GutterBoy 2,898 Posted July 19, 2024 Just now, The Real timschochet said: Strongly disagree. I expected a very good speech (see my post in the other thread) that would help Trump sew things up. This was terrible. I suspect it reminded millions of Americans why this guy is completely unfit to be President. If Biden quits this will give Kamala an advantage. Even if Biden somehow doesn’t quit this speech gives Joe a fighting chance. It did a LOT of harm. Come on be serious. Yes it was a terrible speech, they're all terrible speeches. No one cares about his terrible speeches. It's all about Biden being brain dead at this point. Trump could have focked a hooker and beheaded her on stage last night and people will only talk about Biden's senility. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,825 Posted July 19, 2024 Biden has no chance 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,430 Posted July 19, 2024 1 minute ago, GutterBoy said: Come on be serious. Yes it was a terrible speech, they're all terrible speeches. No one cares about his terrible speeches. It's all about Biden being brain dead at this point. Trump could have focked a hooker and beheaded her on stage last night and people will only talk about Biden's senility. I respectfully disagree with you . I think it’s true that Biden needs to quit and is at a major disadvantage if he stays in. But in the event (unlikely now IMO) that he stays in I still think he would have a fighting chance due to this speech by Trump. Say a 35% chance (versus a 10% chance before the speech.) 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,137 Posted July 19, 2024 The Democrats have a Kamala, the Republicans, they have a Hulk. we have a hulk - Search Images (bing.com) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted July 19, 2024 7 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I respectfully disagree with you . I think it’s true that Biden needs to quit and is at a major disadvantage if he stays in. But in the event (unlikely now IMO) that he stays in I still think he would have a fighting chance due to this speech by Trump. Say a 35% chance (versus a 10% chance before the speech.) How many people actually stayed awake to watch this thing? Went past midnight east coast. His previous rambling speeches didn't move the needle either. How is the press covering this? Trump talks about assassination attempt, Trump spreads message of unity, Trump surrounded by family says wants to be president for everyone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BirdGang 385 Posted July 19, 2024 39 minutes ago, GutterBoy said: Come on be serious. Yes it was a terrible speech, they're all terrible speeches. No one cares about his terrible speeches. It's all about Biden being brain dead at this point. Trump could have focked a hooker and beheaded her on stage last night and people will only talk about Biden's senility. Tim is just trolling, he’s desperate at this point with his failed party. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,430 Posted July 19, 2024 1 minute ago, BirdGang said: Tim is just trolling, he’s desperate at this point with his failed party. Dont know why you would think this. I’ve tried to offer serious analysis. And no I’m not desperate at all because I’m pretty confident that within a few days Kamala will be the candidate and if and when that happens she will be the favorite to win. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,588 Posted July 19, 2024 20 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I’ve tried to offer serious analysis. what a blowhard 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,430 Posted July 19, 2024 1 minute ago, HellToupee said: what a blowhard Yeah I’m sorry that I don’t spend my time posting memes that my candidate is god and a superhero. I just lack your high level of analysis. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted July 19, 2024 23 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Dont know why you would think this. I’ve tried to offer serious analysis. And no I’m not desperate at all because I’m pretty confident that within a few days Kamala will be the candidate and if and when that happens she will be the favorite to win. I think Harris will be the candidate as well, and a better one than Biden in terms of competing with Trump. But in the end I think people have had enough of bad policy, and Harris is just a subpar candidate. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,705 Posted July 19, 2024 59 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I respectfully disagree with you . I think it’s true that Biden needs to quit and is at a major disadvantage if he stays in. But in the event (unlikely now IMO) that he stays in I still think he would have a fighting chance due to this speech by Trump. Say a 35% chance (versus a 10% chance before the speech.) God Bless Father Trump for preaching unity and his eternal optimism. Unfortunately, his message will always fall flat to those indoctrinated by MSM propaganda, bias and hate. He is just going to come to grips with the fact you have to walk around or step over these hopeless cases like a turd on a California sidewalk in order to move ahead to find a strong enough fire hose to wash it into the sewer. Real Americans love his message of peace, unity, strength and prosperity. 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,430 Posted July 19, 2024 1 minute ago, RLLD said: I think Harris will be the candidate as well, and a better one than Biden in terms of competing with Trump. But in the end I think people have had enough of bad policy, and Harris is just a subpar candidate. The problem with your assumption is that, per consistent polling, the public largely agrees with Harris’ policy positions far more than they do with Trump on the vast majority of issues. 1 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,430 Posted July 19, 2024 2 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: God Bless Father Trump for preaching unity and his eternal optimism. Unfortunately, his message will always fall flat to those indoctrinated by MSM propaganda, bias and hate. He is just going to come to grips with the fact you have to walk around or step over these hopeless cases like a turd on a California sidewalk in order to move ahead to find a strong enough fire hose to wash it into the sewer. Real Americans love his message of peace, unity, strength and prosperity. Well done! Comrade Squealer from Animal Farm could hardly improve on your effort here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,825 Posted July 19, 2024 31 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Dont know why you would think this. I’ve tried to offer serious analysis. And no I’m not desperate at all because I’m pretty confident that within a few days Kamala will be the candidate and if and when that happens she will be the favorite to win. Far cry from what you used to spout. I remember you so sure of a Biden win over Trump in 2024. You said it was a done deal. Basically guaranteed it. You were so wrong. Lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,825 Posted July 19, 2024 6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: The problem with your assumption is that, per consistent polling, the public largely agrees with Harris’ policy positions far more than they do with Trump on the vast majority of issues. If it is Kamala do you expect her to win no doubt? I want this in writing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
GutterBoy 2,898 Posted July 19, 2024 9 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: The problem with your assumption is that, per consistent polling, the public largely agrees with Harris’ policy positions far more than they do with Trump on the vast majority of issues. The majority also feels that Trump is unfit for office. Problem has been so is Biden. Harris will fair better here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,143 Posted July 19, 2024 13 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: The problem with your assumption is that, per consistent polling, the public largely agrees with Harris’ policy positions far more than they do with Trump on the vast majority of issues. I think there are a range of polls, and I think we could each find some that suggest a given candidate is considered better or more popular, but I also think that Biden has fomented enough problems for many Americans that it remains a problem for the Party and by extension Harris as well. This coupled with her apparent inability to be of much value in any other way creates some challenges for her. The question is whether or not the irrelevant stuff (gender, skin color) would be enough to sway those independent voters. I think she could make some hay on abortion if she leaned into that..... Keep in mind there is a stark difference in how well people feel between the Trump and Biden terms.....and people remember their lives being much better under Trump. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,705 Posted July 19, 2024 3 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: If it is Kamala do you expect her to win no doubt? I want this in writing. She has an uphill battle. Let’s assume she wants 81 million votes like Biden allegedly received. Safe to assume 30% of those voters were heterosexual males. We have 108 days until Election Day. Using her alleged historical method of swaying members of this demographic she will have to average 9,375 hummers an hour. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
cyclone24 1,912 Posted July 19, 2024 2 hours ago, avoiding injuries said: Democrats watched to criticize. Independents wouldn’t be swayed either way by this speech. Their minds were made up after the debate and assas$ination attempt. This was just a formality and did no harm. Well, I vote for Republican. I just didn’t think it was great. But no it probably didn’t make much difference at all. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 14,943 Posted July 19, 2024 A picture is worth a thousand words. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,740 Posted July 19, 2024 Trump nailed it, WINNER Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,430 Posted July 19, 2024 20 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: Far cry from what you used to spout. I remember you so sure of a Biden win over Trump in 2024. You said it was a done deal. Basically guaranteed it. You were so wrong. Lol I think you’re making stuff up. I wanted Biden to win, predicted he would many times. But I don’t think I ever wrote anything like “done deal”. Always assumed it would be close. But in the end I believe in the basic goodness of the American people. That part is true. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,430 Posted July 19, 2024 21 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: If it is Kamala do you expect her to win no doubt? I want this in writing. Of course I have doubts. It will be a close election. But if Kamala is the candidate I predict she will win. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
listen2me 23 1,825 Posted July 19, 2024 45 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I think you’re making stuff up. I wanted Biden to win, predicted he would many times. But I don’t think I ever wrote anything like “done deal”. Always assumed it would be close. But in the end I believe in the basic goodness of the American people. That part is true. Im definitely not. You used to try to rub in peoples face and say and Biden will win again and you guys will just have to deal with it. Done deal may have not been thr wording. But you were very sure with your chest out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JuneJuly 193 Posted July 19, 2024 48 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Of course I have doubts. It will be a close election. But if Kamala is the candidate I predict she will win. You should bet a bunch of people. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 2,913 Posted July 19, 2024 How many people watched all 90 minutes of that speech. Be honest, I’m going with O/U 2.5 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,137 Posted July 19, 2024 1 hour ago, Tree of Knowledge said: She has an uphill battle. Let’s assume she wants 81 million votes like Biden allegedly received. Safe to assume 30% of those voters were heterosexual males. We have 108 days until Election Day. Using her alleged historical method of swaying members of this demographic she will have to average 9,375 hummers an hour. That would blow away Erin Brockovich's record. Erin Brockovich "634 blowjobs in five days" (youtube.com) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,430 Posted July 19, 2024 20 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said: Im definitely not. You used to try to rub in peoples face and say and Biden will win again and you guys will just have to deal with it. Done deal may have not been thr wording. But you were very sure with your chest out. I’m an optimist and I love this country: 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,204 Posted July 19, 2024 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: The problem with your assumption is that, per consistent polling, the public largely agrees with Harris’ policy positions far more than they do with Trump on the vast majority of issues. Yeah, just like when you said Biden was winning based on ONE poll. Then I posted a link to 538 with like 20 polls showing Trump winning and you said that was just because "538 was BEHIND" and they would eventually catch up. But apparently they never have and Biden is about to drop out. It's amazing how often your "serious analysis" is 100% WRONG. And your lack of self awareness about that fact is pathetic. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,588 Posted July 19, 2024 I love some of these hayseeds whistling past the graveyard with kamala. They know the deal with her and would bypass over here if the optics weren’t so bad Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,430 Posted July 19, 2024 14 minutes ago, Strike said: Yeah, just like when you said Biden was winning based on ONE poll. Then I posted a link to 538 with like 20 polls showing Trump winning and you said that was just because "538 was BEHIND" and they would eventually catch up. But apparently they never have and Biden is about to drop out. It's amazing how often your "serious analysis" is 100% WRONG. And your lack of self awareness about that fact is pathetic. How could I be unaware of that 538 link? You’ve only brought it up a zillion times. You remind me of my grandpa. Or Joe Biden. Telling the same story over and over again. Everybody’s heard it by now several times but we nod and humor you. You know what I’m right about? That Trump was a terrible President and will be even worse this time around. That whether he wins or not it’s a disgrace for anyone to vote for him and that you’ll always have to live with that disgrace, while I won’t. I’ll always be right about that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,588 Posted July 19, 2024 22 minutes ago, Strike said: Yeah, just like when you said Biden was winning based on ONE poll. Then I posted a link to 538 with like 20 polls showing Trump winning and you said that was just because "538 was BEHIND" and they would eventually catch up. But apparently they never have and Biden is about to drop out. It's amazing how often your "serious analysis" is 100% WRONG. And your lack of self awareness about that fact is pathetic. He’s everyone’s know-it-all blowhard uncle at thanksgiving nice guy and all Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,688 Posted July 19, 2024 https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trump-did-something-hes-never-done-before-rnc-speech-now-election-may-already-over I may be a Democrat, but I'm also a clear-eyed political analyst. Donald Trump clearly rose to the occasion with his RNC speech Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Strike 5,204 Posted July 19, 2024 5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: How could I be unaware of that 538 link? You’ve only brought it up a zillion times. You remind me of my grandpa. Or Joe Biden. Telling the same story over and over again. Everybody’s heard it by now several times but we nod and humor you. You know what I’m right about? That Trump was a terrible President and will be even worse this time around. That whether he wins or not it’s a disgrace for anyone to vote for him and that you’ll always have to live with that disgrace, while I won’t. I’ll always be right about that. Except he wasn't. So you're wrong again. You may disagree with his policies, but as far as doing the job he was 100 times better than this Bernie we currently have in the WH, and there is no way Kameltoe is up to the job. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,430 Posted July 19, 2024 Just now, Baker Boy said: https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trump-did-something-hes-never-done-before-rnc-speech-now-election-may-already-over I may be a Democrat, but I'm also a clear-eyed political analyst. Donald Trump clearly rose to the occasion with his RNC speech lol Doug Schoen hasn’t been a Democrat for years. Amd so dishonest. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrahmaBulls 628 Posted July 19, 2024 24 minutes ago, Strike said: Yeah, just like when you said Biden was winning based on ONE poll. Then I posted a link to 538 with like 20 polls showing Trump winning and you said that was just because "538 was BEHIND" and they would eventually catch up. But apparently they never have and Biden is about to drop out. It's amazing how often your "serious analysis" is 100% WRONG. And your lack of self awareness about that fact is pathetic. There's 15 years of history of Tim doing this kind of stuff. He' desperately wants to be ahead of the curve with his nonsense predictions and most of the time is the last one to come aboard. It was just a week ago how he was telling us how fit Biden still is and there aren't any mental issues. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,430 Posted July 19, 2024 1 minute ago, BrahmaBulls said: There's 15 years of history of Tim doing this kind of stuff. He' desperately wants to be ahead of the curve with his nonsense predictions and most of the time is the last one to come aboard. It was just a week ago how he was telling us how fit Biden still is and there aren't any mental issues. Actually it was before the debate. So about a month ago. I appreciate the fact that you’re been reading me for 15 years. Quite flattering. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
IGotWorms 4,057 Posted July 19, 2024 1 minute ago, Baker Boy said: https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/trump-did-something-hes-never-done-before-rnc-speech-now-election-may-already-over I may be a Democrat, but I'm also a clear-eyed political analyst. Donald Trump clearly rose to the occasion with his RNC speech That’s just false. Tim saying it was worse than Biden’s debate performance is ridiculous. It was nowhere near that bad and ultimately won’t be damaging. But it wasn’t good either. Started off okay although typically way over the top. But then he veered into grievances and super dark visions that probably really turned off anyone but super hardcore MAGA types. If he’d actually delivered a decent message on unity that might’ve been impactful. But he cannot help himself Share this post Link to post Share on other sites