So a person tried to assassinate Trump

[Sean Mooney 1,944]

There was more context to it as far as vantage points from the roof to the podium and what not and that it also tied into the conversation with local cops and what they were asked to cover (again common practice).

[Hardcore troubadour 14,954]

Securing a building by just being inside it. That’s not common practice. I guess the concept of “post guards outside” is lost on some. Some people should stick to what they know. Salem I’m at at think locking doors isn’t necessary to secure a location. 

[Gladiators 1,964]

8 hours ago, RaiderHaters Revenge said:

can you show me one position I have that is pandering to MAGA

I'm not sure you understand the requirements for being a centrist on this board.  I can help you.

1) You must strongly dislike Trump.

2) Don't argue with or call out other centrists or liberals.  Remember, your focus needs to be on your dislike for Trump and the people you suspect will vote for him.

3) Throw out the occasional CYA of "both sides do it."

It's pretty easy.

[Sean Mooney 1,944]

6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Securing a building by just being inside it. That’s not common practice. I guess the concept of “post guards outside” is lost on some. Some people should stick to what they know. Salem I’m at at think locking doors isn’t necessary to secure a location. 

You also think a rock disengages a lock on a door even when it is removed so you shouldn't be commenting, or perhaps should "stick to what you know"

And either way- I said that they made the call to have a police presence inside the building after inspecting and clearing the building based off location and everything. Did they err? Yes obviously because something happened. Was that error on the secret service end, or the local police end, or in the communication between the two organizations- that is to be determined yet.

Lastly- there were still people outside the building. Nice try

[Hardcore troubadour 14,954]

1 minute ago, Sean Mooney said:

You also think a rock disengages a lock on a door even when it is removed so you shouldn't be commenting.

And either way- I said that they made the call to have a police presence inside the building after inspecting and clearing the building based off location and everything. Did they err? Yes obviously because something happened. Was that error on the secret service end, or the local police end, or in the communication between the two organizations- that is to be determined yet

No.  It’s determined. SS is responsible for the security. End of story.  The buck stops there.  And they are lying. 

[Sean Mooney 1,944]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

No.  It’s determined. SS is responsible for the security. End of story.  The buck stops there.  And they are lying. 

We will see what the investigation brings as more of this unfolds.

SS does do security but will also work with local officials and there was a breakdown there in this instance. 

[Reality 3,104]

7 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

No.  It’s determined. SS is responsible for the security. End of story.  The buck stops there.  And they are lying. 

Right, there's really no scenario in which this Director can keep her job. A massive failure on every level.

[TimHauck 2,626]

22 hours ago, nobody said:

The righties: the left's rhetoric is causing people to want to murder trump.

The lefties: the guy was a republican, therefore it is not rhetoric that caused him to want to murder trump.  And the right uses rhetoric too.

Also righties: But the right’s rhetoric is slightly less bad!

I’m not a lefty, but yes your second paragraph could be accurate if it is proven he was actually a Republican.  If he was so gullible as to fall for anti-Trump rhetoric from the MSM, then IMO he would most likely fall in line with the MSM and vote Dem.  Hating Trump but otherwise voting Republican isn’t a terribly common stance, so the most likely scenario would be that he formed those opinions on his own and wasn’t really influenced by rhetoric from the MSM.

I think RealTim may be saying something similar but I am consistent in believing that rhetoric from the MSM and the politicians themselves isn’t really what’s contributing to attacks that have happened on either side.  I do think “rhetoric” from places like social media could have played a role in this as well as other past incidents, but IMO the MSM and politicians “lowering the temperature” isn’t really going to “lower the temperature” of the crazy sh1t people say on social media.

Speaking of, I’m still shocked they haven’t discovered any of Crooks’ social media.

@nobody, are you going to apologize for lying by saying I thought the Trump yard signs were his?

[Hardcore troubadour 14,954]

So the SS discovered a plot by Iran to kill Trump? Ok. What is being done about that? 

[TBayXXXVII 2,485]

8 hours ago, TimHauck said:

To confirm, you didn’t have a problem with Biden’s “bullseye” comment, correct?

Why should he, I don't recall @Herbivore having an issue with it.  Weird that he did when Palin said it.  I mean, I'm guessing he did because he apparently remembers it very clearly.  I wonder why I don't recall any outrage from him when Biden made his comment?  

WAIT, I got it.  It's because Palin said "crosshairs", not "bullseye".  What was I thinking.  My bad. 

[TimHauck 2,626]

6 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Why should he, I don't recall @Herbivore having an issue with it.  Weird that he did when Palin said it.  I mean, I'm guessing he did because he apparently remembers it very clearly.  I wonder why I don't recall any outrage from him when Biden made his comment?  

WAIT, I got it.  It's because Palin said "crosshairs", not "bullseye".  What was I thinking.  My bad. 

I can’t speak for @Herbivore, but I didn’t have a problem with it.

But anyone complaining about Biden saying “bullseye” should have also complained about Palin.

I would agree that Biden bringing that up and saying it was different was dumb.

[Herbivore 1,115]

3 minutes ago, TBayXXXVII said:

Why should he, I don't recall @Herbivore having an issue with it.  Weird that he did when Palin said it.  I mean, I'm guessing he did because he apparently remembers it very clearly.  I wonder why I don't recall any outrage from him when Biden made his comment?  

WAIT, I got it.  It's because Palin said "crosshairs", not "bullseye".  What was I thinking.  My bad. 

I rarely have outrage, but I don't think politicians should use that kind of language ever. Its irresponsible. It was easy for me to remember when Gabby was shot and why. It was also very easy to bring up when our Geek righties cried about rhetoric. I suspect you buried previous R rhetoric and are now outraged about D rhetoric. So, yes, your bad.

[Engorgeous George 2,149]

2 hours ago, avoiding injuries said:

No offense, but your dr friend has no clue about the wound. 

No offense taken, but he has some clue, he knows what ears are, what they are made of, cartiledge, skin and blood vessels, and he saw pictures of the wound.  Clearly he did not examine the wound, but still, he has some idea.  I imagine he might argue he has a very good idea, better certainly than those who diagnose Biden based on his walk and speech and I am staisfied those diagnosis are more or less sound.

[Mike Honcho 5,107]

1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

Trump is allowed to lie and people shouldn't call him on it. This is what happens when you rip at institutions. 

To me it's insane just how easily he gets away with it over obvious and easily able to be checked information. It's the George from Seinfeld on steroids, "It's not a lie, if you believe it"...except he just repeats it so much his followers believe it. 

Let's have a discussion later on how much China is PAYING us on import tariffs.    

[The Real timschochet 6,446]

More evidence about who the alpha is: Biden called the widow of the firefighter who died a few hours after it happened. Trump still hasn’t called her. 

[Engorgeous George 2,149]

1 hour ago, Reality said:

Dude almost died and is only alive because he just happened to move his head at the right time, who knows, maybe by the grace of God. 

Here, we have people actually complaining about the bandage he's wearing. Some of you really need some self reflection, or, maybe you're simply just straight up garbage human beings. I'm not sure but, this ain't it. This ain't it fellas.

Take a step back, forget about your politics for a second, try to be a human being.

I never said he was not in mortal danger.  

I do not believe in God.

I was not complaining, I was merely noting and encouraging him to not ruin his momentum by overselling.  Sadly, the real estated guy cannot help Puffing, he cannot help overselling, it is at his core who he is.

If we ever meet you are most welcome to remind me, to my face, that you have posited I am human garbage.

[nobody 2,567]

31 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Also righties: But the right’s rhetoric is slightly less bad!

I’m not a lefty, but yes your second paragraph could be accurate if it is proven he was actually a Republican.  If he was so gullible as to fall for anti-Trump rhetoric from the MSM, then IMO he would most likely fall in line with the MSM and vote Dem.  Hating Trump but otherwise voting Republican isn’t a terribly common stance, so the most likely scenario would be that he formed those opinions on his own and wasn’t really influenced by rhetoric from the MSM.

I think RealTim may be saying something similar but I am consistent in believing that rhetoric from the MSM and the politicians themselves isn’t really what’s contributing to attacks that have happened on either side.  I do think “rhetoric” from places like social media could have played a role in this as well as other past incidents, but IMO the MSM and politicians “lowering the temperature” isn’t really going to “lower the temperature” of the crazy sh1t people say on social media.

Speaking of, I’m still shocked they haven’t discovered any of Crooks’ social media.

@nobody, are you going to apologize for lying by saying I thought the Trump yard signs were his?

You need attention this bad?  I said potentially, you baby.

[TimHauck 2,626]

2 minutes ago, nobody said:

You need attention this bad?  I said potentially, you baby.

Please never accuse me of taking someone’s quotes out of context, hypocrite

[TimHauck 2,626]

11 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

I rarely have outrage, but I don't think politicians should use that kind of language ever. Its irresponsible. It was easy for me to remember when Gabby was shot and why. 

Why was she shot?

[Reality 3,104]

6 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

I never said he was not in mortal danger.  

I do not believe in God.

I was not complaining, I was merely noting and encouraging him to not ruin his momentum by overselling.  Sadly, the real estated guy cannot help Puffing, he cannot help overselling, it is at his core who he is.

If we ever meet you are most welcome to remind me, to my face, that you have posited I am human garbage.

No problem, will do.

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

9 hours ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

This from the guy that wore two masks like Fauci told him to. 

Seriously, what is wrong with you?  Take a break from being a ass, you'll feel better.

I only wore a mask when I was made to and it was only ever one mask.  I hated wearing them.

I never even got the vaccine.  I share similar views as you on the whole COVID debacle, so knock it off.

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

7 hours ago, Gepetto said:

Oh, so do you have experience of someone attempting to kill you by putting a bullet in your head but it just grazed you?

Are you going to keep moving the goal posts?  I said the experience was a big deal and would be traumatic.  A small wound to the outer ear is very minor, regardless if it's from a bullet or anything else.

[TimHauck 2,626]

2 hours ago, Reality said:

Dude almost died and is only alive because he just happened to move his head at the right time, who knows, maybe by the grace of God. 

Here, we have people actually complaining about the bandage he's wearing. Some of you really need some self reflection, or, maybe you're simply just straight up garbage human beings. I'm not sure but, this ain't it. This ain't it fellas.

Take a step back, forget about your politics for a second, try to be a human being.

Seems like you haven’t forgotten

23 hours ago, Reality said:

Biden couldn't wait a full day. 

 

On 7/15/2024 at 4:54 PM, Reality said:

Democrats pretty much bragged about registering Republican to vote for somebody other than Trump in the primaries. Haley had massive support from Democrats in the primaries, hilarious, considering they would have never voted for her in the general. But, whatever...

https://www.newsweek.com/democrats-crossover-voting-gop-primary-republicans-trump-1850387

Making some sweeping judgement based on political registration is absurd. Most non-retards know this. Dude tried to murder Trump, that's what we know.

I am not surprised this happened considering the vitriol that has come from the left for the last 3 years. The left, from top to bottom, has declared Trump a threat to democracy, which is disgusting and absurd. What did they think would end up happening? 

 

On 7/15/2024 at 1:02 PM, Reality said:

Moving forward, this is how you deal with the clowns on the left masquerading as journalists. 

https://x.com/libsoftiktok/status/1812939622806061141?s=19

 

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

7 hours ago, Gepetto said:

Now do Nancy Kerrigan. She cried like a baby and was overly dramatic?

This is a terrible comparison.

[Engorgeous George 2,149]

Just now, Hawkeye21 said:

This is a terrible comparison.

Kerrigan had much better legs.

[RaiderHaters Revenge 4,242]

1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

I've done this already multiple times on this board. 

Stop playing dumb

No you just come to every thread and yell centrist. Again have some views that lean left and some that lean right. You really can’t comprehend that can you

[GutterBoy 2,898]

22 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

More evidence about who the alpha is: Biden called the widow of the firefighter who died a few hours after it happened. Trump still hasn’t called her. 

Watching magas call Trump an Alpha is sad, but not as sad as people countering that by calling Biden an Alpha.

[Engorgeous George 2,149]

3 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Watching magas call Trump an Alpha is sad, but not as sad as people countering that by calling Biden an Alpha.

Maybe Tim was joking, though historically he is not very funny, or maybe Biden has a particulalry manly and forceful method for dialing a phone,  Who knows?

[The Real timschochet 6,446]

2 minutes ago, GutterBoy said:

Watching magas call Trump an Alpha is sad, but not as sad as people countering that by calling Biden an Alpha.

I have a different definition than most. To me  part of being an alpha means being classy. 

[GutterBoy 2,898]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

I have a different definition than most. To me  part of being an alpha means being classy. 

I just think that men talking about other men as alphas or betas or G's or Big D1cks or soy boys or High T or cucks is just sad.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,954]

29 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

More evidence about who the alpha is: Biden called the widow of the firefighter who died a few hours after it happened. Trump still hasn’t called her. 

Lie

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

11 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said:

Kerrigan had much better legs.

That's true

[shadrap 222]

34 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

More evidence about who the alpha is: Biden called the widow of the firefighter who died a few hours after it happened. Trump still hasn’t called her. 

he's going to funeral.

[Hardcore troubadour 14,954]

1 hour ago, Reality said:

Right, there's really no scenario in which this Director can keep her job. A massive failure on every level.

You can see what’s going on here, like it always does. The massive failure by a DEI appointee whose main concern was more DEI hiring, being defended by the leftist media with their attempts to place blame on the local cops and the useful idiots are carrying the message.  It’s clear as day.  

[Herbivore 1,115]

30 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Why was she shot?

in short..loughner was a libertarian, 2a advocate, compared Gabby to Hitler and Hillary, but overall mentally unstable. He killed 6 people that day. Palin ran ads with crosshairs on them, kept saying things like put a bulls eye on em. Were those motivators or was he just nuts? 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/sarah-palins-crosshairs-ad-focus-gabrielle-giffords-debate/story%3fid=12576437

[TimHauck 2,626]

2 minutes ago, Herbivore said:

in short..loughner was a libertarian, 2a advocate, compared Gabby to Hitler and Hillary, but overall mentally unstable. He killed 6 people that day. Palin ran ads with crosshairs on them, kept saying things like put a bulls eye on em. Were those motivators or was he just nuts? 

https://www.google.com/amp/s/abcnews.go.com/amp/Politics/sarah-palins-crosshairs-ad-focus-gabrielle-giffords-debate/story%3fid=12576437

Sounds more like he was just nuts.  Like Crooks.

[Dizkneelande 1,085]

21 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

Lie

It’s all they have 

[TimHauck 2,626]

It’s kinda sad that “standard issue school shooter” is a thing.

 

[Hardcore troubadour 14,954]

2 minutes ago, Dizkneelande said:

It’s all they have 

Real Tim just says stuff. Even he stopped posting in his thread for “serious” discussion. 

[Hawkeye21 2,382]

4 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

Sounds more like he was just nuts.  Like Crooks.

Those types of things can motivate the nutjobs though.  That's why it's important they are more careful with what they say.  Far too many people are mentally unstable and will take ads like that as marching orders.  It's why people blame Trump for the Capitol riot.