Israel attacks Iran UPDATE: Trump claims a cease fire among all countries

[The Real timschochet 6,765]

3 minutes ago, Strike said:

And that's not true.  As has been shown repeatedly over the last few days on this bored, Iran wasn't adhering to that deal.  And even if they had been, the deal had loopholes in it that allowed them to skirt it.  That's WHY Trump walked away from it.  A deal with no teeth isn't worth sh*t.

I don’t agree with you. I thought at the time, and still do, that it was a good agreement. 

[supermike80 1,911]

2 minutes ago, Strike said:

The head of NATO, no fan of Trump, sent him a note telling him how GREAT it was and that it made the world SAFER.  But Gutterboy and CNN know better.  

 

Also, no americans hurt or killed.  Sometimes it seems some posters here almost wish that to not be true so they could go after Trump more.  What a world these days 

[thegeneral 3,214]

Just now, supermike80 said:

We flew in and out of Iran, completely undetected, dropped a boatload of 30,000 bombs, and people are calling this a failure? 

The B2 and our military are some bad mofos. They should be for the price tag, but good to see it in action.

Not sure the failure talk but these reports of the uranium was moved, is now missing, that the program may only be set back a few months hopefully are inaccurate. I don’t trust Trump’s version of events. Questioning of this isn’t rooting for Iran or for it to be a failure, that Trump paints it this way is typical BS from him. 

[supermike80 1,911]

Just now, thegeneral said:

The B2 and our military are some bad mofos. They should be for the price tag, but good to see it in action.

Not sure the failure talk but these reports of the uranium was moved, is now missing, that the program may only be set back a few months hopefully are inaccurate. I don’t trust Trump’s version of events. Questioning of this isn’t rooting for Iran or for it to be a failure, that Trump paints it this way is typical BS from him. 

Weve had posters call the whole thing a failure. Sorry no.

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

Within weeks of signing that great deal with Obama Iran began testing ballistic missiles. HT Farms remembers.  

[Strike 5,547]

2 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

I don’t agree with you. I thought at the time, and still do, that it was a good agreement. 

ROFLMAO.  I don't care what you THINK.   The agreement was crap, and Iran wasn't even adhering to it.  But like Iraq before we took Saddam out, no one was doing anything about it.  Obama and Biden were giving Iran pallets of money on top of doing nothing about it.  If we had continued down that road the end result would have been a nuclear Iran.  Trump took care of that.  And like Colonel Jessup, you should just thank him and STFU.  You need him on that wall.

[MDC 7,428]

If Trump is right and Iran was weeks away from nuclear weapons, why does dangerously incompetent Tuldi Gabbard still have a job as US intelligence director?  

[thegeneral 3,214]

1 minute ago, supermike80 said:

Weve had posters call the whole thing a failure. Sorry no.

I don’t agree with that. Many parts were a success. How much, what we did is still being determined. It’s ok to ask and especially to question Trump because he’s, you know full of shet often.

[seafoam1 3,025]

Just now, supermike80 said:

We flew in and out of Iran, completely undetected, dropped a boatload of 30,000 bombs, and people are calling this a failure? 

Yes. I listened to 3 minutes of liberal radio today and learned that the Iran bombing by US of those 3 nuclear sites was simply a set up orchestrated show of pride between the two countries. Same for when Iran fired back afterwards at US troops in Qatar..

And all it did was embolden Russia.

And no one in the world likes negotiating with Trump.

It was a very special learning 3 minutes time for me. 

 

[supermike80 1,911]

1 minute ago, thegeneral said:

I don’t agree with that. Many parts were a success. How much, what we did is still being determined. It’s ok to ask and especially to question Trump because he’s, you know full of shet often.

Fair. But just a few posts earlier, a poster said Trump failed bigly.  So theres that

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

So we get to bomb them some more? Yippee kay- A mutha fuckas ! 

[Strike 5,547]

The libs keep talking about the IAEA.  Here is the head of the IAEA from earlier today:

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6374826084112

[thegeneral 3,214]

16 minutes ago, Strike said:

The libs keep talking about the IAEA.  Here is the head of the IAEA from earlier today:

https://www.foxnews.com/video/6374826084112

They do seem to be the experts that people reference for Iran’s nuke activities. They reported Iran in compliance with Obama’s deal across several benchmarks in 2018. Then we backed out and it all started going sideways.. 

[Strike 5,547]

Just now, thegeneral said:

They do seem to be the experts that people reference for Iran’s nuke activities. They reported Iran in compliance with Obama’s deal across several benchmarks in 2018. Then we backed out and it all started going sideways.. 

Your own article proves the deal was crap.  You can keep repeating the same B.S. but it doesn't make the world any safer as Trump and Israel have.  

[Hardcore troubadour 15,433]

11 hours ago, TBayXXXVII said:

 

I heard on the radio about the 1500, but what I heard them say was that about half were released into the US.

 

First link on Google.

(you know this was a liberal website, because they rounded down... mathematically, in this case, they're right.)

Tim still isn’t interested for some reason. 

[thegeneral 3,214]

1 minute ago, Strike said:

Your own article proves the deal was crap.  You can keep repeating the same B.S. but it doesn't make the world any safer as Trump and Israel have.  

Not sure what article you are referencing.

Here’s a direct excerpt from the IAEA’s GOV/2018/47 report from November 2018 titled “Verification and monitoring in the Islamic Republic of Iran in light of United Nations Security Council resolution 2231 (2015)”

“Since 16 January 2016 (JCPOA Implementation Day), the Agency has verified and monitored Iran’s implementation of its nuclear‑related commitments in accordance with the modalities set out in the JCPOA… The Agency continues to verify the non‑diversion of declared nuclear material at the nuclear facilities and locations outside facilities where nuclear material is customarily used (LOFs) declared by Iran under its Safeguards Agreement. Evaluations regarding the absence of undeclared nuclear material and activities for Iran remained ongoing.” 

This passage encapsulates the IAEA’s clear conclusion as of late 2018: Iran was complying with its nuclear-related obligations, and the agency continued working to ensure no undeclared nuclear activities were underway.

Benchmarks from that report:

“At the Fuel Enrichment Plant (FEP) at Natanz, no more than 5 060 IR‑1 centrifuges installed in 30 cascades, which remain in the configurations in the operating units at the time the JCPOA was agreed.” 

This confirms Iran did not exceed the limit of 5,060 first-generation centrifuges.

Iran has continued the enrichment of UF₆ at FEP. Iran has not enriched uranium above 3.67 % U‑235 (para. 28).” 

This certifies that enrichment levels stayed within JCPOA’s 3.67% ceiling.

Throughout the reporting period, Iran’s total enriched uranium stockpile has not exceeded 300 kg of UF₆ enriched up to 3.67 % U‑235…” 

Demonstrating compliance with the stockpile cap of 300 kg.

At the Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant (FFEP), no more than 1 044 IR‑1 centrifuges have been maintained in one wing… Throughout the reporting period, Iran has not conducted any uranium enrichment or related research and development … and there has not been any nuclear material at the plant.” 

This shows Fordow remained non-enriching and under the agreed configuration.”

 

 

[Strike 5,547]

4 minutes ago, thegeneral said:

Not sure what article you are referencing.

Here’s a direct excerpt from the IAEA’s GOV/2018/47 report from November 2018 titled “Verification and monitoring in the Islamic Republic of Iran in light of United Nations Security Council resolution 2231 (2015)”

“Since 16 January 2016 (JCPOA Implementation Day), the Agency has verified and monitored Iran’s implementation of its nuclear‑related commitments in accordance with the modalities set out in the JCPOA… The Agency continues to verify the non‑diversion of declared nuclear material at the nuclear facilities and locations outside facilities where nuclear material is customarily used (LOFs) declared by Iran under its Safeguards Agreement. Evaluations regarding the absence of undeclared nuclear material and activities for Iran remained ongoing.” 

This passage encapsulates the IAEA’s clear conclusion as of late 2018: Iran was complying with its nuclear-related obligations, and the agency continued working to ensure no undeclared nuclear activities were underway.

Benchmarks from that report:

“At the Fuel Enrichment Plant (FEP) at Natanz, no more than 5 060 IR‑1 centrifuges installed in 30 cascades, which remain in the configurations in the operating units at the time the JCPOA was agreed.” 

This confirms Iran did not exceed the limit of 5,060 first-generation centrifuges.

Iran has continued the enrichment of UF₆ at FEP. Iran has not enriched uranium above 3.67 % U‑235 (para. 28).” 

This certifies that enrichment levels stayed within JCPOA’s 3.67% ceiling.

Throughout the reporting period, Iran’s total enriched uranium stockpile has not exceeded 300 kg of UF₆ enriched up to 3.67 % U‑235…” 

Demonstrating compliance with the stockpile cap of 300 kg.

At the Fordow Fuel Enrichment Plant (FFEP), no more than 1 044 IR‑1 centrifuges have been maintained in one wing… Throughout the reporting period, Iran has not conducted any uranium enrichment or related research and development … and there has not been any nuclear material at the plant.” 

This shows Fordow remained non-enriching and under the agreed configuration.”

 

 

It's an article you posted so I'm sorry you don't remember it.  Not my fault.  As I said repeatedly including earlier I believe in this thread tonight even if one thinks that they were adhering to the deal the deal sucked.  The end result of that deal would still have been a nuclear Iran.  So you can cling to that notion but I don't care.

[thegeneral 3,214]

Just now, Strike said:

It's an article you posted so I'm sorry you don't remember it.  Not my fault.  As I said repeatedly including earlier I believe in this thread tonight even if one thinks that they were adhering to the deal the deal sucked.  The end result of that deal would still have been a nuclear Iran.  So you can cling to that notion but I don't care.

I think you are mistaken. I’m not sure what article you are talking about. 

In any case the previous post I made is taken from the 2018 report from the group you just used in your link

They said Iran was in compliance in 2018.

[Gepetto 1,368]

1 hour ago, seafoam1 said:

Trump is really focking up the heads of liberals with all this winning. 

Wow, this is going to be another great 4 years. Make the Geek Club Great Again!  MGCGA! #WINNING

[Gepetto 1,368]

1 hour ago, supermike80 said:

We flew in and out of Iran, completely undetected, dropped a boatload of 30,000 bombs, and people are calling this a failure? 

Exactly! USA Air Force complete success, even a fictional movie Top Gun Maverick didn't come close to real life.

[seafoam1 3,025]

15 minutes ago, Gepetto said:

Exactly! USA Air Force complete success, even a fictional movie Top Gun Maverick didn't come close to real life.

That's a good way of putting it. If this Trump military strike reality were a movie, it would be boring as hell. "Oh, you planned it, and pulled it off with no drama? No one was in any danger?  Boring..." 

Now let's make an hysterical soap opera drama about how the liberals are freaking out trying to desperately find something to bltch about. That show, would bring the liberals running to watch. 

 

[Ron_Artest 1,533]

WE OBLITERATED THEIR NUCLEAR PROGRAM!

No actually we didn't.

FAIL

[seafoam1 3,025]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

WE OBLITERATED THEIR NUCLEAR PROGRAM!

No actually we didn't.

FAIL

Dang. Gutterboy is dumb.

[listen2me 23 1,873]

4 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

WE OBLITERATED THEIR NUCLEAR PROGRAM!

No actually we didn't.

FAIL

This concluded his days work.  What a marathon.  

[Maximum Overkill 1,989]

5 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

No actually we didn't.

FAIL

Is that what Rachel Maddow told you?  

[Ron_Artest 1,533]

49 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

Is that what Rachel Maddow told you?  

No it's what the Pentagon told me.  We did not obliterate their nuclear program.  They still have the uranium and a large number of centrifuges and they stated they will continue with their program.

As the general stated, the IAEA states that Iran was in compliance in 2018 before trump pulled out of the deal, then they ramped up the program.  He has to fix that.  Military strikes haven't worked so far.  Will it be more strikes, an invasion, or diplomacy?  Or will he just walk away and declare victory.

Hopefully trump fixes this but the world is not any safer now than we were 2 weeks ago 

[listen2me 23 1,873]

This kid dont sleep.  Gutter about to put another 20 hour day in.  

[Ron_Artest 1,533]

In true trump fashion, he is doubling down on his lies.  Never admit you are wrong, never apologize, if you lie enough they will believe it.

Trump going with TOTAL OBLITERATION regardless of evidence.  Said this morning Iran will never be bad actors again.  Anyone who knows Iran knows this is not true so we're in a situation where Iran will continue to build the Bomb with more urgency than ever and we will deny it.  Very dangerous.

As someone who is rooting for America this is not good for America.

[avoiding injuries 1,580]

I’m surprised to check in and still see this dude rooting against America. 

[BrahmaBulls 764]

1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

In true trump fashion, he is doubling down on his lies.  Never admit you are wrong, never apologize, if you lie enough they will believe it.

Trump going with TOTAL OBLITERATION regardless of evidence.  Said this morning Iran will never be bad actors again.  Anyone who knows Iran knows this is not true so we're in a situation where Iran will continue to build the Bomb with more urgency than ever and we will deny it.  Very dangerous.

As someone who is rooting for America this is not good for America.

Right on cue

[EternalShinyAndChrome 4,106]

6 minutes ago, BrahmaBulls said:

Right on cue

"As someone who is rooting for America..." 

Dude had to specifically insert that because he knows how anti-American he sounds, so is now trying to gaslight everyone. 

[supermike80 1,911]

24 minutes ago, EternalShinyAndChrome said:

"As someone who is rooting for America..." 

Dude had to specifically insert that because he knows how anti-American he sounds, so is now trying to gaslight everyone. 

I won't say he hates America.  That's a stretch.  But he hates Trump, enough to openly root for his failure, even if it means it's damaging to America.  Not quite the same thing, but it sure is close.

[RLLD 4,230]

3 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

In true trump fashion, he is doubling down on his lies.  Never admit you are wrong, never apologize, if you lie enough they will believe it.

Trump going with TOTAL OBLITERATION regardless of evidence.  Said this morning Iran will never be bad actors again.  Anyone who knows Iran knows this is not true so we're in a situation where Iran will continue to build the Bomb with more urgency than ever and we will deny it.  Very dangerous.

As someone who is rooting for America this is not good for America.

 I mean, yeah, in this regard he would be your average politician.  Not that it matters.  We should expect this from any and all of them.

Outcomes are what matter. 

[squistion 2,202]

3 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

In true trump fashion, he is doubling down on his lies.  Never admit you are wrong, never apologize, if you lie enough they will believe it.

Trump going with TOTAL OBLITERATION regardless of evidence.  Said this morning Iran will never be bad actors again.  Anyone who knows Iran knows this is not true so we're in a situation where Iran will continue to build the Bomb with more urgency than ever and we will deny it.  Very dangerous.

As someone who is rooting for America this is not good for America.

 

[seafoam1 3,025]

58 minutes ago, squistion said:

 

Chris Murphy. 

The guy who first came out and said hunter's laptop was Russian disinformation. 

Focking liberals never fail to amuse. 

[Ron_Artest 1,533]

1 hour ago, supermike80 said:

I won't say he hates America.  That's a stretch.  But he hates Trump, enough to openly root for his failure, even if it means it's damaging to America.  Not quite the same thing, but it sure is close.

I do hate trump but I love America.  90% of what Trump does is damaging to America.

[Ron_Artest 1,533]

Trump and team sticking with the "Obliterated" line.  Saying the initial reports are fake news, and questioning the success of the strike is an insult to the pilots that flew the mission.  So stupid and childish.

[Ron_Artest 1,533]

Trump today appears to have lifted sanctions against Iran, stating that China should buy oil from Iran in order to rebuild the country.

He's definitely going all in on "Obliteration" and letting Iran rebuild.

[nobody 2,673]

15 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

Where did I say that Iran isn't building nukes?  What I said was US intel said it wasn't happening.  I would chatgpt it but I don't chatgpt my opinions anymore since you caught me.

And no I'm not rooting against America.  I want a strong, free and wealthy America.  Getting into a war with Iran doesn't help that.

You're clearly rooting against trump.  Trump is the president of the US, gutter.

[Ron_Artest 1,533]

2 minutes ago, nobody said:

You're clearly rooting against trump.  Trump is the president of the US, gutter.

Trump is hurting the US, so yes of course I'm rooting against him.