Hardcore troubadour 15,695 Posted July 29 5 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Correct I don't know, that's why I'm asking. You have answer? Yes. The answer is you don’t know the difference between an arrest and an indictment. One has greater consequences than the other. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,844 Posted July 29 Well trump said they found that Obama is guilty of treason, and trump is always right because he has a hat that says so. Indictments should be imminent. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,844 Posted July 29 9 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Yes. The answer is you don’t know the difference between an arrest and an indictment. One has greater consequences than the other. Of course I know the difference. They teach this in middle school. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 2,021 Posted July 29 2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Of course I know the difference. They teach this in middle school. You made it out of middle school? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,647 Posted July 29 15 minutes ago, RLLD said: I get that, but then again I observe lies on both sides. Now, given your obvious sensitivity for lying as you note above, I would surmise you would also consider the lies of Brennan to be rather offensive as well. I haven’t followed this case at all. I’m fairly convinced it’s a load of bull because of the timing and the accuser’s long history of making stuff up. Let me know when Hillary is in chains, they get the big guy, Obama is lead off in handcuffs etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,275 Posted July 29 6 minutes ago, MDC said: I haven’t followed this case at all. I’m fairly convinced it’s a load of bull because of the timing and the accuser’s long history of making stuff up. Let me know when Hillary is in chains, they get the big guy, Obama is lead off in handcuffs etc. Understood. Well, Brennan lied at the behest of Obama to ensure there were investigations toward Trump, fraudulent ones, to diminish his ability to accomplish anything. So they have Brennan in lies, which I infer bothers you, so he is best chance....though they have some evidence toward others as well. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,370 Posted July 29 5 minutes ago, RLLD said: Well, Brennan lied at the behest of Obama to ensure there were investigations toward Trump, fraudulent ones, to diminish his ability to accomplish anything. Did he? 5 minutes ago, RLLD said: So they have Brennan in lies, Do they? Let's be real here. For all but the most indoctrinated, the Trump DOJ has already lost most of its credibility. It only took six months. I'll believe this garbage is true when Brennan gets convicted by a jury for it. Until then, it's just more bullshit being flung at the wall in hope that something sticks that will keep minds off of the fact that Donald Trump is a focking pedophile. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,275 Posted July 29 8 minutes ago, Fnord said: Did he? Do they? Let's be real here. For all but the most indoctrinated, the Trump DOJ has already lost most of its credibility. It only took six months. I'll believe this garbage is true when Brennan gets convicted by a jury for it. Until then, it's just more bullshit being flung at the wall in hope that something sticks that will keep minds off of the fact that Donald Trump is a focking pedophile. Yes And here is the important part. If later Tulsi were to do the same thing to the next President, it would still be wrong. YOU might then care, and then you can come find me since the politics of the situation result in you caring about corruption and we can then temporarily be aligned.... This game Democrats play, be corrupt as fock and then wait it out to do the "what does it matter now" ploy, is focking over. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,844 Posted July 29 Let's just be clear and deal with facts. What did Brennan lie about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,993 Posted July 29 Putting everyone else to the side , John Brennan clearly lied about the Steele dossier Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,993 Posted July 29 February, 2018. John Brennan on the Steele dossier: "It did not play any role whatsoever in the Intelligence Community Assessment that was done that was presented to then President Obama." Said to Chuck Todd on tv Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 1,993 Posted July 29 Google is easy to find information. Try it 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Horseman 2,678 Posted July 29 4 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Let's just be clear and deal with facts. What did Brennan lie about? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 1,844 Posted July 29 3 minutes ago, HellToupee said: Putting everyone else to the side , John Brennan clearly lied about the Steele dossier 2 minutes ago, HellToupee said: February, 2018. John Brennan on the Steele dossier: "It did not play any role whatsoever in the Intelligence Community Assessment that was done that was presented to then President Obama." Said to Chuck Todd on tv 1 minute ago, HellToupee said: Google is easy to find information. Try it How is that a lie? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,275 Posted July 29 14 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Let's just be clear and deal with facts. What did Brennan lie about? Quote Newly declassified information contradicts Brennan’s testimony before Congress on the origins of the now-debunked Russian collusion conspiracy theory. There is a particular focus on the intelligence community assessment commissioned by President Barack Obama in December 2016, which suggested that Russia had interfered in the 2016 presidential election to help Donald Trump. Up Next - The Hill's Headlines | PM - July 25, 2025 Obama ordered the assessment after a prior assessment found no evidence of collusion or influence on the election in Trump’s favor. But Obama’s White House effectively quashed that finding from seasoned CIA analysts. To create a new version, Brennan handpicked new analysts, who effectively flipped the earlier finding on its head without any credible basis in the record. The new assessment relied, to a significant degree, on the Steele dossier, a widely discredited report paid for by Hillary Clinton’s campaign that contained unfounded allegations about Trump. In testimony on May 23, 2017, Brennan claimed that the Steele dossier “wasn’t part of the corpus of intelligence information that we had. It was not in any way used as a basis for the Intelligence Community Assessment that was done.” In short, Brennan dismissed any reliance on the dossier. Yet in the material now declassified, Brennan is shown not just discussing the dossier but insisting upon its inclusion in the new assessment Obama had requested. Indeed, he expressly overruled the CIA’s two most senior Russia experts, who said it “did not meet even the most basic tradecraft standards.” Link Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,695 Posted July 29 Brennan has a history of lying. Like how he lied about spying on Congress. Right to Feinsteins face. She was one of the members of Congress he was spying on. Liberals are ok with this. Obama certainly was. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cdub100 3,978 Posted July 29 Everyone is going to forget about the EpSTEIN list I guess. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,340 Posted July 29 24 minutes ago, RLLD said: Link Why didn't Trump's DOJ do something about this during his first presidency, they had that information then? Also, there the statute of limitations for perjury is 5 years, so how can he be prosecuted? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TimHauck 3,113 Posted July 29 7 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: Why didn't Trump's DOJ do something about this during his first presidency, they had that information then? Also, there the statute of limitations for perjury is 5 years, so how can he be prosecuted? I believe Treason is the only possible charge Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,390 Posted July 29 9 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: Why didn't Trump's DOJ do something about this during his first presidency, they had that information then? Also, there the statute of limitations for perjury is 5 years, so how can he be prosecuted? It’s almost like he’s trying to distract from other things Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,275 Posted July 29 18 minutes ago, Mike Honcho said: Why didn't Trump's DOJ do something about this during his first presidency, they had that information then? Also, there the statute of limitations for perjury is 5 years, so how can he be prosecuted? How would I know? If that is your concern, that's fine, I am not hung up on such things. The statute of limitations extends to the duration of the conspiracy. So if Brennan lied again about this last year, or last month, that extends the conspiracy....and with it the statute period as well. I surmise they thought the standard practice of being corrupt and waiting it out was going to protect them here, but it might not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,695 Posted July 29 Statute of limitations. Libtards are funny. I believe we have blown past that little bit of legal precedent a while ago. lol. You guys are funny. Like clowns. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,647 Posted July 29 1 hour ago, RLLD said: Understood. Well, Brennan lied at the behest of Obama to ensure there were investigations toward Trump, fraudulent ones, to diminish his ability to accomplish anything. So they have Brennan in lies, which I infer bothers you, so he is best chance....though they have some evidence toward others as well. Just saying, you might want to tamp down the enthusiasm a little bit. Remember what happened when you were convinced they were going to get the Big Guy? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,275 Posted July 29 3 minutes ago, MDC said: Just saying, you might want to tamp down the enthusiasm a little bit. Remember what happened when you were convinced they were going to get the Big Guy? Based on my prior posting on this topic I am not really "enthusiastic". I have already noted, and will do so again here, that they simply cannot get Obama.....even if Brennan were to flip on him they will not get Obama. Setting that aside, I do see value in getting the minions at least. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,647 Posted July 29 9 minutes ago, RLLD said: Based on my prior posting on this topic I am not really "enthusiastic". I have already noted, and will do so again here, that they simply cannot get Obama.....even if Brennan were to flip on him they will not get Obama. Setting that aside, I do see value in getting the minions at least. Cool. I’d hate to see you have to admit you were wrong about Obummer, the way you promised you would on Biden, but never did. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,105 Posted July 29 Once again: Brennan did NOT lie under oath: https://streetlightnews.org/fact-check-john-brennan-lie-under-oath-steele-dossier/ So go ahead and indict him. He will be very quickly acquitted (if the case isn’t thrown out first) and once again the Trump DOJ will have egg on its face. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,695 Posted July 29 5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Once again: Brennan did NOT lie under oath: https://streetlightnews.org/fact-check-john-brennan-lie-under-oath-steele-dossier/ So go ahead and indict him. He will be very quickly acquitted (if the case isn’t thrown out first) and once again the Trump DOJ will have egg on its face. 2019. Nice work ball bag. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Beaker15 249 Posted July 29 5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: Once again: Brennan did NOT lie under oath: https://streetlightnews.org/fact-check-john-brennan-lie-under-oath-steele-dossier/ So go ahead and indict him. He will be very quickly acquitted (if the case isn’t thrown out first) and once again the Trump DOJ will have egg on its face. This simply isn't not true Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,105 Posted July 29 6 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: 2019. Nice work ball bag. It’s referring to the same testimony you’re accusing him of lying about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,695 Posted July 29 4 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: It’s referring to the same testimony you’re accusing him of lying about. 5 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: It’s referring to the same testimony you’re accusing him of lying about. Wow. No it’s not. I’m talking about the CIA spying on Congress. But hey, he said he’s sorry. After he lied. Educate yourself, fool. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,105 Posted July 29 11 minutes ago, Hardcore troubadour said: Wow. No it’s not. I’m talking about the CIA spying on Congress. But hey, he said he’s sorry. After he lied. Educate yourself, fool. Can you link to his supposed apology and admitting he lied? Tia. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,695 Posted July 29 Just now, The Real timschochet said: Can you link to his supposed apology and admitting he lied? Tia. No. You can google CIA spying on Congress. How is it you were not aware of this? Do you think I’m making this up? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,105 Posted July 29 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: No. You can google CIA spying on Congress. How is it you were not aware of this? Do you think I’m making this up? I think you’re adding your spin which you always do. You’re referring to his apology in 2014. That’s not what Tulsi Gabbard was referring to. You actually think they’re going to indict him for that? 11 years later? You really need to get your facts straight before you call other people stupid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,370 Posted July 29 2 hours ago, RLLD said: Link That's an opinion piece that presents no evidence. Keep trying. To be clear, I'm open to the possibility this is true. But I have yet to see actual evidence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,695 Posted July 29 3 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I think you’re adding your spin which you always do. You’re referring to his apology in 2014. That’s not what Tulsi Gabbard was referring to. You actually think they’re going to indict him for that? 11 years later? You really need to get your facts straight before you call other people stupid. When did I say any of that? I was pointing out his prior lies to Congress. What’s with my fan club the past few days just making it up? Stop. He has lied to Congress. Let’s not act as if he wouldn’t do it again. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fnord 2,370 Posted July 29 1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said: When did I say any of that? I was pointing out his prior lies to Congress. What’s with my fan club the past few days just making it up? Stop. He has lied to Congress. Let’s not act as if he wouldn’t do it again. Link? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Honcho 5,340 Posted July 29 On 7/27/2025 at 5:15 PM, The Real timschochet said: Since @Hardcore troubadour won’t say who Trump is going to indict first I decided to go directly to the source. And apparently the answer is….Beyonce!! https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2025/07/27/politics/trump-beyonce-prosecute-fact-check Bet you didn’t have this on your bingo card. Is Taylor next? 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RLLD 4,275 Posted July 29 1 hour ago, MDC said: Cool. I’d hate to see you have to admit you were wrong about Obummer, the way you promised you would on Biden, but never did. Biden is absolutely guilty, just like Obama is, 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,647 Posted July 29 9 minutes ago, RLLD said: Biden is absolutely guilty, just like Obama is, Now I’m confused. You said you base your opinions on facts not feelings, so unless they found definitive proof of Biden’s guilt you’d admit you were wrong? j/k, I knew you didn’t mean it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hardcore troubadour 15,695 Posted July 29 DNI declassifies documents no one has seen before in 2025. Tim Tard gives us an article from 2019. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites