Shooter McGavin 618 Posted September 11, 2024 I still can't believe he said immigrants are eating cats and dogs. That's the clip. Grandpa lost it. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 369 Posted September 11, 2024 Just now, Mark Davis said: This is how he won 8 years ago. That doesn't mean he will win this year. I think Harris has done pretty well tonight, with the exception of her facial expressions and poses. But the moderators only fact checking one side is obvious to anyone watching. You can believe it is because only he lies if you want, but to anyone who is truly moveable, it begs the question of why they are doing it. Whether or not Trump or others discuss it is irrelevant because it's how that small sliver of people see it. Things like that helped him in 2016 so these things do matter. He was an unknown and 8 years younger. He has too much of a book on him and he doesn't have quite the charm or chops he did back then to sidestep the (alleged) bias and throw it back. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Patented Phil 1,469 Posted September 11, 2024 4 minutes ago, jerryskids said: She's winning. Totally dominating the discussion. She has been on the offensive, Trump on the defensive. If he doesn't move to the offensive soon, it's not good for him. Agree. He did very well at the beginning, and they were going into the border topic which he should have killed. Kameltoe baited him by knocking his rallies and he went into full tilt and he hasn’t been right since. It was the turning point of the debate. Well planned and well executed by Team Kameltoe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mmmmm...beer 807 Posted September 11, 2024 1 minute ago, jerryskids said: They've fact checked him multiple times. Her zero. Fine people? Right... they haven't once said anything about some of her silliness. He's going to do away with the constitution... wtf are you talking about? They are letting all her go... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,776 Posted September 11, 2024 No schtick debate halftime review Kamala has done well and has told whoppers without pushback from the mods but shoots herself in the foot with her reactions when Donald is talking Donald has taken the bait with her lies. He needs to regroup and focus. no one’s mind has been changed 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,764 Posted September 11, 2024 Really appreciate the honesty of several people here like @Patented Phil and @jerryskids who really want Trump to win but can see what’s happening. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 369 Posted September 11, 2024 Why can't he look at her? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,764 Posted September 11, 2024 Just now, HellToupee said: No schtick debate halftime review Kamala has done well and has told whoppers without pushback from the mods but shoots herself in the foot with her reactions when Donald is talking Donald has taken the bait with her lies. He needs to regroup and focus. no one’s mind has been changed Appreciate this too but as far as your last sentence- how would you know? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted September 11, 2024 Just now, HellToupee said: No schtick debate halftime review Kamala has done well and has told whoppers without pushback from the mods but shoots herself in the foot with her reactions when Donald is talking Donald has taken the bait with her lies. He needs to regroup and focus. no one’s mind has been changed I tend to agree with this. These moron undecideds picking this I’m like 8 counties in a few states is absurd. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,799 Posted September 11, 2024 1 minute ago, thegeneral said: They asked her about fracking and flip flopping. Yeah, she said she was clear in the 2020 debates about supporting fracking. That's an abject lie. She said in that debate that Joe Biden was clear about supporting fracking. I'm a rube on the internet and I know that; they can't fact check her on this? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 369 Posted September 11, 2024 This Biden rant isn't good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,458 Posted September 11, 2024 7 minutes ago, jerryskids said: She's winning. Totally dominating the discussion. She has been on the offensive, Trump on the defensive. If he doesn't move to the offensive soon, it's not good for him. 6 minutes ago, jerryskids said: We can argue how much the moderators are helping her, but she hasn't imploded. The bar is low for her performance -- basically, be better than Dementia Joe. Yep. He lost his cool way back on abortion and never recovered. He doesn't do good when he screaming. People should be ashamed bout the moderators, but, it doesn't matter we knew they were going to do this. Horseman always tells the truth. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,776 Posted September 11, 2024 1 minute ago, thegeneral said: I tend to agree with this. These moron undecideds picking this I’m like 8 counties in a few states is absurd. It’s like watching a monkey fock a football 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted September 11, 2024 Just now, jerryskids said: Yeah, she said she was clear in the 2020 debates about supporting fracking. That's an abject lie. She said in that debate that Joe Biden was clear about supporting fracking. I'm a rube on the internet and I know that; they can't fact check her on this? If they fact check every statement this would never get past the first question. You want to put who “lied” more up in this debate? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
porkbutt 893 Posted September 11, 2024 4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I am heavily biased and I admit it. But IMO she has slapped him around tonight, baited him and destroyed him. He’s fallen into every trap. He looks old and tired, she looks young and energetic. He looks weak, she looks strong. I think she won tonight and won the election tonight. I could be totally wrong; I often am. But that is my firm honest view. god youre gay Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,776 Posted September 11, 2024 Excellent answer on Ukraine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted September 11, 2024 Negotiate the Ukraine war! What a great idea! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 369 Posted September 11, 2024 Not backing independence for Ukraine is a lame answer. He should have said "of course I want Ukraine to win.....but we need to distance ourselves from this one". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,025 Posted September 11, 2024 She's giggling about the war in Europe. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,025 Posted September 11, 2024 1 minute ago, HellToupee said: Excellent answer on Ukraine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,764 Posted September 11, 2024 2 minutes ago, jerryskids said: Yeah, she said she was clear in the 2020 debates about supporting fracking. That's an abject lie. She said in that debate that Joe Biden was clear about supporting fracking. I'm a rube on the internet and I know that; they can't fact check her on this? Actually it is true. The only 2020 debate she was in was against Mike Pence. She supported fracking. You’re referring to her positions as a Presidential candidate in 2019. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted September 11, 2024 If we are talking body language @Mark Davis Trump looks like a dog who got caught peeing on the carpet Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 398 Posted September 11, 2024 Just now, zsasz said: Not backing independence for Ukraine is a lame answer. He should have said "of course I want Ukraine to win.....but we need to distance ourselves from this one". The right answer is the war isn't winnable for Ukraine. A negotiated settlement is all that there can be. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,776 Posted September 11, 2024 1 minute ago, porkbutt said: god youre gay He’s been sissified but I don’t think he goes that way 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted September 11, 2024 Simple question, why didn't Putin attack Ukraine when Trump was in office? It's that simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted September 11, 2024 She is destroying him on Ukraine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,281 Posted September 11, 2024 Eat you for lunch. Wow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,764 Posted September 11, 2024 2 minutes ago, porkbutt said: god youre gay Thanks man. Im really not but I appreciate the compliment. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted September 11, 2024 Russia has nukes! Who knew! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted September 11, 2024 Damn, Trump just destroyed her on Ukraine. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
seafoam1 3,025 Posted September 11, 2024 Weak and stupid. Great answer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 398 Posted September 11, 2024 2 minutes ago, thegeneral said: If we are talking body language @Mark Davis Trump looks like a dog who got caught peeing on the carpet His tone hasn't been good but her smiling like the joker and trying to model The Thinker with her hand on her chin wasn't a great look either. Now when it comes to tone and volume, I'll agree with you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,859 Posted September 11, 2024 Checkmate on her Emissary role. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,458 Posted September 11, 2024 Firing back strong about Putin though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted September 11, 2024 2 minutes ago, Mark Davis said: The right answer is the war isn't winnable for Ukraine. A negotiated settlement is all that there can be. Yeah what are the terms? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,214 Posted September 11, 2024 Just now, Mark Davis said: His tone hasn't been good but here smiling like the joker and trying to model The Thinker with her hand on her chin wasn't a great look either. Now when it comes to tone and volume, I'll agree with you. He can’t even look to his left. He stands there like a gollum. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,776 Posted September 11, 2024 Well did she ever meet Putin? She didn’t answer the question. Why? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 369 Posted September 11, 2024 Trump throwing so much love towards Putin and Kim-Jun over these years doesn't help him. Guy just talks too much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,642 Posted September 11, 2024 3 minutes ago, HellToupee said: He’s been sissified but I don’t think he goes that way He would bang a dude with a surgical wound posing as a vagina. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 398 Posted September 11, 2024 2 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Yeah what are the terms? They didn't bother to ask that. But we should play a role in helping that because that's the only realistic end. If you want Ukraine to survive and be independent, you should want it to. They aren't going to win a war of attrition against the Russians. Look at the population size and read your history book. Tell me when that's happened before. Short of turning their landscape into a remote desert and hiring religious zealot terrorists to help them, that game plan doesn't work well against Russia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites