Woman shot in the face during 'ICE-related shooting' in Minneapolis

[Sean Mooney 2,081]

1 minute ago, supermike80 said:

Yeah except the mayor and gubbernor spoke first. Sooooo might want to temper that opinion.  I'm fine with people saying elected officials should chill, but this goes for BOF SIDEZ!

TBF- Kristi Noem issued a statement first and she is a head of a department under Trump's watch. Then the mayor and the governor. Then Trump- and when given a chance to tone down things Trump chose to enflame it further and outright lied about stuff. 

[5-Points 3,857]

8 hours ago, FrancieFootball said:

The correct response to a driver who is just trying to nudge their vehicle to freedom in a terrifying situation is to not pump iron into the driver. 

There is no justification for this action, but MAGAs defending it is a good thing for The Blue Wave this year.

Go on and make a traffic stop a murder. 

 

8 hours ago, 5-Points said:

Itsatip: don't try to "nudge" a law enforcement officer out of the way with your vehicle. It won't end well for you. 

 

7 hours ago, FrancieFootball said:

She didn't nudge. The jackass agent put himself in front of the vehicle and most definitly didn't get injured when this absotely panicked mother wanted to get away.

Blood is on Trump's hands.

Wake up and help save this country from the madness.

The bottom line is, when there is a law enforcement officer standing in front of your vehicle, don't drive forward. 

She is dead because of her actions. Had she put the vehicle in park and obeyed lawful commands, she'd be alive today. 

[TimHauck 3,511]

4 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

It's the only card they have left in the deck they know how to play.

ICE detaining US citizens for weeks before releasing them with no charges, stating definitively that people are gang members with scant if any evidence, DHS documented to have lied on numerous occasions (see my other thread), official DHS social media accounts stealing other people’s work in order to troll, and people think “rhetoric from the left” is why people don’t like ICE, lol.

[Hardcore troubadour 16,171]

Just now, 5-Points said:

 

 

The bottom line is, when there is a law enforcement officer standing in front of your vehicle, don't drive forward. 

She is dead because of her actions. Had she put the vehicle in park and obeyed lawful commands, she'd be alive today. 

If she didn’t set out to impede law enforcement from doing their job she would be alive today. 

[5-Points 3,857]

1 minute ago, Hardcore troubadour said:

If she didn’t set out to impede law enforcement from doing their job she would be alive today. 

That too. She made a lot of bad choices. 

[Sean Mooney 2,081]

2 minutes ago, TimHauck said:

ICE detaining US citizens for weeks before releasing them with no charges, stating definitively that people are gang members with scant if any evidence, DHS documented to have lied on numerous occasions (see my other thread), official DHS social media accounts stealing other people’s work in order to troll, and people think “rhetoric from the left” is why people don’t like ICE, lol.

Well consider the sources saying it.

1 is a guy who did a martyr post about leaving the board and no one cared so they stayed anyway.

1 is a guy who faked a life threatening medical issue for sympathy and no one gave a damn.

1 is a guy whose whole life is consumed by tranny porn.

1 is a guy who just likes to say racist things on a fantasy football message board.

This isn't an algonquin roundtable putting those thoughts out there. It's a group of people who are devoted to "team politics" and easily manipulated by Internet bots and trolls. 

[Fnord 2,688]

Just got home from rioting all night in Minneapolis, I'm exhausted! Finally finished burning the city to the ground! That took forever.

[Sean Mooney 2,081]

3 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Just got home from rioting all night in Minneapolis, I'm exhausted! Finally finished burning the city to the ground! That took forever.

Who paid for you? Because I know that has to be the case. Only Democrat protests are paid for. Ignore the fact that January 6th people were bussed into DC to riot...

[avoiding injuries 1,684]

Actions have consequences, and if you Fock Around, you’re bound to Find Out. 

[cyclone24 1,957]

4 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Just got home from rioting all night in Minneapolis, I'm exhausted! Finally finished burning the city to the ground! That took forever.

Well, it’s Minneapolis. Did you rollerblade through town doing it? Fitness is important.

[Ron_Artest 2,672]

15 minutes ago, Reality said:

It's really not, the first shot went through the windshield, that's well documented. He wasn't free of the car at the point of the first shot, he was hit, front on and managed to move to the side, thank God he didn't slip on the ice.

Good effort though.

 

Yes he was free of the car.  You can put a bullet into a windshield while standing by the quarter panel.  Video shows that is what he did.  We can see the video so your lies won't work.  First shot was when we was clear from vehicle.

We have the receipts.

https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000010631041/minneapolis-ice-shooting-video.html

 

[Hardcore troubadour 16,171]

I hope that the FBI ramps up

it’s investigation into the groups that are funding these domestic terrorists.  Break up these networks and imprison leadership. Enough of this garbage. 

[nobody 2,966]

2 hours ago, Ron_Artest said:

If she wanted to hit him, she would have hit him.  He was to her left, she turned her wheels to the right.  She  goes in reverse, when you want to hit someone you go forward.

Nothing you said is true.

He pulls his gun while he is not in front of the car anymore and she is in reverse.

This is a wanna be tough guy, untrained, took an ice job to try and be a badass, felt the power and wanted to punish the woman for annoying him.

She did hit him

Clean shoot

[Sean Mooney 2,081]

2 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Yes he was free of the car.  You can put a bullet into a windshield while standing by the quarter panel.  Video shows that is what he did.  We can see the video so your lies won't work.  First shot was when we was clear from vehicle.

We have the receipts.

https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000010631041/minneapolis-ice-shooting-video.html

 

You can clearly see his gun pointing to his left- our right- on the video. Reality is an idiot who just wants to argue. Ignore him. Maybe he will fake quit the board again

[Tree of Knowledge 2,295]

5 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Just got home from rioting all night in Minneapolis, I'm exhausted! Finally finished burning the city to the ground! That took forever.

Going back out after dark?  Wear long johns, gloves and a toque.  

[Reality 3,158]

4 minutes ago, Ron_Artest said:

Yes he was free of the car.  You can put a bullet into a windshield while standing by the quarter panel.  Video shows that is what he did.  We can see the video so your lies won't work.  First shot was when we was clear from vehicle.

We have the receipts.

https://www.nytimes.com/video/us/100000010631041/minneapolis-ice-shooting-video.html

 

Your video doesn't show the view from the front of the vehicle, she clearly hit him. Good effort though.

[Ron_Artest 2,672]

4 minutes ago, avoiding injuries said:

Actions have consequences, and if you Fock Around, you’re bound to Find Out. 

Unfortunately in America we have the right to fock around and a constitution and laws that support our right to fock around.

[supermike80 2,173]

9 minutes ago, Fnord said:

Just got home from rioting all night in Minneapolis, I'm exhausted! Finally finished burning the city to the ground! That took forever.

Did you get any good loot swag?

[Tree of Knowledge 2,295]

2 minutes ago, nobody said:

She did hit him

Clean shoot

Try running over someone’s Jordan’s in the hood.  Result would be the same.  

[Ron_Artest 2,672]

1 minute ago, Reality said:

You're video doesn't show the view from the front of the vehicle, she clearly hit him. Good effort though.

It's not clear that she hit him, the clear video shows she didn't, and he only shot after he was "hit" while he was clear from the front and she was driving away.  This was retaliation, not self defense.

[nobody 2,966]

1 hour ago, Sean Mooney said:

Not to mention they let the guy leave the scene.

The first guy out of the car says to the woman "Move your car." The second says "Get out of your car." She was complying with one of the commands given to her. 

She wasn't complying to a damn thing.  She was being an agitator, and she only started moving the car after the guy started trying to remove her from the vehicle.  It's very clear she was trying to flee.  

But even if she was trying to comply with the order to move (she wasn't), that doesn't give you the right to drive into someone. 

Clean shoot

[Reality 3,158]

Just now, Ron_Artest said:

It's not clear that she hit him, the clear video shows she didn't, and he only shot after he was "hit" while he was clear from the front and she was driving away.  This was retaliation, not self defense.

Sure it is. 

Feel free to apologize.

[TimHauck 3,511]

Just now, nobody said:

She wasn't complying to a damn thing.  She was being an agitator, and she only started moving the car after the guy started trying to remove her from the vehicle.  It's very clear she was trying to flee.  

But even if she was trying to comply with the order to move (she wasn't), that doesn't give you the right to drive into someone. 

Clean shoot

Yes very clear she was trying to flee and not trying to hit him.  Clean shoot probably, but he could have easily gotten out of the way without shooting.

[avoiding injuries 1,684]

4 minutes ago, nobody said:

She did hit him

Clean shoot

But she reversed first giving him a chance to retreat. Then she turned her wheel, trying to deescalate the situation. He didn’t have to fire his gun when she just brushed him with the 2500 pound vehicle!!!

[Reality 3,158]

1 minute ago, avoiding injuries said:

But she reversed first giving him a chance to retreat. Then she turned her wheel, trying to deescalate the situation. He didn’t have to fire his gun when she just brushed him with the 2500 pound vehicle!!!

It's hilarious, these idiots think you can attempt run over a LEO and just go on about your business. These dipshlts live in fantasy land.

[Sean Mooney 2,081]

4 minutes ago, nobody said:

She wasn't complying to a damn thing.  She was being an agitator, and she only started moving the car after the guy started trying to remove her from the vehicle.  It's very clear she was trying to flee.  

But even if she was trying to comply with the order to move (she wasn't), that doesn't give you the right to drive into someone. 

Clean shoot

If two cops approach the vehicle and one yells "Move the car" and one yells "Get out of the car" which command do you comply with? And then a third cop appears out of nowhere saying nothing. You'll note the first two seem content to let her drive away. 

Also it's clear I gave blame to both people in the situation. You only want to blame one. Your opinion is invalid at that point to me because you are not interest in an honest discussion. 

[MDC 8,208]

I’ve watched that video Reality posted 5-6 times. I see the agent’s hands on the car and his body sliding out of the way. Even freezing it and tightening on the shot I can’t tell whether the car hits him.

All I know for sure is 1) no sane person believed she was trying to run the agent down and 2) this administration is full of bottom feeders. 

[supermike80 2,173]

Maybe we should consider MDC's position on this.    Since most of you don't live in Minnesota, you should not care about this at all and it is surprising you are even commenting on it.

[cyclone24 1,957]

10 minutes ago, Sean Mooney said:

You can clearly see his gun pointing to his left- our right- on the video. Reality is an idiot who just wants to argue. Ignore him. Maybe he will fake quit the board again

Lol… this is absurd. There’s a clean bullet hole through the front windshield and you can clearly see the guy shoot at the front windshield when he’s right in front of it. This isn’t even disingenuous for political dumb reasons which you liberals are really grasping at.

 

 

[avoiding injuries 1,684]

1 minute ago, Reality said:

It's hilarious, these idiots think you can attempt run over a LEO and just go on about your business. These dipshlts live in fantasy land.

How hard, or how much does the officer need to be hit in order to defense himself? Are we sticking with the foot? How about the upper leg? Maybe the torso gives it a green light. Perhaps only if an officer is laying on the ground and you squish his head can you protect yourself. 

[Sean Mooney 2,081]

1 minute ago, MDC said:

I’ve watched that video Reality posted 5-6 times. I see the agent’s hands on the car and his body sliding out of the way. Even freezing it and tightening on the shot I can’t tell whether the car hits him.

All I know for sure is 1) no sane person believed she was trying to run the agent down and 2) this administration is full of bottom feeders. 

From the angle that is taken from the same distance as the photos in My Cousin Vinny it does appear like she gets him in the hip as he is just about past the car which indicates a few things most likely:

1.) She was trying to avoid him.

2.) She waited entirely too long to try and hit him allowing him to almost clear the entire front of the vehicle before going forward.

3.) She backed up to get more leverage to hit him but then turned her wheels away from where he was standing because perhaps her peripheral vision is all jacked up.

4.) The alignment on her vehicle badly needs to be addressed

5.) Or if you lick windows I suppose- she was trying to mow him down with a 2500 pound car. 

[nobody 2,966]

35 minutes ago, Reality said:

It's really not, the first shot went through the windshield, that's well documented. He wasn't free of the car at the point of the first shot, he was hit, front on and managed to move to the side, thank God he didn't slip on the ice.

Good effort though.

 

I was encouraged that a wokie actually saw the same things the rest of the world did up through item 5. 

Acknowledged she was blocking traffic.  Acknowledged there was an order to get out of the car.  Acknowledged she was trying to flee instead of the absurd notion that she was complying with the order to move the car.  Acknowledged she hit the dude inst and of the rest of the wokies claiming she didn't.

Went off the rails again on the timing of the gun pull, but it was the best effort by a wokie to be realistic yet.

[Gladiators 2,037]

6 minutes ago, nobody said:

She wasn't complying to a damn thing.  She was being an agitator, and she only started moving the car after the guy started trying to remove her from the vehicle.  It's very clear she was trying to flee.  

But even if she was trying to comply with the order to move (she wasn't), that doesn't give you the right to drive into someone. 

Clean shoot

Yep.  Pretty obvious unluss you're an idiot.  Looks like there's one idiot on this board who thinks when an officer is trying to open your door and there's another officer standing in front of your car, that's an indication to hit the gas pedal.  lol

[Horseman 2,816]

She hit him, but, she wasn't trying to!!!!!

JFC

[avoiding injuries 1,684]

3 minutes ago, Gladiators said:

Yep.  Pretty obvious unluss you're an idiot.  Looks like there's one idiot on this board who thinks when an officer is trying to open your door and there's another officer standing in front of your car, that's an indication to hit the gas pedal.  lol

Only one idiot. I just checked in briefly but usually there’s 4-5. 

[SaintsInDome2006 859]

 

[Reality 3,158]

5 minutes ago, Gladiators said:

Yep.  Pretty obvious unluss you're an idiot.  Looks like there's one idiot on this board who thinks when an officer is trying to open your door and there's another officer standing in front of your car, that's an indication to hit the gas pedal.  lol

Right, add the fact that, the woman was only there because she wanted to disrupt ICE from performing their duty, while her wife recorded the entire interaction from OUTSIDE the vehicle... 

 

[Ron_Artest 2,672]

17 minutes ago, Reality said:

Sure it is. 

Feel free to apologize.

It that grainy video it does appear he gets hit.  In the video from the NY times they sync that video up with the other clear video and it doesn't appear he gets.

Either way, if he gets hit or not, he doesn't have the right to then murder her.

[Reality 3,158]

1 minute ago, Ron_Artest said:

Either way, if he gets hit or not, he doesn't have the right to then murder her.

Bud, that's exactly what it means.

[Horseman 2,816]

"Get out of the car"

"Put down the gun"

Same result if you don't comply.   You don't actually have to try and shoot someone to be perceived as a legitimate threat.