Hardworking Americans speaking out against Republicans

[supermike80 1,803]

Just now, Cdub100 said:

Yes people are very angry. I see both sides.

There is a lot of waste. I tried to fire someone last year but ultimately they moved her to a different dept. Another guy took the buyout before I could process his paperwork. These are people who have been working in this office I was moved to for years. I was moved to try and clean it up, but Doge might do a lot of that for me.

That being said the vast majority of people I work with are good people who do their job. They are people with families, bills, and homes. All these people losing their jobs will hurt their local economy. It will have trickle-down effects. 

I also see why trimming the fat is a good thing. 

I have plenty of service time and have only ever received top ratings. I am not worried, but I could get caught in a larger net so I'm not 100% safe.

I absolutely hate when anyone loses their job.  I am in no way celebrating this bloodletting.  These are real people with real bills and lives.   I hate to see it honestly.  I feel less bad about those that are just getting paid and milking it.  And they are out there.   And I am positive some people who are being let go are decent hard working people who don't deserve this.  It sucks

[TrailGuy 552]

1 minute ago, The Real timschochet said:

And another thoughtful and well-meaning post. 

Now that a Maga is saying the same thing the "lefties" have been saying, the rest of the Magas fall in line. 

[Cdub100 3,838]

1 minute ago, supermike80 said:

I absolutely hate when anyone loses their job.  I am in no way celebrating this bloodletting.  These are real people with real bills and lives.   I hate to see it honestly.  I feel less bad about those that are just getting paid and milking it.  And they are out there.   And I am positive some people who are being let go are decent hard working people who don't deserve this.  It sucks

Me too, but IMO you have to use a meat cleaver in this situation. Any other way will take too long and not get the desired outcome. 

[supermike80 1,803]

1 minute ago, TrailGuy said:

Now that a Maga is saying the same thing the "lefties" have been saying, the rest of the Magas fall in line. 

You said nothing like this at all.  You just emotionally ranted.  Once someone brought intelligence to this discussion, some of us agreed.  That's what intelligent people do.   Not emotional babies.

[supermike80 1,803]

Just now, Cdub100 said:

Me too, but IMO you have to use a meat cleaver in this situation. Any other way will take too long and not get the desired outcome. 

Well.......I have said here I am not comfortable with the sledgehammer approach.  Just because I feel that approach shows it might not be well thought out.   But there is a flip side to this of course.   

[Cdub100 3,838]

2 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

Now that a Maga is saying the same thing the "lefties" have been saying, the rest of the Magas fall in line. 

I'm not MAGA or conservitive. I'm a very far right. So far right some of my views are left.

I have said before Trump is too liberal for me. 

[CaptainObvious1 325]

11 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I have to admit that your two posts make an awful lot of sense here. I can tell you are speaking here with knowledge, authority and thoughtfulness. 
 

It bothers me that someone with your obvious intelligence could be a virulent anti-Semite. I shouldn’t care but I do. I wish you would apply your thinking skills to that area of your beliefs as well. 

Shut up.  There's no reason to inject the Jew stuff into this thread.  None at all.

[Cdub100 3,838]

1 minute ago, supermike80 said:

Well.......I have said here I am not comfortable with the sledgehammer approach.  Just because I feel that approach shows it might not be well thought out.   But there is a flip side to this of course.   

I agree it hasn't been thought out very well. I mean how can it? The bureaucracy is complex for a reason. There are laws and policies on top of other laws and policies. It's very complex. 

[supermike80 1,803]

Just now, Cdub100 said:

I agree it hasn't been thought out very well. I mean how can it? The bureaucracy is complex for a reason. There are laws and policies on top of other laws and policies. It's very complex. 

This is probably useless coming from me against your experience actually inside it.   But I would have wanted Trump to announce a review of all departments, publicly.  Put everyone on notice.  Evaluate for whatever, 90 days? 6 Months?  Then start the cuts.  With backup to properly document the double work, the waste etc.   

Maybe that's impossible in today's gubbermint

[Hardcore troubadour 14,934]

The cut worm forgives the plow. 

[TrailGuy 552]

9 minutes ago, supermike80 said:

You said nothing like this at all.  You just emotionally ranted.  Once someone brought intelligence to this discussion, some of us agreed.  That's what intelligent people do.   Not emotional babies.

 

1 hour ago, Red White and Blue said:

Does HR at your company ask you to submit that list? Does your company have a billionaire subcontractor go on Twitter who threatens to fire you if you don’t? 

 

4 hours ago, TrailGuy said:

Anyone that thinks this was a legitimate request for information is dumb.  This is just harassment and intimidation.

 

2 hours ago, TrailGuy said:

I've never gotten an email from someone outside of my company over a weekend asking me what I did last week and my lack of reply was a resignation.

If you can't see how that's messed up then you're the problem.

 

[Cdub100 3,838]

Just now, supermike80 said:

This is probably useless coming from me against your experience actually inside it.   But I would have wanted Trump to announce a review of all departments, publicly.  Put everyone on notice.  Evaluate for whatever, 90 days? 6 Months?  Then start the cuts.  With backup to properly document the double work, the waste etc.   

Maybe that's impossible in today's gubbermint

Obama actually attempted to do that. The reason it doesn't work is that over that time frame, everyone gets an exception.  

Federal employees are good for the local economy. Those economies reside in congressmen's and senators' districts. People losing jobs in their districts is bad for their re-election campaigns so they fight to keep them.

After it's all said and done nobody gets cut and often the bureaucracy gets bigger.

Trump DNGAF he's not up for reelection. He wants to cut so he's taking a meat clever to everything. By the time all the lawsuits get settled, sure some will get hired back but most will have moved on.

[Cdub100 3,838]

4 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

The cut worm forgives the plow. 

My wife asked me last night if I would vote for Trump again and I said yes.

[jonnyutah 248]

It is no secret people have no stomach for cuts. It is why spending is where it is at. Screw those people. We need more and more cuts. This isnt sustainable. Soon we will pay one trillion a year in interest payments. 

[iam90sbaby 2,489]

If liberals are mad it’s probably good for the country, that’s a good enough North Star for me 

[supermike80 1,803]

17 minutes ago, TrailGuy said:

 

 

 

 

Yeah like i said.  Nothing. Cdub brought a reasoned eeply.  You rambled on like a child with no substance to it

[easilyscan 863]

https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-fired-after-forgetting-to-reply-to-elons-email

[TBayXXXVII 2,483]

4 minutes ago, easilyscan said:

https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-fired-after-forgetting-to-reply-to-elons-email

[Mike Honcho 5,097]

3 hours ago, Strike said:

This is too much to ask??

 

Maybe people have an issue that if you don't do it, it amounts to forced resignation, which is illegal.  

[supermike80 1,803]

23 minutes ago, easilyscan said:

https://babylonbee.com/news/trump-fired-after-forgetting-to-reply-to-elons-email

Ok now thats the funniest thing ive seen in a while

[Strike 5,186]

1 minute ago, Mike Honcho said:

Maybe people have an issue that if you don't do it, it amounts to forced resignation, which is illegal.  

Then those people can sue, right?

[Horseman 2,365]

We found out that a bunch of crybabies work for the government.   

[Mike Honcho 5,097]

3 hours ago, TheNewGirl said:

Yeah, I don't believe you. 

If it came from OPM but Biden's appointee was directing it, there wouldn't be this outrage. 

Surely if you believe it, it must be true, just like when you said the Dems wouldn't certify the election if Trump won.  At least this time you are safe in making this statement since it can't be put to the test. 

[EternalShinyAndChrome 3,833]

5 hours ago, The Real timschochet said:

Trump’s numbers have gone down, but not to a number that should alarm his supporters. @Hawkeye21 is correct that it’s early yet. He and @jerryskids and @supermike80 are also correct that the public isn’t going to have a problem with the DOGE cuts, despite the haphazard way they’re being done: people like efficiency efforts and they’re willing to tolerate job losses to get there.

That being said, the public WILL eventually turn against Trump if prices don’t come down, and if they start to rise that will be sooner rather than later. Trump has some time here to accomplish this but if prices are still high a year from now Republicans will likely lose the House Majority, possibly the Senate as well. 

And there will be backlash over these DOGE cuts IF they start to directly negatively affect the public. So far that hasn’t happened, but it could. 

Thanks for confirming tha the number one topic for voters is always the economy, stupid.

It's not dei. It's not abortion. It's not trannies. It's not metoo.  It's not p**** hats. It's not whatever cause of the day the left has come up with. 

It's always about the economy and always will be.  You preaching to the choir when it's conservatives. We've always known that. It's your side of the aisle that needs to hear it from you.

[TrailGuy 552]

5 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said:

Surely if you believe it, it must be true, just like when you said the Dems wouldn't certify the election if Trump won.  At least this time you are safe in making this statement since it can't be put to the test. 

[Tebok 312]

1 hour ago, Cdub100 said:

Me too, but IMO you have to use a meat cleaver in this situation. Any other way will take too long and not get the desired outcome. 

I think this approach is reckless, not good optics to build public trust. 

And all those hard-working, experienced and knowledgeable civil workers just getting tossed like that.

 

[Cdub100 3,838]

2 minutes ago, Tebok said:

I think this approach is reckless, not good optics to build public trust. 

And all those hard-working, experienced and knowledgeable civil workers just getting tossed like that.

 

I don't disagree, but I understand why they are doing it this way. 

[Cdub100 3,838]

Since I'm home with a sick kid today and didn't respond to the email. I guess I'm fired.

https://x.com/iam_smx/status/1894098449726930953

[Strike 5,186]

2 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Since I'm home with a sick kid today and didn't respond to the email. I guess I'm fired.

https://x.com/iam_smx/status/1894098449726930953

The world needs ditch diggers, too!!!

[Cdub100 3,838]

Just now, Strike said:

The world needs ditch diggers, too!!!

Do you think I'm qualified to handle heavy machinery and tools? I'm not so sure.

[Tebok 312]

6 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

I don't disagree, but I understand why they are doing it this way. 

Yeah, as a big display for the MAGAs. When you toss employees and then scramble to hire them back, that doesn't look competent and well thought out. 

I'm all for smaller government, but this should be surgical and not a hammer.

[Tebok 312]

5 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Since I'm home with a sick kid today and didn't respond to the email. I guess I'm fired.

https://x.com/iam_smx/status/1894098449726930953

So you're losing your job?

[Cdub100 3,838]

Just now, Tebok said:

Yeah, as a big display for the MAGAs. When you toss employees and then scramble to hire them back, that doesn't look competent and well thought out. 

I'm all for smaller government, but this should be surgical and not a hammer.

I've already said it looks disorganized. But that's because Elon and the trumps cabinet are not in sync.

But that (in general) is how these mass layoffs go. You cut too much and then hire people back. 

[Cdub100 3,838]

1 minute ago, Tebok said:

So you're losing your job?

Maybe. Probably not. 

 

I kinda hope so. But won't.

[Fnord 2,051]

10 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

Maybe. Probably not. 

 

I kinda hope so. But won't.

Honestly hope for the best for you here, hate to see people get fired without cause.

But in your case, all you'll have to do is point to some of your posts here and they will hire you back, likely with better pay and less responsibility. You're a loyal conservative that likes it when libs cry. That is all the qualification you need.

[Red White and Blue 81]

It would probably look better if the admin wasn’t proposing tax cuts at the same time they’re laying people off. And if their approach to layoffs wasn’t mass emails urging people to quit and some billionaire dooshnozzle Tweeting about it. And if the guy spearheading the effort wasn’t Trump’s top donor and a gov’t contractor who just fired inspector generals who were investigating his businesses. 

Total clown shoes, highly embarrassing.  

[Cdub100 3,838]

11 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Honestly hope for the best for you here, hate to see people get fired without cause.

But in your case, all you'll have to do is point to some of your posts here and they will hire you back, likely with better pay and less responsibility. You're a loyal conservative that likes it when libs cry. That is all the qualification you need.

I'm not a conservative.

[jerryskids 6,566]

3 hours ago, Red White and Blue said:

You’re right, his billionaire status isn’t nearly as relevant as the fact that he’s a government contractor and Don’s top donor. It’s the conflicts of interest that matter.

I’ll note that instead going forward.  

So you changed from white flag to saying I'm right, and you'll move on to the next distraction from the MSM.

A person of Musk's stature, with a company that launches rockets, is inevitably going to run into some perceived conflicts of interest.  When he uses your and TrailGuy's retirement funds to cut himself a check, let me know.

3 hours ago, Fnord said:

So instead of "billionaire Elon Musk" he shall now be referred to as "walking, talking, spastic conflict of interest named Elon Musk."

Can we insert "alleged neo-nazi sympathizer" in there somewhere? We might need an acronym, this is getting a little wordy.

If you need another, here is one.  Neo nazi! 

Young engineer posted racist stuff!  Constitution!  Not elected! Billionaire!

[Tebok 312]

17 minutes ago, Red White and Blue said:

It would probably look better if the admin wasn’t proposing tax cuts at the same time they’re laying people off. And if their approach to layoffs wasn’t mass emails urging people to quit and some billionaire dooshnozzle Tweeting about it. And if the guy spearheading the effort wasn’t Trump’s top donor and a gov’t contractor who just fired inspector generals who were investigating his businesses. 

Total clown shoes, highly embarrassing.  

Not only Tweeting about it but showing huge disrespect for his chainsaw antics on stage. 

Totally classless.

[Dizkneelande 1,085]

1 hour ago, Strike said:

Then those people can sue, right?

I’m pretty sure they are weeding out the people that do so little, they don’t even check their email. This is a 3 minute ask.