The New York Times editorial board says Donald Trump is unfit to lead.

[squistion 1,944]

Was the NYT hacked? They finally got it right:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/07/11/opinion/editorials/donald-trump-2024-unfit.html

"We are urging American voters to listen to Trump's words, to take him seriously, and to understand that this second presidency could be even more dangerous than the last."

[cyclone24 1,912]

I’m shocked that it’s not a Biden is doing this list of things great thread. Completely shocked. It’s another anti-Trump thread. How original

[Hardcore troubadour 14,906]

His last presidency was dangerous? 

[squistion 1,944]

5 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

I’m shocked that it’s not a Biden is doing this list of things great thread. Completely shocked. It’s another anti-Trump thread. How original

You ever complain about the multiple threads about trannies? I don't recall seeing that, but if I am wrong then I stand corrected. 

 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,828]

Rubes still read the New York Times?   

They were exposed a long time ago as nothing more than a propaganda outfit for the Democrat Party.

[IGotWorms 4,057]

They’re right.

But Biden is also unfit.

So it’s sorta irrelevant at the moment.

Jesus what a sh1t show

[cyclone24 1,912]

6 minutes ago, squistion said:

You ever complain about the multiple threads about trannies? I don't recall seeing that, but if I am wrong then I stand corrected. 

 

Lol… i’m more teasing than anything.

this is just more boogeyman fear mongering the left is trying to do. Better vote for Joe because Trump is going to blow up the country if you let him back in. It’s nonsense. Country was just fine under Trump. Trump is a buffoon, but the country was just fine. 

[The Real timschochet 6,391]

We didn’t need them to tell us. Every rational person paying attention has already figured this out. Some of us have known it for a least 10 years or more. 

[The Real timschochet 6,391]

Just now, cyclone24 said:

Trump is a buffoon, but the country was just fine. 

This country will suffer greatly long term because of many of Trump’s terrible policies during his first 3 years. But yes, for that time period we survived his buffoonery. 
The problem is that during his 4th year we faced a crisis and Trump was incompetent to handle it. His incompetence cost us the lives of hundreds of thousands of people and we took a hit to the economy that we’re still recovering from. So no we couldn’t afford him. 
 

Now we have new crisis to look forward to. The most urgent one is climate change. We have a VERY limited window to deal with this problem. I’m not sure we can. But we cannot afford a buffoon as President particularly one with Trump’s anti-science, anti-expert, anti-globalist outlook. 

[cyclone24 1,912]

4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

We didn’t need them to tell us. Every rational person paying attention has already figured this out. Some of us have known it for a least 10 years or more. 

Lol… here’s the difference. It’s 4 AM and China has just launched ballistic misses into Taiwan. People have to rouse him out of bed and within five minutes has to make a rational tactical military decision on the best way to proceed to protect an ally. Do I have more faith that Trump will defend us over Joe? By 1 million.

 There’s literally no rationalization you can think we are better off safety wise with Joe who can’t put together two sentences if it’s not written down for him. But please go on about how dangerous Trump was because he tweets things.

[CaptainObvious1 322]

23 minutes ago, squistion said:

Was the NYT hacked? They finally got it right:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/07/11/opinion/editorials/donald-trump-2024-unfit.html

"We are urging American voters to listen to Trump's words, to take him seriously, and to understand that this second presidency could be even more dangerous than the last."

Meh

[cyclone24 1,912]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

This country will suffer greatly long term because of many of Trump’s terrible policies during his first 3 years. But yes, for that time period we survived his buffoonery. 
The problem is that during his 4th year we faced a crisis and Trump was incompetent to handle it. His incompetence cost us the lives of hundreds of thousands of people and we took a hit to the economy that we’re still recovering from. So no we couldn’t afford him. 
 

Now we have new crisis to look forward to. The most urgent one is climate change. We have a VERY limited window to deal with this problem. I’m not sure we can. But we cannot afford a buffoon as President particularly one with Trump’s anti-science, anti-expert, anti-globalist outlook. 

I don’t know if you’ve looked lately, but I wouldn’t exactly say Biden‘s policies are popular by any metric you want to use. Groceries gas inflation all these proxy wars we are funding. But yeah again tell me how Trump’s policies are. This house is on fire Danger. I don’t think you guys are serious people because you can’t possibly look at these things and go oh man we are so so much better off. 

[weepaws 3,150]

Great post OP,  I agree.  This country, The We The People of this Country will be the losers no matter which catholic wins the job of president.  Sad.  

[The Real timschochet 6,391]

1 minute ago, cyclone24 said:

Lol… here’s the difference. It’s 4 AM and China has just launched ballistic misses into Taiwan. People have to rouse him out of bed and within five minutes has to make a rational tactical military decision on the best way to proceed to protect an ally. Do I have more faith that Trump will defend us over Joe? By 1 million.

 There’s literally no rationalization you can think we are better off safety wise with Joe who can’t put together two sentences if it’s not written down for him. But please go on about how dangerous Trump was because he tweets things.

I will. You’re 100% wrong about this. Trump would make no military decision. He would declare that the USA has no responsibility to defend Taiwan and no authority to interfere in Chinese internal affairs. Total surrender, end of story. Trump makes Neville Chamberlain look like a firm leader. 
 

Biden would need several hours to get up to speed. In the meantime the Joint Chiefs would move the 7th fleet into the Taiwan strait and Blinken would be on the phone with Xi warning about the real possibility of nuclear war between the U.S. and China. 

[CaptainObvious1 322]

Tim thinks he knows what would happen inside the military.  JFC

[The Real timschochet 6,391]

Just now, CaptainObvious1 said:

Tim thinks he knows what would happen inside the military.  JFC

If Taiwan is attacked? Sure as hell I know. Every commander of the Joint Chiefs since 1949 has told us. Don’t be such a moron all the time. 

[MDC 7,113]

21 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

They’re right.

But Biden is also unfit.

So it’s sorta irrelevant at the moment.

Jesus what a sh1t show

This

[GutterBoy 2,898]

11 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

Lol… here’s the difference. It’s 4 AM and China has just launched ballistic misses into Taiwan. People have to rouse him out of bed and within five minutes has to make a rational tactical military decision on the best way to proceed to protect an ally. Do I have more faith that Trump will defend us over Joe? By 1 million.

 There’s literally no rationalization you can think we are better off safety wise with Joe who can’t put together two sentences if it’s not written down for him. But please go on about how dangerous Trump was because he tweets things.

Why would China nuke Taiwan?  And what would you want Trump to do that Biden can't?

These crazy scenarios are just crazy with such low probability, who cares.

What is more likely is Trump puts in 10% across the board tariffs, bans abortion and let's Russia have Ukraine and threaten Europe.

We should be concerned about real stuff man, come on.

[zsasz 361]

40 minutes ago, squistion said:

Was the NYT hacked? They finally got it right:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2024/07/11/opinion/editorials/donald-trump-2024-unfit.html

"We are urging American voters to listen to Trump's words, to take him seriously, and to understand that this second presidency could be even more dangerous than the last."

They're realizing what a majority of Americans already know.

 

[BeachGuy23 642]

17 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

Lol… here’s the difference. It’s 4 AM and China has just launched ballistic misses into Taiwan. People have to rouse him out of bed and within five minutes has to make a rational tactical military decision on the best way to proceed to protect an ally. Do I have more faith that Trump will defend us over Joe? By 1 million.

 There’s literally no rationalization you can think we are better off safety wise with Joe who can’t put together two sentences if it’s not written down for him. But please go on about how dangerous Trump was because he tweets things.

“Hey guise, what if spacemen come down and threaten to blow up the US unless Trump is named dictator?”

god you cultist are idiots…SMH

[squistion 1,944]

15 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

If Taiwan is attacked? Sure as hell I know. Every commander of the Joint Chiefs since 1949 has told us. Don’t be such a moron all the time. 

It is probably not a coincidence that he calls himself Captain Oblivious. 

[cyclone24 1,912]

17 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

“Hey guise, what if spacemen come down and threaten to blow up the US unless Trump is named dictator?”

god you cultist are idiots…SMH

Yes, because China invading Taiwan is such an off the reservation thought process. Heck why even plan for it right? It’s just boogeyman stuff.

 

[cyclone24 1,912]

24 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Why would China nuke Taiwan?  And what would you want Trump to do that Biden can't?

These crazy scenarios are just crazy with such low probability, who cares.

What is more likely is Trump puts in 10% across the board tariffs, bans abortion and let's Russia have Ukraine and threaten Europe.

We should be concerned about real stuff man, come on.

This wasn’t nearly the threat It was under Trump. And you’re really comparing the threat of tariffs to if China invades Taiwan? You understand we now are in an actual war. Not nonsensical billions upon billions of dollars to fight proxy or for a country that makes no difference if it falls or not. You guys are not realistic humans.

[cyclone24 1,912]

32 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I will. You’re 100% wrong about this. Trump would make no military decision. He would declare that the USA has no responsibility to defend Taiwan and no authority to interfere in Chinese internal affairs. Total surrender, end of story. Trump makes Neville Chamberlain look like a firm leader. 
 

Biden would need several hours to get up to speed. In the meantime the Joint Chiefs would move the 7th fleet into the Taiwan strait and Blinken would be on the phone with Xi warning about the real possibility of nuclear war between the U.S. and China. 

Yeah, I mean other than Trump is literally never said that and actually quite the opposite. 
 

My god, if there’s any doubt that Trump derangement syndrome is real look at you guys trying to justify this jar of pudding, trying to make actual decisions when you know if the roles were reversed, you guys would be losing your ever loving minds.

Like this is beyond arguing in intellectually and almost just funny where you guys are at with this stuff.

[BeachGuy23 642]

4 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

Yes, because China invading Taiwan is such an off the reservation thought process. Heck why even plan for it right? It’s just boogeyman stuff.

 

China gonna NUKE Taiwan!!!!

Freaking nitwit.

Taiwan is 100 miles from China, they’d be nuking themselves moron.

SMH

[Bert 1,128]

59 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

They’re right.

But Biden is also unfit.

So it’s sorta irrelevant at the moment.

Jesus what a sh1t show

[RLLD 4,143]

I would be hesitant to accept anything the media puts out, mostly because their propensity to lie like a politician; often in defense of a politician.

That being said, there is nothing about the New York Times, nor media in general, that suggests they have the slightest clue as to what a good leader is.

Therefore, we should each decide for ourselves what leadership traits matter to us the most, and vote accordingly.

Trump is a rather good leader, not perfect, and certainly superior to Biden.  I would welcome his leadership. 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,906]

Trump can’t ban abortion.  HTH. Gutterboy needs to watch schoolhouse rock again. 

[Fnord 2,051]

8 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

Yeah, I mean other than Trump is literally never said that and actually quite the opposite. 
 

My god, if there’s any doubt that Trump derangement syndrome is real look at you guys trying to justify this jar of pudding, trying to make actual decisions when you know if the roles were reversed, you guys would be losing your ever loving minds.

Let's do a quick recap.

Many lost their minds repeatedly during the Trump years for any number of ridiculous, unethical, illegal, unconstitutional, ignorant, and self serving things that he did. Republicans essentially laughed all of it off.

He was impeached twice, Reps did nothing other than shield him. Mueller report recommended charges of obstruction, the AG proactively shut that down while claiming innocence.

Multiple indictments follow, and he's found guilty of a felony and civilly liable for defamation and sexual assault. Republicans nominate him for the 3rd consecutive time, confident that he will PARDON HIMSELF for the rest of his alleged crimes.

His sycophants put together a plan for his next admin that essentially crowns him king of the US, and what the hell, SCOTUS gets involved by paving the way to making that a reality. Republicans claim these measures as wins.

Joe Biden has one miserable debate performance and Democrats are calling for him to step away, despite the difficulties that would create politically and logistically.

Trump Derangement Dyndrome is what the GOP is suffering from. The rest of us are just paying attention to reality. 

[IGotWorms 4,057]

2 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Trump can’t ban abortion.  HTH. Gutterboy needs to watch schoolhouse rock again. 

This is essentially false and, in fact, he basically already did in many states. You should not be so disingenuous 

[cyclone24 1,912]

17 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

China gonna NUKE Taiwan!!!!

Freaking nitwit.

Taiwan is 100 miles from China, they’d be nuking themselves moron.

SMH

Please a quote tweet where i said NUCLEAR…ill wait.

said ballistic missiles. Oh does poor buddy not understand the difference? Sadz.

[cyclone24 1,912]

2 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Let's do a quick recap.

Many lost their minds repeatedly during the Trump years for any number of ridiculous, unethical, illegal, unconstitutional, ignorant, and self serving things that he did. Republicans essentially laughed all of it off.

He was impeached twice, Reps did nothing other than shield him. Mueller report recommended charges of obstruction, the AG proactively shut that down while claiming innocence.

Multiple indictments follow, and he's found guilty of a felony and civilly liable for defamation and sexual assault. Republicans nominate him for the 3rd consecutive time, confident that he will PARDON HIMSELF for the rest of his alleged crimes.

His sycophants put together a plan for his next admin that essentially crowns him king of the US, and what the hell, SCOTUS gets involved by paving the way to making that a reality. Republicans claim these measures as wins.

Joe Biden has one miserable debate performance and Democrats are calling for him to step away, despite the difficulties that would create politically and logistically.

Trump Derangement Dyndrome is what the GOP is suffering from. The rest of us are just paying attention to reality. 

Yep. Nailed it. All of this is just because of one debate performance. This is quite possibly the dumbest post in this thread and that’s saying a lot. Good Lord.

[BeachGuy23 642]

2 minutes ago, cyclone24 said:

Please a quote tweet where i said NUCLEAR…ill wait.

said ballistic missiles. Oh does poor buddy not understand the difference? Sadz.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

What a pathetic little, stupid cultist troll you are.

Par for the course with you hillbilly morons.

[seafoam1 2,797]

The biggest cult in America calling other people cultists. It's focking unreal how the left's defense is always, "YOU ARE". Biden shows real signs of dementia. "TRUMP HAS DEMENTIA!!!" Liberals in 2020 burn down buildings and kill people. "JANUARY 6TH!!!" Biden says he was a truck driver who turned president and he saved Mandela and he went to a baptist church and has stories of corn pop and finished top of his class and his druggie kid is the smartest guy he knows and 1000's of more made up stories and it's "TRUMP IS A LIAR!!!" 

Unreal.

[RLLD 4,143]

5 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Let's do a quick recap.

Many lost their minds repeatedly during the Trump years for any number of ridiculous, unethical, illegal, unconstitutional, ignorant, and self serving things that he did. Republicans essentially laughed all of it off.

He was impeached twice, Reps did nothing other than shield him. Mueller report recommended charges of obstruction, the AG proactively shut that down while claiming innocence.

Multiple indictments follow, and he's found guilty of a felony and civilly liable for defamation and sexual assault. Republicans nominate him for the 3rd consecutive time, confident that he will PARDON HIMSELF for the rest of his alleged crimes.

His sycophants put together a plan for his next admin that essentially crowns him king of the US, and what the hell, SCOTUS gets involved by paving the way to making that a reality. Republicans claim these measures as wins.

Joe Biden has one miserable debate performance and Democrats are calling for him to step away, despite the difficulties that would create politically and logistically.

Trump Derangement Dyndrome is what the GOP is suffering from. The rest of us are just paying attention to reality. 

 

It must be rather disconcerting to have simple situations blown up into things like "threat to Democracy"....and such....

I can empathize with your frustrations.

[cyclone24 1,912]

3 minutes ago, BeachGuy23 said:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

What a pathetic little, stupid cultist troll you are.

Par for the course with you hillbilly morons.

So you couldnt. Thank you. So you lied and made it up and I are just trying a sophomoric ad hominem attack to try to cover up What a dope you are. Talk about par for the course.

Go find your toy puppy

[seafoam1 2,797]

9 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

This is essentially false and, in fact, he basically already did in many states. You should not be so disingenuous 

How did he ban abortion in states? He put the decision in the hands of the states where it should be. You do realize that not everybody in the country believes like you liberals do right?

[Bill E. 703]

1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said:

I will. You’re 100% wrong about this. Trump would make no military decision. He would declare that the USA has no responsibility to defend Taiwan and no authority to interfere in Chinese internal affairs. Total surrender, end of story. Trump makes Neville Chamberlain look like a firm leader. 
 

Biden would need several hours to get up to speed. In the meantime the Joint Chiefs would move the 7th fleet into the Taiwan strait and Blinken would be on the phone with Xi warning about the real possibility of nuclear war between the U.S. and China. 

All it will take to stop China is Biden saying "Don't.   Don't.  Don't." 

 

[Strike 5,182]

11 minutes ago, IGotWorms said:

This is essentially false and, in fact, he basically already did in many states. You should not be so disingenuous 

No he didn't.

[IGotWorms 4,057]

1 minute ago, seafoam1 said:

How did he ban abortion in states? He put the decision in the hands of the states where it should be. You do realize that not everybody in the country believes like you liberals do right?

Then you guys should take ownership of it and quit trying to pretend like Trump wasn’t directly responsible for it