NBC Poll

[IGotWorms 4,058]

43 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

There's a good chance Jan 6 goes to trial late summer/early fall.  Need Scotus to rule on anther case first that impacts Jan 6 but once they do they just need to be able to schedule the trial.  

I'd bet it happens in September. 

Won’t happen, sorry to say

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Just now, IGotWorms said:

Won’t happen, sorry to say

What makes you say this?  The judge won't be an  impediment. 

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51 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

What makes you say this?  The judge won't be an  impediment. 

Up on appeal right now, that takes a while, then when it comes back down you have to restart the trial proceedings to some extent. The gears grind slowly. They aren’t doing this in the fall when the election is right around the corner so it’s summer or not until 2025 if ever 

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3 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

 Biden started with a 6 point lead in 2020 and maintained it throughout.  

You might not want to say this too loudly around here, half the site thinks Trump won.

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20 hours ago, Strike said:

The problem you've got is that Kameltoe is next in line.  Try to bypass her and you p*ss off the AA community.  But she couldn't even move the needle in polling in her own state 4 years ago so good luck running her instead of Weekend at Bidens.

I love how white people think they know how black people feel without ever talking to anyone black. I don’t know 1 single black person that likes Kamala Harris, not 1. 
She is a nice looking woman who has risen to Vice President. I can’t think of anything else to say about her besides she has given speeches. Michelle Obama did more notable work while in the White House and she wasn’t even a politician. 
KH is a bit of a dud.

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There is reason to be concerned of course. But there is plenty of time to address the major issues.  I think the problem for Biden is that any movement to fix issues is a movement back to Trump-era policy and the radicals that pervade the Democrat Party are not tolerant of anything other than absolute devotion to the platform, no tolerance for other ideas is allowed.

Biden is in a tough spot, but he is not without options.

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On 2/4/2024 at 11:31 AM, MDC said:

Biden’s best bet is to say as little as possible and let Trump remind everyone of what an unhinged weirdo he is. 

This. Even if none of the trials have verdicts before then, plenty of new information will come to light that will turn off a lot of independent voters. If he is found guilty of anything prior to the election, he's likely done. 

SCOTUS could rule that the states in which Trump was removed from the ballot did it lawfully. I'd be shocked if they did, but that would be an epic game changer.

None of this will matter to the born again MAGAMOOKS, who will likely perpetrate violence regardless of what else happens. That will serve as a nice reminder to normal citizens that this guy and his supporters are not friends to democracy and the rule of law, further tipping the scales to Biden.

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17 minutes ago, Fnord said:

This. Even if none of the trials have verdicts before then, plenty of new information will come to light that will turn off a lot of independent voters. If he is found guilty of anything prior to the election, he's likely done. 

SCOTUS could rule that the states in which Trump was removed from the ballot did it lawfully. I'd be shocked if they did, but that would be an epic game changer.

None of this will matter to the born again MAGAMOOKS, who will likely perpetrate violence regardless of what else happens. That will serve as a nice reminder to normal citizens that this guy and his supporters are not friends to democracy and the rule of law, further tipping the scales to Biden.

I think the lawfare is not having the desired outcomes.  I think strategically it was mainly pursued with the hope that if they went after him with enough nonsense, people would just turn away rather than face all the drama.....but there was a factor that they overlooked, the daily struggles of everyday people who remember how good things were under Trump. And there are plenty of people who look at these farcical legal attacks, and correlate it to their own experiences....

The effort does seem to have transitioned into political chicanery to prevent a candidate from being allowed to participate.  I think this is also a particularly bad look.

I think too many otherwise sensible liberals are hardcore buying into the many lies and just allowing themselves to be manipulated ala 1930's Germany-style.

[IGotWorms 4,058]

1 hour ago, Fnord said:

This. Even if none of the trials have verdicts before then, plenty of new information will come to light that will turn off a lot of independent voters. If he is found guilty of anything prior to the election, he's likely done. 

SCOTUS could rule that the states in which Trump was removed from the ballot did it lawfully. I'd be shocked if they did, but that would be an epic game changer.

None of this will matter to the born again MAGAMOOKS, who will likely perpetrate violence regardless of what else happens. That will serve as a nice reminder to normal citizens that this guy and his supporters are not friends to democracy and the rule of law, further tipping the scales to Biden.

Supreme Court is not going to uphold removal from the ballot and I don’t think any of them are swing states anyways?

[Hardcore troubadour 15,460]

When does Carroll get around to suing all the other men she said raped her? 

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1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

When does Carroll get around to suing all the other men she said raped her? 

What does Carroll have to do with the NBC poll thread topic?

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On 2/4/2024 at 11:20 AM, BeachGuy23 said:

Maybe the worst H2H poll for Biden.

If the DNC doesn’t replace him they’re handing the election to Trump.

He’s down massively with every group that carried him to victory in 2020.  And no amount of good economic news seems to impact the numbers.

He needs to be replaced ASAP.

But dems are dumb and they’ll go down ridin’ with Biden.

Was talking to some 20 somethings at work and both male and females said they hate Biden-Harris and Trump.

One female said "Why do we have to choose between a man who looks and acts like he has dementia, and another who is insane?"  We don`t relate to these 2 options. Some said they won`t for either.

Hard to argue with her as I and many feel the exact same

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1 minute ago, Mike Hunt said:

Was talking to some 20 somethings at work and both male and females said they hate Biden-Harris and Trump.

One female said "Why do we have to choose between a man who looks and acts like he has dementia, and another who is insane?"  We don`t relate to these 2 options. Some said they won`t for either.

Hard to argue with her as I and many feel the exact same

I'd like to know what makes you, and your 20 something colleagues, think Trump is insane.  He's a major A-hole and IMO isn't very bright, but that doesn't make him insane.  I agreed with many of his policies and would love to see them implemented again.  I think he handled Covid a million times better than Biden would have.  Doesn't mean I have to like the man personally.  So, what makes you think he's insane?

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On 2/4/2024 at 9:16 AM, The Real timschochet said:

If his primary goal is ultimately to avoid regulating the internet, he should support Republicans. 

His primary goal right now is buying up a bunch of land in Hawaii and essentially colonizing the area with his own cow farm. 

[TheNewGirl 1,496]

Also,  just realized that I am registered as no party preference which means I can't vote in the primary. 

Went online and updated that REAL quick! 

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10 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

Supreme Court is not going to uphold removal from the ballot and I don’t think any of them are swing states anyways?

Actually yes. Maine selects delegates based on winner of Congressional district and President Trump picked up an electoral vote there.

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On 2/4/2024 at 6:55 PM, BeachGuy23 said:

What makes you say this? 

 

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14 hours ago, Strike said:

I'd like to know what makes you, and your 20 something colleagues, think Trump is insane.  He's a major A-hole and IMO isn't very bright, but that doesn't make him insane.  I agreed with many of his policies and would love to see them implemented again.  I think he handled Covid a million times better than Biden would have.  Doesn't mean I have to like the man personally.  So, what makes you think he's insane?

They have been indoctrinated to think that way.  The government, well......politicians, have been leveraging their access to media and education to manipulate these kids for years now.

William Shriver was an NBC  journalist from like....the early 1900's....he wrote about this happening....

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"I myself was to experience how easily one is taken in by a lying and censored, pressing radio in a totalitarian state it was surprising, and sometimes concentrating to find that notwithstanding the opportunities I had to learn the facts, and despite ones inherit distrust of what one learn from Nazi sources, a steady diet over the years of false vacations and distortions, made a certain impression on mind, and often misled it."

 

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We have Hitler!  

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Nobody mentioning the Quinnipiac poll that came out last week that had Biden up 5% among likely voters? 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,460]

39 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Nobody mentioning the Quinnipiac poll that came out last week that had Biden up 5% among likely voters? 

I know a couple of kids that went to Quinnipiac. It’s a school for dumb rich kids. Pass. 

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15 hours ago, TheNewGirl said:

His primary goal right now is buying up a bunch of land in Hawaii and essentially colonizing the area with his own cow farm. 

That squid seems like he would be into horses.

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52 minutes ago, MDC said:

We have Hitler!  

Trump Team Responds to Hitler Accusations by Proving Accusers Right

Trump Knows What He’s Doing’: The Creator of Godwin’s Law Says the Hitler Comparison Is Apt

CNN’s Christiane Amanpour accuses Trump of ‘Nazi talk’

Trump responds to Hitler comparison

Why Biden’s campaign keeps linking Trump to Hitler

 

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Without voter ID and with mail in ballots anything is possible.