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I do not support wars.  

Unfortunately the ME is an area inhibited by animals.  They will never coexist.  So its a lost cause really.  The whole area needs a reset for there to ever be any real peace.   

Israel doesnt F around.  And Iran has a long standing way of sending out terrorist proxy groups to create chaos and try to hide behind it a bit.  Iran teaches kids out of the womb to hate anything west. They will place guns in their hands before they are old enough to go to school.  They will let kids watch public hangings as if they are savages from 1000 years ago.   

Perhaps if there wasnt Hamas then Palestinians could live in relative peace next door.  Perhaps if there wasnt Hezbollah, Lebanon could be a legit country.  If there wasnt Houthis perhaps naval travel wouldnt be wrongly intimidated.  

It sounds like I am giving Israel a pass.  No they are crazy too.  But the way ME Islamic countries have operated for years is the root of the issue.  They give zero shlts about their people.  They support terrorism.  They are intolerant of most.  They dont want peace and never have.   You cant fight these factions in a traditional way.  Because they are cowards who will take from their people and use them as shields.   Many of these countries remind me of a whining kid that pokes a kid then runs away.  Tattletales on them if any retaliation.   You know the shlt starters who act all innocent.  Countries like Iran will poke you and poke you.  Then when retaliation comes and a civilian is killed, the tables quickly turn on Israel and they are to blame.  There is no fighting these people without civilian death.  You either sit next door with restraint while these people kidnap/bomb/stab/rape your people every so often....or you dont.  Sucks but there isnt somr magic way of dealing with them that is a ton better.  

I have met several great people who are ME born Islamics.  But until the leaders over there die, they will never get out of the brainwashed cycle that never ends with authoritarian/barbarian rule.  Not the ones living there anyway.  

There is no right answer on how to handle the problems over there and hasnt been for a long time.  

Hopefully Israel hits them hard enough early that it forces Iran to want a ceasefire and agreement.  But again, we know how those cowards operate.  They will just wait a while conjuring up something to start conflict again.  Like snakes in the grass.  

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2 minutes ago, listen2me 23 said:

I do not support wars.  

Unfortunately the ME is an area inhibited by animals.  They will never coexist.  So its a lost cause really.  The whole area needs a reset for there to ever be any real peace.   

Israel doesnt F around.  And Iran has a long standing way of sending out terrorist proxy groups to create chaos and try to hide behind it a bit.  Iran teaches kids out of the womb to hate anything west. They will place guns in their hands before they are old enough to go to school.  They will let kids watch public hangings as if they are savages from 1000 years ago.   

Perhaps if there wasnt Hamas then Palestinians could live in relative peace next door.  Perhaps if there wasnt Hezbollah, Lebanon could be a legit country.  If there wasnt Houthis perhaps naval travel wouldnt be wrongly intimidated.  

It sounds like I am giving Israel a pass.  No they are crazy too.  But the way ME Islamic countries have operated for years is the root of the issue.  They give zero shlts about their people.  They support terrorism.  They are intolerant of most.  They dont want peace and never have.   You cant fight these factions in a traditional way.  Because they are cowards who will take from their people and use them as shields.   Many of these countries remind me of a whining kid that pokes a kid then runs away.  Tattletales on them if any retaliation.   You know the shlt starters who act all innocent.  Countries like Iran will poke you and poke you.  Then when retaliation comes and a civilian is killed, the tables quickly turn on Israel and they are to blame.  There is no fighting these people without civilian death.  You either sit next door with restraint while these people kidnap/bomb/stab/rape your people every so often....or you dont.  Sucks but there isnt somr magic way of dealing with them that is a ton better.  

I have met several great people who are ME born Islamics.  But until the leaders over there die, they will never get out of the brainwashed cycle that never ends with authoritarian/barbarian rule.  Not the ones living there anyway.  

There is no right answer on how to handle the problems over there and hasnt been for a long time.  

Hopefully Israel hits them hard enough early that it forces Iran to want a ceasefire and agreement.  But again, we know how those cowards operate.  They will just wait a while conjuring up something to start conflict again.  Like snakes in the grass.  

Israel teaches babies in the womb that anyone not Israeli or Jewish is below them. Then they set up proxies made up of Muslims to do their bidding.

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23 minutes ago, League Champion said:

Trump warns everyone to evacuate Tehran immediately,  leaves the G7 Summit. 

All hell is about to break loose 

Nuclear detection craft also flying around the US.

Israel's iron dome is failing. Nobody really knows what's going on besides Trump and a few others.

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7 minutes ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

Nuclear detection craft also flying around the US.

Israel's iron dome is failing. Nobody really knows what's going on besides Trump and a few others.

China orders citizens to evacuate Israel immediately 

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Donald in 2024

“They can't have a nuclear weapon. It's very simple. They can't have a nuclear weapon. You cannot let Iran have a nuclear weapon.”

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11 hours ago, Strike said:

Damn, looks like I'm a prophet and @The Real timschochet is wrong again.  😂

And for fun, watch the moment Israel Bombs Iran's state TV while it's live:

https://x.com/Breaking911/status/1934631525854896531

Yeah I understood you right the first time. It’s a horrible comparison. Iran can’t match Israel in bombing or drones. But we followed up bombing Iraq with an invasion which toppled Saddam Hussein. Israel can’t do that, nor can they completely destroy the Iranian nuclear program, so I’m not quite sure what they’re going to achieve here. Which is why your comparison was so asinine. 

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45 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Yeah I understood you right the first time. It’s a horrible comparison. Iran can’t match Israel in bombing or drones. But we followed up bombing Iraq with an invasion which toppled Saddam Hussein. Israel can’t do that, nor can they completely destroy the Iranian nuclear program, so I’m not quite sure what they’re going to achieve here. Which is why your comparison was so asinine. 

What they are trying to achieve, and have some varying probability of success of achieving any of these, is to weaken Iran and their defenses to the point the U.S. will use the bunker buster bombs to clean up the nuclear sites with little to no resistance left from Iran, weaken the regime enough so someone overthrows the regime from inside, or floats out they have a plan to kill their leader so they are forced to the table and allow a supervised dismantling of the nuclear program.  Failing any of those three they may just kill the Ayotollah with the obvious risks as to what follows for Iran itself.  I just think we are out of time to stop them from having the bomb and this thing is so far down the road now one of the above is going to happen.

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54 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said:

Yeah I understood you right the first time. It’s a horrible comparison. Iran can’t match Israel in bombing or drones. But we followed up bombing Iraq with an invasion which toppled Saddam Hussein. Israel can’t do that, nor can they completely destroy the Iranian nuclear program, so I’m not quite sure what they’re going to achieve here. Which is why your comparison was so asinine. 

We will see about that.  Even if they set it back by 5 or 10 years that will be a significant accomplishment because that's 5 or 10 more years to finish the job.  And I don't think there's much doubt, although I'm sure you'll find some, that they've accomplished that already.  But they've said they won't stop until they've completed that mission and I have no reason to doubt them.  Israel is pretty good at accomplishing it's goals, especially when they think it's essential to their existence.  I know one thing - I'd rather be Israel than Iran in this conflict right about now.  

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1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

I remember when magas said they're voting for Trump because they didn't want war.

I remember when Liberals weren't perverts 

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28 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

I remember when magas said they're voting for Trump because they didn't want war.

When the tiny hat people tell our presidents to jump they ask how high. There's a reason the first place the president goes after being elected is to pledge loyalty to the rock wall. It doesn't matter who's in office Israel says to do something Trump Biden Obama Clinton bush will do it. 

Trump doesn't want to attack Iran he's begging for them to make a piece deal but Israel doesn't want it so he will do what he's told

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38 minutes ago, Maximum Overkill said:

I remember when Liberals weren't perverts 

When was that? Must have been a while back. At least since the 60s/70s. 

Politics. John Wayne Gacy entered local Democratic Party politics, initially offering use of his employees to clean party headquarters at no charge

 

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58 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

I remember when magas said they're voting for Trump because they didn't want war.

Most of them didn’t give a sh1t about Iran a few months ago.  Now it’s “time to get rid of them,” apparently.

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Just now, TimHauck said:

Most of them didn’t give a sh1t about Iran a few months ago.  Now it’s “time to get rid of them,” apparently.

I said back in the 80s they need to be scoured out. I have repeated that same sentiment numerous times on this site in recent years. You were probably busy raging about something on FBGs before you contributed to getting them shut down. 

Now you are working hard to get this site shut down with your collective liberal whining 5 million times a day about Trump.  

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47 minutes ago, Cdub100 said:

When the tiny hat people tell our presidents to jump they ask how high. There's a reason the first place the president goes after being elected is to pledge loyalty to the rock wall. It doesn't matter who's in office Israel says to do something Trump Biden Obama Clinton bush will do it. 

Trump doesn't want to attack Iran he's begging for them to make a piece deal but Israel doesn't want it so he will do what he's told

I don't think he will oblige. He has said multiple times that Israel is the reason for a lot of the unnecessary wars. His alternate account is sht posting on X mocking all of the pro MAGA accounts who are turning on him.

All he has done so far is warn people to evacuate Tehran. He may also be using Iran as code for Israel. There's so much going on that we don't know. Until the US is officially involved, I will withhold my judgement.

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1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said:

I remember when magas said they're voting for Trump because they didn't want war.

I mean he did warn Iran to make a deal.  If they did there would be no missles in the air.  

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I'm just glad Trump hasn't picked a side.

@RLLD assured us he hasn't.....you know....as long as you don't read Trump's own words. Oh that's right- it's someone's interpretation of Trump's own words.

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Trump kissed the wall. I believe that the USA will continue to do Israel's bidding. 

My hope is that Iran and Israel flatten each other before we can spend a bunch of our tax dollars there.

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2 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

I remember when magas said they're voting for Trump because they didn't want war.

Donald said during the campaign that Iran couldn’t be allowed to have nukes. Being against Islamists possessing nukes . It’s bad enough Pakistan has them 

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13 minutes ago, HellToupee said:

Donald said during the campaign that Iran couldn’t be allowed to have nukes. Being against Islamists possessing nukes . It’s bad enough Pakistan has them 

I don't get why this is so hard for some to understand.  The US has made a lot of progress building relationships with many in the ME (Bahrain, Saudi, Egypt, Oman, Kuwait, and Qatar).  There's still a lot of work to do, but it gets much easier without the constant threat from Iran and their puppet terrorist groups (Hezbollah, Hamas, PIJ, etc.).

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1 hour ago, Frozenbeernuts said:

I don't think he will oblige. He has said multiple times that Israel is the reason for a lot of the unnecessary wars. His alternate account is sht posting on X mocking all of the pro MAGA accounts who are turning on him.

All he has done so far is warn people to evacuate Tehran. He may also be using Iran as code for Israel. There's so much going on that we don't know. Until the US is officially involved, I will withhold my judgement.

Most of us don't want war. I'd say the only ones who want it are the GOP Republicans. 

That is one of the things that is so maddening about Trump. 

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I’m very pleased with Iran being turned to rubble. I’ve been calling for it for quite sometime. They are the mothership of terror. Bombs away. 

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8 hours ago, Strike said:

We will see about that.  Even if they set it back by 5 or 10 years that will be a significant accomplishment because that's 5 or 10 more years to finish the job.  And I don't think there's much doubt, although I'm sure you'll find some, that they've accomplished that already.  But they've said they won't stop until they've completed that mission and I have no reason to doubt them.  Israel is pretty good at accomplishing it's goals, especially when they think it's essential to their existence.  I know one thing - I'd rather be Israel than Iran in this conflict right about now.  

I hope you’re right. 

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4 hours ago, Sean Mooney said:

I'm just glad Trump hasn't picked a side.

@RLLD assured us he hasn't.....you know....as long as you don't read Trump's own words. Oh that's right- it's someone's interpretation of Trump's own words.

I assured nothing, this is a lie.

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The Magaverse is being fractured with Trump ready to declare war on Iran.

I'll side with the anti-war magas in this instance.  At least they are honest.  They wanted no war, lower groceries, peace and prosperity.  So do I.

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Trump focking lost his mind!

We now have complete and total control of the skies over Iran. Iran had good sky trackers and other defensive equipment, and plenty of it, but it doesn’t compare to American made, conceived, and manufactured “stuff.” Nobody does it better than the good ol’ USA.

We know exactly where the so-called “Supreme Leader” is hiding. He is an easy target, but is safe there - We are not going to take him out (kill!), at least not for now. But we don’t want missiles shot at civilians, or American soldiers. Our patience is wearing thin. Thank you for your attention to this matter!

Have we ever had a president threaten to murder foreign leaders over social media?  This is focking insane.

Also WE?

It's now our war.  Thanks Trump you focking psychopath.

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Also someone tell this retard that if you want to kill someone, you don't tell them that you know where they are and give them a chance to move.

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🚨BREAKING: U.S. officials tell Axios that Trump is seriously considering launching a U.S. strike on Iran’s nuclear facilities, especially the underground uranium enrichment site at Fordow.

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21 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Also someone tell this retard that if you want to kill someone, you don't tell them that you know where they are and give them a chance to move.

I'll get the message to him as quickly as possible. I don't know how the military made it this far without your strategic expertise.

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Just now, lickin_starfish said:

I'll get the message to him as quickly as possible. I don't know how the military made it this far without your strategic expertise.

It's common sense right?  Too bad we have a senile fool in charge.

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