Trump talk only- no Eagles talk allowed (Steelers talk is OK though)

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19 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

There’s always backlash. A few extremists take things too far (“defund the police” a perfect example) and then people react and push back the other way. But in the end we move forward anyhow. That’s been the history of this country. There has never been any aspect of woke and liberalism which hasn’t eventually succeeded. 

Not sure about. I think a lot of people are done & the milk has gone sour. Maybe walking back from the extreme lunacy can bolster their disenfranchised sheep.

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8 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

That's ONE big decision. There are a bunch of less known decisions that are a lot more nuanced than Abortion Yes/No, that the general public isn't as educated about.  They have heard of the immunity decision, but other than..."oh that means Trump can't be tried in court" is about as far as most think, but it's so much more far reaching and has no basis in the constitution or really the countries ideals.  

The striking down of Chevron. 

The removal of a statute of limitations on federal regulations. 

Absurd record on the 2nd amendment.

Voting rights.  

Sorry, I disagree vehemently about how far the Supreme Court can move the lines as they have shown time and time again since they 6-3 super majority. It's amazing how wrong all the previous courts have been and the 6 Super Justices are the only ones who really understand the Constitution and the Laws...or maybe it's they are full of sh!t. But it's going to be a lot longer than 10 years before things get back to normal.  

 

I'm sorry, I forgot the legalization of bribery...as long as you only get your payments after the law is passed, not before. 

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4 minutes ago, shadrap said:

so anyone think Biden does another debate?

doubtful.

I don't think he has a choice.  Well, wait, I do.  I think there are only 2 possible scenario's... he does another debate because he needs to give the morons of the country assurance that the last one was a one-off and that he isn't cooked mentally.  The other scenario is that he drops out.  If he can't show the base that he can do the job, then he can't win.  There's no way the Communist party can enter this election with a guaranteed loss.

Well, maybe they can.  Throw the Scumbag in Chief under the bus and take the "L" and ride off into assisted living in peace because there really isn't enough time to put a legit candidate out there.  I mean, they can put Stalin 2.0 from California out there to run with DEI as his VP, but I think that could burn both of their bridges.  I think the Commies really want to give Stalin a real shot at 8 years and throwing him into the fire less than 4 months into the election may be too risky.

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10 minutes ago, shadrap said:

so anyone think Biden does another debate?

doubtful.

If he has any intention of running and winning he has to. 

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4 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Way too many liberals I know are depressed. Snap out of it! We haven’t lost this election yet. And even if we do lose, Trump will screw things up so badly we’ll reverse it all in a couple of years. America is a liberal country, a woke country and that’s not going to change because a few idiots and backwards lookers have the upper hand for the moment. No need to be down, it will all work out. 

America is not a liberal country or a “woke” country and it was the stupid ill-conceived, unnecessary woke garbage that gave the right the upper hand in the first place. I don’t know where you live but it seems you need to get out of your bubble.

Plus we’ve got a guy that’ll be 86 if he wins again and he’s clearly already on his last leg. It ain’t good Tim, and it’s pretty much all self inflicted. Oh well, life goes on

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17 minutes ago, shadrap said:

so anyone think Biden does another debate?

doubtful.

I doubt he could do worse a second time.

He likely would benefit from another one. I think he should at least consider it. 

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35 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

America is not a liberal country or a “woke” country and it was the stupid ill-conceived, unnecessary woke garbage that gave the right the upper hand in the first place. I don’t know where you live but it seems you need to get out of your bubble.

Plus we’ve got a guy that’ll be 86 if he wins again and he’s clearly already on his last leg. It ain’t good Tim, and it’s pretty much all self inflicted. Oh well, life goes on

I don’t think the right has the upper hand. We have a perceived weak candidate in Biden that’s all. On the issues, the public sides with liberals most of the time and that includes woke issues, most of which are neither ill-conceived or unnecessary or garbage. 

[The Real timschochet 6,391]

And if it is Biden, even if the odds are against him at the moment, I still think there’s a very good chance he will win. In the end are most rational Americans really going to vote for Trump? Maybe I’m naive but I think people just have too much sense to go down that path again. 

[The Real timschochet 6,391]

Great article by Bill Scher on why Democrats needn’t be so depressed. It ain’t over: 

https://washingtonmonthly.com/2024/07/15/get-a-grip-democrats-you-can-still-win-this/

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11 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I don’t think the right has the upper hand. We have a perceived weak candidate in Biden that’s all. On the issues, the public sides with liberals most of the time and that includes woke issues, most of which are neither ill-conceived or unnecessary or garbage. 

I would agree with you on the issues except it seems the democrats have been mostly unable to capitalize on that. Maybe they did in ‘22 but it’s not happening at all this time around. Maybe it’s the candidate or just a poorly run campaign but whatever the reason, Trump is paying no political price for things like January 6, overturning Roe v Wade, promising to shank Ukraine, undermining our allies, trying to destroy NATO, etc. It’s mind boggling to me but you can’t just wish it away

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2 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

I would agree with you on the issues except it seems the democrats have been mostly unable to capitalize on that. Maybe they did in ‘22 but it’s not happening at all this time around. Maybe it’s the candidate or just a poorly run campaign but whatever the reason, Trump is paying no political price for things like January 6, overturning Roe v Wade, promising to shank Ukraine, undermining our allies, trying to destroy NATO, etc. It’s mind boggling to me but you can’t just wish it away

True per polling but the election hasn’t happened yet. At this point in 2022 the polls looked dire too. Remember the red wave everyone confidently predicted? 

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3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

True per polling but the election hasn’t happened yet. At this point in 2022 the polls looked dire too. Remember the red wave everyone confidently predicted? 

‘22 you are right. But in presidential elections the polling has been pretty good and when it is off it’s underestimated Trump’s support. So I’m not seeing much of a case for the polling being simply way off across the board but I guess that’s what we’re down to  

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1 minute ago, IGotWorms said:

‘22 you are right. But in presidential elections the polling has been pretty good and when it is off it’s underestimated Trump’s support. So I’m not seeing much of a case for the polling being simply way off across the board but I guess that’s what we’re down to  

Not sure how much I trust polling tbh

I think polling has become a little too valued. JMHO

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2 minutes ago, RLLD said:

Not sure how much I trust polling tbh

I think polling has become a little too valued. JMHO

I don’t take it as gospel but it’d have to be off by a significant number of points across the board to be truly “wrong.” It could be right and Trump wins easily. It could be a little wrong and Trump wins a moderately tight race. It would have to be way off for Biden to win at this point 

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3 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

I don’t take it as gospel but it’d have to be off by a significant number of points across the board to be truly “wrong.” It could be right and Trump wins easily. It could be a little wrong and Trump wins a moderately tight race. It would have to be way off for Biden to win at this point 

I concede that point. 

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[Mike Honcho 5,084]

Biden should announce he's not running again or outright resign.  Then Candidate/President Kamala Harris selects Obama to be her running mate.  Then get out a big bag of

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5 hours ago, shadrap said:

so anyone think Biden does another debate?

doubtful.

They have one more scheduled, in September IIRC.  He was asked about a third in his interview yesterday and said he would do the one he committed to but no more.

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13 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Biden should announce he's not running again or outright resign.  Then Candidate/President Kamala Harris selects Obama to be her running mate.  Then get out a big bag of

1. 22nd Amendment:
This amendment, ratified in 1951, states that no person shall be elected to the office of the president more than twice. Since Barack Obama was elected and served two terms as President from 2009 to 2017, he is ineligible to be elected to the presidency again.
2. 12th Amendment:
This amendment, ratified in 1804, states that no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of president shall be eligible to that of vice president of the United States. This means that to serve as Vice President, a person must meet all the qualifications required to be president.

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Another assassination attempt?  The Table definitely has it out for Donald Wick.  

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33 minutes ago, BudBro said:

1. 22nd Amendment:
This amendment, ratified in 1951, states that no person shall be elected to the office of the president more than twice. Since Barack Obama was elected and served two terms as President from 2009 to 2017, he is ineligible to be elected to the presidency again.
2. 12th Amendment:
This amendment, ratified in 1804, states that no person constitutionally ineligible to the office of president shall be eligible to that of vice president of the United States. This means that to serve as Vice President, a person must meet all the qualifications required to be president.

Understood, but there’s a question about whether constitutional eligibility to BE president and constitutional eligibility to be ELECTED president is the same.   It hasn't been argued...so let's have some fun(

[The Real timschochet 6,391]

Biden is going to call for term limits to the Supreme Court as well as a code of conduct. 

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8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Biden is going to call for term limits to the Supreme Court as well as a code of conduct. 

And send back his soup. This Fockin marshmallow needs a nap and diaper,  never mind setting policy. 

[The Real timschochet 6,391]

Biden’s SC idea is a good gamble at this point. Should energize a lot of voters. 

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1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

And send back his soup. This Fockin marshmallow needs a nap and diaper,  never mind setting policy. 

He needs 4 more years in the White House. Let’s work to see he gets it! 

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16 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Biden is going to call for term limits to the Supreme Court as well as a code of conduct. 

Many Dems want to pack SCOTUS by putting in four new justices and expanding the court from nine to thirteen, Biden was one of the sane ones that kept the kibosh on it. But it's the Republicans who are a threat to Democracy.

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3 minutes ago, Voltaire said:

Many Dems want to pack SCOTUS by putting in four new justices and expanding the court from nine to thirteen, Biden was one of the sane ones that kept the kibosh on it. But it's the Republicans who are a threat to Democracy.

Biden is not proposing packing. But term limits make sense. And a code of conduct does as well. 

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This is your President dumbassses!

 

 

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6 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

America is not a liberal country or a “woke” country and it was the stupid ill-conceived, unnecessary woke garbage that gave the right the upper hand in the first place. I don’t know where you live but it seems you need to get out of your bubble.

Plus we’ve got a guy that’ll be 86 if he wins again and he’s clearly already on his last leg. It ain’t good Tim, and it’s pretty much all self inflicted. Oh well, life goes on

No need to be down, it will all work out. 

[The Real timschochet 6,391]

Just now, TheNewGirl said:

No need to be down, it will all work out. 

Thats what I keep saying. And sooner than anyone thinks. 

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8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Biden is not proposing packing. But term limits make sense. And a code of conduct does as well. 

Would he be proposing term limits if the court consisted of 6 lib and 3 conservative justices?  If the answer is no then this is not a good idea.  It's a political one.

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Just now, Strike said:

Would he be proposing term limits if the court consisted of 6 lib and 3 conservative justices?  If the answer is no then this is not a good idea.  It's a political one.

I think it’s a good idea.

Federal judges were given lifetime appointments because then they’d be insulated from the politics of the day.

But they’d still be insulated if, say, it was a 20 year term limit. You still get your twenty years no matter what and it’ll never be more than 20 years no matter what.

Now it can’t be too short or they’d potentially still have to worry about their careers after being on the bench. But otherwise, I don’t see the problem.

Oh and “lifetime” back in 1787 was, what, 15 years maybe? Average life expectancy of 35 and first you had to get your legal training. Big difference from today where they might be on 3 or 4 decades — hell, possibly 50 years 

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6 minutes ago, Strike said:

Would he be proposing term limits if the court consisted of 6 lib and 3 conservative justices?  If the answer is no then this is not a good idea.  It's a political one.

It's always political, it's never for the good of the people. It's about power and greed, which is why he won't just retire/drop out. 

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12 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

This is your President dumbassses!

 

 

Nice catch, Joe. 

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41 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Biden is going to call for term limits to the Supreme Court as well as a code of conduct. 

Let's Go Brandon

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13 minutes ago, Strike said:

Would he be proposing term limits if the court consisted of 6 lib and 3 conservative justices?  If the answer is no then this is not a good idea.  It's a political one.

Conservatives were all in favor of it after gay marriage. 
 

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I would think the SC code of conduct would be a no brainer. Applies just as equally to the liberal justices

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3 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

I would think the SC code of conduct would be a no brainer. Applies just as equally to the liberal justices

Start with a code of conduct on himself.  He literally lied about Hunter's laptop and a gazillion other things.  F Biden.

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