Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted January 8 Good luck. No one knows how to drive in the snow down there. Stay off the roads. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,592 Posted January 8 4 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Good luck. No one knows how to drive in the snow down there. Stay off the roads. Do people have SUVs? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted January 8 4 minutes ago, edjr said: Do people have SUVs? I'm not sure it matters what they drive, they just don't have the experience driving in snow. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,592 Posted January 8 Just now, Hawkeye21 said: I'm not sure it matters what they drive, they just don't have the experience driving in snow. Driving an SUV gives some a false sense of security when driving in the snow/ice. Especially when they have little experience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 1,859 Posted January 8 They have been warning people traveling down to the OSU/Texas semifinals that getting in and out of Dallas could be problematic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,592 Posted January 8 1 minute ago, Tree of Knowledge said: They have been warning people traveling down to the OSU/Texas semifinals that getting in and out of Dallas could be problematic. I always remember many years ago. Dallas had some ice on the roads and the pileups were many Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fireballer 2,642 Posted January 8 12 minutes ago, Hawkeye21 said: Good luck. No one knows how to drive in the snow down there. Stay off the roads. The problem with the south is that precip is usually a mixed bag and not just snow. I’ve seen plenty of Yankees look like idiots in mixed precip. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,230 Posted January 8 1 minute ago, edjr said: I always remember many years ago. Dallas had some ice on the roads and the pileups were many I think Georgia got hit as well, and was locked down as a result.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted January 8 2 minutes ago, edjr said: Driving an SUV gives some a false sense of security when driving in the snow/ice. Especially when they have little experience. A truck will do the same thing. They are usually the ones passing people on the highway when conditions are terrible. I've been guilty of it myself, to be honest. I'm use to driving in it though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted January 8 Just now, Fireballer said: The problem with the south is that precip is usually a mixed bag and not just snow. I’ve seen plenty of Yankees look like idiots in mixed precip. The biggest issue is that they don't have the resources to treat the roads for snow and ice. All of our roads get treated before a storm comes to help prevent too much snow/ice coverage. We also have snow plows running at all hours. People even have their own plows for removing snow around town. It takes a pretty major storm to shut things down around here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jerryskids 6,799 Posted January 8 1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said: A truck will do the same thing. They are usually the ones passing people on the highway when conditions are terrible. I've been guilty of it myself, to be honest. I'm use to driving in it though. It's turrble here. Tons of people live in Phoenix and have little/no experience in snow. Then they drive a few hours north to Flagstaff to see the snow, whee! I've driven home from Flag during a snowstorm and there are so many vehicles which slid off the side of the road, it looks like a dystopian post-apocalyptic movie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,592 Posted January 8 1 hour ago, Hawkeye21 said: A truck will do the same thing. They are usually the ones passing people on the highway when conditions are terrible. I've been guilty of it myself, to be honest. I'm use to driving in it though. I have been driving in snow/ice/slush for so long. I am the one passing people on the highway. I get that feeling in my gut when it is time to slow down Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted January 8 21 minutes ago, edjr said: I have been driving in snow/ice/slush for so long. I am the one passing people on the highway. I get that feeling in my gut when it is time to slow down I get that feeling too. Comes with experience. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,275 Posted January 8 30 minutes ago, edjr said: I have been driving in snow/ice/slush for so long. I am the one passing people on the highway. I get that feeling in my gut when it is time to slow down This. It was like riding a bike after I lived in SoCal for several years coming back to snow and ice. You know when you go into a slide at 60 mph on the interstate and don't panic or hit the brakes while correcting that you're a capable winter driver. I actually enjoy driving in those conditions, depending on what the other idiots on the road are doing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,592 Posted January 8 1 minute ago, Fnord said: This. It was like riding a bike after I lived in SoCal for several years coming back to snow and ice. You know when you go into a slide at 60 mph on the interstate and don't panic or hit the brakes while correcting that you're a capable winter driver. I actually enjoy driving in those conditions, depending on what the other idiots on the road are doing. The thing that still gets me and makes my heart fall out of my chest is when I hit a huge puddle and hydroplane Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,275 Posted January 8 2 minutes ago, edjr said: The thing that still gets me and makes my heart fall out of my chest is when I hit a huge puddle and hydroplane Same. You forgot to mention that when that happens, your visibility immediately goes to zero. But doing the same thing is hella fun if you're screwing around and don't have to worry about other cars! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,283 Posted January 8 The people who live in 50 to 75 degree winters will be inconvenienced for a little while---oh no! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BunnysBastatrds 2,442 Posted January 8 2 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said: I'm not sure it matters what they drive, they just don't have the experience driving in snow. I have almost zero experience driving in snow/ice. Down here not many have any experience. It’s snowed a few times here in memory. When they have ice on the roads,they close all or most overpasses in the city. I can drive in and during hurricanes and flooding. No would attempt driving in heavy snow and ice. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
lickin_starfish 1,937 Posted January 8 7 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said: A truck will do the same thing. They are usually the ones passing people on the highway when conditions are terrible. I've been guilty of it myself, to be honest. I'm use to driving in it though. I drive a truck and had to pass somebody this morning. The car ahead of me was going 18 mph in a 55 zone. It was pretty snowy and windy, but 18 mph was ridiculous. I hate passing people in those conditions, but a line of traffic was forming from the lead car and I had to keep braking to keep my distance. People like that should pull over and let the others go by. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,997 Posted January 8 I'm in The Low Country. We won't get snow here but I'm sure a lot of precipitation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Engorgeous George 2,331 Posted January 8 Wondering if Texas will get that lovely layer of ice they got a few years ago which shut down their antiquated power grid. Could we see that again, and if so can we count on Ted Cruz being on vacation in Mexico when it happens? In rural Wisconsin, back when I was growing up, we encouraged kids to do donuts and power slides in parking lots, on frozen lakes, and pretty much anywhere. That was part of how we learned to drive. Of course we also practiced our drunk driving skills so we would be prepared when things came to pass. Amoung the most important lessons we learned was to watch out for FIB's come north from the flatlands of Illinois as they were the biggest road hazard there was. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Death 302 Posted January 9 5 hours ago, Mike Honcho said: The people who live in 50 to 75 degree winters will be inconvenienced for a little while---oh no! And they'll lose their minds and buy up everything they can find in a store, only to have whatever winter precitipitation that did stick be melted by noon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Voltaire 5,316 Posted January 9 "Polar vortex" my ass. They're all such focking poosays around here whining endlessly about the cold. You would not believe. One second of suffering because the door handle is metal. Horrors! No snow and my breath doesn't even frost at 6:30 AM. I wear a light jacket in the morning and I take it off in the afternoon. Truthfully, maybe I'd take a hat and gloves with me if I were to be outside all day but its optional. I've certainly been caught without in far worse conditions. In all honesty and sincerity, in Detroit, I'd call this "a nice fall day." If you're going to be outside for hours to watch your local high school's homecoming game, this is the weather you hope to get. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MLCKAA 574 Posted January 9 19 hours ago, edjr said: Do people have SUVs? Yeah but people don’t understand that AWD will help go on ice but it doesn’t help you stop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,770 Posted January 9 Whether it is storms in the south, hurricanes in the southeast, fires in California, etc. severe weather conditions are going to take a huge toll and dominate our lives in this time of man-made climate change. And it’s only going to get worse. This is the new normal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted January 9 14 hours ago, lickin_starfish said: I drive a truck and had to pass somebody this morning. The car ahead of me was going 18 mph in a 55 zone. It was pretty snowy and windy, but 18 mph was ridiculous. I hate passing people in those conditions, but a line of traffic was forming from the lead car and I had to keep braking to keep my distance. People like that should pull over and let the others go by. A lot of people should not be on the road at all. They are a danger to others. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted January 9 6 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Whether it is storms in the south, hurricanes in the southeast, fires in California, etc. severe weather conditions are going to take a huge toll and dominate our lives in this time of man-made climate change. And it’s only going to get worse. This is the new normal. This has been normal my whole life. It was normal for my parents and grandparents as well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,592 Posted January 9 12 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Whether it is storms in the south, hurricanes in the southeast, fires in California, etc. severe weather conditions are going to take a huge toll and dominate our lives in this time of man-made climate change. And it’s only going to get worse. This is the new normal. Quote Significant North Texas Snow and Ice Events February 14-17, 2021 During a severe arctic outbreak, multiple rounds of snowfall occurred. Event totals of 6 to 8 inches were widespread in areas east of the I-35 corridor as well as across portions of Northwest Texas. The 5-inch tally at DFW Airport was the highest event total in more than a decade, and Waco's 4.6 inches was the greatest amount in nearly 40 years. January 10, 2021 Many locations across Central Texas tallied more than 6 inches of snow, making this event one of the most significant on record. Mosheim (Bosque County) reported 9 inches. Stephenville saw 8 inches, and Palestine tallied 6 inches. March 4-5, 2015 Widespread snow resulted in measurable amounts regionwide. From northern portions of the Dallas/Fort Worth Metroplex into Northeast Texas, event totals were 5 to 6 inches. February 27, 2015 Heavy snow fell from the Big Country into Texoma. The greatest event totals were from Breckenridge (6 inches) to Decatur (7 inches). December 5-6, 2013 Heavy sleet and freezing rain fell across much of the region, resulting in accumulations of as much as 4 to 5 inches in the Sherman/Denison area. Persistent cloud cover caused the icy conditions to refreeze over multiple days, during which the term "cobblestone ice" was coined. DFW Airport endured prolonged impacts to operations. December 25, 2012 On Christmas Day, a strong upper level system and cold front first brought hail-producing thunderstorms to the region, then a winter weather event that included snow and sleet. The storms produced lots of pea sized hail and occasionally slightly larger hail. The snow fell generally north of a line from Breckenridge to Palestine. The greatest concentration of heavy snow was in western Denton County and Collin County where 4 to 6 inches of snow fell. There were also isolated locations that received 4 to 6 inches of snow in Parker, Grayson, Fannin, Hunt, and Emory counties. The overall impacts from the sleet and snow were minimal but there were the usual impacts to transportation in the region when the snow froze on area roads that night; especially on elevated roadways, bridges, and overpasses. February 3-4, 2011 Snow began in Central Texas during the evening hours of February 3. The snow spread north overnight, impacting nearly all of North Texas. Snow continued in Northeast Texas into the evening hours of February 4. Dallas Love Field measured 5.1 inches for the event. Totals of 6 inches or more could be found in Collin County, and from Corsicana to Terrell and Canton. The heaviest amounts were 7 to 8 inches, from Emory and Sulphur Springs to Mineola and Mount Pleasant. February 1, 2011 Heavy rain accompanied a strong arctic front. The precipitation transitioned to heavy sleet thunderstorms during the early morning hours of February 1. Winds gusted over 50 mph at DFW Airport with heavy sleet. The precipitation changed to snow before ending, accumulating 6 to 7 inches of frozen precipitation in Graham and Olney. January 9-10, 2011 Heavy rain affected much of North Texas on January 9, transitioning to heavy snow in Northeast Texas. Some light snow continued during the early morning hours of January 10. As much as 6 inches of snow fell from Sulphur Springs to Cooper, where the snow remained on the ground for several days. March 20-21, 2010 An unusually strong and cold upper level low slowly moved along the Red River Valley on March 20 and 21. Heavy snowfall occurred on the backside of the low with measurable snowfall occurring mainly to the north of I-20. A very localized and heavy band of snow developed during the early morning hours of the 21st, dumping 5 to 9 inches of snow across Collin County. Some locations just 20 miles to the southwest of this band of snow only picked up 1 inch. Snow continued into the early afternoon hours on the 21st across East Texas before ending. February 23, 2010 A strong upper level low pressure system tracked across Central Texas and brought a significant snow event to the region. The highest accumulations of 3 to 5 inches occurred south of I-20 near where the center of the upper low tracked. Snow began in the Hill Country during the early morning hours. Heavy snow spread across Central Texas and moved into East Texas during the afternoon hours before ending. February 11-12, 2010 Record breaking snow fell across North Central Texas. Cold air was already in place when a slow moving upper level low approached. The low slowed significantly as it got closer to the region, and this allowed relatively warm and moist air to move over the colder air at the surface for an extended period of time. This very unusual event brought snowfall totals of a foot or more for many locations around the DFW Metroplex. Haslet reported 14.4 inches, while DFW Airport had a record breaking 12.5 inches in 24 hours. Widespread power outages resulted from the heavy snow, weighing down tree limbs and breaking transmission lines. Clean up from the tree damage lasted for weeks. December 24, 2009 A powerful upper level low brought near blizzard conditions to North Texas on Christmas Eve. Winds gusted to 40 to 50 mph while snow was falling resulting in very low visibilities and blowing snow. Snow began to fall during the late morning hours, increasing in intensity during the afternoon. Snowfall amounts were heaviest northwest of the Metroplex where Graham and Bowie recorded 6 to 9 inches of snow. From Comanche to the DFW Metroplex into the Sherman/Denison area, 2 to 3 inches of snow fell. This snow remained on the ground the next morning, giving many areas a white Christmas. March 6-7, 2008 Rain changed over to heavy snow and thundersnow during the late morning hours in areas northwest of the DFW Metroplex. Decatur and Gainesville reported 9 inches of snow with this event. A stationary rain/snow line resulted in dramatically different snow totals across the Metroplex. Northern Tarrant County had up to 7 inches of snow, DFW recorded only 1.1 inches, and much of the Metroplex saw less than 1 inch. More light snow developed across the eastern Metroplex and into Northeast Texas in the early morning hours of March 7, but amounts were less than 1 inch. March 3, 2008 An upper level low produced snow for most areas along and north of I-20 where amounts generally ranged from a trace to 3 inches. A localized intense band of heavy snow centere dover Grayson County produced as much as 6 inches of snow. DFW recorded 1 inch. April 7-8, 2007 Snow fell in areas south of I-20 during the daytime hours of the Saturday before Easter. The highest amounts of 3 to5 inches were found in a band from Comanche and Goldthwaite to Waco and Temple/Killeen. Bluebonnets were already in bloom when this snow fell, making for unique pictures of this event. March 27, 2005 An upper level low produced a very localized narrow band of 1-2 inches of snow from Graham to Weatherford to Benbrook to Cleburne in the predawn hours of Easter morning. Most areas outside the snow band saw only moderate to heavy rain. February 14, 2004 Between 2-5 inches of snow were widespread over the northern half of North Texas. The event began during the early morning hours, and generally ended by midday over the Metroplex. February 24-27, 2003 This was a widespread freezing rain, sleet, and snow event, with ice to the south and snow to the north. Accumulations were generally 3-5 inches over the northern third of the area, and 1-3 inches over the middle third. In Central Texas and adjacent portions of Southeast Texas, ice accumulated to between¼-½ inch. February 5-6, 2002 Snow fell over the northern sections of North Texas from the late morning of the 5th to the early morning hours of the 6th. Between 4-5 inches accumulation was reported from Gainesville to Paris, and from McKinney to Greenville to Cooper. Elsewhere, 1-3 inches were the rule. December 31, 2000 Snow fell across much of North Texas during the day, with scattered 1-3 inch accumulations. December 25-27, 2000 Freezing rain affected most of the area north of Interstate 20 on the 25th-26th. Up to four inches of ice was reported from Montague County east to Lamar County (as well as much of northeast Texas, southeast Oklahoma, and western Arkansas). Sleet and snow occurred over much of North Texas the night of the 27th. A small area of 4-8 inches fell over northern Hamilton, northwest Bosque, all of Erath, eastern Eastland, and western Palo Pinto. A foot of snow closed Ranger Hill for three days. Another band of 3-6 inches fell from northern Hill County into southern Dallas County, with 7 inches at Itasca. December 12-13, 2000 Freezing rain and sleet fell from the afternoon of the 12th through midday on the 13th. Up to an inch accumulation was reported along the Red River. January 25-28, 2000 Up to an inch of sleet and snow fell at Paris on the 25th. Freezing rain, sleet and snow were more widespread the 26th-27th, affecting most of north Texas, but more over the northern half. Accumulations ranged from 2 inches in the northwest to 5 inches in the northeast. Between 3-5 inches accumulated over the northeast counties as part of a general ice storm over much of North Texas. January 6, 1997 Between 4-6 inches fell over a narrow band from Hamilton to Cleburne and Hillsboro, and from Emory to Mount Vernon, including Sulphur Springs and Mineola. April 5, 1996 Severe drought plagued North Texas throughout the winter months, but this Good Friday brought abundant rainfall and one of the heaviest April snowstorms on record. Some sleet mixed with the rain before a complete transition to snow occurred west of a line from Montague to Weatherford to Eastland (though some light snow fell as far east as Fort Worth). The heaviest snowfall occurred near the I-20 corridor where Sweetwater accumulated 18 inches. The 9.3 inches at Abilene remains an all-time 24-hour record. Six inches fell in Breckenridge. November 25, 1993 Freezing rain and sleet fell during a subfreezing afternoon, amounting to 0.3 inches on the ground at DFW Airport. This was the first time that wintry precipitation was ever recorded on Thanksgiving in Dallas/Fort Worth, impacting the annual Thanksgiving Day Dallas Cowboys football game (vs. Miami Dolphins) at Texas Stadium. January 12-13, 1985 While not a North Texas snow event, this one deserves mention. Snowfall above four inches fell over a large area of southwest and south central Texas, generally southwest of a line from Midland to Austin and north of a line from Eagle Pass to Gonzales. Between 8-14 inches fell from the Hill Country to San Antonio and as far south as Eagle Pass. December 15-16, 1983 A narrow band of 4-6 inches fell along a line from Weatherford to Denton to Greenville and Paris. Another band of 4-8 inches occurred from Wills Point to Tyler and Gilmer. January 13, 1982 Between 6-10 inches fell in a band from Hamilton to Hillsboro to Tyler, with Clifton and Itasca reporting 15 inches for the event. The totals easily place this event among the greatest North Texas snowfalls of the 20th century. At least four inches fell south of a line through Abilene-Dublin-Corsicana-Longview, and north of a line through San Angelo-San Saba-Marlin-Jacksonville. Only a trace fell in the Dallas/Fort Worth and Temple areas with this event. You absolute FRAUD. As always. https://www.weather.gov/fwd/dsnows 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,770 Posted January 9 Look the scientists tell me it’s never been this frequent or this bad. I believe them and pay attention. If that makes me a fraud in your eyes then so be it. But I don’t have any agenda here. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,592 Posted January 9 10 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: But I don’t have any agenda here. If you are a democrat or a republican, of course you have an agenda. You would not pick sides if you didn't Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 6,770 Posted January 9 1 minute ago, edjr said: If you are a democrat or a republican, of course you have an agenda. You would not pick sides if you didn't Not on this topic because I don’t agree with most of the Democrat’s proposed solutions to climate change. Or the Republicans. I vote Democrat but not because of this issue. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted January 9 21 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Look the scientists tell me it’s never been this frequent or this bad. I believe them and pay attention. If that makes me a fraud in your eyes then so be it. But I don’t have any agenda here. I recommend reading this article. It's a bit lengthy, but it's pretty good. It gives more information on how the science community has dealt with the whole climate change argument. https://www.csmonitor.com/Environment/2024/0606/climate-change-skepticism-uncertainty-trust Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkeye21 2,399 Posted January 10 Brilliant! https://twitter.com/LiveCamChaser/status/1877733449101901939 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Baker Boy 1,699 Posted January 10 On 1/9/2025 at 7:05 AM, The Real timschochet said: Whether it is storms in the south, hurricanes in the southeast, fires in California, etc. severe weather conditions are going to take a huge toll and dominate our lives in this time of man-made climate change. And it’s only going to get worse. This is the new normal. Do you actually believe that eliminating fossil fuels is going to lower the temperature of the Earth? By how much? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,283 Posted January 10 On 1/9/2025 at 6:19 AM, Voltaire said: "Polar vortex" my ass. They're all such focking poosays around here whining endlessly about the cold. You would not believe. One second of suffering because the door handle is metal. Horrors! No snow and my breath doesn't even frost at 6:30 AM. I wear a light jacket in the morning and I take it off in the afternoon. Truthfully, maybe I'd take a hat and gloves with me if I were to be outside all day but its optional. I've certainly been caught without in far worse conditions. In all honesty and sincerity, in Detroit, I'd call this "a nice fall day." If you're going to be outside for hours to watch your local high school's homecoming game, this is the weather you hope to get. well at least 'mark yourself safe' on Facebook. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maximum Overkill 1,997 Posted January 10 I lied, I drove to Aiken today and it was wet snow and lots of ice. 31 degrees and rain right now. I'll be spending the night here Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,439 Posted January 11 10 hours ago, Hawkeye21 said: Brilliant! https://twitter.com/LiveCamChaser/status/1877733449101901939 Soft southern boys can’t handle the cold Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CaptainObvious1 368 Posted January 11 On 1/9/2025 at 9:05 AM, The Real timschochet said: Whether it is storms in the south, hurricanes in the southeast, fires in California, etc. severe weather conditions are going to take a huge toll and dominate our lives in this time of man-made climate change. And it’s only going to get worse. This is the new normal. It's 2 inches of snow in most places. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
edjr 6,592 Posted January 13 On 1/10/2025 at 10:41 PM, CaptainObvious1 said: It's 2 inches of snow in most places. We know how you measured that Share this post Link to post Share on other sites