Fumbleweed 477 Posted January 3 This is something I like to post on site in early January and then update it every few weeks for a couple of months. The first edition assumes minimal team changes for the following players (which isn't realistic) and does not include potential rookies. This is just a glimpse of what a redraft (non-PPR) might look like for 2024 based upon what is known today. It is meant to generate some discussion, so feel free to disagree and/or offer up alternative choices. QBs are also valued a little higher by me based on some of the scoring systems I play being QB-friendly. Round One: 1. Christian McCaffrey 2. Tyreek Hill 3. Justin Jefferson 4. CeeDee Lamb 5. Bijan Robinson 6. Kyren Williams 7. Travis Etienne 8. Ja'Marr Chase 9. Jonathan Taylor 10. Breece Hall 11. A.J. Brown 12. Jahmyr Gibbs Round Two: 13. Amon-Ra St. Brown 14. James Cook 15. Nick Chubb 16. Josh Allen 17. Cooper Kupp 18. D.J. Moore 19. De'Von Achane 20. Keenan Allen 21. Alvin Kamara 22. Davante Adams 23. Rachaad White 24. Saquon Barkley Round Three: 25. Mike Evans 26. Jalen Hurts 27. Isiah Pacheco 28. Sam LaPorta 29. Puka Nacua 30. Travis Kelce 31. Raheem Mostert 32. Derrick Henry 33. Deebo Samuel 34. Lamar Jackson 35. James Conner 36. Brandon Aiyuk Round Four: 37. Joe Mixon 38. Garrett Wilson 39. Nico Collins 40. Kenneth Walker 41. Dak Prescott 42. Patrick Mahomes 43. Jordan Addison 44. C.J. Stroud 45. Josh Jacobs 46. Justin Herbert 47. David Montgomery 48. D.K. Metcalf Honorable mention: Najee Harris, Tony Pollard, D'Andre Swift, Austin Ekeler, DeVonta Smith, Amari Cooper Thoughts?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
weepaws 2,671 Posted January 3 No comment, you don’t like it when people side against you. Thanks. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolves111 79 Posted January 3 Tank Dell might be the go to WR in Houston over Collins. Players like Ekeler, Barkley, Allen, seem headed towards number twos. Great write up. I hope you continue to update over the next eight months when appropriate Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
makindollaz 45 Posted January 3 Very close to my 1st round, only difference was I’m a little higher on Chase (#3) and basically have Taylor & St. Brown swapped. Feel like Chubb is high given his age and injury. I also am a big R. Rice fan and looking at him starting mid/low 3rd round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fumbleweed 477 Posted January 3 42 minutes ago, weepaws said: No comment, you don’t like it when people side against you. Thanks. ????? That's simply not true. I do ask for specific feedback like if you don't like this player, then who do you like in his stead, but I don't have a problem with others' opinions. Not sure where you got that idea. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolves111 79 Posted January 3 13 minutes ago, Fumbleweed said: ????? That's simply not true. I do ask for specific feedback like if you don't like this player, then who do you like in his stead, but I don't have a problem with others' opinions. Not sure where you got that idea. Just forgive him. I offered an olive branch to him even after he repeatedly demeaned me. Thought it was the Christian thing to do. Some people have problems that can’t be overcome. Just pray for him that his life improves and he loses the blackness in his heart. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 416 Posted January 3 Looks pretty good for the most part. I think a lot of drafts would look pretty similar. Hard to argue with CMC and Tyreek 1st and 2nd. I personally wouldn't draft Bijan until the 2nd round but I bet he'll be top 5 in a lot of drafts. If you can get Puka Nacua in the 3rd round, that's the steal of the draft. He probably will be 2nd or 3rd, but I think he's a 1st round talent. It's gonna be interesting to see who ends up being the favorite between him and Cooper Kupp next season Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RareN64Dream 10 Posted January 4 Stefon Diggs might get picked in first 4 rounds. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
makindollaz 45 Posted January 4 1 hour ago, RareN64Dream said: Stefon Diggs might get picked in first 4 rounds. No idea where to slot Diggs or Kelce. If they’re getting drafted in the first 2-3 rounds, it’s off of reputation…not productivity the second half of the season. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fumbleweed 477 Posted January 4 1 hour ago, RareN64Dream said: Stefon Diggs might get picked in first 4 rounds. Oversight on my part. I will find a home for him most likely in next update. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Showboat 151 Posted January 4 Don't think Henry on the wrong side of 30 with a fair amount of mileage on the tires should be in the top four rounds. Best case is that he carves out a Jerome Bettis-like goal-line back role someplace. More likely is that he is done - the cliff comes up abruptly for heavily used RBs. Kelce shouldn't be drafted in the first four rounds either (but he may very well be in many leagues). There wasn't a large sample size, but Anthony Richardson was looking like the real deal and could be a league winner if he drops (and learns to protect himself better) - I'd much rather take my chances with him several rounds later than Stroud in the fourth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fumbleweed 477 Posted January 4 11 minutes ago, Showboat said: Don't think Henry on the wrong side of 30 with a fair amount of mileage on the tires should be in the top four rounds. Best case is that he carves out a Jerome Bettis-like goal-line back role someplace. More likely is that he is done - the cliff comes up abruptly for heavily used RBs. Kelce shouldn't be drafted in the first four rounds either (but he may very well be in many leagues). There wasn't a large sample size, but Anthony Richardson was looking like the real deal and could be a league winner if he drops (and learns to protect himself better) - I'd much rather take my chances with him several rounds later than Stroud in the fourth. Richardson is such an interesting fantasy prospect. I agree that he'll be one to snatch up in a redraft this summer. As for Henry, it's hard to say if he's truly done or not. Would a change of scenery do him some good? Possibly. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
makindollaz 45 Posted January 4 My gut is telling me Henry has one more productive season (1100-1200 yards? 7-8 TD’s?) left in the tank, before a Dalvin Cook-type drop off in 2025. That said, there are quite a few young RB’s I’d take ahead of him in redraft in 2024. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cavern 70 Posted January 4 18 hours ago, polecatt said: It's gonna be interesting to see who ends up being the favorite between him and Cooper Kupp next season I think that right there is why he drops a bit for the time being Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BufordT 383 Posted January 4 If Henry retires or goes to another team Tyjae Spears will be a 2nd rounder for me. They are waiting patiently to turn this kid loose. Garrett Wilson is a 2nd rounder for me as well assuming Rodgers is back at QB Mahomes will be my #1 QB if Matt Nagy no longer has anything to do with the Chiefs offense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
makindollaz 45 Posted January 4 1 hour ago, BufordT said: If Henry retires or goes to another team Tyjae Spears will be a 2nd rounder for me. They are waiting patiently to turn this kid loose. Garrett Wilson is a 2nd rounder for me as well assuming Rodgers is back at QB Mahomes will be my #1 QB if Matt Nagy no longer has anything to do with the Chiefs offense. In one of my leagues we keep 5, and I’m thinking about Spears being one of my 5 if Henry moves on. Four definites are Jefferson, R. White, J. Allen & Aiyuk. Would probably come down to Kelce, Javonte Williams, Cooper or Spears for the last spot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Showboat 151 Posted January 5 3 hours ago, makindollaz said: In one of my leagues we keep 5, and I’m thinking about Spears being one of my 5 if Henry moves on. Four definites are Jefferson, R. White, J. Allen & Aiyuk. Would probably come down to Kelce, Javonte Williams, Cooper or Spears for the last spot. R.White may not be a no-brainer. He had a productive season, but 3.6 ypc may cause the Bucs to look for an upgrade next year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wolves111 79 Posted January 7 On 1/3/2024 at 3:14 PM, Fumbleweed said: This is something I like to post on site in early January and then update it every few weeks for a couple of months. The first edition assumes minimal team changes for the following players (which isn't realistic) and does not include potential rookies. This is just a glimpse of what a redraft (non-PPR) might look like for 2024 based upon what is known today. It is meant to generate some discussion, so feel free to disagree and/or offer up alternative choices. QBs are also valued a little higher by me based on some of the scoring systems I play being QB-friendly. Round One: 1. Christian McCaffrey 2. Tyreek Hill 3. Justin Jefferson 4. CeeDee Lamb 5. Bijan Robinson 6. Kyren Williams 7. Travis Etienne 8. Ja'Marr Chase 9. Jonathan Taylor 10. Breece Hall 11. A.J. Brown 12. Jahmyr Gibbs Round Two: 13. Amon-Ra St. Brown 14. James Cook 15. Nick Chubb 16. Josh Allen 17. Cooper Kupp 18. D.J. Moore 19. De'Von Achane 20. Keenan Allen 21. Alvin Kamara 22. Davante Adams 23. Rachaad White 24. Saquon Barkley Round Three: 25. Mike Evans 26. Jalen Hurts 27. Isiah Pacheco 28. Sam LaPorta 29. Puka Nacua 30. Travis Kelce 31. Raheem Mostert 32. Derrick Henry 33. Deebo Samuel 34. Lamar Jackson 35. James Conner 36. Brandon Aiyuk Round Four: 37. Joe Mixon 38. Garrett Wilson 39. Nico Collins 40. Kenneth Walker 41. Dak Prescott 42. Patrick Mahomes 43. Jordan Addison 44. C.J. Stroud 45. Josh Jacobs 46. Justin Herbert 47. David Montgomery 48. D.K. Metcalf Honorable mention: Najee Harris, Tony Pollard, D'Andre Swift, Austin Ekeler, DeVonta Smith, Amari Cooper Thoughts?? LaPorta the first to drop. Carted off with a knee. Shame. Lions didn’t even need the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 826 Posted January 7 I may end up liking Taylor and hall more than Bijan and kyler. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cmh6476 826 Posted January 7 Travis takes a dip and isn't the top team anymore. I still think Mahomes is your no. 1 qb. You know the Chiefs aren't standing pat and pat will get some weapons. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gepetto 1,100 Posted January 8 On 1/3/2024 at 2:14 PM, Fumbleweed said: This is something I like to post on site in early January and then update it every few weeks for a couple of months. The first edition assumes minimal team changes for the following players (which isn't realistic) and does not include potential rookies. This is just a glimpse of what a redraft (non-PPR) might look like for 2024 based upon what is known today. It is meant to generate some discussion, so feel free to disagree and/or offer up alternative choices. QBs are also valued a little higher by me based on some of the scoring systems I play being QB-friendly. Round One: 5. Bijan Robinson Thoughts?? I had Bijan this year. I don't think he should be drafted next year in the first round. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LaChup 194 Posted January 8 Unless you are Chubb's mom, I see no need for this particular ranking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cavern 70 Posted January 8 11 hours ago, Gepetto said: I had Bijan this year. I don't think he should be drafted next year in the first round. probably worth seeing how the coaching shakes out, here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Phil Simms 11 131 Posted January 8 Bijan, I had him and will draft again in round 1. New coach is enough, but maybe a new QB as well and I see a big season for him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,289 Posted January 8 In non-PPR, Mike Evans is a 1st round pick if he re-signs and God forbid, Mayfield is back. Evans will be a lock for 1200 and 12 again, maybe even more if Tampa fixes their interior OLine issues. Going out on a limb, but I'm guessing Evans was top 5 this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
makindollaz 45 Posted January 9 In my one non-PPR league, Evans was #3. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 661 Posted January 10 On 1/4/2024 at 9:47 AM, Fumbleweed said: Richardson is such an interesting fantasy prospect. I agree that he'll be one to snatch up in a redraft this summer. As for Henry, it's hard to say if he's truly done or not. Would a change of scenery do him some good? Possibly. in games where the game script was good Henry still performed. so I am inclined to think this is a symptom of being on a bad team. there may still be tread on the tires but I suspect its getting thin. Henrys value will depend largely on the situation he finds himself in next year. At this point it is too early to predict where he will be or how he will do. One thing I'm reasonably certain of..... I dont think hes an RB1 anymore. while not impossible, I'd say its unlikely. if he does perform next year, it is likely his last year doing it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 416 Posted January 11 It will be interesting to see this draft right after the season, compared to the mock drafts in July or August or something. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 661 Posted January 11 10 hours ago, polecatt said: It will be interesting to see this draft right after the season, compared to the mock drafts in July or August or something. well, some players (or their teammates) will be changing teams and thus the rankings will shift based on how the offense as a whole will perform Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 416 Posted January 12 14 hours ago, Ray_T said: well, some players (or their teammates) will be changing teams and thus the rankings will shift based on how the offense as a whole will perform Exactly! That and the draft. There will certainly be at least a couple of rookies thrown into the mix too Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
makindollaz 45 Posted January 12 6 minutes ago, polecatt said: Exactly! That and the draft. There will certainly be at least a couple of rookies thrown into the mix too Curious to see if any rookie RB’s are worth a pick in the first 7-8 rounds of redraft. I’m sure at least 5-6 WR’s will…looks like a pretty good group this year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
polecatt 416 Posted January 12 8 minutes ago, makindollaz said: Curious to see if any rookie RB’s are worth a pick in the first 7-8 rounds of redraft. I’m sure at least 5-6 WR’s will…looks like a pretty good group this year. With how thin and volatile the current RB situation is, I'm almost certain there will be at least one that get hyped up into the first two rounds. The first 7-8 rounds, probably 2-3 or so. Last season you had people hyping up Bijan as potentially the #1 overall pick. Which of course was laughable, considering he was on one of the worst offenses in the NFL which already had decent RB depth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ray_T 661 Posted January 12 1 hour ago, polecatt said: With how thin and volatile the current RB situation is, I'm almost certain there will be at least one that get hyped up into the first two rounds. The first 7-8 rounds, probably 2-3 or so. Last season you had people hyping up Bijan as potentially the #1 overall pick. Which of course was laughable, considering he was on one of the worst offenses in the NFL which already had decent RB depth. agreed. I had him high on my list for dynasty but not nearly as high for redraft. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
makindollaz 45 Posted January 12 But last year seemed like Bijan & Gibbs were getting 1st round hype in the NFL draft mocks (not just fantasy). I’m not seeing any RB’s with that draft grade this year yet. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kcBlitzkrieg 25 Posted January 12 On 1/7/2024 at 4:44 PM, cmh6476 said: Travis takes a dip and isn't the top team anymore. I still think Mahomes is your no. 1 qb. You know the Chiefs aren't standing pat and pat will get some weapons. Mahomes won't be #1 if they don't find someone to stretch the field....no not Mecole, a real WR not a track star. MVS thankfully will be gone. Kelce wasn't even the top TE this year, next year will be his last year. Age catches up with us all and it caught him this year for sure. KC led the entire league in expected EPA vs. actual EPA difference caused by WRs. So the WRs were responsible for the largest gap between real EPA versus what EPA should have been, minus the errors. Another way to look at that is the fact that Mahomes had the "least" amount of help from his WR group in the entire league. We all know about them leading the league in dropped passes but this also factors in the mental mistakes, wrong / poor routes. Entire group minus Rashee needs overhauled. I'm sure KC will be in cap trouble again this year so getting a FA like Higgins is highly unlikely. Maybe a guy like Pittman could work or I'd like to maybe see them take a look at Mooney (hands, route running). Hollywood Brown would fit the field stretcher role nicely too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lowman66 0 Posted January 17 My strategy will be best player available round one Then as many shares of Puka, James Cook, Tank Dell, Isaiah Likely Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fumbleweed 477 Posted January 23 Updated- number in parentheses indicates movement since initial submission... Round One: 1. Christian McCaffrey 2. Tyreek Hill 3. Justin Jefferson 4. CeeDee Lamb 5. Bijan Robinson 6. Kyren Williams 7. Breece Hall (+3) 8. Ja'Marr Chase 9. Jonathan Taylor 10. Travis Etienne (-3) 11. Amon-Ra St. Brown (+2) 12. Jahmyr Gibbs Round Two: 13. A.J. Brown (-2) 14. James Cook 15. Nick Chubb 16. Josh Allen 17. Puka Nacua (+12) 18. D.J. Moore 19. De'Von Achane 20. Davante Adams (+2) 21. Isiah Pacheco (+6) 22. Mike Evans (+3) 23. Rachaad White 24. Saquon Barkley Round Three: 25. Keenan Allen (-5) 26. Nico Collins (+13) 27. Alvin Kamara (-6) 28. Sam LaPorta 29. Brandon Aiyuk (+7) 30. Travis Kelce 31. Raheem Mostert 32. Derrick Henry 33. Jalen Hurts (-7) 34. Lamar Jackson 35. James Conner 36. Deebo Samuel (-3) Round Four: 37. Joe Mixon 38. Garrett Wilson 39. Cooper Kupp (-22) 40. Kenneth Walker 41. Dak Prescott 42. Patrick Mahomes 43. Stefon Diggs (New) 44. C.J. Stroud 45. Josh Jacobs 46. Justin Herbert 47. David Montgomery 48. D.K. Metcalf Just missing: George Kittle, Najee Harris, Aaron Jones, Tony Pollard, Chris Olave, Jordan Addison, Austin Ekeler, DeVonta Smith, Amari Cooper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,123 Posted January 26 On 1/23/2024 at 3:23 PM, Fumbleweed said: 11. Amon-Ra St. Brown I agree, Amon Ra is no doubt a first round pick. He's so darn consistent and money every single week. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites