Are you willing to see the government shut down unless Democrats accept conservative proposals regarding the border and spending?

[seafoam1 2,798]

4 minutes ago, HB Localboy said:

DEMON RATS are the party of slavery, the confederacy, jim crow, segregation, massive voter fraud, corruption and shutting down the gubermint.

 

DEMON RATS HATE AMERICA!

 

If you vote DEMON VOTE you must hate America too! 

"I don't want my kids growing up in an urban jungle." -creepy joe  

[supermike80 1,796]

I'm tired of the government shutdown being used constantly as a ploy by BOF SIDEZ to get their way.   It's silly, over used, and this point, I am thinking I don't give a damn if it shuts down.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,912]

Yes 

[TheNewGirl 1,340]

Yes. I am so tired of this being used as some kind of leverage by either side. Shut it down. 

[Ron_Artest 1,040]

I've always been against a govt shutdown but after the last 2 months of utter chaos and assault on America, fock it.  Shut it down.  Trump is the president, he owns the house and senate.  If they can't solve this then fock em all.  Bring the pain.

[avoiding injuries 1,505]

My only concern about the government shutting down is that it’s going to slow the work that DOGE is doing. Other than that, SHUT, IT, DOWN. 

[HellToupee 1,583]

2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Undocumented immigrants who came here looking for a better life and who have not committed violent crimes deserve amnesty and a path to citizenship. Not deportation. Sanctuary cities, by refusing to cooperate with the federal government in rounding up innocent people and turning them in, assist with that ultimate goal. And it allows some of us to sleep better at night knowing that we are not Vichy French collaborators. 

You are one sick mofo

[HellToupee 1,583]

3 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

My only concern about the government shutting down is that it’s going to slow the work that DOGE is doing. Other than that, SHUT, IT, DOWN. 

DOGE can continue on like the air traffic controllers and USPS etc

[squistion 1,944]

24 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

I've always been against a govt shutdown but after the last 2 months of utter chaos and assault on America, fock it.  Shut it down.  Trump is the president, he owns the house and senate.  If they can't solve this then fock em all.  Bring the pain.

Exactly. 

Elections have consequences.

Trump and MAGA have said he has been given a mandate in the election taking all three branches of government.

Since Republicans hold all the cards (to quote Trump berating Zelensky) let's see them govern without the Democrats.

[5-Points 3,386]

One thing is for sure, if the gov does shut down, you won't see Trump preventing people from pulling over in vista turnouts to take pictures of national monuments like Obama did. 

Because Trump isn't a petulant, vindictive, asshoIe, that hates Americans, like Obama was. 

[5-Points 3,386]

6 hours ago, squistion said:

Exactly. 

Elections have consequences.

Trump and MAGA have said he has been given a mandate in the election taking all three branches of government.

Since Republicans hold all the cards (to quote Trump berating Zelensky) let's see them govern without the Democrats.

That would be awesome! 

[supermike80 1,796]

Dems don't have the votes.   

[Voltaire 5,181]

The reason this shutdown will occur is because the Democrats exist.

The bill doesn't get filibustered without Democrats actively filibustering it. 

Correct me if I'm wrong but I think though the silver lining is that under the extraordinary circumstances of a government shutdown, the president and OMB would have some decent authority to prioritize which bills get paid (and which don't).

[jonmx 2,424]

7 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

I've always been against a govt shutdown but after the last 2 months of utter chaos and assault on America, fock it.  Shut it down.  Trump is the president, he owns the house and senate.  If they can't solve this then fock em all.  Bring the pain.

Lol...only a focking moron considers an assault on the tith-sucking authoritarian bureaucracies as an assault on America.   Focking moron. 

[Voltaire 5,181]

https://archive.ph/6OHiS

Breaking news: Schumer came to his senses and will vote in favor of the GOP plan, likely meaning other Dems will join him

The link above avoids the WAPO paywall. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2025/03/13/feuding-democrats-must-decide-side-with-trump-or-shut-down-government/

[Nomad99 699]

On 1/13/2024 at 8:13 AM, Dizkneelande said:

I live in Massachusetts dingleberry 

Massholes unite!!

[Ron_Artest 1,040]

Fock chuck Schumer.

I guess he really is a Palestinian.

[HellToupee 1,583]

15 minutes ago, Nomad99 said:

Massholes unite!!

It depends where you live, all massholes aren’t created equal 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,912]

38 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

It depends where you live, all massholes aren’t created equal 

I miss ed jr

[RLLD 4,143]

I profess that I am a little surprised that Schumer decided to back down on this shutdown.   Democrats are all about the immediacy of things, and sure he and many of his cult have in pat years shouted to the sky of the evils of a shutdown.....only to threaten it here.....since it would now feed their political power.....you see, Democrats only ever take action to feed their power.

I think we should really look at this move as significant.  Schumer could not have actually stopped this CR, but he could have really focked the country up to placate the radical elements.  His refusal to do this shutdown should be seen as a rather positive thing, for everyone.....because it means that the non-radical components of the party might be making a comeback.

 

[Cdub100 3,825]

IMO both sides want a shut down. Democrats because they can blame Trump.

Trump wants it because it'll trigger this:

 

A shutdown furlough (caused by lack of appropriations) lasting for 30 consecutive days or 22 discontinuous workdays would convert from a temporary furlough to an "adverse action" requiring a RIF.

2. Expedited RIF Authority: Under 5 CFR Part 351, once a furlough reaches these thresholds, agencies can begin RIF procedures. This allows them to permanently separate, downgrade, or reassign employees based on retention standing, veterans' preference, tenure, and performance.

3. Presidential or OMB Action: While the President does not directly order a RIF, he can instruct agencies via OMB guidance to prepare and execute RIFs in response to prolonged funding gaps.

4. Agency Discretion: The affected agencies must initiate RIF procedures unless funding is restored.

 

I hope they shut down and we have a nice long furlough. I won't have to go into the office which will be nice. 

[Reality 3,092]

Schumer already folded, non-story. Re-up your democratic talking points.

[RLLD 4,143]

6 minutes ago, Reality said:

Schumer already folded, non-story. Re-up your democratic talking points.

Maybe its not that simple.  Maybe this is the tipping point at which Democrats can now fight their radicals, and take back leadership of the party on the part of sane and reasonable liberals.....

What Chuckie boy just did, is bigger than it means, IMHO

[The Real timschochet 6,391]

I think Schumer made the right decision. Even if Dems had shut down the government they would have folded in a month anyhow; that’s what happens every time. 
 

I get that Democrats hate what Trump is doing and want to fight. Me too. But the only way to do so right now is to talk about what we want and try to win in two years. 

[jbycho 580]

24 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I think Schumer made the right decision. Even if Dems had shut down the government they would have folded in a month anyhow; that’s what happens every time. 
 

I get that Democrats hate what Trump is doing and want to fight. Me too. But the only way to do so right now is to talk about what we want and try to win in two years. 

It must suck being you. How miserable can you get? 

[The Real timschochet 6,391]

17 minutes ago, jbycho said:

It must suck being you. How miserable can you get? 

Me? Dude I’m in Napa Valley right now in the most beautiful place on Earth. I’m in paradise. 

[jbycho 580]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Me? Dude I’m in Napa Valley right now in the most beautiful place on Earth. I’m in paradise. 

Then why are you whining endlessly? When you are miserable inside, like you are, no amount of  scenery is going to help you. 

Go Trump!

 

[Nomad99 699]

11 hours ago, HellToupee said:

It depends where you live, all massholes aren’t created equal 

Northshore....10 minutes from NH.

Growed up west of Wistah....

[HB Localboy 121]

AOC is going to Primary Crying Chuck!  

[HellToupee 1,583]

2 hours ago, Nomad99 said:

Northshore....10 minutes from NH.

Growed up west of Wistah....

Wilmington but grew up in Medford 

[Nomad99 699]

20 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Wilmington but grew up in Medford 

I hit the Shriners every year for the gun show.

[supermike80 1,796]

Guys....Don't be fooled.  Schumer didn't have the votes.  He caved because he knew he wasn't getting the support.  This was not Schumer being the "bigger man" and stepping up to not shut it down.   He's gonna play it like that, but he would have absolutely let it shut down if he knew he had the dem votes to do so.   He didn't

[Ron_Artest 1,040]

1 minute ago, supermike80 said:

Guys....Don't be fooled.  Schumer didn't have the votes.  He caved because he knew he wasn't getting the support.  This was not Schumer being the "bigger man" and stepping up to not shut it down.   He's gonna play it like that, but he would have absolutely let it shut down if he knew he had the dem votes to do so.   He didn't

Actually his logic is that shutting down would give Trump more power and be worse in the long run.  I don't agree with him but it's not about being the "bigger man" like you said.

[supermike80 1,796]

3 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Actually his logic is that shutting down would give Trump more power and be worse in the long run.  I don't agree with him but it's not about being the "bigger man" like you said.

No.  His logic is that he didn't have the votes.   And if you don't think he is trying to be the "bigger man" you don't understand politics

[Ron_Artest 1,040]

2 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

No.  His logic is that he didn't have the votes.   And if you don't think he is trying to be the "bigger man" you don't understand politics

That's not what he said.  Also anyone that is trying to be the bigger man tells you that they are being the bigger man.  No one in politics does "the right thing" and keeps it quiet.

[supermike80 1,796]

7 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

That's not what he said.  Also anyone that is trying to be the bigger man tells you that they are being the bigger man.  No one in politics does "the right thing" and keeps it quiet.

Ohhh...so politicians always say the truth.  Ok Ron.   Have a good day

[Strike 5,182]

5 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Ohhh...so politicians always say the truth.  Ok Ron.   Have a good day

Ron, Squissy, and Tim are funny.  If a politician doesn't specifically say they're bending them over to fock them up the a$$, those guys won't believe it regardless of how much it hurts.

[TBayXXXVII 2,481]

On 3/13/2025 at 10:42 AM, supermike80 said:

I'm tired of the government shutdown being used constantly as a ploy by BOF SIDEZ to get their way.   It's silly, over used, and this point, I am thinking I don't give a damn if it shuts down.

This.

[Ron_Artest 1,040]

9 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

Ohhh...so politicians always say the truth.  Ok Ron.   Have a good day

OMG.

Bro you said Schumer was gonna play it like he's being the bigger man.  I told you he's not playing it like that at all, so your reply is that he's lying? 

That's some 6D chess you think Schumer is trying to play.

[supermike80 1,796]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

OMG.

Bro you said Schumer was gonna play it like he's being the bigger man.  I told you he's not playing it like that at all, so your reply is that he's lying? 

That's some 6D chess you think Schumer is trying to play.

Again, and for the last time because I can't keep going back and forth with you on this.  You don't understand how politics work.  That's on you.  Now I am done