain about the Constitution. You’re all the worst sort of hypocrites. 

You missed this part from never trumper Shapiro -

“First, in many cases, when people claim that Trump’s actions violated the Constitution, they’re really pointing to a move with which they disagree, or a move that broke norms but not laws, or even just outrageous rhetoric.”

Still waiting for examples of 1st, 2nd, 4th, 6th and 10th violations like the left has been getting tagged on. 

 

[Dizkneelande 1,085]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

The above post is a list of Trump’s violations of the Constitution from a conservative, libertarian perspective. Here is a analysis of the same overall subject from a more liberal perspective: 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/12/06/trump-constitution-is-malleable/

The issues are certainly different based on priorities from either side: but the conclusion is basically the same: no President in our history has ever so disrespected the Constitution as Donald Trump, not even close. And now he wants to get rid of it altogether. How can any true patriot vote for this man? I honestly don’t get it. 

I mean Biden violated the 1st amendment but who’s keeping score sh!tlib?

[Pimpadeaux 2,404]

Funny how MAGAgturds whine about states' rights but then get their collective panties in a wad when they are executed in ways they don't like.

MAGAturds:

STATES ARE BANNING ABORTION! 

A STATE IS BANNING OPEN CARRY AND CONCEALED GUNS IN PUBLIC PLACES IN ONE COUNTY TO CURB VIOLENCE AND FENTANYL! 

[Stryker Ryker 188]

39 minutes ago, MTSkiBum said:

 

That is a little more extreme than I expected from you. Although admittedly I skip reading a lot of political threads.

No there are a few things I believe ppl deserve death over: rape, pedophilia, murder, torture, treason, and dictatorship. She is the start of the dictatorship and people like that should be executed publicly as a warning that if you try to form a dictatorship you WILL die. Cause having her and people like her in power is VERY dangerous. 

[Fireballer 2,639]

22 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

 

Your arguments are lame, and your points are stupid. 

Irony to the greatest degree, maybe ever, at the the Geek Club

[The Real timschochet 6,443]

1 minute ago, Fireballer said:

Irony to the greatest degree, maybe ever, at the the Geek Club

Lol for you maybe 

[Stryker Ryker 188]

Already seeing where Sheriffs are saying they aren’t going to enforce her unconstitutional “words”. Cause that’s all they are: words

[BuckSwope 654]

2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Sure. 

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2022/12/03/politics/trump-constitution-truth-social/index.html

Biden’s actions could be interpreted by some as interfering with the 1st Amendment. Others will disagree. Trump however has said he wants to do away with the Constitution. That’s a very different animal. 

Come on tim, he was probably just joking when he wrote that.   

[IGotWorms 4,057]

1 hour ago, Stryker Ryker said:

No there are a few things I believe ppl deserve death over: rape, pedophilia, murder, torture, treason, and dictatorship. She is the start of the dictatorship and people like that should be executed publicly as a warning that if you try to form a dictatorship you WILL die. Cause having her and people like her in power is VERY dangerous. 

You’re nuts

[BuckSwope 654]

1 hour ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Funny how MAGAgturds whine about states' rights but then get their collective panties in a wad when they are executed in ways they don't like.

MAGAturds:

STATES ARE BANNING ABORTION! 

A STATE IS BANNING OPEN CARRY AND CONCEALED GUNS IN PUBLIC PLACES IN ONE COUNTY TO CURB VIOLENCE AND FENTANYL! 

She is wrong to do it how she is doing it, but I will largely agree with what you are saying.   They are able to hide behind how she did it, but we know they would be saying the same thing if it was passed in the correct way.   

[Stryker Ryker 188]

3 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

You’re nuts

That’s rich coming for your retarded loser ass  go back to your moms basement and keep pretending to be a lawyer to randoms on the internet snowflake  

[IGotWorms 4,057]

2 minutes ago, Stryker Ryker said:

That’s rich coming for your retarded loser ass  go back to your moms basement and keep pretending to be a lawyer to randoms on the internet snowflake  

Thanks for proving my point.

You should be banned for calling for assassination of a US governor

[Stryker Ryker 188]

2 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Thanks for proving my point.

You should be banned for calling for assassination of a US governor

Thanks for proving my point  Crying like a babybackb1tch  you’re a complete retarded moron that no one wants around here that lies all the time. Now go back to mommy’s basement loser cause we all know you have no wife, no kids, no family, no friends, no house, no job, and no life  

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,242]

1 hour ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Funny how MAGAgturds whine about states' rights but then get their collective panties in a wad when they are executed in ways they don't like.

MAGAturds:

STATES ARE BANNING ABORTION! 

A STATE IS BANNING OPEN CARRY AND CONCEALED GUNS IN PUBLIC PLACES IN ONE COUNTY TO CURB VIOLENCE AND FENTANYL! 

Almost like you have actually zero knowledge of this country and the constitution. Not surprised you openly vote to destroy the country. Here I’ll help you

states rights only apply on topics not covered in the constitution. The United States constitution is absolute 

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,242]

7 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

She is wrong to do it how she is doing it, but I will largely agree with what you are saying.   They are able to hide behind how she did it, but we know they would be saying the same thing if it was passed in the correct way.   

You’re smarter than that Buck

[BuckSwope 654]

15 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

You’re smarter than that Buck

I've read enough posts in these threads to stand by my statement.   Many people on that side of the aisle will fight about any regulation, no matter how it was brought on.   To me the fact that she did it this way is wrong, but largely irrelevant to the reaction from the usual gun folk I interact with on these sites.  

[Strike 5,214]

6 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

I've read enough posts in these threads to stand by my statement.   Many people on that side of the aisle will fight about any regulation, no matter how it was brought on.   To me the fact that she did it this way is wrong, but largely irrelevant to the reaction from the usual gun folk I interact with on these sites.  

There was no way for her to do it "right."

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,242]

7 minutes ago, BuckSwope said:

I've read enough posts in these threads to stand by my statement.   Many people on that side of the aisle will fight about any regulation, no matter how it was brought on.   To me the fact that she did it this way is wrong, but largely irrelevant to the reaction from the usual gun folk I interact with on these sites.  

I was just commenting on the fact that you said you agree with where he came from making the comparison of the second amendment and abortion in regards to states rights, one is constitutionally protected and one never has been

 

[BuckSwope 654]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

There was no way for her to do it "right."

Correct, currently.    I am speaking of attitudes not just now, but when they could have been enacted at state level.   Probably be a long time now thanks to Trump's court.   

My point was I largely see the same thing then vs. now - being against any regulation.   

[Strike 5,214]

1 minute ago, BuckSwope said:

Correct, currently.    I am speaking of attitudes not just now, but when they could have been enacted at state level.   Probably be a long time now thanks to Trump's court.   

My point was I largely see the same thing then vs. now - being against any regulation.   

And you're wrong.  Show me regulations that would make a difference and we can talk.  Wanting to ban "assault" weapons you can't define every time someone uses a handgun to kill someone is disingenuous though.  Not enforcing laws already on the books but wanting to enact more just to say you "did something" is also disingenuous.

[BuckSwope 654]

5 minutes ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

I was just commenting on the fact that you said you agree with where he came from making the comparison of the second amendment and abortion in regards to states rights, one is constitutionally protected and one never has been

 

My point was more that the pro-gun people seem to care more about state's rights now when it supports them, but don't bring it up when it doesn't.    We will just have to disagree on that opinion.  I think for the pro-gun people as a whole, keeping guns as accessible and unregulated as possible >> state's rights or the constitution as a whole.   

[BuckSwope 654]

8 minutes ago, Strike said:

And you're wrong.  Show me regulations that would make a difference and we can talk.  Wanting to ban "assault" weapons you can't define every time someone uses a handgun to kill someone is disingenuous though.  Not enforcing laws already on the books but wanting to enact more just to say you "did something" is also disingenuous.

None of which are my stances, so what the fock is your point?  

And you understand I am talking in general about people that I have interacted with, not you - correct?   I barely converse with you, largely because you seem to do what you did here - apply dumb lib ideas you see online to me.  

[Patented Phil 1,469]

Time to water the Liberty tree.

[Dizkneelande 1,085]

2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Here is a whole list of Trump’s violations of the Constitution while in office, compiled by the libertarian Cato Institute: 

https://www.cato.org/commentary/exit-survey-trumps-constitutional-misdeeds

He never gave a crap about the Constitution and now he openly wants to get rid of it. And you guys support him anyhow and then you whine and complain about the Constitution. You’re all the worst sort of hypocrites. 

Pure comedic gold here - 

“The Obama administration has been the most lawless in U.S. history.”

“Liberal law professor Garrett Epps (a professional acquaintance) admits that “even for those like me who admire Barack Obama, the constitutional record is disturbingly mixed. Obama leaves the Constitution weaker than at the beginning of his terms.” Epps labels Obama’s posture to be one of “aggressive compliance,” torturing statutory language as far as it can go in order to avoid constitutional claims.”

https://www.cato.org/commentary/top-10-ways-obama-violated-constitution-during-presidency

Do you agree with Shapiro here or only when you share his sentiment? He thought Obama was a heck of a lot worse.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,952]

5 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

Pure comedic gold here - 

“The Obama administration has been the most lawless in U.S. history.”

“Liberal law professor Garrett Epps (a professional acquaintance) admits that “even for those like me who admire Barack Obama, the constitutional record is disturbingly mixed. Obama leaves the Constitution weaker than at the beginning of his terms.” Epps labels Obama’s posture to be one of “aggressive compliance,” torturing statutory language as far as it can go in order to avoid constitutional claims.”

https://www.cato.org/commentary/top-10-ways-obama-violated-constitution-during-presidency

Do you agree with Shapiro here or only when you share his sentiment? He thought Obama was a heck of a lot worse.

Let me be the first to say : crickets 

[HellToupee 1,594]

2 hours ago, Pimpadeaux said:

Funny how MAGAgturds whine about states' rights but then get their collective panties in a wad when they are executed in ways they don't like.

MAGAturds:

STATES ARE BANNING ABORTION! 

A STATE IS BANNING OPEN CARRY AND CONCEALED GUNS IN PUBLIC PLACES IN ONE COUNTY TO CURB VIOLENCE AND FENTANYL! 

What a chump

 

SAD

[MDC 7,141]

12 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

Pure comedic gold here - 

“The Obama administration has been the most lawless in U.S. history.”

“Liberal law professor Garrett Epps (a professional acquaintance) admits that “even for those like me who admire Barack Obama, the constitutional record is disturbingly mixed. Obama leaves the Constitution weaker than at the beginning of his terms.” Epps labels Obama’s posture to be one of “aggressive compliance,” torturing statutory language as far as it can go in order to avoid constitutional claims.”

https://www.cato.org/commentary/top-10-ways-obama-violated-constitution-during-presidency

Do you agree with Shapiro here or only when you share his sentiment? He thought Obama was a heck of a lot worse.

People who voted for Obummer twice have no leg to stand on here.  

[The Real timschochet 6,443]

29 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

Pure comedic gold here - 

“The Obama administration has been the most lawless in U.S. history.”

“Liberal law professor Garrett Epps (a professional acquaintance) admits that “even for those like me who admire Barack Obama, the constitutional record is disturbingly mixed. Obama leaves the Constitution weaker than at the beginning of his terms.” Epps labels Obama’s posture to be one of “aggressive compliance,” torturing statutory language as far as it can go in order to avoid constitutional claims.”

https://www.cato.org/commentary/top-10-ways-obama-violated-constitution-during-presidency

Do you agree with Shapiro here or only when you share his sentiment? He thought Obama was a heck of a lot worse.

Well I didn’t vote for Obama either time so you’re probably asking the wrong guy. 
 

Also, dude. There’s football on. Let’s have this discussion later. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,846]

anyone file a lawsuit in Federal courts yet to get an injunction?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,952]

41 minutes ago, MDC said:

People who voted for Obummer twice have no leg to stand on here.  

Says the guy that just voted for Fetterman. 

[Dizkneelande 1,085]

29 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Well I didn’t vote for Obama either time so you’re probably asking the wrong guy. 
 

Also, dude. There’s football on. Let’s have this discussion later. 

Your quote “no President in our history has ever so disrespected the Constitution as Donald Trump, not even close” 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,952]

2 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

Your quote “no President in our history has ever so disrespected the Constitution as Donald Trump, not even close” 

FDR doesn’t count to Tim. 

[BunnysBastatrds 2,319]

She needs to go to the bat shiot cave just down the road from her and get the excrement treatment she

 

 

 

 

[JustinCharge 2,397]

4 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

I’ve never heard of any politician call for the termination of the Constitution before Trump did. You can dismiss it, try to compare it to people who have complained about other elections, but he said it. And you still support him. That’s why your love of the Constitution seems selective to me. Sorry. 

the Constitution allows for termination of itself.  In fact, the GOP is pretty close to being able to call a constitutional convention.

[Strike 5,214]

2 hours ago, BuckSwope said:

None of which are my stances, so what the fock is your point?  

And you understand I am talking in general about people that I have interacted with, not you - correct?   I barely converse with you, largely because you seem to do what you did here - apply dumb lib ideas you see online to me.  

What an idiotic post.  I addressed the points that you were making.  And you just go on some stupid rant about nothing. 

[Strike 5,214]

59 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

anyone file a lawsuit in Federal courts yet to get an injunction?

It'll happen first thing Monday morning.