TimHauck 2,877 Posted December 2, 2024 14 minutes ago, RLLD said: I doubt Biden pardons himself. But the timing of the Hunter pardon is telling. Most pardons transpire after sentencing, and where the individual has actually served time. One notable exemption on this would be Nixon, not great company to be in. Biden had to act fast to avoid the presentence investigation, what would likely come out of that would be devastating for Joe. I will say the timing was kinda dumb on his part, the night before everyone goes back to their normal routine and will talk about it. Guess the Biden campaign has never heard of a Friday news dump Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,859 Posted December 2, 2024 So does this free up Hunter to run in 2028? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,283 Posted December 2, 2024 2 hours ago, Patented Phil said: Now do the gun crimes. Here you go. Quote September 11, 2018 at 5:01 p.m. EDT If you lied to buy a firearm, fear not the feds. Your chances of being prosecuted by the Justice Department for falsifying information to illegally buy a gun are almost zero. Reviews by the National Instant Criminal Background Check System in fiscal 2017 led to 112,000 gun-purchase denials because people were in forbidden categories, according to a new report by the Government Accountability Office (GAO). The Justice Department’s Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) investigated 12,700 of those cases. How many of the investigated cases resulted in prosecutions? Twelve. That’s 0.09 percent of the cases ATF investigated. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,203 Posted December 2, 2024 21 minutes ago, MDC said: Remember last week when you said the Civil Rights Act destroyed the African American nuclear family? That was funny. You say many stupid things. He had made the claim (paraphrasing) how the Democratic Party has always been racist. I pointed out that LBJ was the one chiefly responsible for getting The Civil Rights Act of 1964 passed. He should have just admitted he was wrong or called TCRA some sort of outlier or an exception. Instead he doubled down pointing to how it destroyed the African American nuclear family (as if that somewhow was the intent of LBJ and Democrats ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted December 2, 2024 2 hours ago, supermike80 said: I would opt to eliminate the power completely. Maybe leave clemency....or a commutation. but full pardons? Nope This subject comes up at the end of every administation. I do not have an answer for the problem of abusing the power. It would be nice if there was an amendment stating that if a sitting President vows publicly to not pardon a person at any time while he or she is sitting that they cannot thereafter go back on that pledge or vow. without themselves serving any sentence in the stead of the pardoned person. That might eliminate insincere vows used in campaigns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,778 Posted December 2, 2024 Hunter had more illegal guns than all of the J6ers combined Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted December 2, 2024 Maybe also make it such that if a President pardons a campaign donor that the Presicdent must personally repay all of the donations not to the donor but to deficit reduction and if the presidnet canot make that payment then they cannot issue the pardon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 2,877 Posted December 2, 2024 6 minutes ago, squistion said: He had made the claim (paraphrasing) how the Democratic Party has always been racist. I pointed out that LBJ was the one chiefly responsible for getting The Civil Rights Act of 1964 passed. He should have just admitted he was wrong or called TCRA some sort of outlier or an exception. Instead he doubled down pointing to how it destroyed the African American nuclear family (as if that somewhow was the intent of LBJ and Democrats ) Too bad YouTube wasn’t around in 1964 or else he would have posted some random interview of one person claiming something tangentially related 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,859 Posted December 2, 2024 Of course Trump should get a pardon. That was one of the reasons for the historic landslide election last month. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,769 Posted December 2, 2024 The hypocrisy by guys like @Jon_mx, @Patented Phil and others never fails to amaze me. They are willing to buy into any story about Biden’s corruption no matter how flimsy or unproven. Conversely every accusation about Trump is false. The only standard they appear to have to reach these conclusions is that Trump is on their team and Biden is not. Which is why I have become both bored and disgusted by these corruption stories. 3 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted December 2, 2024 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: The hypocrisy by guys like @Jon_mx, @Patented Phil and others never fails to amaze me. They are willing to buy into any story about Biden’s corruption no matter how flimsy or unproven. Conversely every accusation about Trump is false. The only standard they appear to have to reach these conclusions is that Trump is on their team and Biden is not. Which is why I have become both bored and disgusted by these corruption stories. I love corruption stories as they inform us as to the possible behavior of our electeds, and they inform us about the biases and motives of the opposition party and of the press. Are they a Roschach test for us observers as well, no doubt they are. I suspect your current dislike of this has to do with your political affiliations and the administration which just abused the power. You would like the story to fade away so it causes you no cognitive dissonance. Do i have any proof of that opinion, no, just an abidding suspicion . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,769 Posted December 2, 2024 7 minutes ago, Engorgeous George said: I love corruption stories as they inform us as to the possible behavior of our electeds, and they inform us about the biases and motives of the opposition party and of the press. Are they a Roschach test for us observers as well, no doubt they are. I suspect your current dislike of this has to do with your political affiliations and the administration which just abused the power. You would like the story to fade away so it causes you no cognitive dissonance. Do i have any proof of that opinion, no, just an abidding suspicion . Your suspicion is wrong. First off I have no cognitive dissonance regarding Biden because I’ve never been a fan. I separate his effectiveness as President from all this other crap. Second I’m honestly sick of the Trump corruption stuff too, 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,438 Posted December 2, 2024 3 hours ago, Reality said: Not surprised that the biggest hacks on this site - mdc, gutter, honcho, etc. are not only ok with this, they are defending it. Also, this isn't about taxes and guns. Joe is protecting his own rear. Imagine being a toady for a spoiled rich kid pervert crackhead like Gutterboy and MDC are doing? Pathetic Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
supermike80 1,913 Posted December 2, 2024 Couple thoughts. 1) I do find it somewhat funny that the left, that always believed their party was the one with honor and the one that does good things, is in fact as corrupt as the side they hate so much. Power leads to corruption. Facts 2) Biden got hosed on this election. He absolutely positively did not want to drop out and he was forced to. Even though lefties like Squish and Timmy want to believe Biden did it for the good of the country. He did not And this is one of what might possibly be a few actions where he flips the bird to the democratic party. He knows how this will look. He knows the damage this will do. He didn't care. He's pissed and lashing out like an 8 year old. And he told his assistant to not take Obama's calls. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Reality 3,121 Posted December 2, 2024 6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Imagine being a toady for a spoiled rich kid pervert crackhead like Gutterboy and MDC are doing? Pathetic Portnoy nailed it. https://twitter.com/stoolpresidente/status/1863622960445079823 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,431 Posted December 2, 2024 Imagine wishing rape on somebody’s daughter cause you don’t like their politics. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 369 Posted December 2, 2024 13 hours ago, TimHauck said: So you’re saying he was not OK with dropping out of the race and is mad they replaced him with Kamala? I don't know if he was OK with dropping out of the race.. As long as Joe Biden was politically viable, it was good optics to not pardon his son; particularly during an election year when the idea of him pardoning him could be framed as a potential abuse of Presidential power. That narrative held true through Harris' run. Once she lost, he probably said..... "!@#$ it....this will make my family more whole". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,438 Posted December 2, 2024 Oh look, the two toadies, Gutterboy and MDC leave out the fact that Kushner did his time in prison. Not surprising. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,778 Posted December 2, 2024 1 hour ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Of course Trump should get a pardon. That was one of the reasons for the historic landslide election last month. I want Father Trump to pardon every member of his family born and yet to be born. These degenerates will keep persecuting him and his family for decades. They are sick 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,778 Posted December 2, 2024 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: The hypocrisy by guys like @Jon_mx, @Patented Phil and others never fails to amaze me. They are willing to buy into any story about Biden’s corruption no matter how flimsy or unproven. Conversely every accusation about Trump is false. The only standard they appear to have to reach these conclusions is that Trump is on their team and Biden is not. Which is why I have become both bored and disgusted by these corruption stories. Didn’t you believe like little squissy that Donald paid russian whores to pee on him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Phantom's Phantom 254 Posted December 2, 2024 4 minutes ago, HellToupee said: Father Trump Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,778 Posted December 2, 2024 34 minutes ago, MDC said: Imagine wishing rape on somebody’s daughter cause you don’t like their politics. You left out the part where that someone aides & abets bad hombres regardless if they rape or not. You can’t give comfort to those who wish harm and not expect blowback Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,438 Posted December 2, 2024 51 minutes ago, MDC said: Imagine wishing rape on somebody’s daughter cause you don’t like their politics. Haha, bullseye! Imagine being so triggered that you throw out whatever is lying around? I won. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
wiffleball 4,790 Posted December 2, 2024 Dudes pissed at the system - both sides. He's gotta know he doesn't have much of anything left. Taking care of his last remaining (scumbag) son seems reasonable. I'd be going wild having a few months in one of the most powerful jobs in the world. - And pretty much zero accountability. Aside: Hell, I'm starting to think Jimmy will outlive Joe. PS - Shane Gillis on Biden/Roomba is hella funny. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,431 Posted December 2, 2024 Imagine being such a shiit dad that you spend XMas swordfighting online instead of giving your kids attention. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted December 2, 2024 2 hours ago, TimHauck said: I will say the timing was kinda dumb on his part, the night before everyone goes back to their normal routine and will talk about it. Guess the Biden campaign has never heard of a Friday news dump I bet, that he pardons Jim Biden as well.....watch.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonnyutah 290 Posted December 2, 2024 18 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: Disappointing because he said he wouldn’t. If he hadn’t pledged not to do it I wouldn’t have a problem. This is the correct answer. I would pardon my kid. I would have never said I wouldnt pardon him though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,203 Posted December 2, 2024 https://x.com/karlykingsley/status/1863457612823453728 You all are acting like Hunter Biden stole classified documents and tried to overturn a free and fair election. Relax. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted December 2, 2024 Will he pardon Jill? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted December 2, 2024 They should give the Vice President something to do along these lines. Maybe they can be given the power to annul marriages. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death 302 Posted December 2, 2024 2 hours ago, HellToupee said: I want Father Trump to pardon every member of his family born and yet to be born. These degenerates will keep persecuting him and his family for decades. They are sick Grown-ass men calling this clown Father Trump. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death 302 Posted December 2, 2024 1 hour ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Haha, bullseye! Imagine being so triggered that you throw out whatever is lying around? I won. We all saw what you said. Own it or STFU. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,438 Posted December 2, 2024 32 minutes ago, Death said: We all saw what you said. Own it or STFU. What did I say? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,350 Posted December 2, 2024 1 hour ago, squistion said: https://x.com/karlykingsley/status/1863457612823453728 You all are acting like Hunter Biden stole classified documents and tried to overturn a free and fair election. Relax. you all are acting like Joe Biden didnt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,996 Posted December 2, 2024 If Hunter wasn't guilty, why pardon him?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,996 Posted December 2, 2024 3 hours ago, HellToupee said: Donald paid russian whores to pee on him That's a Boss ass move! Love it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,799 Posted December 2, 2024 Hunter's blanket pardon goes back to January 2014. He started at Burisma in... wait for it... April 2014. I'm sure that is a coincidence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,996 Posted December 2, 2024 Just now, jerryskids said: Hunter's blanket pardon goes back to January 2014. He started at Burisma in... wait for it... April 2014. I'm sure that is a coincidence. Daddy's Ukraine scheme netted Billions! Liberals fell for it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted December 2, 2024 2 hours ago, jonnyutah said: This is the correct answer. I would pardon my kid. I would have never said I wouldnt pardon him though. Agree. I asserted months ago that he would pardon his son, and I did not have a problem with it. Any father would do this for their son. That said, going back 10 years? The timing of it? Suddenly using the Trump talking point about legal abuses? Wow...... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,996 Posted December 2, 2024 Trump is about to rain all hell down on the Democrats. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites