June 27 Presidential debate

[IGotWorms 4,057]

3 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

If not: they're not saving Kamala for anything.  If she doesn't win this year (as veep or pres), she's done.  She won't be the candidate in 2028.

Now is probably her best chance, but I wouldn’t be surprised if she was a top candidate in ‘28. Remember Biden was shoved aside in ‘16 and did t get off to a hot start in ‘20 but then he got his shot (too late, unfortunately, because now he’s so fockin old, but that’s a different issue)

[Voltaire 5,277]

44 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

I can't tell if the second part is sarcasm or not. 

If not: they're not saving Kamala for anything.  If she doesn't win this year (as veep or pres), she's done.  She won't be the candidate in 2028.

OK reading my position correctly.

both Biden and Kamala are weak candidates. I want both to lose. Biden cannot win, Kamala has some slight chance because Trump himself has such high negatives. I prefer Biden for the layup win and for another reason: 2028.

In a 2028 Democratic primary,  the Dems will be able to field a slate of new candidates, maybe some will be talented and formidable. Well, I don't want a talented and formidable Dem to win. Kamala will be a formidable for her VP status and for identity politics reasons but is not talented. Nobody likes her. There will easily be more electable people in the 2028 field than her, just like last time she ran in 2020. So I am totally behind Kamala 2028 as the horse most likely to lose in the Democratic field.

She is unremarkable, flawed, but the DEI darling of a party obsessed with DEI. So let the Democrats run their DEI princess in 2028 and label any opposition to her as a racist and mysogynist, terms the Democrats like to throw around anyway at political opponents they don't like. "People who oppose Vice President Harris are racists and mysogynists. Vote Kamala 2028" is a phenominal club to use to primary challengers because Democrat voters are lemming idiots who'll fall for it. Plus James Clyburn seems deeply inclined to back Harris in 2028, and he could very well reprise his kingmaker role again for the Dems in that election too. 

Kamala clears teh field of anybody decent, the Dems wind up saddled with two total sh*t candidates in a row, is great for America. 

But if Kamala  runs this time, she's actually got a shot because Trump is unpopular AND it takes her out in 2028.

Joe 2024, Kamala 2028 Sonia Sotomayor heart attack 2029.  Happy day! Happy day!

[Maximum Overkill 1,871]

 

 

[RLLD 4,180]

If the Democrats do not elevate Harris, they will fracture to pieces....the DEI excrement is firmly dug into them

[Engorgeous George 2,241]

1 minute ago, RLLD said:

If the Democrats do not elevate Harris, they will fracture to pieces....the DEI excrement is firmly dug into them

What if they were to do a Scooby Doo style unmasking and find out she is none other than Rachel Dolezal?

[Mark Davis 371]

10 minutes ago, RLLD said:

If the Democrats do not elevate Harris, they will fracture to pieces....the DEI excrement is firmly dug into them

Agreed.  Clyburn has already put the marker down saying she should not be bypassed.  Identity politics requires it.  They have way better candidates than Harris but she is going to be the replacement, in the 80% likelihood that Biden drops out.

[RLLD 4,180]

1 minute ago, Mark Davis said:

Agreed.  Clyburn has already put the marker down saying she should not be bypassed.  Identity politics requires it.  They have way better candidates than Harris but she is going to be the replacement, in the 80% likelihood that Biden drops out.

Gone are the days where the best possible candidate elevates.....  

[Strike 5,344]

2 hours ago, Voltaire said:

That's where I'm at. Run Joe this year because other than a bad 90 minutes, he's totally with it. Everyone should listen to Karin Jean Pierre on this. 

The nice thing about not replacing him with Kamala in 2024, is the Dems can save Kamala for 2028. They'd not want to be racist and misogynist by replacing her.

 

If Joe loses this year they can run him in 2028. 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

2 hours ago, RLLD said:

If the Democrats do not elevate Harris, they will fracture to pieces....the DEI excrement is firmly dug into them

Dumb take.

It has to be Harris because as VP she is heir apparent.

That’s the deal.

Now if she is truly just a sh1t candidate that might be different. But the polling has her doing better than anybody against Trump. Somebody with no baggage whatsoever might be good but there won’t be time to introduce them to the national stage.

[RLLD 4,180]

5 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

Dumb take.

It has to be Harris because as VP she is heir apparent.

That’s the deal.

Now if she is truly just a sh1t candidate that might be different. But the polling has her doing better than anybody against Trump. Somebody with no baggage whatsoever might be good but there won’t be time to introduce them to the national stage.

I think it has to be Harris because to not elevate her would send the DEI elements of the party into absolute upheaval. 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

Just now, RLLD said:

I think it has to be Harris because to not elevate her would send the DEI elements of the party into absolute upheaval. 

I understand that’s your take.

I think it’s dumb.

HTH

[Voltaire 5,277]

3 hours ago, Strike said:

If Joe loses this year they can run him in 2028. 

He'd be even better.

[Engorgeous George 2,241]

1 hour ago, Voltaire said:

He'd be even better.

The older the grape the sweeter the wine.

[TimHauck 2,673]

14 hours ago, IGotWorms said:

I understand that’s your take.

I think it’s dumb.

HTH

Yup, plus several of the other rumored options could be considered “DEI hires” also (Whitmer, Buttigieg, Shapiro, etc)

[Sean Mooney 1,956]

On 7/5/2024 at 10:32 AM, RLLD said:

se. 

@Sean Mooney I used another link...without youtube 

Bout time

[Baker Boy 1,694]

On 7/2/2024 at 2:15 PM, seafoam1 said:

It's funny how conservatives were aware of creepy joe being out of his mind for years now, but liberals are just now catching on.

Could this be because liberals are really stupid?

Yes, but I prefer the word ignorant.

[Maximum Overkill 1,871]

 

[RLLD 4,180]

19 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

Bout time

Well sure, this....coupled with the other listed examples.....will continue to refute your lies.....as you seem inclined to double-down on....

[nobody 2,626]

On 6/28/2024 at 9:32 PM, nobody said:

You can trust me.  I'll work with Taiwan and help defend the nation in exchange for them immediately investing in 3nm chip manufacturing in the US and open access to any technologies we deem critical.

Trump stole my idea.  Now everyone is going to hate it.  

[jerryskids 6,666]

3 hours ago, nobody said:

Trump stole my idea.  Now everyone is going to hate it.  

Did he? It's a great quid pro quo.  Obviously the deal would apply to future, smaller nodes as they become available. 

 

[nobody 2,626]

6 minutes ago, jerryskids said:

Did he? It's a great quid pro quo.  Obviously the deal would apply to future, smaller nodes as they become available. 

 

He said that if Taiwan wants defense that they need to pay for it and that they stole all of the chip manufacturing.

So the likely implementation of that policy is they onshore some of that chip manufacturing.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,149]

On 6/30/2024 at 2:57 PM, GutterBoy said:

We all know he has a stutter, has for years.

This moron. 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,149]

On 6/15/2024 at 12:26 PM, MDC said:

I’ll watch but purely for the funnies. There is absolutely nothing you can learn from a 90-minute debate that you couldn’t learn from 10 minutes of online research. And given the candidates’ habit of chronic lying who even cares what they say.

Juuuust a bit outside…

[Hardcore troubadour 15,149]

He had a cold! 

[seafoam1 2,875]

Is creepy joe still alive? 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,149]

On 6/30/2024 at 2:57 PM, GutterBoy said:

We all know he has a stutter, has for years.

[HellToupee 1,656]

On 6/30/2024 at 2:57 PM, GutterBoy said:

We all know he has a stutter, has for years.

[Ron_Artest 1,247]

9 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Biden doesn't have a stutter?  Are you really this dumb?

[HellToupee 1,656]

21 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Biden doesn't have a stutter?  Are you really this dumb?

[Ron_Artest 1,247]

7 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Apparently you are.  Congrats.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,149]

1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

Biden doesn't have a stutter?  Are you really this dumb?

Show us some clips of his stutter prior to his dementia. Has to be some . Debates, interviews, on the floor of the senate. Come on man.

[Ron_Artest 1,247]

12 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Show us some clips of his stutter prior to his dementia. Has to be some . Debates, interviews, on the floor of the senate. Come on man.

 

 

[Hardcore troubadour 15,149]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

 

 

I said before his dementia. You fool. 

[Ron_Artest 1,247]

5 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

I said before his dementia. You fool. 

Watch the video stupid

[Hardcore troubadour 15,149]

3 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Watch the video stupid

I did. I heard, didn’t see , him mumbling his words when he was into his 70’s. Tell me the time where you think young Joe Biden was shown to stutter. That focking guy was on the Sunday morning shows every week. 

[nobody 2,626]

Gutter still buying the stutter thing?  I guess they didn't scrub google of that narrative.  

[Ron_Artest 1,247]

4 minutes ago, nobody said:

Gutter still buying the stutter thing?  I guess they didn't scrub google of that narrative.  

It's something he's talked about his whole life, something that is a fact.  But you still refuse to believe that the covid vaccine is a vaccine so you have trouble with facts.

[nobody 2,626]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

It's something he's talked about his whole life, something that is a fact.  But you still refuse to believe that the covid vaccine is a vaccine so you have trouble with facts.

People with common sense recognize the dude has dementia early on.  Gutter frantically googles counter arguments and finds the spoon fed narrative that it's not dementia, it's just a stutter.  Gutter is very proud of himself for some reason.  Good grief. 

[Ron_Artest 1,247]

1 minute ago, nobody said:

People with common sense recognize the dude has dementia early on.  Gutter frantically googles counter arguments and finds the spoon fed narrative that it's not dementia, it's just a stutter.  Gutter is very proud of himself for some reason.  Good grief. 

He clearly slowed down and is impaired these days.  He also has had a stutter his whole life.  Two things can be true.  You don't do logic well.

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17 hours ago, HellToupee said:

 

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David Muir 

Let me just ask though, why did you try to kill that bill, and successfully so, that would’ve put thousands of additional agents and officers on the border?

Donald Trump

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And a lot of towns don’t want to talk. Not going to be Aurora or Springfield. A lot of towns don’t want to talk about it because they’re so embarrassed by it. In Springfield, they’re eating the dogs, the people that came in, they’re eating the cats, they’re eating the pets of the people that live there. And this is what’s happening in our country. And it’s a shame.

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