Gas vs hybrid vs electric

[Hardcore troubadour 15,019]

Just now, IGotWorms said:

You’re pretty good at non sequiturs

Why would you want one? The environment? No, they are bad for the environment. Save money? You won’t without the subsidy. Seem like valid questions. 

[MLCKAA 550]

Haven’t read all this thread, so maybe others feel the same way as me.

For me, the hybrid is just super sensible.  I k know there is still a battery disposal conundrum, but automatically switching between gas and electric and self-charging…just so sensible.  My employer provides my wheels but, if I needed to buy my own, I’d certainly give the hybrids a serious look.

[Baker Boy 1,691]

1 hour ago, thegeneral said:

Speak for yourself. Tons of projects in my area using that cash. 

Sorry Donald couldn’t figure out how to get it done

Can you name a half dozen of the tons of projects that are using this cash in your area?

[IGotWorms 4,057]

8 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Why would you want one? The environment? No, they are bad for the environment. Save money? You won’t without the subsidy. Seem like valid questions. 

Ah okay, see, you are making a huge leap there with your first assertion, and expecting me to go along with it. So maybe next time you need to spell out what wacko right wing beliefs are underpinning your question and then our conversation will go smoother.

I would buy it for the environment primarily, yes. 

[Bert 1,128]

2 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Ah okay, see, you are making a huge leap there with your first assertion, and expecting me to go along with it. So maybe next time you need to spell out what wacko right wing beliefs are underpinning your question and then our conversation will go smoother.

I would buy it for the environment primarily, yes. 

The hybrid is good for the environment the full electric really isn't.  Maybe that is what caused the confusion? 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

Just now, Bert said:

The hybrid is good for the environment the full electric really isn't.  Maybe that is what caused the confusion? 

No I think what caused the confusion is I don’t agree with you on that

[Bert 1,128]

1 minute ago, IGotWorms said:

No I think what caused the confusion is I don’t agree with you on that

Good luck with that.  Have a good weekend.  

[thegeneral 3,015]

56 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

You are on the left coast.  Of course the money wasn’t going to real Americans.  7 charging stations in 2 years?   That’s good?

There is money going everywhere. Republicans around the country bragging about the projects they brought to their districts and states.

[thegeneral 3,015]

27 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

Can you name a half dozen of the tons of projects that are using this cash in your area?

Go ahead and Google it just like I did.

[Strike 5,290]

19 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

No I think what caused the confusion is I don’t agree with you on that

EVs come from the factory with a much larger carbon footprint than a gas vehicle.  The best estimates I've seen say it takes 6-8 years before an EV is on an equal level as a gas powered vehicle re: their carbon footprint.  And that's without the whole what do we do with these batteries when they need replacing thing.  So an EV will get there.......eventually......but short term they're as bad or worse for the environment than any gas powered vehicle.

[Baker Boy 1,691]

4 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Go ahead and Google it just like I did.

But you chose not to list them. Come on, there are tons of them. You should be able to name a couple of them.

 

[thegeneral 3,015]

42 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

I don’t have much of a commute so I’ve got gas powered for longer distances. If I had a daily commute I probably would go electric. If you can charge them at your house the whole charging stations thing really is not an issue other than for road trips

This is the perfect setup IMO for multi car households. We have this and we use the EV for almost all trips around town plus my commute. 

Took a couple years for this range anxiety to not be an issue. Don’t even think about it now.

Apartment living, very cold temps, houses who only have one car who tow shet or drive all over the place on the weekend I get the reluctance. 

[thegeneral 3,015]

1 minute ago, Baker Boy said:

But you chose not to list them. Come on there are tons of them. You should be able to name a couple of them.

 

Here

[Mike Honcho 5,152]

37 minutes ago, Baker Boy said:

Can you name a half dozen of the tons of projects that are using this cash in your area?

If he doesn't, here is a list of projects that Republicans are claiming the credit even though the voted against the bill?

Or Republicans Keep Taking Credit For Local Broadband Projects Funded By Federal Bills They Voted Against

or  MTG Dragged for Bragging About Bill She Actually Voted Against

Must be a pretty good bill since all the people are bragging about the jobs it's creating.

 

[Tree of Knowledge 1,737]

13 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

There is money going everywhere. Republicans around the country bragging about the projects they brought to their districts and states.

Rep. Jaypal still boasting about human size pooper scoopers, power washers and garbage cans for syringes?

[Tree of Knowledge 1,737]

1 minute ago, Mike Honcho said:

If he doesn't, here is a list of projects that Republicans are claiming the credit even though the voted against the bill?

Or Republicans Keep Taking Credit For Local Broadband Projects Funded By Federal Bills They Voted Against

or  MTG Dragged for Bragging About Bill She Actually Voted Against

Must be a pretty good bill since all the people are bragging about the jobs it's creating.

 

Any MTG article must have copious pictures.    

[thegeneral 3,015]

1 minute ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Rep. Jaypal still boasting about human size pooper scoopers, power washers and garbage cans for syringes?

I’m all for power washing the sidewalks. Get after it, I am oddly addicted to power washing all kinds of stuff all around my house

I’m guessing your Congressman and Senator have taken credit for projects in your area. Even if they voted against it.

[Baker Boy 1,691]

9 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Here

Thank you.

[thegeneral 3,015]

1 minute ago, Tree of Knowledge said:

Any MTG article must have copious pictures.    

For DC she’s a solid 9.

[SUXBNME 1,458]

4 hours ago, thegeneral said:

 

They have way less shet to break on them, 

 

100% not true

[thegeneral 3,015]

5 minutes ago, SUXBNME said:

100% not true

No tranny, fewer moving parts, regen breaking. Only thing I have done on mine is fixed a light that was letting water in and some software update that didn’t finish. Zero other maintenance 50k miles in.

Need tires soon. 

[BunnysBastatrds 2,326]

 We owned a Lexus Hybrid. Great vehicle for all around driving daily and on trips. 

[easilyscan 881]

I thought ethanol was the answer 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

10 hours ago, Strike said:

EVs come from the factory with a much larger carbon footprint than a gas vehicle.  The best estimates I've seen say it takes 6-8 years before an EV is on an equal level as a gas powered vehicle re: their carbon footprint.  And that's without the whole what do we do with these batteries when they need replacing thing.  So an EV will get there.......eventually......but short term they're as bad or worse for the environment than any gas powered vehicle.

That’s probably fair. I’m taking a long term outlook in terms of the electrical grid being shifted away from non renewables and so forth 

[Gepetto 1,307]

I'm all in on electric for my next vehicle. 

[Alias Detective 1,390]

On 4/5/2024 at 11:51 AM, IGotWorms said:

I don’t have much of a commute so I’ve got gas powered for longer distances. If I had a daily commute I probably would go electric. If you can charge them at your house the whole charging stations thing really is not an issue other than for road trips

Other than.  OMFG………..BW……………….

[DonS 3,292]

On 4/5/2024 at 3:46 PM, thegeneral said:

No tranny, fewer moving parts, regen breaking. Only thing I have done on mine is fixed a light that was letting water in and some software update that didn’t finish. Zero other maintenance 50k miles in.

Need tires soon. 

ANOTHER TRANNY POST!!!! 

 

[thegeneral 3,015]

21 minutes ago, DonS said:

ANOTHER TRANNY POST!!!! 

 

There’s no pictures so won’t get traction here.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,019]

Gas and energy prices continue to rise due to Bidens policy.  Not much he can do about it now. This won’t help at the polls. 

[edjr 6,578]

3 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Gas and energy prices continue to ride die to Bidens policy.  Not much he can do about it now. This won’t help at the polls. 

 

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