thegeneral 2,929 Posted September 25, 2024 2 minutes ago, jonmx said: Of horse Well played! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,424 Posted September 25, 2024 13 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I will bet you $1,000 that Kamala Harris wins the popular vote. No, 2 points is still within the MOE. Harris might still win the popular vote by less than 1 percent, but even so will still probably lose. Polling which show Harris +4 are total frauds. Harris slim hope is to sweep the PA-MI-WI rust belt and hold on to several other marginal states like VA. Once any of those states go Trump it is over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,627 Posted September 25, 2024 28 minutes ago, jonmx said: No, 2 points is still within the MOE. Harris might still win the popular vote by less than 1 percent, but even so will still probably lose. Polling which show Harris +4 are total frauds. Harris slim hope is to sweep the PA-MI-WI rust belt and hold on to several other marginal states like VA. Once any of those states go Trump it is over. Do you still think Trump will win NC by 4-8 points or does Mark Robinson being exposed (pun intended) change that? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,959 Posted September 25, 2024 NJ tightened up. Biden won by 15. Harris lead is at 5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rabbit Range 51 Posted September 25, 2024 2 hours ago, IndyColtsFan said: Alex Wagner looks pretty damned yummy in a pair of jeans. Damn right! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,959 Posted September 25, 2024 Joe Mancin won’t endorse Kamala. Must be racist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sean Mooney 1,948 Posted September 25, 2024 The Mooney Presidential Prediction: As of 09/25/24 I predict Trump wins the White House with 281 electoral votes to Harris 257. I'm no more or less credible than anyone else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,576 Posted September 25, 2024 15 hours ago, TimHauck said: And yet Musk also posted this. Dude’s a genius and great businessman, but a giant hypocrite. That first tweet is from a parody account Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,424 Posted September 25, 2024 11 minutes ago, jerryskids said: That first tweet is from a parody account When you parody the left, give it a few years and it will be true. Kamala and her ilk will use every means available by the massive reach of federal authority to take down Musk. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,893 Posted September 25, 2024 https://media.scored.co/scale/D4vq2x1ltHV3xh51.png Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,627 Posted September 25, 2024 21 minutes ago, jerryskids said: That first tweet is from a parody account Good catch, although Musk has expressed similar sentiments about “if Harris says she is going to do something as President, why isn’t she doing it now?” (which honestly I mostly agree with). But it’s hypocritical to then project that she’s going to ban X, just not do it until she’s President. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,850 Posted September 25, 2024 5 minutes ago, TimHauck said: Good catch, although Musk has expressed similar sentiments about “if Harris says she is going to do something as President, why isn’t she doing it now?” (which honestly I mostly agree with). But it’s hypocritical to then project that she’s going to ban X, just not do it until she’s President. But, but, but, but !!!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,929 Posted September 25, 2024 Confirmed Trump is a and https://thehill.com/homenews/media/4898291-bret-baier-trump-not-harris-debate-holdup-fox-news/amp/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,576 Posted September 25, 2024 2 hours ago, TimHauck said: Good catch, although Musk has expressed similar sentiments about “if Harris says she is going to do something as President, why isn’t she doing it now?” (which honestly I mostly agree with). But it’s hypocritical to then project that she’s going to ban X, just not do it until she’s President. No it's not hypocritical. The plan with Kamala is for her to absolutely do nothing as VP, because if she does, she has to take ownership of the current administration (which she should already have, but people are easily duped). This is why, for instance, she won't invoke the 25th amendment, despite the fact that a brain dead person is currently at the helm. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
purdygood 335 Posted September 25, 2024 47 minutes ago, edjr said: Also though, sometimes voting against a horrible candidate for a (in your opinion) less horrible candidate is a way to send a message. And hope both parties get their act together in 4 years. It's kinda like religion, hope and faith. One vote at a time. Then we die and none of it matters when the sun explodes in 8 billion years. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,627 Posted September 25, 2024 2 hours ago, jerryskids said: No it's not hypocritical. The plan with Kamala is for her to absolutely do nothing as VP, because if she does, she has to take ownership of the current administration (which she should already have, but people are easily duped). This is why, for instance, she won't invoke the 25th amendment, despite the fact that a brain dead person is currently at the helm. Wait, people don’t think she “takes ownership of the current administration”? Can’t speak for everyone but I feel like most people planning to vote for her are more doing so based on what she’s “done” so far than what she says she’s going to do. But JMO 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,578 Posted September 25, 2024 28 minutes ago, purdygood said: Also though, sometimes voting against a horrible candidate for a (in your opinion) less horrible candidate is a way to send a message. And hope both parties get their act together in 4 years. It's kinda like religion, hope and faith. One vote at a time. Then we die and none of it matters when the sun explodes in 8 billion years. voting for the worst of 2 candidates is the worst idea possible for a POTUS 2 party system sucks and blows Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
purdygood 335 Posted September 25, 2024 4 minutes ago, edjr said: voting for the worst of 2 candidates is the worst idea possible for a POTUS 2 party system sucks and blows Agreed. It's the "suckiest bunch of sucks that ever sucked" (Homer Simpson) but it's what we are stuck with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,113 Posted September 25, 2024 20 minutes ago, edjr said: voting for the worst of 2 candidates is the worst idea possible for a POTUS 2 party system sucks and blows 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
purdygood 335 Posted September 25, 2024 Just now, Mike Honcho said: "There is a 4'O'Clock in the morning now!?" "Me fail english? That's unpossible" This thread has been "Embiggened" by all of us "tying a Onion to our belt." That is the new style. All hail the lizard Queen! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,447 Posted September 25, 2024 Reuters/Ipsos Harris takes a 7 point lead national poll: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/4898135-vice-president-harris-trump-lead/amp/ Other national polls are closer. But if this one is accurate Harris will be our next President. It’s almost mathematically impossible to win the popular vote by 7 points and still lose the electoral college. That won’t happen. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TrailGuy 552 Posted September 25, 2024 Harris is still the betting favorite. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
EternalShinyAndChrome 3,850 Posted September 25, 2024 Headline: Polls Show Harris in Lead Tim: Believe the polls! Headline 1 week Later: Polls show Trump leading! Tim: Don't believe the polls! Just like an emotional teenage girl, rinse and repeat every day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beaker15 233 Posted September 25, 2024 17 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Headline: Polls Show Harris in Lead Tim: Believe the polls! Headline 1 week Later: Polls show Trump leading! Tim: Don't believe the polls! Just like an emotional teenage girl, rinse and repeat every day. Yep, Tim is a glass half full type of guy who only believed polls that favor Harris. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,424 Posted September 25, 2024 2 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Reuters/Ipsos Harris takes a 7 point lead national poll: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/4898135-vice-president-harris-trump-lead/amp/ Other national polls are closer. But if this one is accurate Harris will be our next President. It’s almost mathematically impossible to win the popular vote by 7 points and still lose the electoral college. That won’t happen. Total horse shite poll. If you even remotely believe this bogus poll, you should be willing to to take Harris minus 1% in the popular poll. Honest polling is showing the national numbers at even to Trump up by 3 points on Harris. Harris chances are fading really fast for any path to a victory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,447 Posted September 25, 2024 36 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said: Headline: Polls Show Harris in Lead Tim: Believe the polls! Headline 1 week Later: Polls show Trump leading! Tim: Don't believe the polls! Just like an emotional teenage girl, rinse and repeat every day. Link to where I ever wrote don’t believe the polls? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,447 Posted September 25, 2024 3 minutes ago, jonmx said: Total horse shite poll. If you even remotely believe this bogus poll, you should be willing to to take Harris minus 1% in the popular poll. Honest polling is showing the national numbers at even to Trump up by 3 points on Harris. Harris chances are fading really fast for any path to a victory. OK Baghdad Bob. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonmx 2,424 Posted September 25, 2024 7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: OK Baghdad Bob. Let's see who is more honest. The establishment media and their BS polls or independent media. You're an idiot if you believe anything which says Harris +4 or Harris +7. There is not a single group Harris is polling better than what Biden or Hillary did. In fact Harris is doing worse within every group. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,929 Posted September 25, 2024 If I am betting I’d say Harris will win popular vote by greater amount than Hillary did. I think it will be around the same as Biden won by which was 4.5%. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,576 Posted September 25, 2024 3 hours ago, TimHauck said: Wait, people don’t think she “takes ownership of the current administration”? Can’t speak for everyone but I feel like most people planning to vote for her are more doing so based on what she’s “done” so far than what she says she’s going to do. But JMO When has Kamala taken any ownership for the current administration? The DNC is spending millions of dollars to present her as the new, "change" candidate, full of joy and... more joy, dammit! Be joyful! Your assertion is ludicrous on the surface, unless you believe most people voting for her are voting for the most progressive record in the Senate, a left-of-Bernie set of positions in the 2020 election, paid medical transing for illegal aliens and prisoners, kill fracking, Medicare for all, decriminalize illegal border crossings... then as VP, overseeing the border clusterfock, being the last person in the room on the Afghanistan disaster, and otherwise accomplishing nothing but being a fundamentally unelectable candidate so bad, that the DNC continues running a braind-dead person instead of her, until it became untenable to do so. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IndyColtsFan 325 Posted September 25, 2024 2 minutes ago, jerryskids said: When has Kamala taken any ownership for the current administration? The DNC is spending millions of dollars to present her as the new, "change" candidate, full of joy and... more joy, dammit! Be joyful! Your assertion is ludicrous on the surface, unless you believe most people voting for her are voting for the most progressive record in the Senate, a left-of-Bernie set of positions in the 2020 election, paid medical transing for illegal aliens and prisoners, kill fracking, Medicare for all, decriminalize illegal border crossings... then as VP, overseeing the border clusterfock, being the last person in the room on the Afghanistan disaster, and otherwise accomplishing nothing but being a fundamentally unelectable candidate so bad, that the DNC continues running a braind-dead person instead of her, until it became untenable to do so. I would vote for Peefoam over Clownzo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,576 Posted September 25, 2024 5 minutes ago, IndyColtsFan said: I would vote for Peefoam over Clownzo. How intelligent of you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,627 Posted September 25, 2024 21 minutes ago, jerryskids said: When has Kamala taken any ownership for the current administration? The DNC is spending millions of dollars to present her as the new, "change" candidate, full of joy and... more joy, dammit! Be joyful! Your assertion is ludicrous on the surface, unless you believe most people voting for her are voting for the most progressive record in the Senate, a left-of-Bernie set of positions in the 2020 election, paid medical transing for illegal aliens and prisoners, kill fracking, Medicare for all, decriminalize illegal border crossings... then as VP, overseeing the border clusterfock, being the last person in the room on the Afghanistan disaster, and otherwise accomplishing nothing but being a fundamentally unelectable candidate so bad, that the DNC continues running a braind-dead person instead of her, until it became untenable to do so. it’s pretty much all over her website. https://kamalaharris.com/meet-kamala-harris/ As vice president, she’s been a trusted partner to President Joe Biden in their work to take on the powerful and make change for the people — from standing up against extremists to defending reproductive freedom to taking on Big Pharma to bring down prescription drug costs and cap the price of insulin at $35 a month for our seniors. The Biden-Harris administration has achieved a historic record of accomplishment, including: bringing our economy back from the brink of disaster to create nearly 16 million new jobs; investing over $1 trillion in infrastructure projects like repairing roads and bridges, removing every lead pipe in America, improving public transit, and expanding access to high-speed internet; strengthening the Affordable Care Act and lowering health insurance premiums to save millions of Americans an average of $800 per year; expanding health care for veterans exposed to toxins; enacting the first meaningful gun safety reform in decades and bringing violent crime down to a near 50-year low; passing the largest-ever investment in tackling the climate crisis; and appointing the first Black woman to the United States Supreme Court. https://kamalaharris.com/issues/ She has led the Biden-Harris Administration’s efforts to increase access to capital for small businesses and bring venture capital to parts of middle America that have for too long been overlooked, driving a record 19 million new business applications, tripling the Small Business Administration’s lending to Black-owned businesses, and more than doubling small-dollar lending to Latino and women-owned businesses. She has also championed expanding federal contracts for minority-owned small businesses. … She’ll build on the Biden-Harris Administration’s successes in bringing down the cost of lifesaving prescription drugs for Medicare beneficiaries by extending the $35 cap on insulin and $2,000 cap on out-of-pocket spending for seniors to all Americans. Her tie-breaking vote on the Inflation Reduction Act gave Medicare the power to go toe to toe with Big Pharma and negotiate lower drug prices. As President, she’ll accelerate the negotiations to cover more drugs and lower prices for Americans. As Vice President, she also announced that medical debt will be removed from credit reports, and helped cancel $7 billion of medical debt for 3 million Americans. As President, she’ll work with states to cancel medical debt for even more Americans. And Vice President Harris has led the Administration’s efforts to combat maternal mortality. Women nationwide are dying from childbirth at higher rates than in any other developed nation. The Vice President called on states to extend Medicaid postpartum coverage from two months to twelve: today, 46 states do so — up from just three near the Administration’s start. … Working with President Biden, Vice President Harris helped pass landmark legislation — the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, the CHIPS and Science Act, the Inflation Reduction Act, and the American Rescue Plan — that has supported more than 60,000 infrastructure projects, spurred more than $900 billion in private sector investments, and doubled investments in construction of new manufacturing facilities. This has included investing billions to help connect all Americans to accessible, affordable internet. After decades of offshoring, manufacturing is returning across America, from major cities to rural counties, creating good-paying jobs, including union jobs and jobs for those without college degrees. Under the Biden-Harris Administration, more than 1.6 million manufacturing and construction jobs have been created and American workers are rebuilding roads and bridges using materials made in America. Three times more auto jobs per month have been created under their watch than under the Trump Administration—even before the pandemic. And with these investments, the Biden-Harris Administration is showing how America can meet the moment and build the industries of the future while creating high-quality union jobs in the electric vehicle and battery supply chains. … Vice President Harris cast the deciding vote on the American Rescue Plan, which made historic investments in the care economy … As Vice President, she cast the tie-breaking vote to pass the Inflation Reduction Act, the largest investment in climate action in history. This historic work is lowering household energy costs, creating hundreds of thousands of high-quality clean energy jobs, and building a thriving clean energy economy, all while ensuring America’s energy security and independence with record energy production … In the White House, Vice President Harris helped deliver the largest investment in public safety ever, investing $15 billion in supporting local law enforcement and community safety programs across 1,000 cities, towns, and counties. President Biden and Vice President Harris encouraged bipartisan cooperation to pass the first major gun safety law in nearly 30 years, which included record funding to hire and train over 14,000 mental health professionals for our schools. As head of the first-ever White House Office of Gun Violence Prevention, she spearheaded policies to expand background checks and close the gun show loophole. Under her and President Biden’s leadership, violent crime is at a 50-year low, with the largest single-year drop in murders ever … As Vice President, she supported the bipartisan border security bill, the strongest reform in decades. The legislation would have deployed more detection technology to intercept fentanyl and other drugs and added 1,500 border security agents to protect our border. After Donald Trump killed the border deal for his political gain, she and President Biden took action on their own — and now border crossings are at the lowest level in 4 years, their administration is seizing record amounts of fentanyl, and secured funding for the most significant increase in border agents in ten years … In the White House, she helped direct more than $150 billion to disrupt the flow of illicit drugs and delivered billions of dollars in investments to states to fund lifesaving programs. Under the Biden-Harris Administration, the FDA made the overdose-reversal drug naloxone available over-the-counter. This past year, the number of overdose deaths in the United States declined for the first time in five years … Vice President Harris and President Biden have delivered the most significant expansion of benefits and services for veterans exposed to burn pits, Agent Orange, and other toxic substances in more than 30 years 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,929 Posted September 25, 2024 Harris economic speeches today in Pittsburgh. No cat eating talk or discussion about giant faucets in Canada that would give California unlimited water! 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,576 Posted September 25, 2024 5 minutes ago, TimHauck said: it’s pretty much all over her website. https://kamalaharris.com/meet-kamala-harris/ As vice president, she’s been a trusted partner to President Joe Biden in their work to take on the powerful and make change for the people — from standing up against extremists to defending reproductive freedom to taking on Big Pharma to bring down prescription drug costs and cap the price of insulin at $35 a month for our seniors. The Biden-Harris administration has achieved a historic record of accomplishment, including: bringing our economy back from the brink of disaster to create nearly 16 million new jobs; investing over $1 trillion in infrastructure projects like repairing roads and bridges, removing every lead pipe in America, improving public transit, and expanding access to high-speed internet; strengthening the Affordable Care Act and lowering health insurance premiums to save millions of Americans an average of $800 per year; expanding health care for veterans exposed to toxins; enacting the first meaningful gun safety reform in decades and bringing violent crime down to a near 50-year low; passing the largest-ever investment in tackling the climate crisis; and appointing the first Black woman to the United States Supreme Court. https://kamalaharris.com/issues/ She has led the Biden-Harris Administration’s efforts to increase access to capital for small businesses and bring venture capital to parts of middle America that have for too long been overlooked, driving a record 19 million new business applications, tripling the Small Business Administration’s lending to Black-owned businesses, and more than doubling small-dollar lending to Latino and women-owned businesses. She has also championed expanding federal contracts for minority-owned small businesses. … She’ll build on the Biden-Harris Administration’s successes in bringing down the cost of lifesaving prescription drugs for Medicare beneficiaries by extending the $35 cap on insulin and $2,000 cap on out-of-pocket spending for seniors to all Americans. Her tie-breaking vote on the Inflation Reduction Act gave Medicare the power to go toe to toe with Big Pharma and negotiate lower drug prices. As President, she’ll accelerate the negotiations to cover more drugs and lower prices for Americans. As Vice President, she also announced that medical debt will be removed from credit reports, and helped cancel $7 billion of medical debt for 3 million Americans. As President, she’ll work with states to cancel medical debt for even more Americans. And Vice President Harris has led the Administration’s efforts to combat maternal mortality. Women nationwide are dying from childbirth at higher rates than in any other developed nation. The Vice President called on states to extend Medicaid postpartum coverage from two months to twelve: today, 46 states do so — up from just three near the Administration’s start. … Working with President Biden, Vice President Harris helped pass landmark legislation — the Bipartisan Infrastructure Law, the CHIPS and Science Act, the Inflation Reduction Act, and the American Rescue Plan — that has supported more than 60,000 infrastructure projects, spurred more than $900 billion in private sector investments, and doubled investments in construction of new manufacturing facilities. This has included investing billions to help connect all Americans to accessible, affordable internet. After decades of offshoring, manufacturing is returning across America, from major cities to rural counties, creating good-paying jobs, including union jobs and jobs for those without college degrees. Under the Biden-Harris Administration, more than 1.6 million manufacturing and construction jobs have been created and American workers are rebuilding roads and bridges using materials made in America. Three times more auto jobs per month have been created under their watch than under the Trump Administration—even before the pandemic. And with these investments, the Biden-Harris Administration is showing how America can meet the moment and build the industries of the future while creating high-quality union jobs in the electric vehicle and battery supply chains. … Vice President Harris cast the deciding vote on the American Rescue Plan, which made historic investments in the care economy … As Vice President, she cast the tie-breaking vote to pass the Inflation Reduction Act, the largest investment in climate action in history. This historic work is lowering household energy costs, creating hundreds of thousands of high-quality clean energy jobs, and building a thriving clean energy economy, all while ensuring America’s energy security and independence with record energy production … In the White House, Vice President Harris helped deliver the largest investment in public safety ever, investing $15 billion in supporting local law enforcement and community safety programs across 1,000 cities, towns, and counties. President Biden and Vice President Harris encouraged bipartisan cooperation to pass the first major gun safety law in nearly 30 years, which included record funding to hire and train over 14,000 mental health professionals for our schools. As head of the first-ever White House Office of Gun Violence Prevention, she spearheaded policies to expand background checks and close the gun show loophole. Under her and President Biden’s leadership, violent crime is at a 50-year low, with the largest single-year drop in murders ever … As Vice President, she supported the bipartisan border security bill, the strongest reform in decades. The legislation would have deployed more detection technology to intercept fentanyl and other drugs and added 1,500 border security agents to protect our border. After Donald Trump killed the border deal for his political gain, she and President Biden took action on their own — and now border crossings are at the lowest level in 4 years, their administration is seizing record amounts of fentanyl, and secured funding for the most significant increase in border agents in ten years … In the White House, she helped direct more than $150 billion to disrupt the flow of illicit drugs and delivered billions of dollars in investments to states to fund lifesaving programs. Under the Biden-Harris Administration, the FDA made the overdose-reversal drug naloxone available over-the-counter. This past year, the number of overdose deaths in the United States declined for the first time in five years … Vice President Harris and President Biden have delivered the most significant expansion of benefits and services for veterans exposed to burn pits, Agent Orange, and other toxic substances in more than 30 years Wow, that's new. Updated this week? I'll take the "L" for now. Odd that Ruhle asked little to nothing about her past performance in the "interview" tonight, since according to this website, she drove the vast majority of awesomeness in the prior admin. Ball is in Trump's court to work off of this, push on things like the Inflation Increase Act. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,596 Posted September 25, 2024 14 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Harris economic speeches today in Pittsburgh. No cat eating talk or discussion about giant faucets in Canada that would give California unlimited water! Did she speak with a yinzer accent? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites