Vaccines work

[The Phantom's Phantom 254]

Been sick in bed since Christmas with influenza A.  For various reasons I didn't get a flu shot this year and regret it.  Same with my wife and one daughter.  My son and other daughter both got their flu shots, they're both fine, along with everyone else that got their shots that was here for Christmas. The rest of us are suffering.

Get your flu shot.  Vaccines work.

[Alias Detective 1,398]

That sucks.  

[seafoam1 3,008]

I never had a flu shot.  I haven't had the flu since I was in my 20s. 

Get all the shots you want. No one is stopping you.

Guys in their 50s should be more concerned with getting their insides checked out. Colonoscopy time ladies. 

[lickin_starfish 1,934]

My wife and I don't get the flu shots, and we haven't had the flu in a long time. Her brother's family got all their injections, and they've been sick in bed all week. 

Get your flu shots if you want. Be the boss of your own health and mind your business.

 

[edjr 6,580]

I have one of the worst colds I have ever had atm. Kid had it, gave it to his mother and I finally got it. It is not da fru. Wouldn’t get fru vax if you paid me.

[seafoam1 3,008]

18 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said:

My wife and I don't get the flu shots, and we haven't had the flu in a long time. Her brother's family got all their injections, and they've been sick in bed all week. 

Get your flu shots if you want. Be the boss of your own health and mind your business.

 

Years back my girlfriend would get a flu shot every year she told me, and always got sick from it. The last time she got one she had to take PTO for 4 days it was so bad. 

I simply suggested for her to bypass the shot the next year and she said maybe she would give that a go. The next year she chose to give it a go. No shot. 

The previous year was the last time she had the flu since then.. Or the shot flu. Whatever it is. About 11 years now. 

[edjr 6,580]

also, yes they do, just not the covid ones

[squistion 2,183]

Flu shots don't guarantee that you won't get the flu. They only protect you from the flu viruses that scientists identified at the time the vaccine was created and there will always be variations or mutations that they have missed. 

[Alias Detective 1,398]

6 minutes ago, squistion said:

Flu shots don't guarantee that you won't get the flu. They only protect you from the flu viruses that scientists identified at the time the vaccine was created and there will always be variations or mutations that they have missed. 

 

 

Russian Roulette 

[The Phantom's Phantom 254]

25 minutes ago, squistion said:

Flu shots don't guarantee that you won't get the flu. They only protect you from the flu viruses that scientists identified at the time the vaccine was created and there will always be variations or mutations that they have missed. 

 

 

Well whatever strain we have, it works against it as evidenced by those that got sick vs those that didn't.

[Death 302]

1 hour ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

Well whatever strain we have, it works against it as evidenced by those that got sick vs those that didn't.

Did you take Tamiflu?

[The Phantom's Phantom 254]

17 minutes ago, Death said:

Did you take Tamiflu?

Yes and I think it worked.  We all got it via telehealth.

[edjr 6,580]

7 hours ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

Well whatever strain we have, it works against it as evidenced by those that got sick vs those that didn't.

like covid    

[Hardcore troubadour 15,380]

16 hours ago, The Phantom's Phantom said:

Been sick in bed since Christmas with influenza A.  For various reasons I didn't get a flu shot this year and regret it.  Same with my wife and one daughter.  My son and other daughter both got their flu shots, they're both fine, along with everyone else that got their shots that was here for Christmas. The rest of us are suffering.

Get your flu shot.  Vaccines work.

Don’t they stunt your growth?

[Cloaca du jour 2,149]

I have no issues with vaccines.  I got the flu vax 2 years ago and I missed a week of work with vertigo so bad I couldn't even walk.  Never again.  

Vertigo is the worst feeling ever.  

[jerryskids 6,783]

6 hours ago, Cloaca du jour said:

I have no issues with vaccines.  I got the flu vax 2 years ago and I missed a week of work with vertigo so bad I couldn't even walk.  Never again.  

Vertigo is the worst feeling ever.  

Vouch.  I've had my head darn near cut off in a laryngectomy, and chemotherapy, and by far the worst I've felt in all of this experience was vertigo.  I actually did PT where they toss your head in different directions to move the crystals in your inner ear, and dadgum if it didn't work!  But before that, I wanted to die.

What made it particularly sucktastic was that it was after my lary but before chemo, and I had been training hard for Pat's Run, a 4.2 mile charity run for the Pat Tillman foundation.  It was spring of 2021 so Covid, so they did the run remotely (basically, pick your own route).  We had good options by our house for 1, 2.1, and 4.2 mile routes, so we sponsored a party/run for our gym at our house.  I was looking forward to showing my gym buddies that I wasn't going to let this cancer thing stop me.  Instead I sat there like a focking invalid watching everyone spin around in circles and trying not to puke.   

[jerryskids 6,783]

Oh yeah, the flu.  I meant to get the shot this year, but I learned from @MTSkiBumthat it only lasts for a few months, so the trick is to time it right.  They start advertising it in September, which is fairly useless.  Mostly I wanted to get it so that I wouldn't contaminate my diabetic daughter, the one who lives in NYC and is visiting us now for the holidays.

Well... something knocked her out in the middle of the night.  She thinks it was food poisoning; she had oysters while out with friends last night (although one friend also ate them and feels fine).  Thing is, she has always reacted to fever by throwing up, so it's hard to diagnose.  Wasn't me, I feel fine.  She has basically slept all day.  I hope she feels better when she wakes up. 

[MTSkiBum 1,620]

I need to get the flu vaccine this week, we are starting to peak in Texas according to the maps.

[5-Points 3,521]

They might work for those that need them. My money is on my functioning immune system that doesn't rely on experimental injections. 

[Mike Honcho 5,259]

About 10 years ago, I was diagnosed with sleep apnea. I pretty much only breathe through my nose, so if I get anything that stuffs up my nose, my sleep is interrupted around 45 times an hour.  I get the flu, which for most means a week of being sick and sleeping, for me means a week of being sick and not sleeping. It takes me 20 to 40% longer to recover from illnesses like that, just from the exhaustion. So yeah, I take every vaccine that comes down the pipe that raises my odds of not getting sick.  

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,082]

6 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

About 10 years ago, I was diagnosed with sleep apnea. I pretty much only breathe through my nose, so if I get anything that stuffs up my nose, my sleep is interrupted around 45 times an hour.  I get the flu, which for most means a week of being sick and sleeping, for me means a week of being sick and not sleeping. It takes me 20 to 40% longer to recover from illnesses like that, just from the exhaustion. So yeah, I take every vaccine that comes down the pipe that raises my odds of not getting sick.  

I'm okay with that. 

I have no issues with people who want - or don't want - to take them.  It's your choice.

[Mike Honcho 5,259]

8 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

I'm okay with that. 

I have no issues with people who want - or don't want - to take them.  It's your choice.

And I have no issues with that, as long as the people who don't want them are doing what they can to be healthy and preventing the spread of diseases. I respect peoples right to be cautious about what they put in their body. I hope they will respect and understand my circumstances and do what they can to not infect me with something that might have been preventable. 

[5-Points 3,521]

26 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

About 10 years ago, I was diagnosed with sleep apnea. I pretty much only breathe through my nose, so if I get anything that stuffs up my nose, my sleep is interrupted around 45 times an hour.  I get the flu, which for most means a week of being sick and sleeping, for me means a week of being sick and not sleeping. It takes me 20 to 40% longer to recover from illnesses like that, just from the exhaustion. So yeah, I take every vaccine that comes down the pipe that raises my odds of not getting sick.  

See, this is what I mean. You, most likely, benefit from vaccines. If they keep you from dealing with the worst symptoms of a given illness, it's a good idea for you to take them. 

I rarely get sick. I'm out in public all day, every day, for work. I come into contact with sick people all the time and it helps to boost my immune system. Short of licking grocery cart handles at all of my accounts, I don't think there's much more I can do to subject myself to the possibility of coming into contact with sick people. It would also probably get me fired but that's beside teh point. 

On the rare occasion I do get sick, the symptoms are mild and short lived. I honestly don't think getting vaccinated would benefit me in any way. I actually think it would be counterproductive. 

[Maximum Overkill 1,984]

On 12/29/2024 at 6:35 AM, The Phantom's Phantom said:

Been sick in bed since Christmas with influenza A

Pvssy!  

Bourbon, NyQuil and power through it. That's what MEN do. 

[Mike Honcho 5,259]

1 minute ago, 5-Points said:

See, this is what I mean. You, most likely, benefit from vaccines. If they keep you from dealing with the worst symptoms of a given illness, it's a good idea for you to take them. 

I rarely get sick. I'm out in public all day, every day, for work. I come into contact with sick people all the time and it helps to boost my immune system. Short of licking grocery cart handles at all of my accounts, I don't think there's much more I can do to subject myself to the possibility of coming into contact with sick people. It would also probably get me fired but that's beside teh point. 

On the rare occasion I do get sick, the symptoms are mild and short lived. I honestly don't think getting vaccinated would benefit me in any way. 

You have to fight the urge though, don't you.  

[5-Points 3,521]

Just now, Mike Honcho said:

You have to fight the urge though, don't you.  

I'm no weirdo.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Horseman 2,448]

On 12/29/2024 at 6:35 AM, The Phantom's Phantom said:

Been sick in bed since Christmas with influenza A.  For various reasons I didn't get a flu shot this year and regret it.  Same with my wife and one daughter.  My son and other daughter both got their flu shots, they're both fine, along with everyone else that got their shots that was here for Christmas. The rest of us are suffering.

Get your flu shot.  Vaccines work.

Sick in bed with the flu?   What a foking weakling.   

[The Phantom's Phantom 254]

2 minutes ago, Horseman said:

Sick in bed with the flu?   What a foking weakling.   

Oh look my stalker can't stop...

[Fnord 2,257]

16 hours ago, Mike Honcho said:

About 10 years ago, I was diagnosed with sleep apnea. I pretty much only breathe through my nose, so if I get anything that stuffs up my nose, my sleep is interrupted around 45 times an hour.  I get the flu, which for most means a week of being sick and sleeping, for me means a week of being sick and not sleeping. It takes me 20 to 40% longer to recover from illnesses like that, just from the exhaustion. So yeah, I take every vaccine that comes down the pipe that raises my odds of not getting sick.  

So did you get a C-PAP or Bi-PAP? Those things are life savers when you get sick. Help you to breathe even when your nose is plugged AF.

 

15 hours ago, 5-Points said:

See, this is what I mean. You, most likely, benefit from vaccines. If they keep you from dealing with the worst symptoms of a given illness, it's a good idea for you to take them. 

I rarely get sick. I'm out in public all day, every day, for work. I come into contact with sick people all the time and it helps to boost my immune system. Short of licking grocery cart handles at all of my accounts, I don't think there's much more I can do to subject myself to the possibility of coming into contact with sick people. It would also probably get me fired but that's beside teh point. 

On the rare occasion I do get sick, the symptoms are mild and short lived. I honestly don't think getting vaccinated would benefit me in any way. I actually think it would be counterproductive. 

I used to work a job that took me into some really nasty environments full of mold, moisture, sewage, bacteria, etc. Those years were the healthiest years of my life. After I quit smoking, at least. Now that I don't do that for a living anymore, I have found that good hand hygiene is the biggest key to maintaining good health. And of course, taking vaccines. Which I only do because I work in health care and it's more for the patients than it is for myself. If I didn't have easy, free access to them, I would probably not get them.

[MDC 7,387]

17 hours ago, 5-Points said:

They might work for those that need them. My money is on my functioning immune system that doesn't rely on experimental injections. 

The flu vaccine has been around since the 40s. Do you consider the automobile to be experimental technology? 

[posty 2,695]

4 minutes ago, MDC said:

The flu vaccine has been around since the 40s. Do you consider the automobile to be experimental technology? 

What is this automobile you are talking about?  Please explain it like I am seafoam and don’t understand how breathing works…

[The Real timschochet 6,741]

I think: 

1. All vaccines should be voluntarily UNLESS there is a risk that not taking them can lead to a public health crisis or threat. In that event they should IMO be mandatory. 

2. I personally believe that almost all fear of vaccines, including the Covid vaccine, is rooted in anti-science superstition. But so long as public health is not threatened, people should have the right to refuse. 

[lickin_starfish 1,934]

43 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I think: 

1. All vaccines should be voluntarily UNLESS there is a risk that not taking them can lead to a public health crisis or threat. In that event they should IMO be mandatory. 

2. I personally believe that almost all fear of vaccines, including the Covid vaccine, is rooted in anti-science superstition. But so long as public health is not threatened, people should have the right to refuse. 

Should the vaccine stop people from catching and spreading the illness, or is that irrelevant?

[The Real timschochet 6,741]

4 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said:

Should the vaccine stop people from catching and spreading the illness, or is that irrelevant?

I think that’s implicit when I wrote “public health risk” so yeah of course. 

[lickin_starfish 1,934]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

I think that’s implicit when I wrote “public health risk” so yeah of course. 

Okay, just wondering since the coovid injections didn't stop people from catching and spreading the coof, but it was made mandatory anyways.

[edjr 6,580]

Where is the aids vaccine? 

[The Real timschochet 6,741]

5 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said:

Okay, just wondering since the coovid injections didn't stop people from catching and spreading the coof, but it was made mandatory anyways.

My understanding is that they made Covid less fatal and less serious. That being the case I believe it was proper for them to be mandatory. But even if you disagree with that, I’m glad that you agree with the principle that vaccines can be mandatory if the alternative is a public health risk. We are likely to confront future pandemics and may be forced to deal with this issue again. 

[lickin_starfish 1,934]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

My understanding is that they made Covid less fatal and less serious. That being the case I believe it was proper for them to be mandatory. But even if you disagree with that, I’m glad that you agree with the principle that vaccines can be mandatory if the alternative is a public health risk. We are likely to confront future pandemics and may be forced to deal with this issue again. 

I don't agree. You can't mandate an injection based on that it might possibly make you less sick. They may as well have mandated NyQuil in that case.

[The Real timschochet 6,741]

26 minutes ago, lickin_starfish said:

I don't agree. You can't mandate an injection based on that it might possibly make you less sick. They may as well have mandated NyQuil in that case.

Thats not what I’m arguing. I don’t care if it makes a single person less sick. If it can contribute to making large numbers of people less sick (or dead) then I think a mandate can be justified. 

[lickin_starfish 1,934]

8 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Thats not what I’m arguing. I don’t care if it makes a single person less sick. If it can contribute to making large numbers of people less sick (or dead) then I think a mandate can be justified. 

It's good that a lot of people have woken up in the last three years, and won't subject themselves to your mandates.