zsasz 384 Posted Wednesday at 05:20 PM Prediction: Mamdani will govern from the Center Left; he'll compromise or halfway enact some of his campaign promises. Because he's a good speaker, he'll rile up the Right Wing Talking Heads and Trump.....and New York City will now become a complete boogeyman for the Right. Someone spits in the street? Mamdani's fault. Someone steals a piece of fruit from a vendor? Mamdani's fault. etc. etc. I'm half surprised FOX NEWS is staying there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 2,208 Posted Wednesday at 05:25 PM 4 minutes ago, zsasz said: Prediction: Mamdani will govern from the Center Left; he'll compromise or halfway enact some of his campaign promises. Because he's a good speaker, he'll rile up the Right Wing Talking Heads and Trump.....and New York City will now become a complete boogeyman for the Right. Someone spits in the street? Mamdani's fault. Someone steals a piece of fruit from a vendor? Mamdani's fault. etc. etc. I'm half surprised FOX NEWS is staying there. Sounds like the flip side of what the Ds/msm does with President Trump 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BrahmaBulls 928 Posted Wednesday at 05:35 PM 14 minutes ago, zsasz said: Prediction: Mamdani will govern from the Center Left; he'll compromise or halfway enact some of his campaign promises. Because he's a good speaker, he'll rile up the Right Wing Talking Heads and Trump.....and New York City will now become a complete boogeyman for the Right. Someone spits in the street? Mamdani's fault. Someone steals a piece of fruit from a vendor? Mamdani's fault. etc. etc. I'm half surprised FOX NEWS is staying there. Everything bad that happens in NY is his fault. That's how you morons treat Trump. 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 2,208 Posted Wednesday at 06:11 PM This might be the last year with Christmas decorations in NYC for a while. Might have to take one last trip there to see it. Next year we can just watch Home Alone 2 in the comfort of your own homes. Open the windows, throw a hat on and roast some nuts when the outdoor scenes are on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MDC 7,879 Posted Wednesday at 06:12 PM I wouldn’t care who NYC elected but the MAGA tears are gold. Got to figure a lot of NYers voted Mamdani just to give Trump the finger. 1 1 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,525 Posted yesterday at 02:07 PM Mamdani is so articulate and comes across as being sincere IMO. I can see why he won the election. https://x.com/atrupar/status/1986118435210674630 (video clip of Mamdani presser after election win) Mamdani: "My message to ICE agents & to everyone across this city is that everyone will be held to the same standard of the law. If you violate the law, you must be held accountable. There is sadly a sense that is growing across this country that certain people are allowed to violate that law, whether they be the president or whether they be the agents themselves. And what New Yorkers are looking for is an era of consistency, an era of clarity, an era of conviction." 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,211 Posted yesterday at 02:20 PM 20 hours ago, HellToupee said: This might be the last year with Christmas decorations in NYC for a while. Might have to take one last trip there to see it. Next year we can just watch Home Alone 2 in the comfort of your own homes. Open the windows, throw a hat on and roast some nuts when the outdoor scenes are on. I remember the right saying the same thing about Obama. WAR ON CHRISTMAS Never happened. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 650 Posted yesterday at 02:25 PM 20 hours ago, HellToupee said: Next year we can just watch Home Alone 2 in the comfort of your own homes. One of the great tidbits about Trump is at one point if you wanted to use one of his properties as a location - like the irreplaceable Plaza - the producer had to put him in the movie in a cameo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Hunt 312 Posted yesterday at 02:36 PM 26 minutes ago, squistion said: Mamdani is so articulate and comes across as being sincere IMO. I can see why he won the election. https://x.com/atrupar/status/1986118435210674630 (video clip of Mamdani presser after election win) Mamdani: "My message to ICE agents & to everyone across this city is that everyone will be held to the same standard of the law. If you violate the law, you must be held accountable. There is sadly a sense that is growing across this country that certain people are allowed to violate that law, whether they be the president or whether they be the agents themselves. And what New Yorkers are looking for is an era of consistency, an era of clarity, an era of conviction." Look who he ran against. It would have been more shocking if he lost the election. I hope he has success is lowering the crime rated in NY. The city needs it. Eric Adams said the same thing and crime went up every year. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RaiderHaters Revenge 4,542 Posted yesterday at 02:41 PM 34 minutes ago, squistion said: Mamdani is so articulate and comes across as being sincere IMO. I can see why he won the election. https://x.com/atrupar/status/1986118435210674630 (video clip of Mamdani presser after election win) Mamdani: "My message to ICE agents & to everyone across this city is that everyone will be held to the same standard of the law. If you violate the law, you must be held accountable. There is sadly a sense that is growing across this country that certain people are allowed to violate that law, whether they be the president or whether they be the agents themselves. And what New Yorkers are looking for is an era of consistency, an era of clarity, an era of conviction." Unless of course you are breaking federal law. Then he will allow you to live there free 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ron_Artest 2,211 Posted yesterday at 02:44 PM 7 minutes ago, Mike Hunt said: Look who he ran against. It would have been more shocking if he lost the election. I hope he has success is lowering the crime rated in NY. The city needs it. Eric Adams said the same thing and crime went up every year. Mamdani voters don't care about crime. They care about affordability. That's why he won. And if he fails on affordability then he'll be one and done. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,434 Posted yesterday at 02:49 PM 3 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said: Mamdani voters don't care about crime. They care about affordability. That's why he won. And if he fails on affordability then he'll be one and done. My guess is he probably will fail on affordability, because the main causes for that are out of his power to control or influence. But let’s see. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
squistion 2,525 Posted yesterday at 02:49 PM Just now, Mike Hunt said: Look who he ran against. It would have been more shocking if he lost the election. I hope he has success is lowering the crime rated in NY. The city needs it. Eric Adams said the same thing and crime went up every year. Not after he was trashed for months as being a Muslim Socialist Communist Immigrant (see the NYC Mayor's Race thread). The rhetoric used against him and the tens of millions spent in negative ads would have worked in the past but he resonated with NYC voters as being legitimate and they were able to overlook all the negativity from his critics. He brings an excitement to the Democratic Party I haven't seen since Obama. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 650 Posted yesterday at 02:53 PM 16 minutes ago, Mike Hunt said: Look who he ran against. It would have been more shocking if he lost the election. I hope he has success is lowering the crime rated in NY. The city needs it. Eric Adams said the same thing and crime went up every year. I kinda sorta agree with this, but to be clear NYC crime is at its lowest level in decades. It’s been declining since 2022 like a lot of cities (including mine). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Hunt 312 Posted yesterday at 02:59 PM 1 hour ago, Ron_Artest said: Mamdani voters don't care about crime. They care about affordability. That's why he won. And if he fails on affordability then he'll be one and done. If he is able to build city funded public project type of housing. or take over apartment buildings where he can set rent rates, he might have success in affordability, if not he will fail. Too many variables out of his control. I do think every New Yorker cares about crime, that is why he mentions it. Lowering crime in NY is a lofty goal in itself. The people who commit crimes do not care who is the mayor of police chief. The key for Mamdani was to get elected, so no matter what happens he will probably be mayor for as long as he wants no matter the results. Steven A. Smith has some very reasonable concerns about Mamdani`s plans that many New Yorkers will agree with. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,434 Posted yesterday at 07:58 PM So regarding what Mamdani can and cannot do, I got this from an article in National Review by Jim Geraghty, a center-right guy who is usually pretty accurate: https://www.nationalreview.com/the-morning-jolt/republicans-have-good-reason-to-worry/ You have to scroll down to the middle of the article to get to it, but here is a summary: 1. Property taxes can only be raised by the New York City Council, not the mayor. 2. Personal income taxes can only be raised by the state legislature in Albany, not by the mayor of NYC. 3. Bus fares are controlled by the MTA, a quasi-government authority. The mayor has some influence over this but does not control it. Mamdani has promised free bus fare but this will be difficult to achieve. 4. He can get more city run grocery stores established through Economic Development Agency which he controls but they will be a limited number. Right now there are 4. Even if he establishes a dozen more, while it will be beneficial to some very poor people I can’t imagine it will impact the lives of the average New Yorker. So my suspicion is this based on what I’ve read: very much like Trump, a lot of what Mamdani will do his first year will be for show: it will make much news, please his supporters and inflame his detractors. But very little about New York City will actually change. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
zsasz 384 Posted yesterday at 08:01 PM Has NYC been destroyed yet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,434 Posted yesterday at 08:05 PM 3 minutes ago, zsasz said: Has NYC been destroyed yet? I think we need a new Kurt Russell movie. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,434 Posted yesterday at 08:18 PM Best NYC apocalypse movies: 6. Cloverfield Kind of a silly film but we do get Lady Liberty’s head lopped off. 5. Godzilla (1998) In which our favorite reptile gets bored with attacking Tokyo and heads for the Big Apple instead. Critics panned it but I enjoyed him stomping through Times Square. 4. King Kong The original or any of the remakes, take your pick. What else is the Empire State Building there for if not to climb? 3. I Am Legend Will Smith fights off hordes of zombies on the Brooklyn Bridge? Yes please. 2. The Day After Tomorrow Such a cheesy movie but I loved it. Watching the New York Public Library freeze over- great stuff. 1. Escape from New York How could this not be #1 with a bullet? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 426 Posted yesterday at 09:14 PM 6 hours ago, The Real timschochet said: My guess is he probably will fail on affordability, because the main causes for that are out of his power to control or influence. But let’s see. Not to mention his policies would be like taking arsenic for the common cold. Are you of the opinion socialist policies reduce costs? Seems out of line for capitalist ideology. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,434 Posted yesterday at 09:32 PM 1 minute ago, Mark Davis said: Not to mention his policies would be like taking arsenic for the common cold. Are you of the opinion socialist policies reduce costs? Seems out of line for capitalist ideology. I am not. But I am also of the opinion that they don’t do as much damage as you might think. I am indeed a capitalist. But I will hammer the point over and over: the most important aspect of capitalism is free trade. When there is a free or lightly restricted flow of goods, the amount of socialist benefits that a government imposes won’t do that much harm. This is not my idea; I learned it from Milton Friedman, Ludwig Von Mises, and to a certain extent, Ayn Rand. Friedman in particular made the point that he was willing to support Democratic politicians who were in favor of the New Deal and the Great Society so long as they supported lower tariffs. Because he understood the principle. Of the “arsenic” Mamdani is proposing, the most poisonous is anything to do with price controls: rent control, the supermarkets , etc, assuming he can actually do it (which seems doubtful based on the article above I linked.) But the fact that it would be limited to New York City makes the damage minimal IMO. To put it another way: it’s estimated that Trump’s tarrifs will cost every American household around $2,400 a year, including New Yorkers. (https://www.americanprogress.org/article/8-ways-trumps-turbulence-tax-is-costing-the-economy/ Now if Mandami gets everything he wants, he might initially save New Yorkers around $500. But you and I know that this savings won’t last; price controls don’t work, eventually the New Yorker who thought he was saving $500 will end up paying $700. But compared to the tariff cost of $2400, the loss of $200 isn’t really worth discussing and it will hardly bring about the apocalypse. Priorities. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mark Davis 426 Posted yesterday at 10:05 PM 33 minutes ago, The Real timschochet said: I am not. But I am also of the opinion that they don’t do as much damage as you might think. I am indeed a capitalist. But I will hammer the point over and over: the most important aspect of capitalism is free trade. When there is a free or lightly restricted flow of goods, the amount of socialist benefits that a government imposes won’t do that much harm. This is not my idea; I learned it from Milton Friedman, Ludwig Von Mises, and to a certain extent, Ayn Rand. Friedman in particular made the point that he was willing to support Democratic politicians who were in favor of the New Deal and the Great Society so long as they supported lower tariffs. Because he understood the principle. Of the “arsenic” Mamdani is proposing, the most poisonous is anything to do with price controls: rent control, the supermarkets , etc, assuming he can actually do it (which seems doubtful based on the article above I linked.) But the fact that it would be limited to New York City makes the damage minimal IMO. To put it another way: it’s estimated that Trump’s tarrifs will cost every American household around $2,400 a year, including New Yorkers. (https://www.americanprogress.org/article/8-ways-trumps-turbulence-tax-is-costing-the-economy/ Now if Mandami gets everything he wants, he might initially save New Yorkers around $500. But you and I know that this savings won’t last; price controls don’t work, eventually the New Yorker who thought he was saving $500 will end up paying $700. But compared to the tariff cost of $2400, the loss of $200 isn’t really worth discussing and it will hardly bring about the apocalypse. Priorities. We can, and have, debated the overall impacts of Trump's policies. I'm not as pro tariff as he is so some of that I agree causes inflationary pressures. To me, the problem with Mamdani isn't the overall impact. You are right it's just a NYC issue. But in some ways he's dangerous in that if he doesn't stay long enough to show long term what those short term rent controls for instance would cause, people might not see his term for what it truly is. To me this type of economic message is dangerous to the overall well being of our country. The tariffs you may disagree with, I may disagree with some of them, but rolling those back if needed or negotiating them away can be done. What Mamdani espouses is a philosophy, not just one policy, but rather an entire playbook of policies that have historically failed over time. Like you said, initially these things can look good, maybe even good enough to consolidate some more power, but long term they are catastrophic. He's a talented politician, great at giving a speech. But while the style I have to admit is captivating to the public, when you look at the content, he's quoting Eugene Debs for instance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
peenie 1,958 Posted yesterday at 10:54 PM Zohran Mamdani announces an all-female leadership team for his transition including former FTC Chair Lina Khan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Hunt 312 Posted 23 hours ago 8 hours ago, squistion said: Not after he was trashed for months as being a Muslim Socialist Communist Immigrant (see the NYC Mayor's Race thread). Well, 3 out of 4 are correct with one pending. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,923 Posted 23 hours ago On 11/5/2025 at 10:43 AM, The Real timschochet said: I was so impressed by Mamdani’s speech last night. Still don’t agree with many of his ideas but what a powerful speaker he is! Rooting for him, let’s see what he can do. so you dont agree with many of someone's ideas but as long as they are a powerful speaker (and anti trump) then you are rooting for them? That is a scary sentiment 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
WhiteWonder 2,923 Posted 23 hours ago On 11/5/2025 at 10:14 AM, squistion said: are those pigeons? don't they get brought up in regards to you a bunch for some reason? What is the story behind that? 2 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
shadrap 257 Posted 23 hours ago 1 hour ago, The Real timschochet said: I am not. But I am also of the opinion that they don’t do as much damage as you might think. I am indeed a capitalist. But I will hammer the point over and over: the most important aspect of capitalism is free trade. When there is a free or lightly restricted flow of goods, the amount of socialist benefits that a government imposes won’t do that much harm. This is not my idea; I learned it from Milton Friedman, Ludwig Von Mises, and to a certain extent, Ayn Rand. Friedman in particular made the point that he was willing to support Democratic politicians who were in favor of the New Deal and the Great Society so long as they supported lower tariffs. Because he understood the principle. Of the “arsenic” Mamdani is proposing, the most poisonous is anything to do with price controls: rent control, the supermarkets , etc, assuming he can actually do it (which seems doubtful based on the article above I linked.) But the fact that it would be limited to New York City makes the damage minimal IMO. To put it another way: it’s estimated that Trump’s tarrifs will cost every American household around $2,400 a year, including New Yorkers. (https://www.americanprogress.org/article/8-ways-trumps-turbulence-tax-is-costing-the-economy/ Now if Mandami gets everything he wants, he might initially save New Yorkers around $500. But you and I know that this savings won’t last; price controls don’t work, eventually the New Yorker who thought he was saving $500 will end up paying $700. But compared to the tariff cost of $2400, the loss of $200 isn’t really worth discussing and it will hardly bring about the apocalypse. Priorities. Your second sentence is a full blown crock of s--t. As much damage as we think? The only way that is possible is if his policies are not enacted. He is an avowed communist/socialist. Yes, he is Democrat, that is why it is okay with you. Your party has been edging toward this for 20 years. I can't believe you are so dense on this guy and what it means. Party over common sense. A socialist was just elected mayor of a city that reeks of what America USED to stand for. And YOU are celebrating. congrats. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The Real timschochet 7,434 Posted 23 hours ago 5 minutes ago, WhiteWonder said: so you dont agree with many of someone's ideas but as long as they are a powerful speaker (and anti trump) then you are rooting for them? That is a scary sentiment Not really. I don’t think that most of the ideas I don’t like will be enacted, so I’m not worried about that. But outside of economics I like a lot of the stuff he’s for, particularly when it comes to immigration issues. And I like him. I’ve heard him interviewed and I generally think he’s a good guy. So I’m rooting for him to succeed. Keep in mind, however, that I root for President Trump to succeed as well, even though I don’t like him and don’t think he’s a good guy, because he is my President. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,593 Posted 23 hours ago Working in midtown NYC this week. We have a security guy who is retired cop. Also have a bunch of younger PR type folks here who live in Manhattan, Bronx, etc. I‘m not bringing this shet up but they are all talking about it. Going from conversation to conversation is pretty hysterical and exactly what you’d expect. Cop is going off, says it’s the end of the city and this will ruin everything. The younger people are mostly on board with Mamdani, are going off on the banker dudes saying they are greedy cvnts, ruining the city making everything completely unaffordable. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HellToupee 2,208 Posted 23 hours ago 23 minutes ago, thegeneral said: Working in midtown NYC this week. We have a security guy who is retired cop. Also have a bunch of younger PR type folks here who live in Manhattan, Bronx, etc. I‘m not bringing this shet up but they are all talking about it. Going from conversation to conversation is pretty hysterical and exactly what you’d expect. Cop is going off, says it’s the end of the city and this will ruin everything. The younger people are mostly on board with Mamdani, are going off on the banker dudes saying they are greedy cvnts, ruining the city making everything completely unaffordable. I just nod along with whatever side is talking to me. This looks tee’d up for a disaster but at least we will see if that’s true or not. Good experiment to watch when you have no skin in the game Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
thegeneral 3,593 Posted 22 hours ago 4 minutes ago, HellToupee said: I just nod along with whatever side is talking to me. This looks tee’d up for a disaster but at least we will see if that’s true or not. Good experiment to watch when you have no skin in the game 100% to the bolded. Sometimes I goad them a bit if they are really into it. I can take either side on most issues so can pass time 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mike Hunt 312 Posted 22 hours ago We all have no idea if his ideas will work or not. They may work somewhat and appease his base a little, the rent/affordability issue is just what it is. The mayor can`t mandate price drops on private housing. Every place people live has a value that the market decides what that value is. That is where he will have issues. I would love to live in Malibu, but I can`t afford what the market prices are there. As far as state owned grocery stores, these stores still need to be supplied by food vendors who are not going to lose money. These topics are where Socialism and Capitalism don`t co-exist. But as I stated earlier, he said and did what he had to do to get into office. The story going forward is yet to be told. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BeenHereBefore 1,584 Posted 18 hours ago He got 30% of Male Jews votes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,331 Posted 13 hours ago I can't wait to see how they pay for all the free stuff. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Frozenbeernuts 2,331 Posted 13 hours ago I heard a rumor that New York's free stuff will be the freest free stuff ever. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
TBayXXXVII 2,668 Posted 8 hours ago On 11/5/2025 at 9:28 AM, SaintsInDome2006 said: Bloody hell, that’s good stuff. By Democrats? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tree of Knowledge 2,124 Posted 7 hours ago Word of the day. Taqiya. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SaintsInDome2006 650 Posted 6 hours ago 31 minutes ago, Tree of Knowledge said: Word of the day. Taqiya. Hey I know what that is. It’s like being a Manchurian Candidate, someone with hidden allegiances to another nation or ideology but poses as a certain type of centrist, like a businessman or something safe like that. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites