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[Strike 5,186]

Just now, MDC said:

1. I could post other links too but you’d dismiss them also.

2. Assuming that’s true I’m glad Biden did ignore his military advisors and leave Afghanistan, in accordance with the deal Trump brokered with the Taliban instead of the puppet government we’d propped up for 20 years. 

You can keep crying. I highly doubt anyone but Trumpers are going be fuming about our imperfect exit from Afghanistan in 2024. 

Yeah I know.  You and Worms are good with dead American servicepeople.  Some of us are not when it's preventable.  Just another disgusting stance by you libs. 

[The Real timschochet 6,421]

1 minute ago, MDC said:

1. I could post other links too but you’d dismiss them also.

2. Assuming that’s true I’m glad Biden did ignore his military advisors and leave Afghanistan, in accordance with the deal Trump brokered with the Taliban instead of the puppet government we’d propped up for 20 years. 

You can keep crying. I highly doubt anyone but Trumpers are going be fuming about our imperfect exit from Afghanistan in 2024. 

It won’t be an issue. 

[MDC 7,130]

6 minutes ago, Strike said:

Yeah I know.  You and Worms are good with dead American servicepeople.  Some of us are not when it's preventable.  Just another disgusting stance by you libs. 

And here I am on the side of getting out of that shiithole while you want to leave an indefinite force there. 

Go figure.

[League Champion 1,896]

7 minutes ago, MDC said:

Go figure

.  PRO HAMAS 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

16 minutes ago, MDC said:

1. I could post other links too but you’d dismiss them also.

2. Assuming that’s true I’m glad Biden did ignore his military advisors and leave Afghanistan, in accordance with the deal Trump brokered with the Taliban instead of the puppet government we’d propped up for 20 years. 

You can keep crying. I highly doubt anyone but Trumpers are going be fuming about our imperfect exit from Afghanistan in 2024. 

Actually they do somehow gain traction with this garbage. Benghaaaaaazi!!  managed to at least slightly undercut Hilary Clinton’s image of competency in international affairs and defense. Which was the entire point and the only reason they do this — but it does work a bit, unfortunately 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

17 minutes ago, Strike said:

Yeah I know.  You and Worms are good with dead American servicepeople.  Some of us are not when it's preventable.  Just another disgusting stance by you libs. 

Go suck a fat d1ck — you’re the one that championed Iraq and Afghanistan wars under W, which led to thousands dead and tens of thousands wounded

[seafoam1 2,802]

25 minutes ago, MDC said:

1. I could post other links too but you’d dismiss them also.

2. Assuming that’s true I’m glad Biden did ignore his military advisors and leave Afghanistan, in accordance with the deal Trump brokered with the Taliban instead of the puppet government we’d propped up for 20 years. 

You can keep crying. I highly doubt anyone but Trumpers are going be fuming about our imperfect exit from Afghanistan in 2024. 

ronery. 

[League Champion 1,896]

I can't understand why Libs are Pro Hamas. Can a liberal please explain? 

[Strike 5,186]

11 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Go suck a fat d1ck — you’re the one that championed Iraq and Afghanistan wars under W, which led to thousands dead and tens of thousands wounded

Apparently the word "preventable" isn't in the dictionary used at Retard Law School, but you can still look it up on the Interwebs.  And anyone who doesn't think we should have gone in to Afghanistan is a poosey,  But we already knew that about you but thanks for confirming.

[IGotWorms 4,057]

6 minutes ago, Strike said:

Apparently the word "preventable" isn't in the dictionary used at Retard Law School, but you can still look it up on the Interwebs.  And anyone who doesn't think we should have gone in to Afghanistan is a poosey,  But we already knew that about you but thanks for confirming.

Lol so you backed the initial decision to go in, which resulted in 2,000 killed and 20,000 wounded (missing limbs and such), and YOU have the balls to lecture ME about thirteen casualties??

You can’t make the sh1t up!

[seafoam1 2,802]

2 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Lol so you backed the initial decision to go in, which resulted in 2,000 killed and 20,000 wounded (missing limbs and such), and YOU have the balls to lecture ME about thirteen casualties??

You can’t make the sh1t up!

Wow. You really are dumb. 

[Strike 5,186]

3 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Lol so you backed the initial decision to go in, which resulted in 2,000 killed and 20,000 wounded (missing limbs and such), and YOU have the balls to lecture ME about thirteen casualties??

You can’t make the sh1t up!

Again, the word "preventable" seems to elude you, "counselor." 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

Again, the word "preventable" seems to elude you, "counselor." 

You’re right, it was totally preventable. All 2,000 of those deaths were preventable — by never going in

[Voltaire 5,198]

6 hours ago, MDC said:

 

There are a lot of things you could trash Biden for, this one is lame and more importantly to you it won’t move the needle for anyone who doesn’t have BDS. 

The US withdrew from Afghanistan on August 30, 2021. With that in mind, check out this timeline of Biden's approval rating. Biden approval polling tracker (reuters.com)

[Strike 5,186]

48 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

You’re right, it was totally preventable. All 2,000 of those deaths were preventable — by never going in

Says the guy who supported going in!!!!  Flip flop much??? 

[Voltaire 5,198]

7 hours ago, Engorgeous George said:

Are you suggesting, and I hope you are, that we give the jews New Jersey?  

I thought we did that already. Maybe we only gave them NYC. There's so much overlap, its hard to differentiate.

[HellToupee 1,587]

6 hours ago, Cdub100 said:

His living son scored a lot of points with his dead brothers wife.

 

What a disgusting family 

Such a screwed up story from a family of degenerates 

[seafoam1 2,802]

7 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Such a screwed up story from a family of degenerates 

It's surreal how sick that family is and was.

[League Champion 1,896]

5 hours ago, MDC said:

 There are a lot of things you could trash Biden for

Thank you Captain Obvious

[MDC 7,130]

Just now, League Champion said:

Thank you Captain Obvious

If it’s so obvious so morons wouldn’t be trashing him for leaving Afghanistan, fock-o.

[League Champion 1,896]

Just now, MDC said:

If it’s so obvious so morons wouldn’t be trashing him for leaving Afghanistan, fock-o.

You mean leaving Billions of dollars in equipment, munitions and Military Bases in Terrorist hands??? Nothing to see here??? 

[MDC 7,130]

24 minutes ago, League Champion said:

You mean leaving Billions of dollars in equipment, munitions and Military Bases in Terrorist hands??? Nothing to see here??? 

By “the terrorists” I’m assuming you mean the Taliban? 

[jerryskids 6,567]

4 hours ago, MDC said:

You can keep crying. I highly doubt anyone but Trumpers are going be fuming about our imperfect exit from Afghanistan in 2024. 

 

4 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

It won’t be an issue. 

Umm... it depends on how volatile the world is, and the extent to which we are embroiled in it.  W won reelection in 2004 largely because of a perception that Kerry was a poosay, and we were still fighting the terrorists.  I find it hard to believe that Biden will change the (accurate) perception that he is in deep cognitive decline.  Also a vote for Biden in 2024 is basically a vote for his VP candidate, since the odds of Biden making it another four years are approaching zero.  If that's Harris, oof.

Then again, I imagine the Left and their MSM cohorts will attempt to lather its lemmings up to worry that Trump will fire a bunch of nukes.  So it's hard to predict the end result I guess.  But it could certainly be a factor.

[Voltaire 5,198]

4 hours ago, MDC said:

If it’s so obvious so morons wouldn’t be trashing him for leaving Afghanistan, fock-o.

What exactly are you arguing here? That the Afghanistan withdrawal wasn't a fiasco?

[MDC 7,130]

1 minute ago, jerryskids said:

 

Umm... it depends on how volatile the world is, and the extent to which we are embroiled in it.  W won reelection in 2004 largely because of a perception that Kerry was a poosay, and we were still fighting the terrorists.  I find it hard to believe that Biden will change the (accurate) perception that he is in deep cognitive decline.  Also a vote for Biden in 2024 is basically a vote for his VP candidate, since the odds of Biden making it another four years are approaching zero.  If that's Harris, oof.

Then again, I imagine the Left and their MSM cohorts will attempt to lather its lemmings up to worry that Trump will fire a bunch of nukes.  So it's hard to predict the end result I guess.  But it could certainly be a factor.

Nothing you said here has anything to do with my claim.

Voters might reject Biden because he looks like the crypt keeper and has dementia or because they hate his Veep. All fair.

No one who is actually persuadable is going to cast their vote based on the pullout from Afghanistan after 20 years. 

[MDC 7,130]

3 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

What exactly are you arguing here? That the Afghanistan withdrawal wasn't a fiasco?

That it likely would have been a fiasco at any time under any admin, and Biden gets a huge mulligan since the three POTUS before him all could’ve ended it and didn’t.

This might be the best thing Biden did. 

[jerryskids 6,567]

1 minute ago, MDC said:

Nothing you said here has anything to do with my claim.

Voters might reject Biden because he looks like the crypt keeper and has dementia or because they hate his Veep. All fair.

No one who is actually persuadable is going to cast their vote based on the pullout from Afghanistan after 20 years. 

Well, I would expect the Repubs to use that fiasco as an example of Biden's inability to lead in military situations.  Then again, the Repubs can't help but kick themselves in the balls come election time, so maybe they won't.   

[MDC 7,130]

2 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Well, I would expect the Repubs to use that fiasco as an example of Biden's inability to lead in military situations.  Then again, the Repubs can't help but kick themselves in the balls come election time, so maybe they won't.   

I think leading with that instead of Biden’s age would be dumb but who knows. The real master stroke was nominating maybe the only candidate Sleepy Joe could potentially beat. 2024 is looking like a tard-off.

 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

16 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Well, I would expect the Repubs to use that fiasco as an example of Biden's inability to lead in military situations.  Then again, the Repubs can't help but kick themselves in the balls come election time, so maybe they won't.   

Example?

Give me another one.

[KSB2424 3,148]

4 hours ago, League Champion said:

I can't understand why Libs are Pro Hamas. Can a liberal please explain? 

It’s just the newest thing.  Their white guilt makes them instantly reflex against anything pro West and pro White.  Damn what actually happened.  

[KSB2424 3,148]

If all these innocent Palestinian civilians I keep hearing about rose up and kicked the Hamas leaders out or gave them up to Israel, and released the hundreds of hostages, Israel would cease fire and the recovery would begin.  

But that won’t happen.  

[League Champion 1,896]

52 minutes ago, MDC said:

By “the terrorists” I’m assuming you mean the Taliban? 

The whole damn place is mob infested terrorists. That's what they do. I served 2 tours there, I can tell you all you need to know. 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

12 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

If all these innocent Palestinian civilians I keep hearing about rose up and kicked the Hamas leaders out or gave them up to Israel, and released the hundreds of hostages, Israel would cease fire and the recovery would begin.  

But that won’t happen.  

Exactly.

So… women and children keep dying by the thousands?

I dunno, maybe it’s necessary… but a tough pill to swallow 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,934]

24 minutes ago, KSB2424 said:

It’s just the newest thing.  Their white guilt makes them instantly reflex against anything pro West and pro White.  Damn what actually happened.  

It’s the only possible explanation. These Fockers are broken. Trump wrecked them. And their professors. I blame Zinn. 

[Voltaire 5,198]

4 hours ago, KSB2424 said:

It’s just the newest thing.  Their white guilt makes them instantly reflex against anything pro West and pro White.  Damn what actually happened.  

This. Leftoids see rampaging lunatics of darker pigmentation tearing apart cities in the US or committing atrocities in Israel and immediately wring their hands and feel shame how they let these poor cutsie wootsie innocents down and blame themselves. At least the leftoids can take comfort knowing they're better than us who have no sympathy/tolerance for the bullsh*t and identify the savages at the gates for what they are.

[The Real timschochet 6,421]

22 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

This. Leftoids see rampaging lunatics of darker pigmentation tearing apart cities in the US or committing atrocities in Israel and immediately wring their hands and feel shame how they let these poor cutsie wootsie innocents down and blame themselves. At least the leftoids can take comfort knowing they're better than us who have no sympathy/tolerance for the bullsh*t and identify the savages at the gates for what they are.

We don’t notice the darker pigmentation part. We don’t group people that way. That’s your deal not ours. People who do bad stuff need to be stopped and punished. People who don’t shouldn’t be grouped with those that do. Which is what you’re doing here. 

[The Real timschochet 6,421]

1 hour ago, jerryskids said:

 

Umm... it depends on how volatile the world is, and the extent to which we are embroiled in it.  W won reelection in 2004 largely because of a perception that Kerry was a poosay, and we were still fighting the terrorists.  I find it hard to believe that Biden will change the (accurate) perception that he is in deep cognitive decline.  Also a vote for Biden in 2024 is basically a vote for his VP candidate, since the odds of Biden making it another four years are approaching zero.  If that's Harris, oof.

Then again, I imagine the Left and their MSM cohorts will attempt to lather its lemmings up to worry that Trump will fire a bunch of nukes.  So it's hard to predict the end result I guess.  But it could certainly be a factor.

It won’t be a factor. IF foreign policy is an issue (and that’s usually a big if) it will be Ukraine, Israel, Taiwan, and our overall commitments. Afghanistan, whether you blame Biden or not, is history. 

[The Real timschochet 6,421]

6 hours ago, League Champion said:

I can't understand why Libs are Pro Hamas. Can a liberal please explain? 

Sure. Produce a liberal who is pro-Hamas and I will explain. 

[jerryskids 6,567]

1 hour ago, IGotWorms said:

Example?

Give me another one.

First, you tell me how many is sufficient.

[jerryskids 6,567]

1 hour ago, KSB2424 said:

It’s just the newest thing.  Their white guilt makes them instantly reflex against anything pro West and pro White.  Damn what actually happened.  

I think many of the young kids are just blithering idiots, going for shock value and or just following what their TikTok masters say to believe.  Which, BTW, is China.  You and I have socks with more life experience than these kids.

For a more sophisticated answer, we can look at the powerful vs. powerless that we discussed before, but IMO that doesn't quite explain the conundrum of support from the Left for a culture which treats women, LGBTQ, or anyone different from them as utter and complete shiot.  One explanation that I like is the Left's commitment to multiculturalism, the belief that all cultures are a net good, and that incorporating them into Western culture is therefore a net good on first principles.  They ignore the disasters happening in European cultures which embraced such refugees.  As with communism, the idea wasn't bad, just the implementation.  THIS time, or in OUR country, it will work differently than in every previous example.