Super Bowl LIX: Chiefs v Eagles

[cmh6476 1,009]

Is it Sunday yet?

[weepaws 3,149]

Yawn. 

[gcmmidwest 149]

Who we taking ? 1st thought was eagles are gonna pound them...but now I'm 2nd guessing myself... I just don't see the chiefs beating them 

[Steadymobbin 22 10]

Go Birds! 

[Steadymobbin 22 10]

Oof. Y’all don’t post much around here, huh? 

[JagFan 149]

Chiefs are going to win.  That was decided by the NFL preseason.  They want their first three-peat.

[polecatt 474]

2 hours ago, JagFan said:

Chiefs are going to win.  That was decided by the NFL preseason.  They want their first three-peat.

Yep, that will be their avenue to calling Mahomes the GOAT over Brady...

[weepaws 3,149]

5 hours ago, Steadymobbin 22 said:

Oof. Y’all don’t post much around here, huh? 

Says the person with 22 post.  

[kutulu 1,659]

3 hours ago, weepaws said:

Says the person with 22 post.  

Says the person who only quotes the Bible 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[gcmmidwest 149]

All you gurus scared of being wrong ? Who you taking ? I think the eagles are gonna win ... And for all you conspiracy theorists that think the chiefs are getting special privileges... Well if that's what you believe then bet on them

[Drogon 15]

2 hours ago, gcmmidwest said:

All you gurus scared of being wrong ? Who you taking ? I think the eagles are gonna win ... And for all you conspiracy theorists that think the chiefs are getting special privileges... Well if that's what you believe then bet on them

I'm liking the Eagles as well.  Thinking Eagles defense turns Mahomes over a couple times.  And when the KC defense keys on Barkley, Hurts gets loose as well as Brown, Smith and Goedert.

[weepaws 3,149]

I won’t be watching, nor listening to the game, But I would like have KC win, would be great to see a team winning three Super Bowls in a roll.   

[Mike FF Today 721]

Inactives -

Chiefs: OT Wanya Morris, OL C.J. Hanson, OT Ethan Driskell, DE Malik Herring, DE Joshua Uche, CB Steven Nelson, CB Keith Taylor

Eagles: DE Bryce Huff, QB Tanner McKee, CB Eli Ricks, S Lewis Cine, OL Darian Kinnard, G Trevor Keegan, WR Ainias Smith

Line: KC -1.0
Total: 48.5

[kutulu 1,659]

Fock the Chefs 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

We're dissing them 

[Ray_T 739]

wow, world class drop from Hopkins here just before half time

 

[kilroy69 1,215]

Cooper Dejean has to be the first white guy with a pick 6 as a CB in the modern NFL right?

[Bills04 56]

Wow..  First time (ever??) I've turned off the Super Bowl at halftime..  This game is OVER!

[weepaws 3,149]

You think the NFL will find their script writer, so far it looks like the NFL sent the wrong team from the AFC to the Super Bowl.  Shame. 

[Showboat 252]

This may be a dent in Mahomes quest for GOAT.  I don't think Brady ever got blown out in a Super Bowl.  Mahomes now has this effort as well as the loss to the Bucs that was not really competitive.

[Ray_T 739]

this was an old fashioned curb stomping. 

the Iggles fully controlled the line of scrimmage and that has largely been the difference

[weepaws 3,149]

14 minutes ago, Showboat said:

This may be a dent in Mahomes quest for GOAT.  I don't think Brady ever got blown out in a Super Bowl.  Mahomes now has this effort as well as the loss to the Bucs that was not really competitive.

Falcons super bowl would have been the closest, but of course, the goat brought his team back to win it, plus the goat is 1-0 vs Mahomes in super bowl matchup.  

[stratmel 4]

They rubbed them into a grease spot, plain and simple. Fly Eagles Fly!

[nobody 2,557]

Mahomes era is over. 

[kilroy69 1,215]

This is what happens when the NFL props up one team all year long. The chiefs did not belong in the Superbowl. 

[JagFan 149]

At least the Chiefs are free to focus on nuggies and bundles for a while.

[TBayXXXVII 2,480]

11 hours ago, Showboat said:

This may be a dent in Mahomes quest for GOAT.  I don't think Brady ever got blown out in a Super Bowl.  Mahomes now has this effort as well as the loss to the Bucs that was not really competitive.

I called this game after the Pick 6.  I was at my friend's house and pointed to exactly this topic.  In that Super Bowl, Tampa got to Mahomes rushing 4 guys, blitzing as well (because that's what Bowles does), but for the most part, 4 guys.  Mahomes didn't have time to throw the ball because 1) the pass rush got in quickly and the WR's/Kelce were all practically double covered because 4 guys would go out and had 7 covering them.  The only way to combat this from the Chiefs point of view back in 2020 was bring in an extra TE (which didn't happen until the 2nd half), keep the RB in, and basically run Hill deep and Kelce over the middle.  The problem there was that the Bucs were still getting pressure and Mahomes was running around like a chicken without a head.

This year, there was no Tyreek Hill to keep the secondary honest nor was there a competent blocking TE.  The Chief's only resort was to keep the RB and Kelce in and force bad (and old), receivers, to try and beat the best pass defense in the NFL.  The Chiefs never had a chance.  That Pick-6 proved to be the nail in the coffin.  After getting sacked on the first two plays, Mahomes gambled and lost.  It was at that point the Chiefs quit.  They knew they had no answers on offense or defense.

[League Champion 1,896]

On 2/5/2025 at 4:37 PM, cmh6476 said:

Is it Sunday yet?

It's Monday, and a beautiful Monday at that. 

[gcmmidwest 149]

Cashing in my winning tickets .... Like toney toney toney it feels good

[League Champion 1,896]

8 minutes ago, gcmmidwest said:

Cashing in my winning tickets .... Like toney toney toney it feels good

I had:

- Hurts anytime TD

- Eagles +1.5

- Eagles over 23.5 

EASIEST MONEY EVER!!! 

@cmh6476 

 

[Ray_T 739]

1 hour ago, TBayXXXVII said:

I called this game after the Pick 6.  I was at my friend's house and pointed to exactly this topic.  In that Super Bowl, Tampa got to Mahomes rushing 4 guys, blitzing as well (because that's what Bowles does), but for the most part, 4 guys.  Mahomes didn't have time to throw the ball because 1) the pass rush got in quickly and the WR's/Kelce were all practically double covered because 4 guys would go out and had 7 covering them.  The only way to combat this from the Chiefs point of view back in 2020 was bring in an extra TE (which didn't happen until the 2nd half), keep the RB in, and basically run Hill deep and Kelce over the middle.  The problem there was that the Bucs were still getting pressure and Mahomes was running around like a chicken without a head.

This year, there was no Tyreek Hill to keep the secondary honest nor was there a competent blocking TE.  The Chief's only resort was to keep the RB and Kelce in and force bad (and old), receivers, to try and beat the best pass defense in the NFL.  The Chiefs never had a chance.  That Pick-6 proved to be the nail in the coffin.  After getting sacked on the first two plays, Mahomes gambled and lost.  It was at that point the Chiefs quit.  They knew they had no answers on offense or defense.

I saw early that this would be a different game than the previous meeting between these two teams a couple years ago in the superbowl.

one thing I noticed is that in the previous superbowl, the KC passrush pushed up a wall to the right side of Hurts, forcing him to run to the left.    That was significant because Hurts is not nearly as effective rolling to the left as he is when he rolls to the right.

in this game they were not able to do that.  I'll call this the Barkley effect but it could just be better line play(or possibly a bit of both).   My belief is that by playing that strategy in this game, it would make it harder for them to control Barkley at the LOS.    so I noticed Hurts was rolling to the right on numerous occasions throughout the game.  Something that rarely happened the previous time these teams met at Superbowl.

so from that perspective, the Eagles had too much to contain.   Chiefs elected to stop the ground game, and while a noble cause, and they were able to mostly contain him, they were not able to contain the rest of that offense.

I was a bit surprised to see how badly the Chiefs line was manhandled in this game too.  Normally the line has been pretty good.  but that was the story.  They gave Hurts the most outstanding player, but for me the unsung heros were the players on both sides of the line that won the battle in the trenches for Philly

[JagFan 149]

Can we talk about the halftime show?  That little Smurf looking person was singing a lot.  Anyone catch what language he/she was singing in?  

[cmh6476 1,009]

Can we peenie this thread?

[BufordT 425]

On 2/11/2025 at 6:11 PM, cmh6476 said:

Can we peenie this thread?

Speaking of peenie, should the chiefs peenie Matts Nagy?  what's the average chiefs fan opinion of Matt Nagy?  How much blame should he get for this boring chiefs offense the last 2 years?

My opinion, he should've never been hired in the first place.  It might be (starting to wonder) Reid's offense but Nagy is enough of an enigma to stifle elite talent.  He needs to go.

[cmh6476 1,009]

7 minutes ago, BufordT said:

Speaking of peenie, should the chiefs peenie Matts Nagy?  what's the average chiefs fan opinion of Matt Nagy?  How much blame should he get for this boring chiefs offense the last 2 years?

My opinion, he should've never been hired in the first place.  It might be (starting to wonder) Reid's offense but Nagy is enough of an enigma to stifle elite talent.  He needs to go.

I think OC isn't as important in KC with Reid calling the plays.  It was really a talent issue; the Eagles were just a more complete team across the board.  The most glaring issue in the game was at offensive tackle and that the Chiefs couldn't stop the 4-man pressure.  That led to no receivers being open and Mahomes just really not being able to do much of anything.  If the line was doing their job, the rest starts to take care of itself.

So I'm kind of indifferent with what they do with Nagy

[Showboat 252]

On 2/10/2025 at 9:10 AM, TBayXXXVII said:

In that Super Bowl, Tampa got to Mahomes rushing 4 guys, blitzing as well (because that's what Bowles does), but for the most part, 4 guys.  Mahomes didn't have time to throw the ball because 1) the pass rush got in quickly and the WR's/Kelce were all practically double covered because 4 guys would go out and had 7 covering them. 

I think this was a key in the two losses Patriots had to the Giants.  The Giants were generally able to pressure Brady with 4.  The difference being that the Pats D was able to keep it close and Brady made enough plays to win if not for miraculous helmet catches and such.

[TBayXXXVII 2,480]

Just now, Showboat said:

I think this was a key in the two losses Patriots had to the Giants.  The Giants were generally able to pressure Brady with 4.  The difference being that the Pats D was able to keep it close and Brady made enough plays to win if not for miraculous helmet catches and such.

Even in a league where passing is made easier, a good pass rush will trump a great QB.

[League Champion 1,896]

21 hours ago, cmh6476 said:

I think OC isn't as important in KC with Reid calling the plays.  It was really a talent issue; the Eagles were just a more complete team across the board.  The most glaring issue in the game was at offensive tackle and that the Chiefs couldn't stop the 4-man pressure.  That led to no receivers being open and Mahomes just really not being able to do much of anything.  If the line was doing their job, the rest starts to take care of itself.

So I'm kind of indifferent with what they do with Nagy

Here's where I disagree. It was a jail break from the very beginning. Reid and the OC did absolutely nothing to combat that. Why didn't they use more 2 TE sets to block, why didn't they do more designed jet sweeps to Worthy or more screens?? They did absolutely nothing to slow down the Philly pass rush. It was the same formations over and over. 

[Ray_T 739]

6 hours ago, League Champion said:

Here's where I disagree. It was a jail break from the very beginning. Reid and the OC did absolutely nothing to combat that. Why didn't they use more 2 TE sets to block, why didn't they do more designed jet sweeps to Worthy or more screens?? They did absolutely nothing to slow down the Philly pass rush. It was the same formations over and over. 

in the past, Mahomes has been able to step up his play to get away from the rush so I think if there was one fault it was that Reid believed in his guy.

its also a case where if you use another TE to block, the other side can rush with another person so its not always as easy as that.   but the 'chip' block from the TE or the RB as they leave to go out for a pass certainly could have been done more often to assist the Tackles. 

in the end, it was mostly an inability to protect Mahomes and solid coverage that really made the sledding tough for the KC offense.   You also need to give credit to Philly.  They had a good game plan and they executed.

[League Champion 1,896]

On 2/14/2025 at 2:06 PM, Ray_T said:

in the past, Mahomes has been able to step up his play to get away from the rush so I think if there was one fault it was that Reid believed in his guy.

its also a case where if you use another TE to block, the other side can rush with another person so its not always as easy as that.   but the 'chip' block from the TE or the RB as they leave to go out for a pass certainly could have been done more often to assist the Tackles. 

in the end, it was mostly an inability to protect Mahomes and solid coverage that really made the sledding tough for the KC offense.   You also need to give credit to Philly.  They had a good game plan and they executed.

If you watch the tape, the Eagles DEs were upright the whole time. They never even went into their stance. They were eating every play. Reid did nothing to combat it

[gcmmidwest 149]

Lost respect for the eagles very unamerican to decline a Whitehouse visit