JuneJuly 210 Posted August 8, 2024 1 minute ago, MDC said: I can see how a career shyster like Don continues to find rubes like you to grab their ankles. Biden passed more of Trump’s 2016 agenda than Trump. Now you guys want policy - gtfo. Are you sure? Because you're not capable of discussing policy. Even if you were capable, you can't because Harris doesn't have any. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Herbivore 1,134 Posted August 8, 2024 40 minutes ago, jerryskids said: As has been pointed out Harris and Walz have no policy. Zero. Their plan to win is to keep Harris sequestered as much as possible, rely on folks like Tim to eat up and spread the "we're so enthused!" message, and in a perfect world, never have her speak off script. I for one would like to see her in more than one "debate" where George Snuffalupagus gives her the questions and answer key. What are you guys afraid of? I've been told that she'll mop the floor with Trump. Yeah, I expect they roll out policy at the dnc. Fine with whatever, just think 3 is overkill. No one is afraid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted August 8, 2024 1 minute ago, JuneJuly said: Are you sure? Because you're not capable of discussing policy. Even if you were capable, you can't because Harris doesn't have any. So far she has a pretty solid policy of not putting up with Donald’s sh1t Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuneJuly 210 Posted August 8, 2024 1 minute ago, IGotWorms said: So far she has a pretty solid policy of not putting up with Donald’s sh1t Link? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,429 Posted August 8, 2024 1 minute ago, JuneJuly said: Are you sure? Because you're not capable of discussing policy. Even if you were capable, you can't because Harris doesn't have any. I don’t know what Harris’s policies are. I know that Trump’s are a lot of hot air. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuneJuly 210 Posted August 8, 2024 1 minute ago, MDC said: I don’t know what Harris’s policies are. I know that Trump’s are a lot of hot air. I particularly liked the tax cuts and he's promised more. Also the border crossing numbers you don't want to discuss. But the numbers don't lie. My advise would be to try and not vote based on your emotion and feelings. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted August 8, 2024 4 minutes ago, JuneJuly said: Link? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,273 Posted August 8, 2024 2 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: Good thing the MSM made sure to tell us all to get excited, cuz what a boring orator, amirite? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,436 Posted August 8, 2024 3 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: She must have prosecuted some pretty big cases. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,027 Posted August 8, 2024 So when is the kameltoe gonna do some interviews, talk to the press, answer some questions about what she's running on? Is she gonna just hide in her basement like creepy joe does? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuneJuly 210 Posted August 8, 2024 I'm going to do a little border education for @The Real timschochet Here is an example of new border wall going up - old vehicular barrier on the left, new human barrier on the right. The old bollards didn't stop anyone on foot. https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2020/02/13/border-wall-pic-6805d496e8732bb5d23f806465c2b95e606b9fe1.jpg Here is brand new, brand new. Cut right into the mountainside. https://media.newyorker.com/photos/626ac06aad26e4073aebcfdb/master/pass/Taladrid-BorderWall-JohnKurc_3.jpg Brand new, glorious. https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/017e3bed61fd94de9af0dbee8ace5e49b81fdc7e/0_65_9504_5702/master/9504.jpg?width=1200&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=01d49280a52bc367b982dec96bee7784 More little barb wire being replaced with real wall. https://www.tfc.texas.gov/wall/wall061424.jpg Gorgeous https://www.tfc.texas.gov/wall/wall3-22b.jpg Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,769 Posted August 8, 2024 2 minutes ago, JuneJuly said: I'm going to do a little border education for @The Real timschochet Here is an example of new border wall going up - old vehicular barrier on the left, new human barrier on the right. The old bollards didn't stop anyone on foot. https://media.npr.org/assets/img/2020/02/13/border-wall-pic-6805d496e8732bb5d23f806465c2b95e606b9fe1.jpg Here is brand new, brand new. Cut right into the mountainside. https://media.newyorker.com/photos/626ac06aad26e4073aebcfdb/master/pass/Taladrid-BorderWall-JohnKurc_3.jpg Brand new, glorious. https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/017e3bed61fd94de9af0dbee8ace5e49b81fdc7e/0_65_9504_5702/master/9504.jpg?width=1200&quality=85&auto=format&fit=max&s=01d49280a52bc367b982dec96bee7784 More little barb wire being replaced with real wall. https://www.tfc.texas.gov/wall/wall061424.jpg Gorgeous https://www.tfc.texas.gov/wall/wall3-22b.jpg When I have more time I will be happy to discuss this with you in the other thread you set up. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,058 Posted August 8, 2024 7 minutes ago, Fnord said: Good thing the MSM made sure to tell us all to get excited, cuz what a boring orator, amirite? True, I totally wouldn’t have known to take note when one candidate for president calls the other a fraudster and a rapist Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,429 Posted August 8, 2024 16 minutes ago, JuneJuly said: I particularly liked the tax cuts and he's promised more. Also the border crossing numbers you don't want to discuss. But the numbers don't lie. My advise would be to try and not vote based on your emotion and feelings. Tax cuts and the border are pretty low down my list of issues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,273 Posted August 8, 2024 5 minutes ago, IGotWorms said: True, I totally wouldn’t have known to take note when one candidate for president calls the other a fraudster and a rapist She did that? How CLEVER! I sure wish MSNBC had pointed that out to me today so I could do better at falling in line :drool: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuneJuly 210 Posted August 8, 2024 7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: When I have more time I will be happy to discuss this with you in the other thread you set up. That's fine. We deal in facts though. Not "Of those 452 miles, only 40 miles were new" lies that can be easily disproven with Google Earth,. Keep your gaslighting and make-believe in your own thread. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuneJuly 210 Posted August 8, 2024 3 minutes ago, MDC said: Tax cuts and the border are pretty low down my list of issues. Cool. Whatever your top priorities are wouldn't it be nice to see where they are on Kamala's agenda? We may never know. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,429 Posted August 8, 2024 Just now, JuneJuly said: Cool. Whatever your top priorities are wouldn't it be nice to see where they are on Kamala's agenda? We may never know. That would be nice. And I’ll decide whether I’m going to vote for her when I find out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,799 Posted August 8, 2024 6 minutes ago, Fnord said: She did that? How CLEVER! I sure wish MSNBC had pointed that out to me today so I could do better at falling in line :drool: That prepared, teleprompter statement was presented fairly well. I think it wasn't the first time in the past few weeks she has said it, but if that kind of thing makes you feel hopey and changey, then good for you. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,027 Posted August 8, 2024 3 minutes ago, MDC said: That would be nice. And I’ll decide whether I’m going to vote for her when I find out. Your TDS won't allow you to vote in any other way. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,429 Posted August 8, 2024 2 minutes ago, seafoam1 said: Your TDS won't allow you to vote in any other way. I definitely won’t be voting for Trump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,027 Posted August 8, 2024 1 minute ago, MDC said: I definitely won’t be voting for Trump. No dumbass liberals will. But we know that already. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted August 8, 2024 Are democrats seriously ok with Kamala automatically being the candidate? That bothers the crap out of me. No one voted for her to be in this position but they seem eager to vote for her as President. I don't care if you hate Trump, this is just wrong. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndyColtsFan 325 Posted August 8, 2024 Good lord this rambling, unhinged Trump speech today, so full of hate, negativity, hypercatastrophizing, whining and fear-mongering. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,778 Posted August 8, 2024 1 minute ago, IndyColtsFan said: Good lord this rambling, unhinged Trump speech today, so full of hate, negativity, hypercatastrophizing, whining and fear-mongering. When is kamals presser Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndyColtsFan 325 Posted August 8, 2024 1 minute ago, HellToupee said: When is kamals presser She and Walz campaigned in Detroit today. Super easy to look up! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,027 Posted August 8, 2024 Just now, IndyColtsFan said: She and Walz campaigned in Detroit today. Super easy to look up! Walzy said he carried weapons into combat. Oh shlt. That's gonna catch up to him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted August 8, 2024 1 hour ago, Gladiators said: Their only goal appears to be defeating Trump...policy is irrelevant. 2 things: 1.) Their is policy implied on her website. It isn't laid out in bullet points nicely but you can read between the lines on it. But it's bad website design to have it not specifically laid out in a quick hit manner. 2.) The GOP has had their convention already the Democrats have not. I'd imagine once the convention passes they will more clearly outline their policy. If they still do not at that point- well again, that isn't wise. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,027 Posted August 8, 2024 4 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: 2 things: 1.) I have severe TDS 2.) I really didn't need to put both a period and a closed parenthesis to make 2 lame points. But, my limited brain is all I got. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,799 Posted August 8, 2024 1 hour ago, thegeneral said: His state he ran until he took this gig is ranked 5th for business Well, that could be because of Minnesota's #1 highest corporate tax rate of 9.8% https://www.nfib.com/content/news/minnesota/were-1-minnesotas-corporate-tax-now-highest-in-u-s/ We all know that that is a recipe for business expansion. Alternatively, Minnesota makes a ton of money on oil refining. https://www.google.com/search?q=minnesota+fossil+fuel+businesses&sca_esv=b65d078a24b2342d&sxsrf=ADLYWIKjveJ6QM2tFRbU8G_YOdiTBRbT6g%3A1723150521505&ei=uTC1ZprCHsOtur8P46rj4Aw&ved=0ahUKEwjagur1o-aHAxXDlu4BHWPVGMwQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=minnesota+fossil+fuel+businesses&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAaAhgCIiBtaW5uZXNvdGEgZm9zc2lsIGZ1ZWwgYnVzaW5lc3NlczIFECEYoAEyBRAhGKABMgUQIRigATIFECEYoAEyBRAhGKABMgUQIRifBTIFECEYnwVIsmpQ4RVYm2RwA3gBkAEAmAF5oAH9EKoBBTExLjExuAEDyAEA-AEBmAIZoAL4EcICChAAGLADGNYEGEfCAhEQABiABBiRAhixAxiDARiKBcICCxAAGIAEGJECGIoFwgILEAAYgAQYsQMYgwHCAg0QABiABBixAxgUGIcCwgILEC4YgAQYsQMYgwHCAgoQABiABBgUGIcCwgIQEC4YgAQYsQMYgwEYFBiHAsICBRAAGIAEwgILEC4YgAQYxwEYrwHCAggQABiABBiLA8ICDRAAGIAEGBQYhwIYiwPCAigQLhiABBixAxiDARgUGIcCGJcFGNwEGN4EGOAEGPQDGPEDGPUD2AEBwgINEAAYgAQYsQMYChiLA8ICBhAAGBYYHsICBhAuGBYYHsICCBAAGBYYHhgPwgILEAAYgAQYhgMYigXCAggQABiABBiiBMICBRAhGKsCmAMAiAYBkAYIugYGCAEQARgUkgcFMTIuMTOgB-KdAQ&sclient=gws-wiz-serp which might put a damper on Walz's clean energy goal. Also, and don't pull the racist card because I'm providing facts about the complex system which is the state of Minnesota: at 62% white, it is very homogeneous by American standards. If we extend all of these system dynamics to the entire country, I think we could increase business growth as well. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,553 Posted August 8, 2024 9 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: 2 things: 1.) Their is policy implied on her website. It isn't laid out in bullet points nicely but you can read between the lines on it. But it's bad website design to have it not specifically laid out in a quick hit manner. 2.) The GOP has had their convention already the Democrats have not. I'd imagine once the convention passes they will more clearly outline their policy. If they still do not at that point- well again, that isn't wise. THERE is? I must be missing it. https://kamalaharris.com/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted August 8, 2024 15 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Are democrats seriously ok with Kamala automatically being the candidate? That bothers the crap out of me. No one voted for her to be in this position but they seem eager to vote for her as President. I don't care if you hate Trump, this is just wrong. Sometimes one finds themselves down to any port in a storm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,436 Posted August 8, 2024 2 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Well, that could be because of Minnesota's #1 highest corporate tax rate of 9.8% https://www.nfib.com/content/news/minnesota/were-1-minnesotas-corporate-tax-now-highest-in-u-s/ We all know that that is a recipe for business expansion. Alternatively, Minnesota makes a ton of money on oil refining. https://www.google.com/search?q=minnesota+fossil+fuel+businesses&sca_esv=b65d078a24b2342d&sxsrf=ADLYWIKjveJ6QM2tFRbU8G_YOdiTBRbT6g%3A1723150521505&ei=uTC1ZprCHsOtur8P46rj4Aw&ved=0ahUKEwjagur1o-aHAxXDlu4BHWPVGMwQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=minnesota+fossil+fuel+businesses&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAaAhgCIiBtaW5uZXNvdGEgZm9zc2lsIGZ1ZWwgYnVzaW5lc3NlczIFECEYoAEyBRAhGKABMgUQIRigATIFECEYoAEyBRAhGKABMgUQIRifBTIFECEYnwVIsmpQ4RVYm2RwA3gBkAEAmAF5oAH9EKoBBTExLjExuAEDyAEA-AEBmAIZoAL4EcICChAAGLADGNYEGEfCAhEQABiABBiRAhixAxiDARiKBcICCxAAGIAEGJECGIoFwgILEAAYgAQYsQMYgwHCAg0QABiABBixAxgUGIcCwgILEC4YgAQYsQMYgwHCAgoQABiABBgUGIcCwgIQEC4YgAQYsQMYgwEYFBiHAsICBRAAGIAEwgILEC4YgAQYxwEYrwHCAggQABiABBiLA8ICDRAAGIAEGBQYhwIYiwPCAigQLhiABBixAxiDARgUGIcCGJcFGNwEGN4EGOAEGPQDGPEDGPUD2AEBwgINEAAYgAQYsQMYChiLA8ICBhAAGBYYHsICBhAuGBYYHsICCBAAGBYYHhgPwgILEAAYgAQYhgMYigXCAggQABiABBiiBMICBRAhGKsCmAMAiAYBkAYIugYGCAEQARgUkgcFMTIuMTOgB-KdAQ&sclient=gws-wiz-serp which might put a damper on Walz's clean energy goal. Also, and don't pull the racist card because I'm providing facts about the complex system which is the state of Minnesota: at 62% white, it is very homogeneous by American standards. If we extend all of these system dynamics to the entire country, I think we could increase business growth as well. According to the last census it’s 76 pct. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,983 Posted August 8, 2024 3 minutes ago, Strike said: THERE is? I must be missing it. https://kamalaharris.com/ If you look at the "Meet Kamala Harris" section as it goes through what they've done so far you can infer what she will look to do as President. But again- that is why I noted it isn't explicitly laid out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted August 8, 2024 10 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: According to the last census it’s 76 pct. Things have changed since I lived there. I left in 1989 when the state was still around 96% white. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,799 Posted August 8, 2024 5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: According to the last census it’s 76 pct. Interesting... my Google AI seemed to let me down. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuneJuly 210 Posted August 8, 2024 17 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said: 1.) Their is policy implied on her website. It isn't laid out in bullet points nicely but you can read between the lines on it. But it's bad website design to have it not specifically laid out in a quick hit manner. Link? There isn't an ounce of policy anywhere on their website. Implied? It's blue so it's democrat policy implied? Guy blames it on website design. lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,799 Posted August 8, 2024 The Harris website still lies about Walz's military rank. Quote He enlisted in the Army National Guard when he turned 17 and served for 24 years, rising to the rank of Command Sergeant Major. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted August 8, 2024 9 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Well, that could be because of Minnesota's #1 highest corporate tax rate of 9.8% https://www.nfib.com/content/news/minnesota/were-1-minnesotas-corporate-tax-now-highest-in-u-s/ We all know that that is a recipe for business expansion. Alternatively, Minnesota makes a ton of money on oil refining. https://www.google.com/search?q=minnesota+fossil+fuel+businesses&sca_esv=b65d078a24b2342d&sxsrf=ADLYWIKjveJ6QM2tFRbU8G_YOdiTBRbT6g%3A1723150521505&ei=uTC1ZprCHsOtur8P46rj4Aw&ved=0ahUKEwjagur1o-aHAxXDlu4BHWPVGMwQ4dUDCBA&uact=5&oq=minnesota+fossil+fuel+businesses&gs_lp=Egxnd3Mtd2l6LXNlcnAaAhgCIiBtaW5uZXNvdGEgZm9zc2lsIGZ1ZWwgYnVzaW5lc3NlczIFECEYoAEyBRAhGKABMgUQIRigATIFECEYoAEyBRAhGKABMgUQIRifBTIFECEYnwVIsmpQ4RVYm2RwA3gBkAEAmAF5oAH9EKoBBTExLjExuAEDyAEA-AEBmAIZoAL4EcICChAAGLADGNYEGEfCAhEQABiABBiRAhixAxiDARiKBcICCxAAGIAEGJECGIoFwgILEAAYgAQYsQMYgwHCAg0QABiABBixAxgUGIcCwgILEC4YgAQYsQMYgwHCAgoQABiABBgUGIcCwgIQEC4YgAQYsQMYgwEYFBiHAsICBRAAGIAEwgILEC4YgAQYxwEYrwHCAggQABiABBiLA8ICDRAAGIAEGBQYhwIYiwPCAigQLhiABBixAxiDARgUGIcCGJcFGNwEGN4EGOAEGPQDGPEDGPUD2AEBwgINEAAYgAQYsQMYChiLA8ICBhAAGBYYHsICBhAuGBYYHsICCBAAGBYYHhgPwgILEAAYgAQYhgMYigXCAggQABiABBiiBMICBRAhGKsCmAMAiAYBkAYIugYGCAEQARgUkgcFMTIuMTOgB-KdAQ&sclient=gws-wiz-serp which might put a damper on Walz's clean energy goal. Also, and don't pull the racist card because I'm providing facts about the complex system which is the state of Minnesota: at 62% white, it is very homogeneous by American standards. If we extend all of these system dynamics to the entire country, I think we could increase business growth as well. High corporate tax rate yet they still do fine and companies thrive there Not following your point about the whites. Producing energy is obviously important. Personally just asking to move away from dirty sources as fast as possible without damaging our economy. Definitely a fan of promoting new energy sources through tax breaks and we should lead in this category. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,273 Posted August 8, 2024 13 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: According to the last census it’s 76 pct. You seem jealous. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites